Your post jogged a memory of mine from when I first moved down to Arizona.. Here you go.
Around the time I moved to Tucson back in '96, I was returning home with a load of groceries one night, walking through my apartment complex. About 10 or 15 paces before the stairwell, I noticed the silouhette (sp?) of something up in the sky against the stars that I would describe as a very large, flat, slow-moving black triangle heading north. At first, I thought it was very low in the sky, maybe only a few hundred feet above the apartment complex. I dont know how large it was, because I'm not really sure how far up in the sky it was..It was hard to put a scale to it. I dunno how fast it was going for the same reason.. It could have been a snails pace for all I know. But regardless, it looked friggin enormous from where I was. I would be surprised to learn it was close to a thousand feet across, maybe half that in width. It was hard to tell, because I wasnt really sure what part was the front and what part was the back...I could only judge how big it was by the stars it obscured when it went overhead. It was that big. The only thing I was able to hear was sort of a soft, low, heavy vibration like what you might hear from a car stereo way off in the distance (but constant, not rhythmic) combined what could best be described as a "breath" noise, like the kind of noise Darth Vader makes. Yes, I know, bad choice of analogy, but thats what it sounded like. Very faint, barely audible sustained breath.
I have no doubt in my mind it was some sort of military aircraft. After all, Tucson sits in the shadow of Davis-Monthan AFB, which is a known staging area for stealth aircraft. Looking back on it, it would make sense if this thing was a low-profile airship.
As for aliens....... well, we have aliens down here too, but most of them are called Hector, Juan, or Jose' .:) Seriously, tho, if theres life out there capable of sustained interstellar travel, theyre certainly smart enough to watch and listen to us long enough to know how best to say "howdy" without scaring the piss out of their new neighbors. Use your head.:)
Thank you for posting this.. I was going through the responses here waiting for someone to point out how completely fucking stupid this story was, and then how easy it is to ooh and ahh people with big words. Especially Timothy.
If this post were any more gay, you'de have to wear an AIDS ribbon to read it. Wil Wheaton... San Francisco... Whining about "Free Speech"... Techno... A "Cyber-Cafe"... Barney... The only thing that offsets these unspeakable acts faggotry is the... oh wait, there is nothing that offsets all that faggotry.
Congrats, Slashdot! You've promoted an event that affects about 1% of your readership, and even at that, about 1% of that 1% would even think about attending such an event. Neh, who gives a damn about informing people about things that matter. Stories about Star Trek geeks for the pre-schooler demographic help distract viewers away from the fact that VA cant even sell banner ads, let alone hardware....err, storage....err, software.. or whatever the hell theyre selling these days. Probably hamburgers Delicious, savory soy-burgers from deep in the heart of California, the super-dee-dooperest place in the world, ever.
If it were up to me, I would immerse the entire state of California in a 500-foot-thick epoxy-resin mold. I'd just flood the whole damn thing with millions upon millions of gallons of epoxy to preserve a snapshot of the circus, and sell tickets for the rest of the world to come see how fucked up they really are. I mean, think about it. Once Californians were frozen in their epoxy tomb, we could study them. More interestingly, perhaps, we could enjoy the sideshow element of it all. Its like seeing a real live circus sideshow without all that uncomfortable animal abuse and those unmedicated bipolar clowns. You know what i'm talking about... Clowns that cry. You know damn well its all an act. Those dirty, dirty clowns go back to their tent after a performance, shoot up a big wad of smack, pound back a fifth of Smirnoff and suck on a damp stogie they've kept in a cooler for two weeks. His clown suit seals in all the juices for you to enjoy during the next performance. The clowns sit desparately trying to forget their own humiliating lives, with the hope that the crowd actually gives a cat fart about them being the only thing standing between them and suicide by shotgun. 15 year olds with silicon implants, standing line next to old hags with bowling pin boobs. Thats California, the new madness, the new crime.
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Carsten's view of the world is a fairly simple one....That if you're not doing what he's doing, you're wasting your time, and you're lame for not putting your weight behind his efforts. In essence, he's at the center of his own world, and you're not really invited.
The whole point of the Linux community in the beginning was that we would all throw our efforts into a common goal, and put whatever talents we had to use for the greater good. We didn't really care what came of it, we just wanted to do something cool and see what happened.
The reason why the Linux community has experienced its share of growing pains in recent months is due to exactly this kind of attitude....Everyone their way is the best, and in doing so, alienates everyone else. Unfortunately, Carsten's personality doesn't allow him to understand why other people dont like him, or E, or whatever he happens to be dabbling with. People dont want a desktop that can wiggle, make distracting noises and hundreds of largely useless features. They want something they can sit down and use.. today. Not in a week, not in a few days. Within minutes. And Linux doesn't offer that right now. The waters are still muddy with competition, divergent "standards", and clouded visions of what should happen next.
The time has come to standardize how Linux looks.
There needs to be some sort of formal referendum within the community, a vote, that decides "Here's what Linux will look like."...We need to abandon the weak for the sake of allowing the strong to grow. This lack of focus is hurting us... The lack of focus is what got us going in the beginning, but its time to stop that. We have to grow up as an OS. Desktop maturity is something we're sorely lacking, and its the thing that will always hold us back until we do it. Linux has no face---Windows has a face to it, the Mac has a face to it..even Be had a face to it. But Linux is over 10 years old, and has no face. And you know what? It wont capture the desktop until it does. Thats the hard and disappointing truth.
We need one desktop, not 2 or 3. We need one windowmanager, not 8. We need one GUI toolkit, not 50. We need to step up to the blackboard and be unafraid to say "Here's what we will be from now on", and let the best man win.
Despite what Carsten may think, Linux doesn't lack the apps it needs to take the desktop. Anyone who's seen OpenOffice and Mozilla can tell you that. Those two application suites alone account for 99% of what most PC users want to do with their computers day to day. Companies are TRYING to move applications to Linux..but since we lack a standardized approach to the desktop, they don't know where to aim.
We need to decide what we're going to be. We need to stop pushing and pouring our energies into the smaller, weak projects and spend that same energy on finishing larger projects. We need to define the face of Linux, and the only way we can do that is if we conceed and abandon Carsten's brand of attitude, and throw our support behind what is in the best interests of the future, not what strokes our egos today.
Speaking from experience, I can tell you for a fact that "undocumented" features are far more common than you would expect... Virtually every piece of consumer electronics in production today has at least one feature turned off, typically a feature that had a potentially undesirable impact on the customer, or got in the way of Company X meeting their release date.
Unless you work at Apple, all products usually go through all sorts of functional tests before the final product is delivered into the hands of the consumer. Sometimes, a few of these features aren't reliable, or additional time would be needed to write in support for them. Keep in mind, any such change would mean revising the manual, revising the OS, all sorts of nastyness they don't want to get into until the next generation of the product comes along. Very rarely is it due to a particular part being broken, or unreliable.
The bottom line is, the business world hasn't quite caught up with the idea that Americans are resourceful tinkerers.. They like hidden features. Anyone who remembers notching their floppies with a whole punch can tell you the same.
The only thing holding Linux back from taking the desktop is GNOME. By GNOME (and their developers) refusing to put their support behind KDE, the become a ball and chain on the leg of progress.
The race is over. Its time to give up, and stop bickering over it. For the good of the platform, just give up pushing GNOME, and put your support behind KDE. Nobody is saying you have to give up GTK. GTK is a great toolkit...Just write your GTK apps to behave nicely with KDE, and conform to their desktop. That way, we dont have a "KDE Desktop" or a "GNOME desktop" anymore. We just have a _Linux_ desktop.
Competition sucks. A rabid distaste competition is what gave birth to Linux in the first place.
Wow, I cant wait..Just what consumers have been asking for -- Even MORE unrepairable throw-out erectronics designed to fail with time, and manuals written in unintelligble Engrish!
I remember when I was in Junior High, we were shown a old, yellowed film from made in the 1950's on non-renewable resources. I only remember it because of this dumbassed claim:
"The world's supply oil supply will only sustain us for another 30 YEARS."....And the film was older than that!
There is no "energy crisis", kids. A greed crisis, yes, but not an energy crisis. Were not going to use up all the oil, we're not going to die because of the ozone layer, and asteroids arent going to fall out of the sky and kill us. Nuclear reactors wont burn a hole into the center of the earth, your main isnt infected with anthrax, your antibiotics wont cease to be effective, global warming wont drown us, and you're not going to catch a fucking flesh-eating virus. You'de think that science would have allowed the world to realize when they're running around like scared chickens, ignorant peasants in a medieval tapestry that blame cats for the plague.
I don't wanna blow my own horn here, this article sounds remarkably similar to something I was doing years ago. Back around '98 or so, I was writing code for my local Uni's chemistry department...the code took 3D visualization data from the professor's SGI workstations, and transparently submitted them to an SGI super across campus for calculation. Sort of trivial when you get down to it... It doesnt require enormous loads of bandwidth to be able to generate a whole chain of proteins, and visualize locally whats actually being crunched half a mile away.
Fact: Rental car companies lose millions every year from boneheaded drivers who get in accidents in states where their cars arent insured. Not only in material losses, but the lawsuits stemming from these accidents.
Can you blame them for wanting to know which customers are breaching their contracts, and using misusing their property? Wouldnt YOU do the same? I sure as hell would.
When you rent a car, you enter into a contract. The contract clearly states its terms, and you agree to use the vehicle in a manner which doesn't violate the contract. Its as simple as that.
For every person complaining about being charged thousands of dollars for violating their contract, tough shit. Life isnt fair. Its not the rental company's fault their customers didnt read the contract before signing it. If you dont like what you see in the contract, DONT SIGN IT. These people signed it anyway.
I wish I could sue for being stupid. I should find someone to blame for being smart, and sue them.
Why would anyone want to buy one of these? It just doesn't make any sense.
The company behind the Simputer is attempting to sell these devices for between $215 and $450, according to the article. $215 for a PDA with spinach-colored monochrome LCD display? Come on..
So how is this miracle device better than, say, a Palm m100, which already has a ton of software for it, has more capabilities, has a solid company producing it, and can be found for less than half the price of one of these Simputers?
Of course i'd like to have one..And development of visualization technologies like these are important. However, I have to ask myself...if I were the President of Ford, why bother with such a thing?
The scenario they relate in the article is one where automotive designers and engineers can "walk around" a theorhetical car, as opposed to fabricating a prototype. Sure, prototypes are expensive, but on the other hand, I'd be hard pressed to justify spending what probably amounts to millions of dollars on a holographic setup that could be duplicated with a handful of $100 pairs of polarized stereo LCD goggles. The crux of the problem seems to me to be more of a software one, rather than a hardware one. Do you really need to have a room-sized holographic projection system? Couldn't you accomplish the same effect with a sufficiently advanced pair of goggles with the right software?
The article fails to adequately address why its a necessary technology... only that its whiz-bang neato and reminds the author of R2D2.:(
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Yeah, McAfee sucks. They protect tens of thousands of people's data against viruses, for free. Yeah, they're completely useless, and should be kicked off the face of the earth.
Oh wait, I have a better idea -- How about Slashdot gets a clue, instead?
Who fucking cares. Guess what -- This aint fucking Zimbabwe, and we aren't going to become Zimbabwe. If you think "media abuse" tops the list of problems in these shitty third-world hellholes, you are more of a dilluted shithead than I first thought.
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Your post jogged a memory of mine from when I first moved down to Arizona.. Here you go.
Around the time I moved to Tucson back in '96, I was returning home with a load of groceries one night, walking through my apartment complex. About 10 or 15 paces before the stairwell, I noticed the silouhette (sp?) of something up in the sky against the stars that I would describe as a very large, flat, slow-moving black triangle heading north. At first, I thought it was very low in the sky, maybe only a few hundred feet above the apartment complex. I dont know how large it was, because I'm not really sure how far up in the sky it was..It was hard to put a scale to it. I dunno how fast it was going for the same reason.. It could have been a snails pace for all I know. But regardless, it looked friggin enormous from where I was. I would be surprised to learn it was close to a thousand feet across, maybe half that in width. It was hard to tell, because I wasnt really sure what part was the front and what part was the back...I could only judge how big it was by the stars it obscured when it went overhead. It was that big. The only thing I was able to hear was sort of a soft, low, heavy vibration like what you might hear from a car stereo way off in the distance (but constant, not rhythmic) combined what could best be described as a "breath" noise, like the kind of noise Darth Vader makes. Yes, I know, bad choice of analogy, but thats what it sounded like. Very faint, barely audible sustained breath.
I have no doubt in my mind it was some sort of military aircraft. After all, Tucson sits in the shadow of Davis-Monthan AFB, which is a known staging area for stealth aircraft. Looking back on it, it would make sense if this thing was a low-profile airship.
As for aliens....... well, we have aliens down here too, but most of them are called Hector, Juan, or Jose' .
Thank you for posting this.. I was going through the responses here waiting for someone to point out how completely fucking stupid this story was, and then how easy it is to ooh and ahh people with big words. Especially Timothy.
You cant polish a turd.
Operation Re-Information has been doing this for years.
The Unix trademark is "notorious"? X/Open's claims are "ludacris"?
I smell a wigger! Turn your friggin stereo down, pull your pants up and get a job you hippy!
Cheers,
If this post were any more gay, you'de have to wear an AIDS ribbon to read it. Wil Wheaton... San Francisco... Whining about "Free Speech"... Techno... A "Cyber-Cafe"... Barney... The only thing that offsets these unspeakable acts faggotry is the... oh wait, there is nothing that offsets all that faggotry.
Congrats, Slashdot! You've promoted an event that affects about 1% of your readership, and even at that, about 1% of that 1% would even think about attending such an event. Neh, who gives a damn about informing people about things that matter. Stories about Star Trek geeks for the pre-schooler demographic help distract viewers away from the fact that VA cant even sell banner ads, let alone hardware....err, storage....err, software.. or whatever the hell theyre selling these days. Probably hamburgers Delicious, savory soy-burgers from deep in the heart of California, the super-dee-dooperest place in the world, ever.
If it were up to me, I would immerse the entire state of California in a 500-foot-thick epoxy-resin mold. I'd just flood the whole damn thing with millions upon millions of gallons of epoxy to preserve a snapshot of the circus, and sell tickets for the rest of the world to come see how fucked up they really are. I mean, think about it. Once Californians were frozen in their epoxy tomb, we could study them. More interestingly, perhaps, we could enjoy the sideshow element of it all. Its like seeing a real live circus sideshow without all that uncomfortable animal abuse and those unmedicated bipolar clowns. You know what i'm talking about... Clowns that cry. You know damn well its all an act. Those dirty, dirty clowns go back to their tent after a performance, shoot up a big wad of smack, pound back a fifth of Smirnoff and suck on a damp stogie they've kept in a cooler for two weeks. His clown suit seals in all the juices for you to enjoy during the next performance. The clowns sit desparately trying to forget their own humiliating lives, with the hope that the crowd actually gives a cat fart about them being the only thing standing between them and suicide by shotgun. 15 year olds with silicon implants, standing line next to old hags with bowling pin boobs. Thats California, the new madness, the new crime.
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Awesome troll, btw. Its rare someone takes the time to make it both funny, and grammatically correct.
Why aren't you hiring Linux developers?
Screaming Bubbleheads.
Carsten's view of the world is a fairly simple one....That if you're not doing what he's doing, you're wasting your time, and you're lame for not putting your weight behind his efforts. In essence, he's at the center of his own world, and you're not really invited.
The whole point of the Linux community in the beginning was that we would all throw our efforts into a common goal, and put whatever talents we had to use for the greater good. We didn't really care what came of it, we just wanted to do something cool and see what happened.
The reason why the Linux community has experienced its share of growing pains in recent months is due to exactly this kind of attitude....Everyone their way is the best, and in doing so, alienates everyone else. Unfortunately, Carsten's personality doesn't allow him to understand why other people dont like him, or E, or whatever he happens to be dabbling with. People dont want a desktop that can wiggle, make distracting noises and hundreds of largely useless features. They want something they can sit down and use.. today. Not in a week, not in a few days. Within minutes. And Linux doesn't offer that right now. The waters are still muddy with competition, divergent "standards", and clouded visions of what should happen next.
The time has come to standardize how Linux looks.
There needs to be some sort of formal referendum within the community, a vote, that decides "Here's what Linux will look like."...We need to abandon the weak for the sake of allowing the strong to grow. This lack of focus is hurting us... The lack of focus is what got us going in the beginning, but its time to stop that. We have to grow up as an OS. Desktop maturity is something we're sorely lacking, and its the thing that will always hold us back until we do it. Linux has no face---Windows has a face to it, the Mac has a face to it..even Be had a face to it. But Linux is over 10 years old, and has no face. And you know what? It wont capture the desktop until it does. Thats the hard and disappointing truth.
We need one desktop, not 2 or 3. We need one windowmanager, not 8. We need one GUI toolkit, not 50. We need to step up to the blackboard and be unafraid to say "Here's what we will be from now on", and let the best man win.
Despite what Carsten may think, Linux doesn't lack the apps it needs to take the desktop. Anyone who's seen OpenOffice and Mozilla can tell you that. Those two application suites alone account for 99% of what most PC users want to do with their computers day to day. Companies are TRYING to move applications to Linux..but since we lack a standardized approach to the desktop, they don't know where to aim.
We need to decide what we're going to be. We need to stop pushing and pouring our energies into the smaller, weak projects and spend that same energy on finishing larger projects. We need to define the face of Linux, and the only way we can do that is if we conceed and abandon Carsten's brand of attitude, and throw our support behind what is in the best interests of the future, not what strokes our egos today.
My $0.02,
Deh, hole punch, not "whole punch". Not much sleep last night. :)
Speaking from experience, I can tell you for a fact that "undocumented" features are far more common than you would expect... Virtually every piece of consumer electronics in production today has at least one feature turned off, typically a feature that had a potentially undesirable impact on the customer, or got in the way of Company X meeting their release date.
Unless you work at Apple, all products usually go through all sorts of functional tests before the final product is delivered into the hands of the consumer. Sometimes, a few of these features aren't reliable, or additional time would be needed to write in support for them. Keep in mind, any such change would mean revising the manual, revising the OS, all sorts of nastyness they don't want to get into until the next generation of the product comes along. Very rarely is it due to a particular part being broken, or unreliable.
The bottom line is, the business world hasn't quite caught up with the idea that Americans are resourceful tinkerers.. They like hidden features. Anyone who remembers notching their floppies with a whole punch can tell you the same.
Cheers,
The only thing holding Linux back from taking the desktop is GNOME. By GNOME (and their developers) refusing to put their support behind KDE, the become a ball and chain on the leg of progress.
The race is over. Its time to give up, and stop bickering over it. For the good of the platform, just give up pushing GNOME, and put your support behind KDE. Nobody is saying you have to give up GTK. GTK is a great toolkit...Just write your GTK apps to behave nicely with KDE, and conform to their desktop. That way, we dont have a "KDE Desktop" or a "GNOME desktop" anymore. We just have a _Linux_ desktop.
Competition sucks. A rabid distaste competition is what gave birth to Linux in the first place.
Cheers,
Read up on Thaddeus Cahill's 'Telharmonium', 1896.
Read up on Ondes Martenot, and the device that bares his name. 1923. Recordings exist of the device, and there are actually a few still in existance.
Read up on Theremin, of course, including his KGB connections.
Read up on Oskar Sala...It gets REALLY interesting in the late 40's.
Read up on Raymond Scott. The man was an ear-bleedin' friggin genious. Patented the sequencer in 1955.
Read up on Robert Moog.
After that, its up to you. If youre into more contemporary stuff, look into ADD N TO X, Operation Re-Information, and Servotron.
Cheers,
Wow, I cant wait..Just what consumers have been asking for -- Even MORE unrepairable throw-out erectronics designed to fail with time, and manuals written in unintelligble Engrish!
This post is about as relevant as Timmy's infamous "Telephone Problems In Zimbabwe" post.
Will the last person to leave Slashdot turn off the lights?
I remember when I was in Junior High, we were shown a old, yellowed film from made in the 1950's on non-renewable resources. I only remember it because of this dumbassed claim:
"The world's supply oil supply will only sustain us for another 30 YEARS."
There is no "energy crisis", kids. A greed crisis, yes, but not an energy crisis. Were not going to use up all the oil, we're not going to die because of the ozone layer, and asteroids arent going to fall out of the sky and kill us. Nuclear reactors wont burn a hole into the center of the earth, your main isnt infected with anthrax, your antibiotics wont cease to be effective, global warming wont drown us, and you're not going to catch a fucking flesh-eating virus. You'de think that science would have allowed the world to realize when they're running around like scared chickens, ignorant peasants in a medieval tapestry that blame cats for the plague.
I don't wanna blow my own horn here, this article sounds remarkably similar to something I was doing years ago. Back around '98 or so, I was writing code for my local Uni's chemistry department...the code took 3D visualization data from the professor's SGI workstations, and transparently submitted them to an SGI super across campus for calculation. Sort of trivial when you get down to it... It doesnt require enormous loads of bandwidth to be able to generate a whole chain of proteins, and visualize locally whats actually being crunched half a mile away.
Cheers,
Fact: Rental car companies lose millions every year from boneheaded drivers who get in accidents in states where their cars arent insured. Not only in material losses, but the lawsuits stemming from these accidents.
Can you blame them for wanting to know which customers are breaching their contracts, and using misusing their property? Wouldnt YOU do the same? I sure as hell would.
When you rent a car, you enter into a contract. The contract clearly states its terms, and you agree to use the vehicle in a manner which doesn't violate the contract. Its as simple as that.
For every person complaining about being charged thousands of dollars for violating their contract, tough shit. Life isnt fair. Its not the rental company's fault their customers didnt read the contract before signing it. If you dont like what you see in the contract, DONT SIGN IT. These people signed it anyway.
I wish I could sue for being stupid. I should find someone to blame for being smart, and sue them.
Why would anyone want to buy one of these? It just doesn't make any sense.
The company behind the Simputer is attempting to sell these devices for between $215 and $450, according to the article. $215 for a PDA with spinach-colored monochrome LCD display? Come on..
So how is this miracle device better than, say, a Palm m100, which already has a ton of software for it, has more capabilities, has a solid company producing it, and can be found for less than half the price of one of these Simputers?
"You're racist, Bowie!!"
No, I just know a stupid idea when I see one.
Cheers,
Of course i'd like to have one..And development of visualization technologies like these are important. However, I have to ask myself...if I were the President of Ford, why bother with such a thing?
The scenario they relate in the article is one where automotive designers and engineers can "walk around" a theorhetical car, as opposed to fabricating a prototype. Sure, prototypes are expensive, but on the other hand, I'd be hard pressed to justify spending what probably amounts to millions of dollars on a holographic setup that could be duplicated with a handful of $100 pairs of polarized stereo LCD goggles. The crux of the problem seems to me to be more of a software one, rather than a hardware one. Do you really need to have a room-sized holographic projection system? Couldn't you accomplish the same effect with a sufficiently advanced pair of goggles with the right software?
The article fails to adequately address why its a necessary technology... only that its whiz-bang neato and reminds the author of R2D2.
Whats wrong with re-running the old episodes? They have a unique charm that still plays well, despite being 25-30 years old.
Who's going to think a Dalek looks threatening nowadays? They're salt shakers on wheels!
Cheers,
If you like books that examine the swirling mass of self-righteous high nosed pig vomit that Slashdot has turned into in recent years, you'll love this Kafka'esque dystopian epic about my fucking bunghole's dynastic bourgeoise'. Just look at these stunning penile excerpts from this master work of flushable bureaocracy:
"....but...." - Page 192
"...and then he..." - Page 2
This is a vaginally relevant book, like William Gibson's epic "Corn!", because everyone knows William Gibson = Relevant. Its a multiplexed hamburger of literary diarrhea, with each layer of wholesome goodness transposed ad infinitum against the enema-induced backdrop of 1930's monastic Andorra. How true--A retard's face can hide an evil mind...The twists and turns and swirling controversy make this work truly transgressable, and suitable for the toilet.
If you were a robot, you'de want to get the hell out of a dingy lab that smelled like nerd too.
Yeah, McAfee sucks. They protect tens of thousands of people's data against viruses, for free. Yeah, they're completely useless, and should be kicked off the face of the earth.
Oh wait, I have a better idea -- How about Slashdot gets a clue, instead?
Cheers,
Who fucking cares. Guess what -- This aint fucking Zimbabwe, and we aren't going to become Zimbabwe. If you think "media abuse" tops the list of problems in these shitty third-world hellholes, you are more of a dilluted shithead than I first thought.
God damn dirty hippies! Go away!