CERN probably used Linux because it's highly customizable.
LOL. Playing adult games with baby toys? Sure you do not even begin to grasp the computational tasks that are to be done in order to make a 5 sigma discovery of such heavy particle. You probably have a desktop-level knowledge of OSes, dont you? you could check the numbers, like data flow, amount of storage, flops etc which are needed in CERN...
Unlike FOSS zealots, they understand the importance of using right tool for the job
sorry to wake you up from your nice dreams, Linux is the only tool used in serious science, unless propietary hardware suffers from the windows lock-down. That's why you'll see more windows boxes in labs than in theory departments (in fact it is rather hard to see a theorist using anything but linux)
religion does not need any other nail...the only place left for god right now is just as a designer of the Lagrangian of the standard model, don't you agree?
(senior quantum physicist)
"may be one of the most important scientific discoveries ever"
BS. Science does not evolve by critical jumps made by one person in one tiny micro-region of science space. It evolves by hordes of scientists opening new fronts all over. (comment: it might well be the most expensive and publicised in the whole history of science, though)
"Is the particle's discovery just on the fringe of common scientific knowledge"
Isn't that 100% redundant? every discovery is at the fringe by definition.
Some days ago I was telling a friend that every time my parents come with a "hey, have you heard about (...) scientific discovery?" it takes me at least 10 minutes to relate the newspaper's title to the real news, even if the news belong to my field of research. Even if journalists were not interested in sensationalizing the news, and even if they were not complete idiots, which I am sorry to know they are, they could NEVER post reasonable scientific news, because they do not understand the content. No matter how much you try to explain the Higgs mechanism, lay people are never going to understand it, you need the maths for that, no way around. They could grasp some fairy-tale-ishly drawn picture of an approximate explanation, but never the reality. This is such an obvious concept to people who are expert at a given field: you can only understand what you know about, in other fields you are just like a little baby wandering in the dark.
But, hey, let's keep with the false illusion that being mediocre and ignorant is no problem at all.
when energy ceases to be the problem, entropy will. You just cannot process infinite energy in a given volume. There is space left to wonder what the next major disaster will be.
Lol. Left in the US? that's so much fun....even in Europe you have a hard time to find the left. We are so used that capitalism 'works well' during the last decades that we forgot what the Left is.
from what I know, all that is based on heavy numerical simulations (prone to errors in the assumptions, lack of more thorough numerics, etc).
The simulations are based on parameters determined from measurements made from distances longer than those that will be reached with this new probe, and on assumptions also extrapolated from everything observed "from here".
Summed up, that explanation could be right or completely wrong. We have to measure more and from smaller distances.
It's funny that you feel this way about conspiracy theories (I mean US people), because the subject transforms into either not believing *at all* in conspiracies, or believing *all* of them. Don't you think the world is more complicated? Don't you think that with your attitude you'll be missing real complots when they happen?
Oddly enough, this attitude is only present in the US, any idea why?
You didn't read the actual speech did you? If not, you are speaking from ignorance.
would you read a speech from a Mullah speaking of internet? no, why? you don't care a shit about that illiterate piece of...
On slashdot, people will believe anything negative claimed about that Pope.
wow! this is an amazing fact... why should that be? The pope is an idiot, obviously, no one intelligent will ever defend the want of substituting reality with a fairy tale; it is coward and childish, and well studied in psychology. In the future this kind of people will be treated, and of course no one will ever read on their opinions, as if they had something important to say.
Oh my fucking god.... we are so willing that all those fucking believers disappear and lets us build a world without dellusions...
The church is not the exclusive enemy of atheists, it is of everybody civilized. But more than the church, it is the fact that most world population prefer to believe in something than to check it.
Optimal control theory gives you a function (trajectory over time, or acceleration vector over time) which minimizes a given functional (a function of functions) in this case I imagine that the total amount of fuelt spent (with the constraint that it reaches the lifetime desired). Summary: find the trajectory x(t) such that Fuel(x(t)) is minimized. This algorithm is well developed, you can even use it in quantum mechanics (give the desired hamiltonian(t) such that the evolution of the state is such and such at the end of the evolution, with the minimum of $whatever achieved along time).
I bet that in a thousand years from now we will consider life as anything having a)enough presence of nonequilibrium thermodynamics states, and b)the ability to perform universal computation (either classical or quantum, or maybe another yet undiscovered more general thing). This could include, as foreseen by Asimov, lakes of superconducting metals in remote planets. Will vegetarianism in the future include moral attitudes for superconducting helium inside high field magnets? Will we see an invasion of Earth by superconducting metal intelligent beings on a hunt-those-superconducting-torturers/bastards?
Maybe in Pluto there is a colony of intelligent robots (which communicate through gravity waves, i.e. civilizations withouth a theory of quantum gravity wouldn't detect their communications) and they are waiting for our civilization to build enough autonomous electronic components, so that at a given point they will send a signal/virus, take control of all our electronic infracstructure and take on planet's control. The threats of civilization always come from possibilities that we weren't able to imagine.
The fallacy lies in the fact that results are present at all levels of abstraction. Doing an effort is already a result, at least for sentient beings, who modify their own personality and virtues just by the mere "trying". The result of failure or success is another step in the results chain, which again modifies the personality of the person. This is why someone before said that this method could be dangerous: you have to evaluate the obvious effects but most importantly the effects on the personality after two decades of application of such methodology.
arrgggghh! I thought photons didn't have mass and this was the reason why they could travel at light's speed (apart from a small effective mass coming from virtual electron-positron pairs creation along propagation). When I heard the sentence, in the background there was a violin string breaking too.
It's called social rebellion, coming from an anarchist extra lobe in spaniards' hearts. They fuck you, you fuck them. Once equilibrium is restored, we can go back and reopen discussion with media, to plan what the future should be like. At the moment we have to be pirates (soft pirates, we don't go around with a knife in the mouth assaulting SGAE yelling "for Tutatis") in order to compensate for revolutionary tax that they have imposed on CDs and other materials.
By the way, I don't see any real discussion of future plans on how the arts business should be managed in an ideal society. Example: have you ever heard anyone talking about a science-like management of artists? they would receive fellowships/short-term-contracts and fight for resources just like scientists do. Only the good ones survive this sieve, and end up having a merit-based stable job. People now will come with the argument that art cannot be judged on absolute values....bullshit. Talk to real understanders of arts and they will tell that good art can be distinguished from bad art.
Direction!=sense (two senses for each direction). Example North-South is a direction, northwards is a sense. That's a difference between colloquial and scientific languages. (i.e. you can tell a friend "I'm heading direction north")
Some people who see an animal experience pain tend to identify with, "empathize" with it, and commit anthropomorphic fallacies.
Substitute "animal" by "negro" in your sentence and much enlightenment will come to you (hopefully, otherwise go for easier mental goals).
While it is not logical to empathize with other beings (why should I suffer because of others?) it is "human" to do so. You can check the definition of psycopathy, for example.
In my experience with these creatures, I have not seen any evidence of sentience. They have no ability to behave outside of instinct, and insofar as I can tell, memory is only established through repetition.
I know a percentage of the population in my country can be classified according to that. Furthermore, ALL countries behave like that (macropsychology). Have you ever seen a human behaving outside of instinct? I very much doubt you can give me any example of that. I bet on it.
Now, seriously, it's a matter of sensitivity for other being's suffering. Yours doesn't reach the level where you imagine the suffering of cows/chicken. It's not something debatable, it's something you either are able to feel or not. I'm sorry for people like you.
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Microsoft provided research to CERN, not OS. .
evidence please?
CERN probably used Linux because it's highly customizable.
LOL. Playing adult games with baby toys? Sure you do not even begin to grasp the computational tasks that are to be done in order to make a 5 sigma discovery of such heavy particle. You probably have a desktop-level knowledge of OSes, dont you? you could check the numbers, like data flow, amount of storage, flops etc which are needed in CERN...
Unlike FOSS zealots, they understand the importance of using right tool for the job
sorry to wake you up from your nice dreams, Linux is the only tool used in serious science, unless propietary hardware suffers from the windows lock-down. That's why you'll see more windows boxes in labs than in theory departments (in fact it is rather hard to see a theorist using anything but linux)
religion does not need any other nail...the only place left for god right now is just as a designer of the Lagrangian of the standard model, don't you agree?
(senior quantum physicist)
"may be one of the most important scientific discoveries ever"
BS. Science does not evolve by critical jumps made by one person in one tiny micro-region of science space. It evolves by hordes of scientists opening new fronts all over. (comment: it might well be the most expensive and publicised in the whole history of science, though)
"Is the particle's discovery just on the fringe of common scientific knowledge"
Isn't that 100% redundant? every discovery is at the fringe by definition.
Some days ago I was telling a friend that every time my parents come with a "hey, have you heard about (...) scientific discovery?" it takes me at least 10 minutes to relate the newspaper's title to the real news, even if the news belong to my field of research. Even if journalists were not interested in sensationalizing the news, and even if they were not complete idiots, which I am sorry to know they are, they could NEVER post reasonable scientific news, because they do not understand the content. No matter how much you try to explain the Higgs mechanism, lay people are never going to understand it, you need the maths for that, no way around. They could grasp some fairy-tale-ishly drawn picture of an approximate explanation, but never the reality. This is such an obvious concept to people who are expert at a given field: you can only understand what you know about, in other fields you are just like a little baby wandering in the dark.
But, hey, let's keep with the false illusion that being mediocre and ignorant is no problem at all.
when energy ceases to be the problem, entropy will. You just cannot process infinite energy in a given volume. There is space left to wonder what the next major disaster will be.
those that are left unresearched because some bigots have decided it is not a good investment
"...nutter branches on *both* the left and..."
Lol. Left in the US? that's so much fun....even in Europe you have a hard time to find the left. We are so used that capitalism 'works well' during the last decades that we forgot what the Left is.
from what I know, all that is based on heavy numerical simulations (prone to errors in the assumptions, lack of more thorough numerics, etc). The simulations are based on parameters determined from measurements made from distances longer than those that will be reached with this new probe, and on assumptions also extrapolated from everything observed "from here". Summed up, that explanation could be right or completely wrong. We have to measure more and from smaller distances.
It is certainly at the very top of literature.
LOL. You only read that book in your whole life, didn't you?
yes, and keep also a class for explaining things about santa claus, etc.
It's funny that you feel this way about conspiracy theories (I mean US people), because the subject transforms into either not believing *at all* in conspiracies, or believing *all* of them. Don't you think the world is more complicated? Don't you think that with your attitude you'll be missing real complots when they happen? Oddly enough, this attitude is only present in the US, any idea why?
We have billions of human brains cheaply available
I wouldn't say raising a human up to adulthood is cheap...
Right. Did you ever consider looking at what he actually said? :)
never
You didn't read the actual speech did you? If not, you are speaking from ignorance.
would you read a speech from a Mullah speaking of internet? no, why? you don't care a shit about that illiterate piece of ...
On slashdot, people will believe anything negative claimed about that Pope.
wow! this is an amazing fact... why should that be? The pope is an idiot, obviously, no one intelligent will ever defend the want of substituting reality with a fairy tale; it is coward and childish, and well studied in psychology. In the future this kind of people will be treated, and of course no one will ever read on their opinions, as if they had something important to say.
Oh my fucking god.... we are so willing that all those fucking believers disappear and lets us build a world without dellusions...
The church is not the exclusive enemy of atheists, it is of everybody civilized. But more than the church, it is the fact that most world population prefer to believe in something than to check it.
registering major drop in the developed world.
are you saying it is dropping in the USA? I thought there they had the record of believers per citizen...
Optimal control theory gives you a function (trajectory over time, or acceleration vector over time) which minimizes a given functional (a function of functions) in this case I imagine that the total amount of fuelt spent (with the constraint that it reaches the lifetime desired). Summary: find the trajectory x(t) such that Fuel(x(t)) is minimized. This algorithm is well developed, you can even use it in quantum mechanics (give the desired hamiltonian(t) such that the evolution of the state is such and such at the end of the evolution, with the minimum of $whatever achieved along time).
I bet that in a thousand years from now we will consider life as anything having a)enough presence of nonequilibrium thermodynamics states, and b)the ability to perform universal computation (either classical or quantum, or maybe another yet undiscovered more general thing). This could include, as foreseen by Asimov, lakes of superconducting metals in remote planets. Will vegetarianism in the future include moral attitudes for superconducting helium inside high field magnets? Will we see an invasion of Earth by superconducting metal intelligent beings on a hunt-those-superconducting-torturers/bastards?
Maybe in Pluto there is a colony of intelligent robots (which communicate through gravity waves, i.e. civilizations withouth a theory of quantum gravity wouldn't detect their communications) and they are waiting for our civilization to build enough autonomous electronic components, so that at a given point they will send a signal/virus, take control of all our electronic infracstructure and take on planet's control. The threats of civilization always come from possibilities that we weren't able to imagine.
Glorious! Where are the +5 funny+5youmadethepointinasentence=+10 ?
The fallacy lies in the fact that results are present at all levels of abstraction. Doing an effort is already a result, at least for sentient beings, who modify their own personality and virtues just by the mere "trying". The result of failure or success is another step in the results chain, which again modifies the personality of the person. This is why someone before said that this method could be dangerous: you have to evaluate the obvious effects but most importantly the effects on the personality after two decades of application of such methodology.
He can only save US against the will of its own people.
photons have size and mass
arrgggghh! I thought photons didn't have mass and this was the reason why they could travel at light's speed (apart from a small effective mass coming from virtual electron-positron pairs creation along propagation). When I heard the sentence, in the background there was a violin string breaking too.
It's called social rebellion, coming from an anarchist extra lobe in spaniards' hearts. They fuck you, you fuck them. Once equilibrium is restored, we can go back and reopen discussion with media, to plan what the future should be like. At the moment we have to be pirates (soft pirates, we don't go around with a knife in the mouth assaulting SGAE yelling "for Tutatis") in order to compensate for revolutionary tax that they have imposed on CDs and other materials.
By the way, I don't see any real discussion of future plans on how the arts business should be managed in an ideal society. Example: have you ever heard anyone talking about a science-like management of artists? they would receive fellowships/short-term-contracts and fight for resources just like scientists do. Only the good ones survive this sieve, and end up having a merit-based stable job. People now will come with the argument that art cannot be judged on absolute values....bullshit. Talk to real understanders of arts and they will tell that good art can be distinguished from bad art.
Direction!=sense (two senses for each direction). Example North-South is a direction, northwards is a sense. That's a difference between colloquial and scientific languages. (i.e. you can tell a friend "I'm heading direction north")
Some people who see an animal experience pain tend to identify with, "empathize" with it, and commit anthropomorphic fallacies.
Substitute "animal" by "negro" in your sentence and much enlightenment will come to you (hopefully, otherwise go for easier mental goals).
While it is not logical to empathize with other beings (why should I suffer because of others?) it is "human" to do so. You can check the definition of psycopathy, for example.
In my experience with these creatures, I have not seen any evidence of sentience. They have no ability to behave outside of instinct, and insofar as I can tell, memory is only established through repetition.
I know a percentage of the population in my country can be classified according to that. Furthermore, ALL countries behave like that (macropsychology). Have you ever seen a human behaving outside of instinct? I very much doubt you can give me any example of that. I bet on it.
Now, seriously, it's a matter of sensitivity for other being's suffering. Yours doesn't reach the level where you imagine the suffering of cows/chicken. It's not something debatable, it's something you either are able to feel or not. I'm sorry for people like you.