You are making logical mistakes to attack mathematical overstatements. You also assume that there is no dystopian result in the future. We do need to reverse the insane multiplication of people and consumer spending habits, I believe as well as most people who can do the math without hysteria. This does not justify reaching for science fiction solutions to counter fictional extrapolations.
The good news is that much of Europe and North America have a birthrate below the replacement value: however Africa and South Asia are still reproducing at much more than replacement. But then poverty, AIDS and diseases like war also mean that those areas have short life spans, while the below replacement value areas also have long life span averages. Overall, it appears that we are slowing the population bubble created by the green and the health revolutions of the last 70 years.
Perhaps we will be able to control and shrink population back to a sustainable number that can grow knowledge, health and happiness instead of just more of us sucking at the teat of mother Earth. Or perhaps not. It is "our" choice, and the P above is just muddying the question as much as the article itself does.
According to cnet, the newest rage for pc buyers is pull-apart laptops that use Win8 and can give you a full desktop when the tablet is plugged into the keyboard while you get the touchscreen interface when separated. They are just flying off the shelves, or will be soon, very soon. Of course they are $850.00 and up ($750.00 for the cheaper versions from Amazon) which makes them really competitive with chromebooks and android tablets (like you could buy a chromebook and a Nexus 10 and still pocket $100.00 rather than shell out for one of these).
But I know all you slashdot windows lovers will be throwing out your Androids and iToys to rush out and pick up a few of these, i mean cnet says they are the new cool toys!
Many of my (foreign) students have two phones: an iPhone for status, often given by parents, and an android phone that they use for all the things they need a phone for (including email, pictures, SMS and phone calls of course.) I asked them why they all had two phones (thinking they had a reason to need two phones) but no, it was just style and status as well as functionality.
Of course I also have a remarkable number of students who have Macbooks that run windows xp. It is pretty funny to see them bring out their shiny new macbook and then hear the windows xp welcome tones on start-up.
They are called (in Beijing 2 or 3 years ago anyway) the "ant tribe." They were living 4 to a concrete and windowless room, out trying to pick up money working as interns, with a masters or even a PhD, certainly with just a Bachelors degree. Many made their rent by doing some "wu mao" work: internet and SMS filtering for "improper language." I don't want to know how many of my students ended up there, stupid, just stupid. They literally cannot take a job in a factory, it would be such a disgrace to their parents and the money and time invested in their education for them to become factory drones, working side by side with the filthy masses and farmers from the countryside.
If that kind of idea disturbs you, good. It is, however the way it is in China. When I told my students that I didn't go to university until I was forty, they were not just shocked and baffled, but my status went down because I had "worked with my hands." I find it incredibly funny that people think of China as being "communist." They are about as far from communism, and especially Maoism, as you can get. They are completely controlled by their warped, middle class ideas of status and importance.
Oh well, I suppose we should look in the mirror as well?
Why do I have to keep saying this? Fedora is bleeding edge testing for Red Hat. If you want to work in a stable environment then use Red Hat or (if you are too cheap to pay for support) CentOS. Of course it is hard, of course we are still working on it, that is what the Fedora ethic is all about. Now go back to whatever you were doing before and please don't use Fedora unless you really want to be an alpha tester, it is what Fedora people do and we like it. You don't which is very OK with us.
Maybe Fuduntu, or Scientific would make you happier?
There is a third one, but it is small and serves only the centers of large cities. Sorry but I forget the name, I've been gone almost 2 years now. Still, because of the scale of what the providers do the service is sometimes very slow, and it really only matters if you want to surf inside China. Outside you still get throttled at the firewall, and that throttling is sometimes terminal;)
so along with my PHONE, when I am going our for a period when I might have the time to do something with a device with extra abilities, I take my WeTab in my backpack. That way I don't carry around (or pay for a dataplan that sucks cash without providing real value) My dataplan lets me pay per MB prepaid. Cheap, does everything I really need and I am covered. Case closed.
The big plus is that my phone time and my dataplan time cost me about $30.00 a month in a busy month, like December. The WeTab, in case you don't know, is MeeGo based, has both Wifi and 3G and so is extremely easy on the 3G MB costs. It is a little heavy (an 11" screen and an atom processor with an aluminum frame) but I can manage, really I can.
After 25 years in business with a few cases that went into court or judicial arbitration:
I never, ever lost a case or an arbitration and
I never, ever made even a small part of my costs or my losses. Even the one time where someone sued me (apparently hoping to beat me to the punch-- a business partner who was dipping from the till) I won and still lost. I consider going to court to be the exact analogue of going to the polls:
It is your right and responsibility as a citizen to do these actions for the common good, and you get screwed by the system in both cases.
And this is the crux. The corporations, unlike the "horrible socialist Euro governments" don't care about your health, your wealth or your social status. They only care if they can frighten you enough to empty your pockets every payday (and so much more my credit foolish friends) and fill the coffers of the corporations who funnel the profits ( and the profits exist only after the corporation has had its fill of course) to the smallest possible slice of the citizenry.
And then they use their media arms and lobbying arms to convince you that this is all in the name of: 1) the freedom to be able to kill multiple other people and yourself whenever you feel like it and in whatever grisly fashion you choose 2) the freedom to eat yourself to death either by calories or by quality (as in lack of/ corporate produced and packaged food that died months or years before you "cooked" it to eat.) 3) the freedom to let your doctor fail to care for you and simply write a script to give you drugs that are killing half your body while "curing" the other half, which the doctor really has no clue about the overall effects since they are paid to push the drugs, not to question their use. 4) the freedom to give up your life (80-100 hour workweeks????) your privacy (while you might not be required to give up the passwords to your social media accounts, HR sure can check them and use them as a decision maker for the hiring, firing and promotion process) and your future (NDAs and restrictions on where and what you can do after you leave a job???
Oh yeah, those are the real freedoms that we have in America, and we honor and cherish them as they dig our graves deeper. What the F ever happened to "LIFE, LIBERTY (as opposed to the "license" that most people seem to think of when they talk about freedom) and the PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS?" We have lost the core of our freedom for the license to exercise our stupidity and crass greed. Who, in the national dialogue, is addressing these concerns?
actually, powerpoint is so very sucky that many teachers (myself, obviously, included) are moving to Prezi and Rocket and other presentation applications. Sorry, but.ppt is crap and will, hopefully soon die a quiet death.
I am leading a Tablet Technology group at the university where I work. The head of our department wants to give students tablets the day they walk in, loaded with textbooks, syllabi, applications that will connect them to Canvas (a cloud on-line course management system), as well as the course registration system and other student services. The Tablets will be all one type (we are studying both Android and iOS at the moment but will look at Win8 this summer, assuming they get something worth looking at) and will be adminned by the university, so that they stay updated and students have a single source for problems.
We recognize the limitations of tablets and plan to work toward focusing on their use for course delivery rather than student production. We are rolling out slowly by providing Tablets to professors who want to use them in class for content delivery, but the real plan is what I explained above, this step is to acclimate the faculty to the possibilities of using the Tablets in the classroom. Training with tablet will be on-going and we expect to see uptake of this tech, which is supported by the administration, to be pretty rapid as faculty realize what it can (and won't) do for their classes.
Finally, I don't know what university you have been an active part of in the last 20 years, but it is what I have been doing and your description is out of the 20th century, not the modern world at all. Oh, and I work for a public university with 45,000+ students spread across 3 campuses, so we are not talking some small private uni with more money than good sense. Also, being an alumni of UVA, I can tell you that the faculty there are some of the most progressive in the world and will probably jump on whatever works.
And which fascist dictator was overthrown because the citizens were armed and attacked? And which dictator was worried about killing citizens because they were armed?
Be careful with your arguments, you are arguing from anecdote on Slashdot, and that is a cyanide pill for you (or should I say a "headshot to your argument").
But you don't care, you've drunk the kool-aid, decided on your faith and nothing will change that for you.
in the case of China, the P2P is disabled and it only runs through the government filtered "Tom" servers (supernodes). A year or so ago I think it was McGill researchers (somebody in a uni in Canada anyway,) got into the server and found ALL the messages from some number of years stored in plain text.
that this has to be commented on just shows that there are not enough (if any) people of color on this site. Anyone growing up black in the US can tell you that the cops are totally out of control.
Recent study seems to show (correlation part of study) a direct relationship between the use of lead in gasoline and in the final success of lead remediation in the home with both the rise of aggressive and brutal crime in the 20s and 30s and the falling off of the same crime in the 80s and 90s. The study authors then went on to show data that shows a causative agent in that lead damages the brain in the very places that are currently understood to control civil behavior and self-control (as I remember, the exact function of that part of the brain, fuzzy, fuzzy, but the effect/causation was there in the effect of lead on the brain).
So the availability of weapons had nothing to do with it, neither did it affect the increase.
So... it doesn't help or hurt the argument and the entire argument must be moved onto another front.
I managed to find a neckbeard with admin rights to get fedora on my desktop and win7 in a virt, couldn't get him to agree to KVM, but Oracle VB was accepted (while a neckbeard, he also drinks the green kool-aid and has to admin win servers and desktops mostly, so he is being nice to me overall). Once a week I go to win7 to use filemaker, and other win7 stuff (updates and av updates, etc). that part of life is good.
Because the US government is not you, or your family, or even your town or city or county. The government does things at a very much higher and more complicated level than you do at home.
For a simple example, if you want to build a road from your mailbox to your front door so that you can drive your dino-burning junk-heap to pick up your correspondence, you can do that, and you must pay for it out of your "income" that you receive for work of some kind. But how does your correspondence get to your mailbox? By a road that crosses the property of many other people in order to provide the mail and many other services to your "mailbox."
Now, how did that road get built? Did the road builder just do it for fun? Did they get paid by a confederation of homeowners who wanted some mail delivered on the road so they could drive to the mailbox and pick it up? Did you pay for it in advance (by saving up little pieces of extra cash over a period of years so that you could meet your financial responsibility to the confederation) or how was the mail service's access road created?
We all know the answer, the Government built it. They built it by issuing special government financial instruments called "bonds" that are an agreement between the government and the bond buyer that the government will use the bond money for special, agreed-upon projects and that the government will repay the value of the bond in a certain period of time. In this way the government provides you with a service access road in a timely fashion and you pay for the road, through taxes. After it is built, the government pays off the bonds from the revenue it receives from all its many revenue sources, including your taxes. (See why you pay taxes? To pay for things that the government has ALREADY provided you-- like roads and education support and protection from polluted water,air,earth and defense from other countries that want to get something of ours and -- most importantly -- the complex organization that makes it possible to do all these things in a timely and reasonable fashion)
You can't do this at home. For one thing, whoever traded you the bond for the money would look at what you own and what you owe and say: "you ain't got Jack, Jack" and refuse to "loan" you money. What a government can do is point to the expected tax and other revenue to show that this agglomeration of people is legally bound to provide the government with a certain amount of money over a certain amount of time in order to repay the bonds. It is easier to trust the agglomeration than it is to trust you, or even a small confederation of you and your neighbors.
So, you are just plain wrong (but in all fairness many people think of the government in this same way, but you can now approach it with greater understanding I hope), the national government is not anything like a household, or a church, or a town, city or county really, because of the aspect of scale and how that scale plays out in economics.
so, back in the 70s, when the metric "law" went in to effect i tried to move my contracting company to metric. It was OK if I was there to help everyone get their head around the idea that it was still just numbers, just a different name and relationship to the numbers. Finally the recession came in the 80s and I gave up the company and trying to help people convert. I can still do everything in metric, and when I do stuff with my wife (for a layout at a gallery when she has an exhibition for example) then we both work in metric. But if we are working around the house I use feet and inches, and she does too. It's just numbers after all.
I don't know, what I figured was that if they were going to use touch on desktops they would include Kinect and use air gestures to touch a space that is just reflected by a pointer on the desktop. I thought that it would be something like using an "air mouse" that let me have fine or gross control based on a set of configurable gestures. If that is not it then what the hell were they thinking?
And the tenured tracks are so tightly controlled not that most of us can't even consider them. Yes there are still jobs available, but generally it is selling out to IBM (almost literally) since you are getting a lifetime job working for the man. Oh, there are benefits, of course, but you get pushed into research that is "for the good of the college" and brings in money for the department rather than the cool stuff you wanted to do when you were trying to get the job in the first place. If you already sold your soul to get the position by selling yourself as a researcher in that area then you are really stuck, you have become the goto, and there is no escape.
I skipped the tenure tracks so that I can travel and live where I want, study and write what I like and get no credit for nothing since I am moving on and my admins can claim the credit. I get glowing references and move to another good job in a decent place. It is worth the extra work of moving and applying for jobs almost constantly because I retain my self.
You are making logical mistakes to attack mathematical overstatements. You also assume that there is no dystopian result in the future. We do need to reverse the insane multiplication of people and consumer spending habits, I believe as well as most people who can do the math without hysteria. This does not justify reaching for science fiction solutions to counter fictional extrapolations.
The good news is that much of Europe and North America have a birthrate below the replacement value: however Africa and South Asia are still reproducing at much more than replacement. But then poverty, AIDS and diseases like war also mean that those areas have short life spans, while the below replacement value areas also have long life span averages. Overall, it appears that we are slowing the population bubble created by the green and the health revolutions of the last 70 years.
Perhaps we will be able to control and shrink population back to a sustainable number that can grow knowledge, health and happiness instead of just more of us sucking at the teat of mother Earth. Or perhaps not. It is "our" choice, and the P above is just muddying the question as much as the article itself does.
According to cnet, the newest rage for pc buyers is pull-apart laptops that use Win8 and can give you a full desktop when the tablet is plugged into the keyboard while you get the touchscreen interface when separated. They are just flying off the shelves, or will be soon, very soon. Of course they are $850.00 and up ($750.00 for the cheaper versions from Amazon) which makes them really competitive with chromebooks and android tablets (like you could buy a chromebook and a Nexus 10 and still pocket $100.00 rather than shell out for one of these).
But I know all you slashdot windows lovers will be throwing out your Androids and iToys to rush out and pick up a few of these, i mean cnet says they are the new cool toys!
Many of my (foreign) students have two phones: an iPhone for status, often given by parents, and an android phone that they use for all the things they need a phone for (including email, pictures, SMS and phone calls of course.) I asked them why they all had two phones (thinking they had a reason to need two phones) but no, it was just style and status as well as functionality.
Of course I also have a remarkable number of students who have Macbooks that run windows xp. It is pretty funny to see them bring out their shiny new macbook and then hear the windows xp welcome tones on start-up.
They are called (in Beijing 2 or 3 years ago anyway) the "ant tribe." They were living 4 to a concrete and windowless room, out trying to pick up money working as interns, with a masters or even a PhD, certainly with just a Bachelors degree. Many made their rent by doing some "wu mao" work: internet and SMS filtering for "improper language." I don't want to know how many of my students ended up there, stupid, just stupid. They literally cannot take a job in a factory, it would be such a disgrace to their parents and the money and time invested in their education for them to become factory drones, working side by side with the filthy masses and farmers from the countryside.
If that kind of idea disturbs you, good. It is, however the way it is in China. When I told my students that I didn't go to university until I was forty, they were not just shocked and baffled, but my status went down because I had "worked with my hands."
I find it incredibly funny that people think of China as being "communist." They are about as far from communism, and especially Maoism, as you can get. They are completely controlled by their warped, middle class ideas of status and importance.
Oh well, I suppose we should look in the mirror as well?
"Most of those who are filthy rich were originally from lower to middle class, just like you guys."
Yeah like Bill Gates,
Why do I have to keep saying this? Fedora is bleeding edge testing for Red Hat. If you want to work in a stable environment then use Red Hat or (if you are too cheap to pay for support) CentOS. Of course it is hard, of course we are still working on it, that is what the Fedora ethic is all about. Now go back to whatever you were doing before and please don't use Fedora unless you really want to be an alpha tester, it is what Fedora people do and we like it. You don't which is very OK with us.
Maybe Fuduntu, or Scientific would make you happier?
same in Asia. the P was not talking from experience i fear
There is a third one, but it is small and serves only the centers of large cities. Sorry but I forget the name, I've been gone almost 2 years now. ;)
Still, because of the scale of what the providers do the service is sometimes very slow, and it really only matters if you want to surf inside China. Outside you still get throttled at the firewall, and that throttling is sometimes terminal
so along with my PHONE, when I am going our for a period when I might have the time to do something with a device with extra abilities, I take my WeTab in my backpack. That way I don't carry around (or pay for a dataplan that sucks cash without providing real value) My dataplan lets me pay per MB prepaid. Cheap, does everything I really need and I am covered. Case closed.
The big plus is that my phone time and my dataplan time cost me about $30.00 a month in a busy month, like December. The WeTab, in case you don't know, is MeeGo based, has both Wifi and 3G and so is extremely easy on the 3G MB costs. It is a little heavy (an 11" screen and an atom processor with an aluminum frame) but I can manage, really I can.
ditto, ditto aaaand ditto
bought it in 2007, still a great PHONE
After 25 years in business with a few cases that went into court or judicial arbitration:
I never, ever lost a case or an arbitration and
I never, ever made even a small part of my costs or my losses.
Even the one time where someone sued me (apparently hoping to beat me to the punch-- a business partner who was dipping from the till) I won and still lost. I consider going to court to be the exact analogue of going to the polls:
It is your right and responsibility as a citizen to do these actions for the common good, and you get screwed by the system in both cases.
And this is the crux. The corporations, unlike the "horrible socialist Euro governments" don't care about your health, your wealth or your social status. They only care if they can frighten you enough to empty your pockets every payday (and so much more my credit foolish friends) and fill the coffers of the corporations who funnel the profits ( and the profits exist only after the corporation has had its fill of course) to the smallest possible slice of the citizenry.
And then they use their media arms and lobbying arms to convince you that this is all in the name of:
1) the freedom to be able to kill multiple other people and yourself whenever you feel like it and in whatever grisly fashion you choose
2) the freedom to eat yourself to death either by calories or by quality (as in lack of/ corporate produced and packaged food that died months or years before you "cooked" it to eat.)
3) the freedom to let your doctor fail to care for you and simply write a script to give you drugs that are killing half your body while "curing" the other half, which the doctor really has no clue about the overall effects since they are paid to push the drugs, not to question their use.
4) the freedom to give up your life (80-100 hour workweeks????) your privacy (while you might not be required to give up the passwords to your social media accounts, HR sure can check them and use them as a decision maker for the hiring, firing and promotion process) and your future (NDAs and restrictions on where and what you can do after you leave a job???
Oh yeah, those are the real freedoms that we have in America, and we honor and cherish them as they dig our graves deeper. What the F ever happened to "LIFE, LIBERTY (as opposed to the "license" that most people seem to think of when they talk about freedom) and the PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS?" We have lost the core of our freedom for the license to exercise our stupidity and crass greed. Who, in the national dialogue, is addressing these concerns?
actually, powerpoint is so very sucky that many teachers (myself, obviously, included) are moving to Prezi and Rocket and other presentation applications. Sorry, but .ppt is crap and will, hopefully soon die a quiet death.
I am leading a Tablet Technology group at the university where I work. The head of our department wants to give students tablets the day they walk in, loaded with textbooks, syllabi, applications that will connect them to Canvas (a cloud on-line course management system), as well as the course registration system and other student services. The Tablets will be all one type (we are studying both Android and iOS at the moment but will look at Win8 this summer, assuming they get something worth looking at) and will be adminned by the university, so that they stay updated and students have a single source for problems.
We recognize the limitations of tablets and plan to work toward focusing on their use for course delivery rather than student production. We are rolling out slowly by providing Tablets to professors who want to use them in class for content delivery, but the real plan is what I explained above, this step is to acclimate the faculty to the possibilities of using the Tablets in the classroom. Training with tablet will be on-going and we expect to see uptake of this tech, which is supported by the administration, to be pretty rapid as faculty realize what it can (and won't) do for their classes.
Finally, I don't know what university you have been an active part of in the last 20 years, but it is what I have been doing and your description is out of the 20th century, not the modern world at all. Oh, and I work for a public university with 45,000+ students spread across 3 campuses, so we are not talking some small private uni with more money than good sense. Also, being an alumni of UVA, I can tell you that the faculty there are some of the most progressive in the world and will probably jump on whatever works.
And which fascist dictator was overthrown because the citizens were armed and attacked? And which dictator was worried about killing citizens because they were armed?
Be careful with your arguments, you are arguing from anecdote on Slashdot, and that is a cyanide pill for you (or should I say a "headshot to your argument").
But you don't care, you've drunk the kool-aid, decided on your faith and nothing will change that for you.
1) bulleye
2) yes, yes they do
in the case of China, the P2P is disabled and it only runs through the government filtered "Tom" servers (supernodes). A year or so ago I think it was McGill researchers (somebody in a uni in Canada anyway,) got into the server and found ALL the messages from some number of years stored in plain text.
that this has to be commented on just shows that there are not enough (if any) people of color on this site. Anyone growing up black in the US can tell you that the cops are totally out of control.
Recent study seems to show (correlation part of study) a direct relationship between the use of lead in gasoline and in the final success of lead remediation in the home with both the rise of aggressive and brutal crime in the 20s and 30s and the falling off of the same crime in the 80s and 90s. The study authors then went on to show data that shows a causative agent in that lead damages the brain in the very places that are currently understood to control civil behavior and self-control (as I remember, the exact function of that part of the brain, fuzzy, fuzzy, but the effect/causation was there in the effect of lead on the brain).
So the availability of weapons had nothing to do with it, neither did it affect the increase.
So... it doesn't help or hurt the argument and the entire argument must be moved onto another front.
I managed to find a neckbeard with admin rights to get fedora on my desktop and win7 in a virt, couldn't get him to agree to KVM, but Oracle VB was accepted (while a neckbeard, he also drinks the green kool-aid and has to admin win servers and desktops mostly, so he is being nice to me overall). Once a week I go to win7 to use filemaker, and other win7 stuff (updates and av updates, etc). that part of life is good.
Because the US government is not you, or your family, or even your town or city or county. The government does things at a very much higher and more complicated level than you do at home.
For a simple example, if you want to build a road from your mailbox to your front door so that you can drive your dino-burning junk-heap to pick up your correspondence, you can do that, and you must pay for it out of your "income" that you receive for work of some kind. But how does your correspondence get to your mailbox? By a road that crosses the property of many other people in order to provide the mail and many other services to your "mailbox."
Now, how did that road get built? Did the road builder just do it for fun? Did they get paid by a confederation of homeowners who wanted some mail delivered on the road so they could drive to the mailbox and pick it up? Did you pay for it in advance (by saving up little pieces of extra cash over a period of years so that you could meet your financial responsibility to the confederation) or how was the mail service's access road created?
We all know the answer, the Government built it. They built it by issuing special government financial instruments called "bonds" that are an agreement between the government and the bond buyer that the government will use the bond money for special, agreed-upon projects and that the government will repay the value of the bond in a certain period of time. In this way the government provides you with a service access road in a timely fashion and you pay for the road, through taxes. After it is built, the government pays off the bonds from the revenue it receives from all its many revenue sources, including your taxes. (See why you pay taxes? To pay for things that the government has ALREADY provided you-- like roads and education support and protection from polluted water,air,earth and defense from other countries that want to get something of ours and -- most importantly -- the complex organization that makes it possible to do all these things in a timely and reasonable fashion)
You can't do this at home. For one thing, whoever traded you the bond for the money would look at what you own and what you owe and say: "you ain't got Jack, Jack" and refuse to "loan" you money. What a government can do is point to the expected tax and other revenue to show that this agglomeration of people is legally bound to provide the government with a certain amount of money over a certain amount of time in order to repay the bonds. It is easier to trust the agglomeration than it is to trust you, or even a small confederation of you and your neighbors.
So, you are just plain wrong (but in all fairness many people think of the government in this same way, but you can now approach it with greater understanding I hope), the national government is not anything like a household, or a church, or a town, city or county really, because of the aspect of scale and how that scale plays out in economics.
so, back in the 70s, when the metric "law" went in to effect i tried to move my contracting company to metric. It was OK if I was there to help everyone get their head around the idea that it was still just numbers, just a different name and relationship to the numbers. Finally the recession came in the 80s and I gave up the company and trying to help people convert. I can still do everything in metric, and when I do stuff with my wife (for a layout at a gallery when she has an exhibition for example) then we both work in metric. But if we are working around the house I use feet and inches, and she does too. It's just numbers after all.
agreed, i have yet to find a reading situation that i don't like using my ebook in.
I don't know, what I figured was that if they were going to use touch on desktops they would include Kinect and use air gestures to touch a space that is just reflected by a pointer on the desktop. I thought that it would be something like using an "air mouse" that let me have fine or gross control based on a set of configurable gestures. If that is not it then what the hell were they thinking?
And the tenured tracks are so tightly controlled not that most of us can't even consider them. Yes there are still jobs available, but generally it is selling out to IBM (almost literally) since you are getting a lifetime job working for the man. Oh, there are benefits, of course, but you get pushed into research that is "for the good of the college" and brings in money for the department rather than the cool stuff you wanted to do when you were trying to get the job in the first place. If you already sold your soul to get the position by selling yourself as a researcher in that area then you are really stuck, you have become the goto, and there is no escape.
I skipped the tenure tracks so that I can travel and live where I want, study and write what I like and get no credit for nothing since I am moving on and my admins can claim the credit. I get glowing references and move to another good job in a decent place. It is worth the extra work of moving and applying for jobs almost constantly because I retain my self.