SCI-FI movies(TTT)and comedies (Greek Wedding)won't get the respect they deserve
Both have gotten more respect then they ever deserved. TTT I enjoyed, but was (IMO) Hollywood fluff compared to FOTR.
My Big Fat Greek Wedding was not at all funny (and I laugh at almost anything) and was labeled as a tiny, independant film that beat the odds and became a huge hit, too bad it was getting hype from the industry 9 months before it was ever released (Blair Witch Project anyone?).
but from what I know it's all propriety apple stuff
Then you don't know anything. No offense.
DDR RAM, IDE HDD (on a *gasp* ATA bus), AGP Video-cards, PCI expansion slots, USB, IEEE 1493 (Firewire, iLink), ZIF processors.... in every powermac sold today (and has been sold for a while).
In fact, my Powermac has a Seagate HDD, a nVidia videocard and shikatronics RAM.
I thought that this kind ignorance had disappeared, but I guess not.
It is one step beyond this. The "breakthrough" part of Rendezvous is not actual file sharing, but discovery.
While not a complete Mac innovation (Zeroconfig) the way Apple will be including this tech will be very different then we are currently used to.
Lets continue with the original poster's comment with music sharing.
Right now you open Network Neighborhood, look at people's shares, open each one, look for any music you think you'll like to listen to and then open your favorite mp3 app and open the file and enjoy your tunes.
With rendezvous enabled applications, you connect to the network and open your mp3 application. The files are all already connected and ready to be played.
Sure the end result is the same, but it is the steps to get to that results that are so news-worthy.
Actually these numbers are pretty low since a couple hours ago I shut down my system to disconnect an ancient SCSI burner and replace it with a FireWire one.
Well, I'm at work right now, so I only have access to a G4 running Mac OS X with a gig of RAM, but I am pretty sure it works the same way on Windows (I'll see when I get home)
Top gives me this: VM: 1.83G + 64.0M 12626(0) pageins, 2658(0) pageouts
So throughout the day I have had 12626 writes to the HDD, but only 2658 from that HDD (mind you I've been working on some pretty large PSD files, hence some of this swapping). One average use on my dual G4 at home I have a large number of writes but very few (sometimes 0) reads. I believe every modern OS works like this.
So there is nothing wrong with your system, you will always have swap writes to it. But just to be certain you should run out and grab some more RAM anyways. =)
Actually, your right, but the way I understand it is that it won't need to read off of your HDD if you have enough RAM. That's where the performance hit really comes in.
Video games generally get loaded into RAM. When you're playing a game and you hear a lot of HD trashing (aka swapping), it means that you are in desperate need of more RAM, not a faster HDD.
The only think for games that a faster HDD will do is slightly improve load times and for that extra money it just isn't worth it yet.
The fanboys just want to be cutting edge for the sake of being cutting edge.
Your friendly DSL or cable broadband provider could implement this technique to enforce their single-machine license clause.
There are still providers that limit you to only one computer per connection? Wow. I guess the high competition in my area (GTA) has allowed the customers a little bit more freedom. In fact, my provider will give minor tech support for most routers and hubs.
Never heard of them. How about the industry-standard SPEC benchmarks? Oh, wait, Macs are twice as slow when compared to Pentium IIIs with the same clock speed, IIRC. Apple is so ashamed of the processors they use, you won't see a single SPEC benchmark published by Apple.
I went the specmark.org to look for the proof of your statement, but they actually don't have any motorola processors listed as tested. I would love to find the comparisions that you mentioned. I do remember one instance where Apple actually released SPEC benchmarks where the G4 beat either a P3 or P4 (I can't remember exactly) but there is zero chance on my finding that info now.
Here is a wav [autospeak.com] of the actual sound made by these monsters.
I bought a dual 867 in August. It runs in my basement 24/7. It has never made any sort of noise like that. Wow. I can see why some people who have the noisier systems are pissed off, but understand that only some of the G4's actually make that noise.
Funny, my PSX still works perfectly, yet my PS2 is dead. The clock no longer works, it won't let me save any settings, I can't watch any movies and most games don't work.
Anyways, saying that they made the PS2 backwards compatible so that everyone who has a failed PSX can play their games comes off a lot more negative than positive.
recycle some old video game lines (Metroid, Mario, Zelda)
I can somewhat understand what you're saying, but considering your examples have all been enormous breakthrough games (that sequels basically only have one thing in common with it's previous versions, the hero) it really can't be considered mearly recycling. It's basically on par with calling Final Fantasy VII a recycled version of FF III.
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SCI-FI movies(TTT)and comedies (Greek Wedding)won't get the respect they deserve
Both have gotten more respect then they ever deserved. TTT I enjoyed, but was (IMO) Hollywood fluff compared to FOTR.
My Big Fat Greek Wedding was not at all funny (and I laugh at almost anything) and was labeled as a tiny, independant film that beat the odds and became a huge hit, too bad it was getting hype from the industry 9 months before it was ever released (Blair Witch Project anyone?).
Thank you. This isn't the first time someone here has done this with this particular quote either.
Now where's the fun in that?
granted, I've never been inside of a mac,
Obviously.
but from what I know it's all propriety apple stuff
Then you don't know anything. No offense.
DDR RAM, IDE HDD (on a *gasp* ATA bus), AGP Video-cards, PCI expansion slots, USB, IEEE 1493 (Firewire, iLink), ZIF processors.... in every powermac sold today (and has been sold for a while).
In fact, my Powermac has a Seagate HDD, a nVidia videocard and shikatronics RAM.
I thought that this kind ignorance had disappeared, but I guess not.
It is one step beyond this. The "breakthrough" part of Rendezvous is not actual file sharing, but discovery.
While not a complete Mac innovation (Zeroconfig) the way Apple will be including this tech will be very different then we are currently used to.
Lets continue with the original poster's comment with music sharing.
Right now you open Network Neighborhood, look at people's shares, open each one, look for any music you think you'll like to listen to and then open your favorite mp3 app and open the file and enjoy your tunes.
With rendezvous enabled applications, you connect to the network and open your mp3 application. The files are all already connected and ready to be played.
Sure the end result is the same, but it is the steps to get to that results that are so news-worthy.
Actually these numbers are pretty low since a couple hours ago I shut down my system to disconnect an ancient SCSI burner and replace it with a FireWire one.
Well, I'm at work right now, so I only have access to a G4 running Mac OS X with a gig of RAM, but I am pretty sure it works the same way on Windows (I'll see when I get home)
Top gives me this:
VM: 1.83G + 64.0M 12626(0) pageins, 2658(0) pageouts
So throughout the day I have had 12626 writes to the HDD, but only 2658 from that HDD (mind you I've been working on some pretty large PSD files, hence some of this swapping). One average use on my dual G4 at home I have a large number of writes but very few (sometimes 0) reads. I believe every modern OS works like this.
So there is nothing wrong with your system, you will always have swap writes to it. But just to be certain you should run out and grab some more RAM anyways. =)
Actually, your right, but the way I understand it is that it won't need to read off of your HDD if you have enough RAM. That's where the performance hit really comes in.
Ahhh, thrashing, not trashing..... although I guess it could be.
Except... no.
Video games generally get loaded into RAM. When you're playing a game and you hear a lot of HD trashing (aka swapping), it means that you are in desperate need of more RAM, not a faster HDD.
The only think for games that a faster HDD will do is slightly improve load times and for that extra money it just isn't worth it yet.
The fanboys just want to be cutting edge for the sake of being cutting edge.
Yeah, I have a 40Gb limit combined for upload and download. I have yet to go over that limit.
Your friendly DSL or cable broadband provider could implement this technique to enforce their single-machine license clause.
There are still providers that limit you to only one computer per connection? Wow. I guess the high competition in my area (GTA) has allowed the customers a little bit more freedom. In fact, my provider will give minor tech support for most routers and hubs.
My bad... Thanks for the link anyways. *slaps forehead*
I had to stop myself.
It's called hedging your bets.
... ahh, never mind, I'm going home.
Don't you mean "hedgehogging" your bets? Sega... Sonic... Get it?
Heh, the way I interpretted it was that even if someone is in Mensa, it doesn't make them smart.
What happened to the good ol' days? You know, when the army had technology that took 20 years until it showed up in the public marketplace.
For those not in the army, we can enjoy that same tech today.
Hey thanks. Only one thing though...
You said:
Oh, wait, Macs are twice as slow when compared to Pentium IIIs with the same clock speed
So from the link you gave me I got this:
450 MHz G4 (2MB L2): 21.4/20.4
Well, the slowest pentium chip given on that page was:
650 MHz PIII (440BX): 31.3/22.4
So to find a slower (and equal clockspeed to the G4) I went to SPECbench.org and grabbed my own data:
450 MHz PIII (SE440BX2 Motherboard): 18.7/13.7
Now, I'm not some Mac zealot or anything. But it appears that you sir were mistaken.
Thanks for playing.
A strange one, where my mind resides above my waistline.
Jeez, sucks to be you.
I went the specmark.org to look for the proof of your statement, but they actually don't have any motorola processors listed as tested. I would love to find the comparisions that you mentioned. I do remember one instance where Apple actually released SPEC benchmarks where the G4 beat either a P3 or P4 (I can't remember exactly) but there is zero chance on my finding that info now.
You tell'em buddy.
Here is a wav [autospeak.com] of the actual sound made by these monsters.
I bought a dual 867 in August. It runs in my basement 24/7. It has never made any sort of noise like that. Wow. I can see why some people who have the noisier systems are pissed off, but understand that only some of the G4's actually make that noise.
Funny, my PSX still works perfectly, yet my PS2 is dead. The clock no longer works, it won't let me save any settings, I can't watch any movies and most games don't work.
Anyways, saying that they made the PS2 backwards compatible so that everyone who has a failed PSX can play their games comes off a lot more negative than positive.
I think it was 640k of RAM.
And I don't know what any of these comments have to do with each other.
I never understood the real appeal of the backwards compatibility. If you have any PSX games, chances are you have a PSX.
recycle some old video game lines (Metroid, Mario, Zelda)
I can somewhat understand what you're saying, but considering your examples have all been enormous breakthrough games (that sequels basically only have one thing in common with it's previous versions, the hero) it really can't be considered mearly recycling. It's basically on par with calling Final Fantasy VII a recycled version of FF III.