Re:That's weird. I just downloaded Kazaa:
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I was trying to make a joke about their current legal argument. Such a download message might make their court case a lot more convincing.
Everyone would still use it if they knew about the ad network. It's a fantastically useful system, despite the drawbacks. Hopefully they'll get squashed, and eventually one of the hydra heads will have none of the drawbacks.
I don't care what his name is. He could have changed his name to "I Hate America". He's a citizen. He was arrested in the US. You have to *prove* he did something wrong. You have to do it in court. You have to at least convince a court that it's a military issue, which they have not done.
That's weird. I just downloaded Kazaa:
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"Thank you for downloading your personal advertising delivery system! Please follow the onscreen instructions so that we may deliver customized advertising content to your computer. Any use of this software that is not for the purposes of advertising distribution and delivery is strictly prohibited! Infringing use will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law! [ed note: that is, not prosecuted at all]
Have a nice day!"
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Can't they just say people in the US are not permitted to download or use their software, and by that claim that US infringers are not lawfully their customers, and so evade prosecution alltogether?
But then there goes their availability on download.com, and there goes their visibility to US users, and eventually their installed base won't seem so attractive to advertisers. They might remain viable that way, but they'd certainly be less profitable. Also, iirc, they already tried to argue that they didn't do substantial business in the US, so they shouldn't be held accountable to US law. I haven't looked into the specifics, but apparently that hasn't kept them safe.
Um. The camp x-ray folks aren't the biggest concern. This is an issue of our constitutional rights: Maybe Zacarias Moussaoui belongs in a military prison. Jose Padilla however, as far as facts in evidence show, no different from you or I. Of course, I believe wholeheartedly that he is different from you or I, it just hasn't been proven to a judge. And if we're in "wartime" right now, please, tell me when in history we should have been at peace.
Thank you. Mod parent up. *Bad* SC games were simple. Good ones involved some insanely good tactics and strategy.
On the low level, it's about streamlining everything for maximum resource usage. On the high level, your resources are used. The focus is on microcontrol and efficient force combinations, because no monolithic force will win.
Um. What? That's the worst pair of analogies I've ever heard. In my entire life.
How about this: You go into a bank, rob it, and because of this, everyone everywhere can have all the material posessions that they want. This is of course, not possible. It is possible with digital media. Intellectual property and money are inherently not analogous.
As to your leeching argument... what? Does that make any sense to anyone else? (No, SuperDuG, please do not repeat it for me.) In the future, try using shorter sentences.
And when you link your 10 million line program with my 10 million line program, we've got a 20 million line program. This idea of an inherent limit to the complexity of programs using current methods is pure larksvomit, and if Jaron Lanier sells it, he's a snake oil hawker.
This is Jack's total lack of surprise ->:|
If this isn't a troll, my name isn't Elwood P. Dowd. And it isn't.
Don't swap your grocery store cards. Everyone can use the same grocery store card. At Safeway, all my friends punch in the same phone number: (510)THE-SCAM.
It would absolutely be better for SA if the coder were an employee of some company in SA, rather than a government employee.
That is, of course, if the work being done is generalizable to other applications. The gov't would contract their customizations to this outside worker.
However, if the work being done were specific to the gov't's needs, then it might be best to employ them directly. They would be a system administrator.
These concepts are of course not at all related to the debate at hand, which is OSS vs closed source software. This explicitly is not industry, and would not be designed to compete with any existing companies. This is just the cheapest way to run government infrastructure. I'm sure you'd agree that is a worthwhile goal.
Well. I know I didn't invent the idea. Somehow I doubt Neal Stephenson did either, but I first read the idea in his book, Snow Crash.
And it's a hell of a lot different than retinal implants. I don't want to have to modify my body for use with the technology. If I got a computer virus that put pop-up ads in my eyes, I'd probably have to shoot myself.
According to this link, Anarchofascist is right and we're wrong. And if it's on the web, then it must be true! The iris is the colored part of the eye, around the black pupil. Your point is probably correct, that it'd be best to target the pupil...
But I'm still wrong. The iris wouldn't do at all.
So... try being correct when you correct someone's pedantic pupil correction urge. Nur.
They could require the use of an earbud headphone. And the POV could be relative to the headphone. Do it with radio triangulation or something. Then you could put a button on the PDA that recenters the display if things go out of whack. Seems like that would perfectly deal with the jitter issue. It would definitely deal with the bus turning a corner. Like you say, you'd need fast updates on the screen.
Of course, I don't want a PDA until they can draw on my iris with lasers. I require a 50" display that fits in the palm of my hand, and can be used to permanently blind my enemy in tactical combat.
They could require the use of an earbud headphone. And the POV could be relative to the headphone. Then you could put a button on the PDA that recenters the display if things get out of whack. Seems like that would perfectly deal with the jitter issue. Like you say, you'd need fast updates on the screen.
Of course, I don't want a PDA until they can draw on my iris with lasers. I want a 50" display that fits in the palm of my hand, and can be used to permanently blind my enemy in tactical combat.
When you're the government, and you need a solution to deploy to a five thousand desktops, the money you spend on licenses could just as well be spent on OSS development. Then, when you deploy to ten thousand desktops, licenses cost nothing.
The programmer *is* making a living writing programs: He's an employee of the South African government, rather than Microsoft. His spending power and expertise improves the economy of South Africa, not Washington state. If he quits, hire and train someone else. It's still a better investment than software licenses.
I kindof felt like The Crying of Lot 49 was overly cheap and easy. It was as if Pynchon was laughing about how funny he was while he wrote it.
But it is more accessible, and it is funny. And the new york times reviewer says that Gibson's latest (Pattern Recognition) is very similar to it.
And for some reason I disagree about Gravity's Rainbow being harder than Vineland. There are certainly plenty of situations in both where it's impossible to know what's going on for sure, but it seemed more comfortable in Gravity's Rainbow, even when it was more convoluted.
And, I'm from northern California. So Vineland will hold a special place in my heart. It's very accurate, if you're curious.
Well. From your short list, I get the idea that you have some horrible taste. For everyone else (especially the Snow Crash fans), I'd recommend Thomas Pynchon's Vineland.
I got that recommendation off the back cover of the book. One of the BS PR quotes was "This book is a cross between Gibson's Neuromancer and Pynchon's Vineland." Hrm... I liked Snow Crash; I liked Neuromancer...
All my friends went out and read it, and we were all happy to have done so. Even though it was a *lot* of work to get through.
And if you can't possibly work that hard, and you need something in your limited little genre (I know, they're not new, but) I'd recommend Ursula K Leguinn's Earthsea stuff or Octavia Butler's Parable of a Sower. And read *everything* Gibson wrote. If you don't like what he did after Neuromancer... learn to change. He's the only active Sci-fi writer that I'm terribly interested in, and Pattern Recognition is due shortly.
Right. But the copyright notice may also be in printed documentation, or buried in online help, or in some about box that we aren't looking for. There are a million places they might have put the notice.
*And* if they're using BSD tools that were covered under the latest licenses, then they don't have to include the copyright notice anyway. I want to see a really well laid out accusation before I bother worrying about the quality of the counter-argument.
I'd consider microsoft innocent until proven guilty. Certainly when it comes to accusations made on/.
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I was trying to make a joke about their current legal argument. Such a download message might make their court case a lot more convincing.
Everyone would still use it if they knew about the ad network. It's a fantastically useful system, despite the drawbacks. Hopefully they'll get squashed, and eventually one of the hydra heads will have none of the drawbacks.
I don't care what his name is. He could have changed his name to "I Hate America". He's a citizen. He was arrested in the US. You have to *prove* he did something wrong. You have to do it in court. You have to at least convince a court that it's a military issue, which they have not done.
"Thank you for downloading your personal advertising delivery system! Please follow the onscreen instructions so that we may deliver customized advertising content to your computer. Any use of this software that is not for the purposes of advertising distribution and delivery is strictly prohibited! Infringing use will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law! [ed note: that is, not prosecuted at all]
Have a nice day!"
Can't they just say people in the US are not permitted to download or use their software, and by that claim that US infringers are not lawfully their customers, and so evade prosecution alltogether?
But then there goes their availability on download.com, and there goes their visibility to US users, and eventually their installed base won't seem so attractive to advertisers. They might remain viable that way, but they'd certainly be less profitable. Also, iirc, they already tried to argue that they didn't do substantial business in the US, so they shouldn't be held accountable to US law. I haven't looked into the specifics, but apparently that hasn't kept them safe.
Um. The camp x-ray folks aren't the biggest concern. This is an issue of our constitutional rights: Maybe Zacarias Moussaoui belongs in a military prison. Jose Padilla however, as far as facts in evidence show, no different from you or I. Of course, I believe wholeheartedly that he is different from you or I, it just hasn't been proven to a judge. And if we're in "wartime" right now, please, tell me when in history we should have been at peace.
Thank you. Mod parent up. *Bad* SC games were simple. Good ones involved some insanely good tactics and strategy.
On the low level, it's about streamlining everything for maximum resource usage. On the high level, your resources are used. The focus is on microcontrol and efficient force combinations, because no monolithic force will win.
Um. What? That's the worst pair of analogies I've ever heard. In my entire life.
How about this: You go into a bank, rob it, and because of this, everyone everywhere can have all the material posessions that they want. This is of course, not possible. It is possible with digital media. Intellectual property and money are inherently not analogous.
As to your leeching argument... what? Does that make any sense to anyone else? (No, SuperDuG, please do not repeat it for me.) In the future, try using shorter sentences.
Please request the source and begin to distribute it. You don't have to distribute it very far, just make sure it's out there.
And when you link your 10 million line program with my
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10 million line program, we've got a 20 million line program.
This idea of an inherent limit to the complexity of
programs using current methods is pure larksvomit, and
if Jaron Lanier sells it, he's a snake oil hawker.
This is Jack's total lack of surprise ->
If this isn't a troll, my name isn't Elwood P. Dowd. And it isn't.
>> we will not be writing programs bigger than about 10 million lines of code no matter how fast our processors become
> And how is this a problem?
You flamebaiter! How dare you post such vitriolic filth on slashdot! Where do you get off?!
Ah, but we killed the wicked witch of the east; this is her sister, the wicked witch of the west. She's much worse.
Actually, they're both based in LA.
We know a great deal about how atoms interact, but we aren't so sure about how to combine them to make a 'big picture' of matter.
Uh... you mean... uh... chemistry?
'Cause if you're talking about some other big picture of matter, fill us in.
Don't swap your grocery store cards. Everyone can use the same grocery store card. At Safeway, all my friends punch in the same phone number: (510)THE-SCAM.
Please, join the club.
It would absolutely be better for SA if the coder were an employee of some company in SA, rather than a government employee.
That is, of course, if the work being done is generalizable to other applications. The gov't would contract their customizations to this outside worker.
However, if the work being done were specific to the gov't's needs, then it might be best to employ them directly. They would be a system administrator.
These concepts are of course not at all related to the debate at hand, which is OSS vs closed source software. This explicitly is not industry, and would not be designed to compete with any existing companies. This is just the cheapest way to run government infrastructure. I'm sure you'd agree that is a worthwhile goal.
You're a troll too.
Well. I know I didn't invent the idea. Somehow I doubt Neal Stephenson did either, but I first read the idea in his book, Snow Crash.
And it's a hell of a lot different than retinal implants. I don't want to have to modify my body for use with the technology. If I got a computer virus that put pop-up ads in my eyes, I'd probably have to shoot myself.
That's a little big. When I say "fits in the palm of my hand," I mean that I want it to stay there and draw to my pupil at range.
According to this link, Anarchofascist is right and we're wrong. And if it's on the web, then it must be true! The iris is the colored part of the eye, around the black pupil. Your point is probably correct, that it'd be best to target the pupil...
But I'm still wrong. The iris wouldn't do at all.
So... try being correct when you correct someone's pedantic pupil correction urge. Nur.
They could require the use of an earbud headphone. And the POV could be relative to the headphone. Do it with radio triangulation or something. Then you could put a button on the PDA that recenters the display if things go out of whack. Seems like that would perfectly deal with the jitter issue. It would definitely deal with the bus turning a corner. Like you say, you'd need fast updates on the screen.
Of course, I don't want a PDA until they can draw on my iris with lasers. I require a 50" display that fits in the palm of my hand, and can be used to permanently blind my enemy in tactical combat.
They could require the use of an earbud headphone. And the POV could be relative to the headphone. Then you could put a button on the PDA that recenters the display if things get out of whack. Seems like that would perfectly deal with the jitter issue. Like you say, you'd need fast updates on the screen.
Of course, I don't want a PDA until they can draw on my iris with lasers. I want a 50" display that fits in the palm of my hand, and can be used to permanently blind my enemy in tactical combat.
You're trolling.
Nevertheless:
When you're the government, and you need a solution to deploy to a five thousand desktops, the money you spend on licenses could just as well be spent on OSS development. Then, when you deploy to ten thousand desktops, licenses cost nothing.
The programmer *is* making a living writing programs: He's an employee of the South African government, rather than Microsoft. His spending power and expertise improves the economy of South Africa, not Washington state. If he quits, hire and train someone else. It's still a better investment than software licenses.
The world doesn't need one Piers Anthony.
touché. But we got two anyway, with that idiot Terry whatever.
I kindof felt like The Crying of Lot 49 was overly cheap and easy. It was as if Pynchon was laughing about how funny he was while he wrote it.
But it is more accessible, and it is funny. And the new york times reviewer says that Gibson's latest (Pattern Recognition) is very similar to it.
And for some reason I disagree about Gravity's Rainbow being harder than Vineland. There are certainly plenty of situations in both where it's impossible to know what's going on for sure, but it seemed more comfortable in Gravity's Rainbow, even when it was more convoluted.
And, I'm from northern California. So Vineland will hold a special place in my heart. It's very accurate, if you're curious.
Well. From your short list, I get the idea that you have some horrible taste. For everyone else (especially the Snow Crash fans), I'd recommend Thomas Pynchon's Vineland.
I got that recommendation off the back cover of the book. One of the BS PR quotes was "This book is a cross between Gibson's Neuromancer and Pynchon's Vineland." Hrm... I liked Snow Crash; I liked Neuromancer...
All my friends went out and read it, and we were all happy to have done so. Even though it was a *lot* of work to get through.
And if you can't possibly work that hard, and you need something in your limited little genre (I know, they're not new, but) I'd recommend Ursula K Leguinn's Earthsea stuff or Octavia Butler's Parable of a Sower. And read *everything* Gibson wrote. If you don't like what he did after Neuromancer... learn to change. He's the only active Sci-fi writer that I'm terribly interested in, and Pattern Recognition is due shortly.
Only when we can render the Final Fantasy movie in real time, and then they can work on making things easier to write and require less design work.
Right. But the copyright notice may also be in printed documentation, or buried in online help, or in some about box that we aren't looking for. There are a million places they might have put the notice.
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*And* if they're using BSD tools that were covered under the latest licenses, then they don't have to include the copyright notice anyway. I want to see a really well laid out accusation before I bother worrying about the quality of the counter-argument.
I'd consider microsoft innocent until proven guilty. Certainly when it comes to accusations made on