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Warcraft III Expansion
Ultra Magnus writes "Looks like Blizzard is releasing an expansion pack to WC3. I've always been pleased with their expansions before, so I hope this lives up to expectations."
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Or am I off on the weekly schedule? Because I could swear this was the week we're upset over the DMCA server stuff.
This was very unexpected. /sarcasm
Who didn't see this comming?
Instead of wasting time with Warcraft, where's Starcraft 2!?! And not some stupid console version please
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The Features:
1) New Heroes for each race (1/race)
2) New Campaigns
3) New units for each race
4) Some sort of new building?
5) Random heroes that can be recruited by any player.
Opinionated Law Student Strikes Again!
Well, if this isn't late breaking news, I don't know what is!
Isn't online news supposed to be really fresh? This is a week old.
I'm as mimsy as the next borogove but your mome raths are completely outgrabe.
"The Frozen Throne"...
Now, that'll wake you up in the morning!
Should have been from the "days-old-news-bin."
Seriously, this was announced days ago. Seems that if the Slashdot community really cared about this, it would have already been posted. But I guess today must have been an extremely slow news day for this "everyone knew it was going to come out sooner or later" to make the front page.
Blizzard promise that this extension to WC3 will allow the standards body to resolutely approve new web standards well within a year of their being suggested.
Oh, hang on...
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Ending like WC3 has,... how do you create anything more in that line ? It was all a bad joke ? It was actually someone's bad dream ?
"There is always some madness in love. But there is also always some reason in madness."- Friedrich Nietzsche
Bah! Brood War was (is) one of the greatest games I've ever played. Diablo II pretty much sucked and was a lousy follow-up to a great game (chop-chop-chop). Warcraft III is even worse. Bad graphics, boring gameplay, no sense of humor. Which is too bad because Warcraft II *is* the greatest game I've ever played.
Neverwinter Nights kicks the s**t out of War3, by a light year. I know, they're not the same game type, but War III sucks. Sorry.
Hope Blizz get's it right next time. This is 2 strikes in a row. Not that I'll be playing the next Blizz game on my Mac if M$ buys them anyways...
Can;t wait for the penguin client for NWN!
The heat from below can burn your eyes out
Warcraft3: The Iraqi invasion
word.
Old news, The information was announced last week and all the new info has already been leaked.
about BNETD
I read about this over a week ago on SA.
Tomorrow there will most likey be a thread letting us know that LOTR is going to be made into a movie.
I think you mean 8th or something post...
http://www.bnetd.org/
BG
Hello, and welcome to last week.
Aren't we still hating Blizzard?
Yep, you'n'me both! As for everyone else, they made it one of the best-selling titles ever, so I think that was a pretty darned ineffective boycott...
Ooh, a sarcasm detector. Oh, that's a real useful invention.
Wanna know what I'm looking for?
A patch that allows a WarCraft III player go up against an Age Of Mythology player. Better yet, make some sort of a patchwork quilt where you've got Sims Online to the north, Command & Conquer to the south, EverQuest to the east, and WarCraft to the west.
THAT would be fun.
Bowie J. Poag
...but was no-doubt rejected by the patented /. Random Submission Selector Device. That device, btw, has been programmed to favor stories from/about Australia and the UK. I have no idea why that should be... ;-)
Well I hope the poor king doesn't loose his crown jewels to frostbite.
If Blizzard is trying to do to Warcraft III, what BroodWar did yo Starcraft ... Good Luck. They are missing their time as Warcraft III did little to innovate unlike SC. For that reason, it may just be better to tap into the SC users and release something good, like a well designed SC2 :)
I found it interesting that some outfit called 'Swords and Sorcery Studios' has partnered with Blizzard to put out the Dungeons & Dragons WarCraft RPG too. I'm sure there's a couple of geeks who still get off on spinning 20 sided dice for kicks.
Story is here. NOTE: This is NOT a computer game, its the same D&D we all had a crack at/obsessed over in our teens. Although a video game version would be pretty cool to see in the future.
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I just hope they keep the 200 cap for units for SC2... I think WC3 is missing that 'total warfare' feeling with the cap at 90 units.
"There is no teacher but the enemy."-Mazer Rackham
"I hate blizzard; screw WC3!
"Oooh, shiny."
In my defense, I dualboot OS X to play it and not winshit.
You can't judge a book by the way it wears its hair.
Bad graphics... Have you played Brood Wars or Warcraft II lately? Boring gameplay? I guess that's why the battle.net servers are still flooded with Starcraft players and no one bothers playing Warcraft III at all.
Blizzard hasn't done anything wrong for you to say they have 2 strikes! Diablo II was a great seller and Warcraft III has broken all sorts of records. They are moving into the console market soon and releasing a MMORPG with World of Warcraft. Blizzard is a god of the RTS genre, and nothing will change that anytime soon.
I think the complexity of online game protocols is all that keeps us from seriously cheating. You could easily write a simple client for SC that has a single unit kicking everything else's ass until resources are gone and you win.
The only way to circumvent this would be to do all the "work" on the server defeating the purpose of sharing.
You can't judge a book by the way it wears its hair.
I don't really like expansions on games like Warcraft 3 because they are hard enough and have enough levels as is and an expansion would just kill the game like we have seen with many others out there. However Brood Wars expansion was great, it wasn't excellent and I would only use it online for the extra men you get like valkiri and medics. But as far as single player campaigns and extra levels that it brings, it's just not worth it!
Well, I slowly came to the realization that I didn't like the game very much. It was just boring. I got the feeling that part of the reason that StarCraft was so fun was because you could be creative and play strategies that the developers hadn't intended. Unfortunately, they must have thought that was a bad thing, because in WC3, they capped the unit limit much lower and added the annoying concept of "upkeep". Now, every game is the same (you have like two or three strategy options), and if one of your team's partners is a bad player or just uncooperative, you're screwed.
I'll buy the expansion. I hope it turns my opinion of the game around. I really *want* to like WC3. If it's even half as good as SC, it should give me limitless hours of entertainment.
...just my 2 gil.
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Well, I'm dissapointed that the Burning Legion didn't somehow worm their way into the expansion as a playable race, buuuut... it's nice that there will be new clan features. That's something I've always wondered about - in all the FPS and RTS and RPGs and yada yada, why the heck are clans always an out-of-game feature? You'd think by now that game developers would have gotten wind of the fact that gamers like to group together. Why not give them options to solidify that in-game?
Cant belive that they could create another expansion to War3. The story was terrific. Many months have passed since Archimonde and the Burning Legion were defeated at the Battle of Mount Hyjal... The stalwart night elves, led by the Arch Druid, Furion Stormrage and the Priestess Tyrande Whisperwind, have vanished back into the shadows of Ashenvale Forest - intent to heal the ancient lands that were scarred by the Legion's vile corruption. The battle-weary orcish Horde, led by the idealistic Warchief, Thrall, has settled in the harsh, eastern hills of the Kalimdor Barrens. Finally able to claim a homeland of their own, the orcs work tirelessly to found and protect their new nation of Durotar. The human survivors of Lordaeron, under the command of the Sorceress, Jaina Proudmoore, have also settled along the eastern coast of the Barrens. The island citadel of Theramore was erected to safeguard the last, rag-tag remnants of the failing human Alliance. ...And Arthas, the newly crowned King of Lordaeron, has driven the undead Scourge to eradicate the last vestiges of resistance to his iron rule. His kingdom - the once proud bastion of human might and nobility - has become a plagued realm of death and sorrow. Now, driven by haunting visions of the Frozen Throne of Icecrown, Arthas plans to tighten his grip over the rest of the world.
* * * ...Still, one dark soul still remains at large...
For in some shadowed corner of the world, the wayward creature known as Illidan Stormrage plots... and awaits...
and the art was absolutely amazing . cant wait to play this new game . Blizzard says it comes out in summer 2003 .
but i seriously hope that Microsoft doesnt buy Vivendi games .If this happens , i wouldnt buy any game from blizzard
That would explain all the confusion about hating Blizzard this week.
Heck, they already have a unit-list up here, they should have just gone forward with it.
Anyone else find it humorous that the Blizzard link in the article links to bnetd.org ? Thought this might just be more PR for Blizzard till I noticed the link
I wonder if they have decided to add CD keys to their expansion packs now. My guess is no, there isn't any good reason to. But then again, why have CD keys on any of their titles? From what I have read, publishers make them add that sort of "copy protection" to their products.
Personally, I'll just be happy with a game that doesn't require me to log in with administrative privileges. That sounds like a potential security problem waiting to happen.
The main point of this expansion is for the player to destroy the dark, brooding fortress of BNetD in order to protect the business model of this fair land.
Warcraft III Expansion!!! more like celda
This is the first Blizzard game I have boycotted because of the bnetd issue, so so I thought I'd let my opinion be known that I could care less about the expansion. I do, however, still play DiabloII because of my bnetd server with my friends.
That is all. Thank you.
Most folk'll never lose a toe, and then again some folk'll...
Here you go, World of Warcraft, a video game Warcraft RPG.
About time too!
If Google really cared they would fix Android Chrome to reflow text, instead of discriminating
They should get better programmers if they can't increase that cap! Look at Cossacks, they have litteraly THOUSANDS of units on screen, and it doesn't lag at all. 200 is the number if peasants you have!
And that happens to be true!
If Google really cared they would fix Android Chrome to reflow text, instead of discriminating
... than a dupe! :)
If Google really cared they would fix Android Chrome to reflow text, instead of discriminating
An expansion to a sequel. How original. Where's my checkbook?
sigh...
Warcraft III: Humans vs. DMCA!
Anyone who has ever played this game to completion on any difficulty mode will know this game has a sense of humor. I don't want to spoil it for those who haven't beat it yet but the end credits of wc3 are funnier than anything I've ever seen in a game.
Humor is great, the graphics are pretty decent for a RTS, and the gameplay is fun the first time around (the replay is where it gets boring).
So speak bad about something else.
Maybe they'll put in some units to counter those fsck'ing mass dryads and witch doctors!
Warcraft 3 sucked, it makes me happy that they still have like 300 copies left out of the 400 they stocked at fry's in phoenix months ago. Goes to show that a straight-up marketing blitz only gets the fanboys and the uninformed, the rest of us just get depressed that they ruined the good name of this franchise.
It did go gold, but most of the copies they sold were pre-orders by fanboys, keep that in mind.
Hope they get bought by MS and die like so many X-box X-pectations
Some of the dedicated b.net players are dissapointed by this. The usual Blizzard fanboys are, as expected, frothing at their mouths. But this "expansion" is both ill-timed and a slap in the face to those of us that have been patiently waiting for Blizzard to fix Warcraft III multiplayer. Some of the new multiplayer features (like clan support) were hoped to be in the game originally. Many of the things they're adding are features that have been asked for since the public beta, and Bliz kept giving generic responses -- "We value the fans opinions..." -- leading us to believe they were planning on implementing them. They kept telling us they were working hard to improve b.net and planned many changes, but now we find out the changes are exclusively for the expansion!
And furthermore, the imbalances in Warcraft III are so blatantly obvious that it's sickening. The only redeeming factor is that each race has so many different imbalances it's usually possible to compete between races. But come tournament time, one or two main strategies (sometimes bordering on being bug exploits) appear.
What I'm getting at here is that I'm not excited; I'm dissapointed. Warcraft III to many still isn't finished. Map hackers (and other cheaters) run rampant on b.net, the ladder and scoring systems are in serious need of an overhaul, there has been no mention of Warcraft seasons or Blizzard-sanctioned tournament, and their attempt at "balancing" the game have become so bad that Warcraft III is nothing like what it was originally supposed to be, at least judging from the beta. (Need to kill high-ranking undead abominations? Mass frail spellcasters and rush them in headlong! No melee support needed!)
Blizzard led us all to believe that they were intent on fixing the broken multiplayer system. Now I find out that for $30 I can have the game I was originally promised. Way to go Blizzard.
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"God is a comedian playing to an audience too afraid to laugh." -Voltaire
"Yes, that's what the market needs, another $60 video game. "
That might be a valid point if a.) WC3 costs $60 (it doesn't, it's $50 just like every other game out there) and b.) If Warcraft 3 was another run-of-the-mill game.
As for your liking it, your choice. But if games aren't successful in the market, you're going to have fewer companies like Blizzard trying to do something interesting. The fact that they released it when they felt they were ready alone is a behaviour we (as consumers) need to encourage. It's not a guaranteed winner because they take their time on it, but it beats rushing it out the door to make a trade-show deadline.
Somebody has made a custom map called "Bomb bin laden", so there might :)
;)
After all the most played WC3 games on BattleNet seems to be custom games (ie, people make maps which not like regular games, different rules, units etc)
I just checked BattleNet:
Number of Starcraft games being played: 10967
Number of Warcraft III games being played: 4925
Perhaps that should tell them something
If Google really cared they would fix Android Chrome to reflow text, instead of discriminating
http://www.gamespy.com/interviews/january03/war3tf t/
An interview with some more info.
Someone said something lame, and a bunch of people agreed with the lamer.
Warcraft 3 is ok, I won over 1500 games of it. I like Starcraft before the expansion much better in terms of comepetive play.
Warcraft 3 is less fighting your enemy, and more powering up on NPC monsters so you have no chance of losing when you run across your enemy.
God spoke to me
played it on b.net for about 2 hours, relized the only way to win online was to make the same unit over and over, tossed the game in a shelf somewhere and went back to playing starcraft.
I'll be anonymous here because I fear for my life after telling deluded Slashdoters that WIII and DII are the sorriest ass games ever. Sure Warcraft was fun. So was Diablo (well, a bit less). All they have done for the sequels was to improve the graphics. Sorry, Diablo II is actually identical to the original (beats me why it took the three years to make it - hey I wanna work for these guys!!). Games haven't changed a bit (even the originals were pretty brain dead to be honest). Pretty fraking *boring* and old! Expansion pack on a washed out sequel! Yay! I can't wait!
Were are the boats threre is not worcraft whitout the boats! ( yes i now that thare whare no in wc1 but thay realy rocked in wc2)
unless they make a native linux port of Warcraft 3, its not worth my time... Damned if im gonna risk making my system unstable just to be able to play a game by running an untrusted (by me) OS (windows). :p
Building: Game Expansion
Requirements: Must be part of the Blizzard faction
Resources: 2000gp
The WC3 Expansion is upgrade from WC3. When it is completed, it brings about an increase in gold production, fan loyalty(like "Blizzard rocks"), and opposing commentary(ex: "This is unoriginial"). It also extends the life of WC3 for 4 to 6 months.
Taco made a bunch of posts today, so it doesn't look that slow of a news day. Then again, the question "How many are dupes" begs to be answered.
was this overrated at +3?
Sorry, I meant "added appeal to sheep".
If Starcraft is the RTS equivelant of Olympic fencing, then Warcraft III is a bunch of grade schoolers playing at WWF.
If you were blocking sigs, you wouldn't have to read this.
that blizzard will make this expansion cheat-free, this time they will make it right. (Just like MS keeps on making more stable than ever OS's)
Also, I'm sure the 1.10 patch to diablo 2 will come out soon also, after all, it's only been a year in the making.
I'm sure they will fix the cheating in Diablo2 at the same time.
I'm also sure that any issues people have with the expansion will be taken into consideration.
Ok, that was pure sarcasm, but I am confident that this game will sell a bazillion copies like every other blizzard game, and be unsupported once there's no more money to dig.
It's a shame they make so good games, really. I'd love taking my money to someone who cares about their customers.
just so true!!!!!
Why doesn't Blizzard stop releasing "expansion packs" a short time after a game's release and start actually making with the goods initially. Consider this scenario:
:)
Blizzard releases a great game in the initial release. Maybe a couple of patches to deal with unit balances and stuff, but there shouldn't be any major flaws that need fixing. Then (and here's the tricky part), they actually get to work on the sequel right away! Who ever thought they could improve on all aspects of the game instead of just adding to the original?
Seriously, why would I want to pay basically the price of the original game over again for an expansion pack that generally adds little to things like graphics and the game's core functionality? Especially in games like Warcraft, where you're guaranteed a wealth of custom scenarios created by other players, great to keep interest in a game. If the company put the manpower into getting the next chapter in the game underway, they could avoid making us wait years and years for the next game in the series.
But of course this means they can't bank on everyone paying twice for the game + expansion pack. Since everybody buys them off the shelves the instant they get put there, nothing's gonna change.
On a note related specifically to War3, I was surprised at how little had really changed from War2 except for the graphics. Sure, they integrated the neat control features from Starcraft like easier unit grouping and such, and added heroes, but I don't think it justifies the amount of time the game's been in development. Blizzard is in the great position of being able to release any garbage they want and have it break sales records.
WC3 was $59.95 when it came out. (Of course, those were premium "Collector's Editions")
Today, however, it is $22 dollars.
Can't say this is news as I (and the rest of the world apart from michael aparently) have know about this for a couple of weeks.
Let us hope that the fact that it's olds doesn't make a dupe of this come tomorrow (hi CmdrTaco).
Actualy, I have seen it for $40.
It was me, I did it, I moved your cheese
Yes, it was $60 to begin with, but can now be gotten for $40 or less if you actually put some effort into it. These cheap-o $50 console games? They will remain $50 for 80% of their shelf-life because console companies keep the pressure on stores to keep the prices artificially inflated.
In rumors, this WC3 expansion is taking priority over Diablo II 1.10 patch efforts. 1.10 was slotted for last fall. It's feb. and still no showing of a patch that will hopefully fix the many hacks introduced. I have already heard of many who vow never to buy a blizz game again because of their lack of maintainence. Why bring out the expansion to a game that sux already instead of fixing a kick-ass one?! Starcraft is still far superior to Warcraft3. I hope Microsoft buys Vivendi, perhaps then the devil of the software industry will knock some sense into them. Warcraft 3 blows, Diablo 2 rocks, get it right douchebags. In response to previous post, OS X is a piece of shit. I would rather run Windows 95 that stoop to that inferior piece of shite. Mac = Newb
you must have missed the memo... After the incident last night, he was renamed nemoSumGuzzler
Jeezus Christ, who gives a fuck?
those screenshots are pretty neato. That new hero for the humans, the 'blood mage', looks pretty cool.
I still don't understand the allure of Blizzards two most recent RTS's. Both SC and WarIII balance play by limiting you. Why on earth should i only be allowed to select 12 units? It makes no sense and just makes my life painful. Why should i have to babysit my resource production to make it as effective as possible. Since when did somebody think it was a good idea to hurt new players by forcing you to place your resource gathering structures at a certain distance, no more no less. Aren't RTS's supposed to be about the combat?
Well the game that did that right was total annihilation. More than 6 months before Blizzard ever released starcraft(yet over 2 years past the day it was orginally supposed to be released) it came out. It had better graphics, better gameplay, real physics, even water combat. Best of all you actually got to fight instead of manage resources. It still is the best RTS out there in my opinion and its still getting better. It has a mod community that has created thousands of new units for the game many of them better than what the game designers made. Now you can play everything from space battles to fighting as the rebels against the empire in a starwars total conversion. Many completely new races have even been made.(races in Total Annihilation have more than 200 units) Even completely new game matching services have been made. These are in someways better than Battle.net. They offer meta games of galatic wars where you fight against other players for control of planets in a galaxy to help your side. And after you play those games you can replay them in full 3d using a program made by community members. Yet blizzard is still putting along and with the release of WCIII:FT it will probably sell to more unknowing customers millions of copys. So next time you're at your local software store and are going to pick up that expansion pack think for a second and take a look at TA. at 10$ for it and its two expansions(the commander pack) it is probably worth your while.
Of course, that's assuming that you didn't spend the whole night playing wc3 :-)
"And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Savior of the World"
1 John 4:14
Did you know they had 4-lane roads originally in SimCity 4 before release (there were screenshots)? Also, notice you can't edit region sizes in-game? And so on and so on...obviously, EA is holding out for an expansion pack, like they overdid with The Sims. I am so sick of expansion packs, to be honest. They were neat and exciting in the 90s; for instance, the one put out for WarCraft II where you went to the Orc homeworld. But it's become too much of a routine now to use expansion packs as a way to IMPROVE the game as it should have been instead of simply adding on to it.
It's a ok game, It's not warcraftesk in enyway. though. Hero's are distracting, the damn 3D graphics don't add anything that I care about to the game, and in many cases detract from it. A expansion for me would be good if: It it went back to sprites, added burning leogin, and definatly did something so as that the damn hero's didn't distract from the fun of the game, and added MUCH more sense of humour.
First, I'd like to defend Blizzard's decision to make an expansion pack shortly after a game comes out. First, they can nail down their core content and actually make sure it's fun. I could go on and on about games that tried to do too much that just fell short of fun. If they tried to include all of the expansion info the first time I wouldn't want to think how long it would take them to release a game knowing Blizzard.
Also, it's unrealistic they would ever be able to predict the PERFECT game. C'mon, you know it's impossible. They're obviously going to forget something or miss something, and you should THANK THEM for taking some feedback and building it into an expansion pack instead of outright ignoring everyone. Or that they are continuing development on the game even though it's out the door.
Finally, WC3 was supposed to cross genre's of RPG and RTS. When you think about it there really aren't (m)any games that do this, much less successfully. WC3 is about what I would think about if I were to imagine an RPG/RTS, so I'd say that's a successful experiment on their part. Is it not enough for them to make a decent game that stretches the boundaries of the genres? WC3 was also tweaked to encourage combat over micromanaging resources. You can see this in the low population cap, the inclusion of NPC monsters, and favoritism toward experienced heroes. Unfortunately the units are far too mortal to micromanage battles without having a degree in twitch, which I think is WC3's main flaw. And it doesn't help that the autocast system isn't more powerful.
Where's Starcraft 2? Well since it's probably not going to be a 3D version of Starcraft or Warcraft 3 in space, I imagine Blizzard has their work cut out for them. If someone wasn't already doing it I think a FPS / RTS would be a good challenge. Ghost might be a step in that direction.
All in all, I've had a fun time with WC3. It's fairly balanced, well paced, and polished. I might note its level editor certainly doesn't get enough press. Blizzard has been including powerful scriptable level editors since Starcraft, about when NWN was still just a cool idea.
WC3 is great, and you're a fuckwit. Best RTS since Total Annihilation.
You'd think there'd at least be a new race, given the game was originally slated to have 6, then it got cut to 5, then it got chopped to 4. From what I gather, the space is already in the game for a new race to be added (so WC3 mod developers have told me).
The expansion back sounds mostly worthless. (And I LOVE WC3 for the record.)
When I was skimming the front page a few minutes ago I saw the "WC3" there and thought "Wing Commander III? What's that doing getting mentioned on Slashdot, it's 9 years old!.... well, I guess it could be a re-post!" :)
Seriously though... am I crazy, or are there other people who still associate "WC3" with that space-combat sim that, at its release, needed just about all the computing power a then-new 486 could muster?
I'm beginning to wonder if maybe the question should be "how many of us are dupes for coming here anymore?"
:-(
This place is hemorrhaging relevancy by the minute.
the expansion pack will change the gameplay with new heroes and units to play with... It will make B.net interesting for a couple days as everyone plays around with new strategies
Opinionated Law Student Strikes Again!
As was I, until the day the Diablo II xpack was released... While it was fun for a while, and really enhanced the gameplay, it also made the ladder system totally pointless. It was so easy to get experience that people could reach level 99 in a day. I liked the D2 xpack a lot, but it also ruined D2 for me...
However, as far as the RTS genre goes, Blizzard knows what they are doing. Blizzard is one of the ONLY companies that actually can create RTS missions which don't bore me to death. I trust this xpack will be excellent.
"To confine our attention to terrestrial matters would be to limit the human spirit." -Stephen Hawking
Uh, in Finland, the game originally sold for 60 euros. Though, I got the game at post-Christmas price of 35 euros... In the summer I had money for one game, and WarIII seemed way too expensive. I got NWN because that was a game that I had actually been waiting for =)
Of course Warcraft III isn't yet another run-of-the-mill game. It's a polished, beautiful, somewhat innovative, enjoyable and popular run-of-the-mill game. =)
Going gold in software is not the same as going gold in music. Going gold in software means they've printed up the original CD from which the game CD's will be burnt. Going gold in music means you've sold 500,000 copies of your album.
My night-elf just married a death-knight. Ewww... what an ugly baby.
It wasn't mentioned in the Press Release, but a while back I saw this on the page that shows the updates to the strategy guide:
http://www.battle.net/war3/pandaren/
The screen shots make them look like Furbolgs with different texture, but they don't show any of the heros.
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Blizzard, a company who released the cinematics for it's last game on DivX, as well as releasing a Windows/Mac/Wine compatible game on one disk, is hardly the evil empire. I can think of a million better targets for your bashing without using the other half of my brain.
ad logicam Claiming a proposition is false because it was presented as the conclusion of a fallacious argument.
Though you'll never find me to prosecute...
/with 1MB Trident ISA VGA couldn't handle it: so I fell-through and bought a 486 DX4 100 and it was still choppy in my wee-little 256 colors, IIRC. In the end of my MS Windows days, I owned a Pentium 150 /with a rip-off over-priced (Fry's electronics purchase/ripodd) 4MB ATI 3D Pro Turbo +PC2TV that didn't feature openGL and was unstable. I then upgraded to RedHat Linux 5.2 and the ATI shit had a bug that the video would "go out" though the computer is still alive; telnet from another host, and shutdown is all I can do. In the long run, I lost site of Wing Commander III because that is when I started my Linux ventures and is the first experience with ATI being a schyster of a graphics hardware.
I always think of Wing Commander III when I see the symbols WCIII. My wee-old 386 50MHz computer
3Dfx was great, though I think PowerVR is where the marbles will be in the future.
Wing commander was fantastic. One of the best games of its time. There need to be more space flight sims, w/multiplayer capabilites.