I will wait for the video to come out. I can't see paying money to see this movie. Before this review it was just a maybe I'll see it, and now I won't waste my money.
Ah, the American Way - let someone else make up your mind for you.
Well, I've given up buying new CDs because of the bully tactics from the recording industries.
You mean to tell me that if the RIAA was nice and cudly, you'd actually buy the shit they call music these days?
If SCO wins, Microsoft watch out!
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As from the article, SCO hates BSD too, if SCO wins, and they decide to go after BSD, they will also be taking on Microsoft, since the entire Microsoft TCP/IP stack is based off of BSD's implementation.
Apparently, SCO owns everything worthwhile in the last 20 years of computer technology, TCP/IP, and heck, probably even the OSI 7 layer model!
I call upon all slashdotters who maintain opensource products to remove support for UNIXWARE in all future version. Explicitly disable the generation of your Makefiles for SCO machines, in protest and solidarity of SCO's actions.
Yes, God forbid that all 20 users of SCO get anything for free from the OpenSource community.
However, unlike other prominent lawsuits in the tech world, IBM actually has more than just a money-tree with which to pay lawyers. They actually have the law on their side (assuming that all the indications are correct and SCO's claim is BS, which I would rate at atleast 95% chance).
And, which has become apparent in our legal system, it doesn't matter who is right or wrong, just who has the most money. If you were good, right, and true, do you really thing lawyers are necesary? No. They exist purely to interpret law into a way that suits them best.
One of the best books I've ever read on programming was, "Moving from QBASIC to C". That book is still helpful, since I originally learned to program in QBASIC and PowerBASIC, and now am programming in C. Some things that are second nature in BASIC I have a hard time trying to find in C, so I grab that trusty book and look at the QBASIC code and the equiv. C code. Its very helpful, lays out the same routine in both languages, and explains the differences.
As a side note, did you know that PowerBASIC could do inline ASM? Very powerful stuff. A lot of my shareware in the BBS days was written with PowerBASIC.
Let me put Microsoft's license stimpulations into everyday common language:
1) Buy a car 2) Drive the car, use the car, enjoy the car 3) Sell the car, but rip out the ignition and tell the buyer that he has no rights to use it, and must buy a new ignition, even though the car originally came with an ignition that worked fine.
Its completely asinine. Intellectual property is no different from literature - its a work of the mind. Why then can you buy a book and resell a book, but not software written by MS?
This seems like nothing more than a sneaky attempt by SCO to force IBM to settle.... Did SCO not check into IBM's operating profits before this announcement? This isn't a David and Goliath situation, this is a David VS. 4 Goliaths with Lasers.
And not just goliaths with ordinary lasers, but Goliaths with frickin' laser beams on their heads.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that something was only a copyright violation or a patent infringement if it was greater than 75% likeness?
Re:So let me get this straight...
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SCO SCO SCO!
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What's in the secret code that I can't see by looking the kernel source? Are they the super secret comment statements that surround the code? Is the secret code surrounded by super-double-secret code ?
No silly... the back side of the NDA has the secret-decoder-ring symbols. =)
Maybe SCO is infringing?
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Who's to say that SCO didn't copy code from the Linux source, put it in their code, and claim they did it first? After all, we can all freely look at GPL'ed code, but we can't look at SCO code. We have no way to know if SCO put that code into their source tree or vice versa.
Another reason all intelligent societies should reject any software patents.
The biggest problem I had was with Sony Tech Support. It took me 4 hours to get an RMA to return the drive. They refused to help me at first because the drive wasn't hooked up as the master on the SECOND IDE controller. It was hooked up as the master on the first IDE controler (My MOBO has 2 IDE, plus a RAID controller which the HD's run off of).
I work on computers every day, and when I have to call someone for support on something, I always tell them what they want to hear, regardless if its what is actually taking place. Eg, your second IDE connection. The tier-1 support is ALWAYS a cue-card reader, and will not help you if it isn't by the book. I know it doesn't make a bit of difference, so I tell them what they want to hear. Sometimes, when you can't get help from a tier-1 tech, I hang up, call back and say I was referred to tier-2 support by the last technician I spoke with. =) That usually expedites things nicely.
Why don't the people notice the lack of advancement in the Matrix? Over a hundred years of 1999-ness... no stunning advances in CGI, or science, or anything!
Because the Matrix really is evil: They made Microsoft win, and it has stifled innovation. Those poor people, no wonder the humans are able to jump into the matrix at will, the dumb agents are simply using Windows XP's internet filewall defaults!
I'm generally against crippling services on the ISP end, but I've even thought that maybe it's high time that ISPs do what AOL does, and block outbound port 25. Incomming is another story, but as the parent and I have pointed out- the residential users should be using their ISP's mail servers as relay hosts.
Whats to stop them from blocking other ports then? They'll reason, "Well, we've blocked 25 and not a whole of people complained, maybe we'll go ahead and block all new connects on port 22, and 23, and 21. Those people shouldn't be running services! They should only consume web content, period.
Its the same with any group in power... Give them a little rope and they pull as hard as they can. The internet is viewed by these companies as nothing more than a perfect advertising canvas, and they want you to do nothing more than simply relax, read the 15 popups that you get per hour, and remember to buy Fluffy Puff Marshmallows.
What society are you living in? No society depends on disclosure or peer review of trade secrets. Every company is entitled to keep trade secrets. It either that or they must patent their inventions. Patents require disclosure. So take your pick.
It may be true that a society doesn't depend upon it, but the fact that we can see how things are made and produce better products is what has made the USA a great nation.
Do you think Holey, or Edlebrock could have made better intake mainfolds or carbruetors without first seeing how sucky the Rochcester Quadrajet was? Do you think Linux could have been made without first seeing how Minix was made? The fact that we made better things from similar things is exactly what the original poster was trying to say - in order to thrive as a society, you must see ways to improve upon something someone else has made.
As someone here on Slashdot eloquently said, building bigger roads to deal with a traffic problem is like using a bigger belt to deal with a weight problem.
Hey now, I resent that! After getting a 3" wide belt, and wearing it 2 inches too tight, I look 10 lbs less! Put me on TV and I look like I should.
It becomes microsoftish when an upgrade is not a free download away.
I remember when Microsoft lost the suit to Stac Electronics, and had to make DOS 6.2 compliant with the court. So, they released 6.22, $10 at Best Buy to upgrade. No free upgrade. They made more money on the upgrade than they had to pay Stac Electronics for losing the law suit.
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eBAY!
I will wait for the video to come out. I can't see paying money to see this movie. Before this review it was just a maybe I'll see it, and now I won't waste my money.
Ah, the American Way - let someone else make up your mind for you.
Speak for yourself. No MPAA or RIAA member has gotten any of my money in twenty years, nor have I made unauthorized copies of anything of theirs
Sooo, you have large collection of disco records, and that made your life complete? =)
Well, I've given up buying new CDs because of the bully tactics from the recording industries.
You mean to tell me that if the RIAA was nice and cudly, you'd actually buy the shit they call music these days?
As from the article, SCO hates BSD too, if SCO wins, and they decide to go after BSD, they will also be taking on Microsoft, since the entire Microsoft TCP/IP stack is based off of BSD's implementation.
Apparently, SCO owns everything worthwhile in the last 20 years of computer technology, TCP/IP, and heck, probably even the OSI 7 layer model!
I call upon all slashdotters who maintain opensource products to remove support for UNIXWARE in all future version. Explicitly disable the generation of your Makefiles for SCO machines, in protest and solidarity of SCO's actions.
Yes, God forbid that all 20 users of SCO get anything for free from the OpenSource community.
Wonder if Dell is behind this plan?;)
Better check and see what stocks he has then, hadn't we?
However, unlike other prominent lawsuits in the tech world, IBM actually has more than just a money-tree with which to pay lawyers. They actually have the law on their side (assuming that all the indications are correct and SCO's claim is BS, which I would rate at atleast 95% chance).
And, which has become apparent in our legal system, it doesn't matter who is right or wrong, just who has the most money. If you were good, right, and true, do you really thing lawyers are necesary? No. They exist purely to interpret law into a way that suits them best.
One of the best books I've ever read on programming was, "Moving from QBASIC to C". That book is still helpful, since I originally learned to program in QBASIC and PowerBASIC, and now am programming in C. Some things that are second nature in BASIC I have a hard time trying to find in C, so I grab that trusty book and look at the QBASIC code and the equiv. C code. Its very helpful, lays out the same routine in both languages, and explains the differences.
As a side note, did you know that PowerBASIC could do inline ASM? Very powerful stuff. A lot of my shareware in the BBS days was written with PowerBASIC.
Let me put Microsoft's license stimpulations into everyday common language:
1) Buy a car
2) Drive the car, use the car, enjoy the car
3) Sell the car, but rip out the ignition and tell the buyer that he has no rights to use it, and must buy a new ignition, even though the car originally came with an ignition that worked fine.
Its completely asinine. Intellectual property is no different from literature - its a work of the mind. Why then can you buy a book and resell a book, but not software written by MS?
This seems like nothing more than a sneaky attempt by SCO to force IBM to settle.... Did SCO not check into IBM's operating profits before this announcement? This isn't a David and Goliath situation, this is a David VS. 4 Goliaths with Lasers.
And not just goliaths with ordinary lasers, but Goliaths with frickin' laser beams on their heads.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that something was only a copyright violation or a patent infringement if it was greater than 75% likeness?
What's in the secret code that I can't see by looking the kernel source?
Are they the super secret comment statements that surround the code?
Is the secret code surrounded by super-double-secret code ?
No silly... the back side of the NDA has the secret-decoder-ring symbols. =)
Who's to say that SCO didn't copy code from the Linux source, put it in their code, and claim they did it first? After all, we can all freely look at GPL'ed code, but we can't look at SCO code. We have no way to know if SCO put that code into their source tree or vice versa.
Another reason all intelligent societies should reject any software patents.
The biggest problem I had was with Sony Tech Support. It took me 4 hours to get an RMA to return the drive. They refused to help me at first because the drive wasn't hooked up as the master on the SECOND IDE controller. It was hooked up as the master on the first IDE controler (My MOBO has 2 IDE, plus a RAID controller which the HD's run off of).
I work on computers every day, and when I have to call someone for support on something, I always tell them what they want to hear, regardless if its what is actually taking place. Eg, your second IDE connection. The tier-1 support is ALWAYS a cue-card reader, and will not help you if it isn't by the book. I know it doesn't make a bit of difference, so I tell them what they want to hear. Sometimes, when you can't get help from a tier-1 tech, I hang up, call back and say I was referred to tier-2 support by the last technician I spoke with. =) That usually expedites things nicely.
"Ninety-nine percent of our shreddings are made into toilet paper."
It'll be soothing to wipe my ass with something that deals with Microsoft.
Why don't the people notice the lack of advancement in the Matrix? Over a hundred years of 1999-ness... no stunning advances in CGI, or science, or anything!
Because the Matrix really is evil: They made Microsoft win, and it has stifled innovation. Those poor people, no wonder the humans are able to jump into the matrix at will, the dumb agents are simply using Windows XP's internet filewall defaults!
Heh, now everyone running one of those stupid Windows CE Phones could get a text message that rebooted their phone.
I just filled a patent for printf("Hello World\n"):!
Soon every elementary C Book will be violating my IP, and thus be required to pay me royalites.
PS: Thanks SCO for giving me such a great idea on how to make money fast, easy, and sleasy
I'm generally against crippling services on the ISP end, but I've even thought that maybe it's high time that ISPs do what AOL does, and block outbound port 25. Incomming is another story, but as the parent and I have pointed out- the residential users should be using their ISP's mail servers as relay hosts.
Whats to stop them from blocking other ports then? They'll reason, "Well, we've blocked 25 and not a whole of people complained, maybe we'll go ahead and block all new connects on port 22, and 23, and 21. Those people shouldn't be running services! They should only consume web content, period.
Its the same with any group in power... Give them a little rope and they pull as hard as they can. The internet is viewed by these companies as nothing more than a perfect advertising canvas, and they want you to do nothing more than simply relax, read the 15 popups that you get per hour, and remember to buy Fluffy Puff Marshmallows.
What society are you living in? No society depends on disclosure or peer review of trade secrets. Every company is entitled to keep trade secrets. It either that or they must patent their inventions. Patents require disclosure. So take your pick.
It may be true that a society doesn't depend upon it, but the fact that we can see how things are made and produce better products is what has made the USA a great nation.
Do you think Holey, or Edlebrock could have made better intake mainfolds or carbruetors without first seeing how sucky the Rochcester Quadrajet was? Do you think Linux could have been made without first seeing how Minix was made? The fact that we made better things from similar things is exactly what the original poster was trying to say - in order to thrive as a society, you must see ways to improve upon something someone else has made.
As someone here on Slashdot eloquently said, building bigger roads to deal with a traffic problem is like using a bigger belt to deal with a weight problem.
Hey now, I resent that! After getting a 3" wide belt, and wearing it 2 inches too tight, I look 10 lbs less! Put me on TV and I look like I should.
It becomes microsoftish when an upgrade is not a free download away.
I remember when Microsoft lost the suit to Stac Electronics, and had to make DOS 6.2 compliant with the court. So, they released 6.22, $10 at Best Buy to upgrade. No free upgrade. They made more money on the upgrade than they had to pay Stac Electronics for losing the law suit.
Bare metal is a necessity if you're an embedded programmer.
It could have been a life size doll!
Then you could of at least added orifices and fucked him like he's fucking you.