The modem is a win-modem (but it works under linux). And hardware suspension is really really iffy (thought I may just need a BIOS update or something).
HOWEVER, software suspension works like a charm (this includes suspending with hardware accelerated OpenGL, which is a rare for linux laptops)>
You were NOT using DRI. You were using SOFTWARE rendering. When you used nvidia's dirvers you were using HARDWARE rendering, which is a million times faster.
This has nothing to do with open source, this has everything to do with COMMON sense. All the more reasons you should just go back to windows.
You were using SOFTWARE rendering. Which inherently is going to be very very slow. When you installed Nvidia's drivers, you were using their HARDWARE rendering support.
Sunny Dubey
Random Note: glxgears IS NOT a bench marking tool. Nvidia's drivers are highly optimized for display lists which is why comparing glxgear fps numbers will ALWAYS be skewed.
Why the heck do we always assume that the DMCA will be used against us for everything?
This type of thought is getting really disgusting. Sure the DMCA need to be worried about, but letting the DMCA shape our lives without the corporate whores doing anything is giving them the automatic win.
Holy cow, this is a load of purely disgusting bullshit.
John Carmack does what needs to be done so he can make money and make a living. That is something each of us do everyday and will continue to do so.
However, Mr. Carmack is a man who is to be respected, because unlike many others he often takes his hard work and releases it to the general community. How many engine authors can you think of do this ? EXACTLY
Additionally, John Carmack is great for standing on his two feet and using OpenGL while most other lazy developers have sold their souls to Microsoft's Direct X.
I can think of a billion more reasons, why Mr. Carmack will get my highest level of respect. I hope you crawl out of whatever rock you have been living under.
I seriously think slashdot needs an "over-clocking and related" topic. IMHO stuff like this shouldn't be in hardware but rather in its own topic. I say this because I'm 100% sure there are many of us who don't care for water cooling or overclocking. However we do care for other hardware topics and whatnot, so blocking the hardware topic isn't an option for us.
They stated that they'd have linux support ASAP. But with the recent events I wonder if they even knew what they were talking about. My gut feeling is that they stated linux support just to generate PR.
I don't mean to sound ungrateful, nor do I want to sound 'mean' in anyway. But this has become one of those I'll believe it when I see it sort things
Instead of bitching about why linux doesn't support your hardware, how about buying hardware that is supported by linux? So instead of your Radeon 9000 or WinTV PVR card.. you could have gotten a Radeon 8500 with a WinTV GO card. All your problems would go away in a heart beat. (Also see notice below)
I have to just be patient and wait for the vendor to produce a driver or for some linux developer go buy the same card I have and make it work.
Why not buy him the card which would only help him write the drivers? I'm pretty sure many kernel hackers would appreciate this. (this would also be much cheaper than buying all those distributions.)
It's my opinion that the kernel developer employed by the distro's have an obligation to develop the linux kernel with me in mind.
First off, you are only ONE customer. Therefore you will be treated as ONE customer. If every customer had an attitude like you, redhat/mandrake/suse/etc would do nothing but write drivers for hardware day and nite. But they've got a billion other things to do.
And I want drivers. I don't care if they're GPL or not.
Then stop your waiting, and stop your complaining: go back to windows. You'll have all the drivers you'll ever need and then some.
I want hardware vendors to write the driver for the hardware they sell and distribute that driver WITH the hardware.
Then buy from companies that support linux. If you're going to buy from a company that could care less about linux.. what are the chances of getting support for linux?? exactly.
That means the linux kernel must allow it to work.
Good luck telling people like Alan Cox that. They could care less about what you think. In fact I'm pretty sure they have never cared for what people like you think. They care about only one thing, and that is pushing out an open source kernel. So far they've done a pretty good job at it IMHO.
So stop your bitching,
Sunny Dubey
PS:
Right now I have a radeon 9000 pro and a wintv pvr 250 I'm struggling with.
The Radeon 9000 is supported by ATI's DRI complaint binary only drivers. As well as hacked DRI open source drivers. And your Wintv card has support too (sadly that driver isn't v4l complaint but something is still better than nothing.)
If this guy could get an article about bad presents, that make make others notice.. And maybe even list some company names in that article, I'm sure the management people of those companies might realize how stupid they acted and might just give out better presents next year.
Am I the only one who doesn't like this over clocking stuff??
I think what slashdot needs to do is create an "over-clocking" topic. This way for those of us like myself, we can simple block this new "over-clocking" topic, but still see nifty news in the hardware topic.
This FUD is disgusting. Apple themselves don't claim OS-X to be a UNIX, but rather Unix-based. Go to their website ( http://www.apple.com/macosx/ ) and you will see for yourself the silver image that claims such.
Additionally, your comment that Linux is very much doing its one thing - blazing new trails in speed, stability, and of course acceptance of a free OS in the enterprise sector of business is a disgusting comment.
Linux is doing far more then you can even begin to imagine. People are writing QoS packet schedulers, playing with distributive computing, and even using linux to create wireless APs.
GTK, QT, and Motif are not bloat. They are created so that application developers don't have to deal with x directly and can spend better time worrying about the actual functionality of their application.
Programming directly under X would force a programmer to deal with many various problems that he need not with a toolkit. So instead of having to deal with code that creates tabs for him, he uses GTK which provide widgets to easily create the tabs for him.
Actually, I wouldn't be too surprised if Apple already have a working port of OS-X on X86/X86-64/etc related technologies.
This way, if Apple is ever given crap from either IBM or Motorola, Apple can easily fire back that their OS-X technology works fine and that they (Apple) can take their business else where (ie Intel and AMD)
Even if you were to see an X86/X86-64 port of Apple's stuff, I'm pretty sure Apple would still retain their control over their hardware. So buying parts for the new Apple like how we do with our current PC's would still be ruled out
Well, you need to understand that those products really aren't ment for the average joe. They are ment for game developement houses, who don't have any issues spending 800 dollars for a production tool.
If I was a gaming corporation, and I knew that an 800 dollar tool could make my game faster for my end users, I'd do it in a heart beat.
Lastly, you failed to mention that there is an 80 dollar version of the same software. It may not have the same features as its 800 version, but it comes close enough.
Stuff that effects Redhat not only effects redhat, but the rest of the open source community itself. Last time I checked, redhat used mostly standardized open source software to get the job done. (i.e. openssh for sshd, apache for httpd, etc)
So when redhat has a new securty flaw, it isn't so much as a redhat problem as it is to a open source community security flaw.
The bigger the screen gets, the bigger the laptop.
Being that laptops are supposed to be portable, the screen size will forever have a finite size limitation. They could get around this by having an extra screen pop-out or something. But then that would cost major $$ and just very well may not be worth it. It may very well be laptops that drive the development of head sets.
Will they have RDF feeds?? I have my own start page, in which i just pull the headline links so I can easily read what I want, and skip what I don't want.
(For those of you that use those funny slashdot boxes to the right of the comments, should be aware that those are created by the Netscape RDF format.)
PS: go to the UK (and most of EU) mention Oakenfold, and everyone will know who you're talking about. Mention him in the US, and few will know. (The same thing about rap music in the EU)
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HOWEVER, software suspension works like a charm (this includes suspending with hardware accelerated OpenGL, which is a rare for linux laptops)>
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You were NOT using DRI. You were using SOFTWARE rendering. When you used nvidia's dirvers you were using HARDWARE rendering, which is a million times faster.
This has nothing to do with open source, this has everything to do with COMMON sense. All the more reasons you should just go back to windows.
I'm not wasting time on this thread anymore
Sunny Dubey
But DRI drivers don't exist for Nvidia. They never will because nvidiot doesn't know what the word open means. Go back to windows.
Sunny Dubey
You were using SOFTWARE rendering. Which inherently is going to be very very slow. When you installed Nvidia's drivers, you were using their HARDWARE rendering support.
Sunny Dubey
Random Note: glxgears IS NOT a bench marking tool. Nvidia's drivers are highly optimized for display lists which is why comparing glxgear fps numbers will ALWAYS be skewed.
<Flame on>
If you want to support XFree86, Linux, FreeBSD, and NetBSD, fuck nVidia.
Go and help our guys at DRI and Mesa* .
nVidia's bullshit is a one-time solution for linux. DRI/Mesa* are a platform linux will have a life time to build on.
Sunny Dubey
* Do not call Mesa MesaGL like everyone does (legal reasons).
This type of thought is getting really disgusting. Sure the DMCA need to be worried about, but letting the DMCA shape our lives without the corporate whores doing anything is giving them the automatic win.
Just my two cents
Sunny Dubey
John Carmack does what needs to be done so he can make money and make a living. That is something each of us do everyday and will continue to do so.
However, Mr. Carmack is a man who is to be respected, because unlike many others he often takes his hard work and releases it to the general community. How many engine authors can you think of do this ? EXACTLY
Additionally, John Carmack is great for standing on his two feet and using OpenGL while most other lazy developers have sold their souls to Microsoft's Direct X.
I can think of a billion more reasons, why Mr. Carmack will get my highest level of respect. I hope you crawl out of whatever rock you have been living under.
Sunny Dubey
just my two cents
Sunny Dubey
They aren't funny anymore, nor are they imaginative at all. They are simply repetitive and nothing more.
Sunny Dubey
But my vote goes for NWN on linux.
They stated that they'd have linux support ASAP. But with the recent events I wonder if they even knew what they were talking about. My gut feeling is that they stated linux support just to generate PR.
I don't mean to sound ungrateful, nor do I want to sound 'mean' in anyway. But this has become one of those I'll believe it when I see it sort things
Sunny Dubey
Instead of bitching about why linux doesn't support your hardware, how about buying hardware that is supported by linux? So instead of your Radeon 9000 or WinTV PVR card .. you could have gotten a Radeon 8500 with a WinTV GO card. All your problems would go away in a heart beat. (Also see notice below)
I have to just be patient and wait for the vendor to produce a driver or for some linux developer go buy the same card I have and make it work.
Why not buy him the card which would only help him write the drivers? I'm pretty sure many kernel hackers would appreciate this. (this would also be much cheaper than buying all those distributions.)
It's my opinion that the kernel developer employed by the distro's have an obligation to develop the linux kernel with me in mind.
First off, you are only ONE customer. Therefore you will be treated as ONE customer. If every customer had an attitude like you, redhat/mandrake/suse/etc would do nothing but write drivers for hardware day and nite. But they've got a billion other things to do.
And I want drivers. I don't care if they're GPL or not.
Then stop your waiting, and stop your complaining: go back to windows. You'll have all the drivers you'll ever need and then some.
I want hardware vendors to write the driver for the hardware they sell and distribute that driver WITH the hardware.
Then buy from companies that support linux. If you're going to buy from a company that could care less about linux .. what are the chances of getting support for linux?? exactly.
That means the linux kernel must allow it to work.
Good luck telling people like Alan Cox that. They could care less about what you think. In fact I'm pretty sure they have never cared for what people like you think. They care about only one thing, and that is pushing out an open source kernel. So far they've done a pretty good job at it IMHO.
So stop your bitching,
Sunny Dubey
PS:
Right now I have a radeon 9000 pro and a wintv pvr 250 I'm struggling with.
The Radeon 9000 is supported by ATI's DRI complaint binary only drivers. As well as hacked DRI open source drivers. And your Wintv card has support too (sadly that driver isn't v4l complaint but something is still better than nothing.)
If this guy could get an article about bad presents, that make make others notice.. And maybe even list some company names in that article, I'm sure the management people of those companies might realize how stupid they acted and might just give out better presents next year.
There is no rule .. like mob rule :)
Sunny Dubey
I think what slashdot needs to do is create an "over-clocking" topic. This way for those of us like myself, we can simple block this new "over-clocking" topic, but still see nifty news in the hardware topic.
just my 2 cents
Sunny Dubey
Additionally, your comment that Linux is very much doing its one thing - blazing new trails in speed, stability, and of course acceptance of a free OS in the enterprise sector of business is a disgusting comment.
Linux is doing far more then you can even begin to imagine. People are writing QoS packet schedulers, playing with distributive computing, and even using linux to create wireless APs.
Please take your FUD else where.
Sunny Dubey
Programming directly under X would force a programmer to deal with many various problems that he need not with a toolkit. So instead of having to deal with code that creates tabs for him, he uses GTK which provide widgets to easily create the tabs for him.
See how life is easy with a toolkit?
Sunny Dubey
on one hand you have all this cool sun stuff for linux, and on the other you have this article
hrrmmm ... makes you wonder
actually, being how redhat has managed to stay in business as the world of linux has constantly shifted, I'd say they know what they are doing
This way, if Apple is ever given crap from either IBM or Motorola, Apple can easily fire back that their OS-X technology works fine and that they (Apple) can take their business else where (ie Intel and AMD)
Even if you were to see an X86/X86-64 port of Apple's stuff, I'm pretty sure Apple would still retain their control over their hardware. So buying parts for the new Apple like how we do with our current PC's would still be ruled out
Sunny Dubey
If I was a gaming corporation, and I knew that an 800 dollar tool could make my game faster for my end users, I'd do it in a heart beat.
Lastly, you failed to mention that there is an 80 dollar version of the same software. It may not have the same features as its 800 version, but it comes close enough.
Sunny
I was just wondering if I were to pitch in 50 dollars or so, would I be able to get a tax deduction on it?
Sorry, but my understanding of the tax laws (in the US) is very limited, any help would be greatly appreciated!!
Sunny
So when redhat has a new securty flaw, it isn't so much as a redhat problem as it is to a open source community security flaw.
Sunny Dubey
Being that laptops are supposed to be portable, the screen size will forever have a finite size limitation. They could get around this by having an extra screen pop-out or something. But then that would cost major $$ and just very well may not be worth it. It may very well be laptops that drive the development of head sets.
Sunny Dubey
(For those of you that use those funny slashdot boxes to the right of the comments, should be aware that those are created by the Netscape RDF format.)
Sunny Dubey
And I must stand for techno fans everywhere ....
FUCK YOU!!
There, I felt better
Sunny Dubey
PS: go to the UK (and most of EU) mention Oakenfold, and everyone will know who you're talking about. Mention him in the US, and few will know. (The same thing about rap music in the EU)