This whole debate is useless, because it implies that automation wouldn't happen if wages stayed static. We all know most industries in the US are headed towards full automation at some point, regardless of anything labor has to say about it. They're just using this as a scare tactic to get people to stop agitating for higher wages before they can fire them all and replace them with cheap robots.
It's only fucked up because of companies like SUN flooding the patent office, which can't keep up and let's dumb obvious things get through. Your addition patent would fail in any kind of trial and be invalidated, unless you managed to discover some truly novel method and unheard of method of addition, and no "with a computer" doesn't count.
Honestly the "problem" isn't the product. It sells, it returns a profit. The problem is it's no longer growing and returning the value the investors expect. Lots of profitable products in niche markets get killed off simply because there's no growth to entice investors.
Mature products should really be spun off to a private company that can survive on a steady profit without stock investors demanding high returns.
You don't understand modern business. If a product isn't returning 25% ROI every quarter, it's not growing so it's a failure.
Does it make a modest profit? Doesn't matter, it isn't sexy.
Is it a niche item in a small market with predictable profit margins year after year? Shut it down, the market won't invest in it because it's not growing.
There are a lot of companies, and a lot of products, that would be better served by being removed from the expectations of the stock market once they reach maturity.
Should I be OUTRAGED when gay-themed films don't cater to me? Should I demand equal hetero time?
If you go to a party and half the attendees are the American Family Council, and the party has gay dancers, would you be surprised that they would be offended? Because reasonable adults who have half a brain pick entertainment that balances with all their guests.
Umm yeah, try competing against Apple, without being another multinational corporation as well. Between the lawyers, the patent war chests, the copyrights and every other tool they have, you as an individual have very little chance to compete against a mature corporation.
I cannot do ANYTHING if a government is bahving is ways I do not like; regulatory agencies are a self-perpetuating system that exists only to grow and consume.
There's these things called elections? Maybe you've heard of them?
How do you think society will work once the "small government" crew have demolished all the government? Corporations filling the void they create is their end game.
The US doesn't start fights. It imposes itself into fights it has no reason being involved in. Totally different.
Regarding Japan though, I doubt the Japanese are fearful of the US attacking them anytime soon. It's more that they're worried, rightfully, that if China were to invade them the US may or may not help defend them depending on the politics of the situation. Also the Chinese have been seizing any rock poking it's head above water in the South China Sea to claim territorial rights on, and there's quite a few disputed rocks that China & Japan both claim ownership of.
But a person who made a case for access to foreign workers was Mark O'Neill, the CTO of Jackthreads, an online retailer. He argued that there is a need for more skilled workers. Competition is so fierce for developers "that my developers' starting salaries have risen by 50% in the last eight years," said O'Neill, and "senior positions command compensation that meets or exceeds even that of United States Senators."
So... scarcity equals higher price which is bad for business, except when it's business taking advantage of that scarcity. Would Mr. O'Neill complain to congress that we should allow foreign companies to build more Disney knockoffs, because Disney makes more money than some countries? I doubt it.
Her complaint amounted to an admission that she couldn't find a job which would support her lifestyle choices.
Lifestyle choices like eating regularly, living inside shelter with running water and electricity... how dare she think she's entitled to such things from a days wage!
The problem is she wants to live in THE most expensive place in the US.
No the problem is that her former EMPLOYER wants her to work in the most expensive city in the US, and gives no fucks about how she makes that happen on what they want to pay.
You assume educated archaeologists will be the ones digging them up. It's just as likely to be 1800's era adventurers/tomb raiders digging up anything shiny to show off and making wild ass assumptions to attract rich patrons.
You seem incapable of understanding that although your job would "pay" you less, since you're ALSO getting the UBI, you'd make more than the UBI. It's really pretty simple, so I have to think you're deliberately trolling the issue.
I admit I don't have every answer for every dollar, but there are a lot of untapped/undertapped revenue streams in the US too. It's worth the public discussion.
"Employers could hire you for tips and no actual salary" So it would make things even worse than they are now? No, absolutely not, this is some bizarro pipe dream that would never actually work.
Your vision is pretty narrow there. If you're already being paid X amount by the government, then how is it "worse" for an employer to pay only tips for something like wait staff? The employee is making a base wage regardless of what they do. "Work" becomes a much more negotiable thing because it's shifted from "necessary for survival" to "something in addition that I enjoy doing".
You're also overlooking the many jobs and restaurants already that have part time employees DELIBERATELY on public assistance, so they can have them on call. They also routinely already underpay or outright steal wages from their employees.
People always point to someone else and say "they don't work" or "they're wasting their money".. it's usually never that simple. Our system of employment is very hit or miss, and isn't really capable of even determining what jobs a person would be good at or find interesting.
Fun experiment, ask a person if they are busy that day and offer them some money to help you instead of assuming they should for free, see how fast they come over. Your "lazy person" may have just figured out that busting their ass for nothing isn't the best thing they can do with their time.
First off, all social benefits would be re-evaluated and possibly combined into your UBI. Unemployment, food stamps, welfare, and others. Their supporting bureaucracies would be eliminated as well as we'd only need one much smaller organization to pay out the UBI. There would be some shifting of taxes but the UBI would be non-taxable income.
Second, the UBI is only seen as being about $18000-20000 dollars. It's enough that you don't 'have' to work or panic if you lose your job, it's not Who Wants to be a Millionaire.
Third, the minimum wage would be eliminated or vastly reduced. Employers could hire you for tips and no actual salary, part time and get employees who actually want to be there rather than employees grudgingly working to survive. You would have a lot more room to negotiate between employee and employer for salary.
If you're already employed, your employer would likely reduce your wage the total amount of the UBI however you'd still be making the same amount of money as before. Taxes would be on anything over the UBI.
As for inflation.. well, how much does long term unemployment effect inflation? How much does raising minimum wage to reflect cost of living effect inflation?
Why would it effect home prices/rents/leases/etc? Other than more people who can afford to pay rent? That actually may raise rents, as more people are able to seek housing, but then it'd spur construction which would spur hiring, which helps the economy.
Yeah, it's not our job to judge this crap. That's why you report it to HR, like your company guideline's probably state. Then they decide what happens next. If, however, you were in the mood to do someone a favor and not get them into serious trouble, delete the shit and tell them to keep it at home don't just ignore that it's there.
My comment was that if you're ignoring the existence of porn and they do turn up something like child porn, then yeah expect to get into trouble too. If you've reported it to HR though you should be clear.
To me there is a slight difference in porn that is legal and childporn that is not legal.
If I overhear on a company phone someone booking a weekend trip for him and his wife is also slightely different then hearing them ordering a hitman to kill his wife.
Nice dragging childporn into it. It is basically: If nothing illegal is done, let it go. If something illegal is done, take the appropriate action, depending on what that illegal action is.
This has NOTHING to do with IT, computers or Internet. The folder could be a printout in his briefcase that falls out in the elevator. Hustler? No problem. 7 year old lolita's? Problem.
To me what you could report is personal usage on a company PC, but that should be regardless of the amount of nipples. If you see a folder of his wedding, you must do the same.
Hey, are you a lawyer? Do you work for HR? Because your opinion of what is or isn't permissible at work is meaningless next to theirs. Ask HR how they feel about you ignoring porn on work PC's and see how they feel about it. Ask legal the ramifications to you personally for ignoring porn on a work PC and whether or not you could be dragged into the lawsuit because you ignored it. Yeah, even if it's a Hustler that fell out of someone's briefcase. Any company that doesn't already have a clear HR policy regarding porn in the workplace is just asking to be sued.
You're a goddamn sysadmin. Go in, fix, leave. You don't read their email. You don't copy off dick pics or whatever. You go to the bar and drink the memory out of your head, like a professional.
Which is you telling other IT professionals to just ignore porn on the work PCs. Sure if it's not a work PC that's fine, whatever. This whole thread however is talking about work PCs.
The reason I brought up child porn is because if someone has a bunch of visible porn, and you let that go and someone else reports it, investigates and they find something SUCH AS child porn also on there, then it's your ass on the line too because you let it go.
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This whole debate is useless, because it implies that automation wouldn't happen if wages stayed static. We all know most industries in the US are headed towards full automation at some point, regardless of anything labor has to say about it. They're just using this as a scare tactic to get people to stop agitating for higher wages before they can fire them all and replace them with cheap robots.
It's only fucked up because of companies like SUN flooding the patent office, which can't keep up and let's dumb obvious things get through. Your addition patent would fail in any kind of trial and be invalidated, unless you managed to discover some truly novel method and unheard of method of addition, and no "with a computer" doesn't count.
Honestly the "problem" isn't the product. It sells, it returns a profit. The problem is it's no longer growing and returning the value the investors expect. Lots of profitable products in niche markets get killed off simply because there's no growth to entice investors.
Mature products should really be spun off to a private company that can survive on a steady profit without stock investors demanding high returns.
You don't understand modern business. If a product isn't returning 25% ROI every quarter, it's not growing so it's a failure.
Does it make a modest profit? Doesn't matter, it isn't sexy.
Is it a niche item in a small market with predictable profit margins year after year? Shut it down, the market won't invest in it because it's not growing.
There are a lot of companies, and a lot of products, that would be better served by being removed from the expectations of the stock market once they reach maturity.
You're assuming that everyone in that 'majority' wanted that particular brand of 'entertainment'.
Should I be OUTRAGED when gay-themed films don't cater to me? Should I demand equal hetero time?
If you go to a party and half the attendees are the American Family Council, and the party has gay dancers, would you be surprised that they would be offended? Because reasonable adults who have half a brain pick entertainment that balances with all their guests.
You can in fact compete against Apple software wise -do you think a small team could do better than iTunes? I do.
Uhuh, try to replace Apple's app store, see how that works out for you.
You can even compete against them in hardware simply by building something they will not, or is too much of a niche.
Building something Apple doesn't already build isn't competing with Apple, now is it. It's like claiming that Ford and Comcast are competitors.
I can compete against a company.
Umm yeah, try competing against Apple, without being another multinational corporation as well. Between the lawyers, the patent war chests, the copyrights and every other tool they have, you as an individual have very little chance to compete against a mature corporation.
I cannot do ANYTHING if a government is bahving is ways I do not like; regulatory agencies are a self-perpetuating system that exists only to grow and consume.
There's these things called elections? Maybe you've heard of them?
How do you think society will work once the "small government" crew have demolished all the government? Corporations filling the void they create is their end game.
The US doesn't start fights. It imposes itself into fights it has no reason being involved in. Totally different.
Regarding Japan though, I doubt the Japanese are fearful of the US attacking them anytime soon. It's more that they're worried, rightfully, that if China were to invade them the US may or may not help defend them depending on the politics of the situation. Also the Chinese have been seizing any rock poking it's head above water in the South China Sea to claim territorial rights on, and there's quite a few disputed rocks that China & Japan both claim ownership of.
Do you wear an onion on your belt?
One, how come the union haters are silent when it comes to the police union?
Because they need the police to protect them from the pissed off Union members they've been antagonizing.
But a person who made a case for access to foreign workers was Mark O'Neill, the CTO of Jackthreads, an online retailer. He argued that there is a need for more skilled workers. Competition is so fierce for developers "that my developers' starting salaries have risen by 50% in the last eight years," said O'Neill, and "senior positions command compensation that meets or exceeds even that of United States Senators."
So... scarcity equals higher price which is bad for business, except when it's business taking advantage of that scarcity. Would Mr. O'Neill complain to congress that we should allow foreign companies to build more Disney knockoffs, because Disney makes more money than some countries? I doubt it.
Her complaint amounted to an admission that she couldn't find a job which would support her lifestyle choices.
Lifestyle choices like eating regularly, living inside shelter with running water and electricity... how dare she think she's entitled to such things from a days wage!
The problem is she wants to live in THE most expensive place in the US.
No the problem is that her former EMPLOYER wants her to work in the most expensive city in the US, and gives no fucks about how she makes that happen on what they want to pay.
You assume educated archaeologists will be the ones digging them up. It's just as likely to be 1800's era adventurers/tomb raiders digging up anything shiny to show off and making wild ass assumptions to attract rich patrons.
You seem incapable of understanding that although your job would "pay" you less, since you're ALSO getting the UBI, you'd make more than the UBI. It's really pretty simple, so I have to think you're deliberately trolling the issue.
I admit I don't have every answer for every dollar, but there are a lot of untapped/undertapped revenue streams in the US too. It's worth the public discussion.
"Employers could hire you for tips and no actual salary" So it would make things even worse than they are now? No, absolutely not, this is some bizarro pipe dream that would never actually work.
Your vision is pretty narrow there. If you're already being paid X amount by the government, then how is it "worse" for an employer to pay only tips for something like wait staff? The employee is making a base wage regardless of what they do. "Work" becomes a much more negotiable thing because it's shifted from "necessary for survival" to "something in addition that I enjoy doing".
You're also overlooking the many jobs and restaurants already that have part time employees DELIBERATELY on public assistance, so they can have them on call. They also routinely already underpay or outright steal wages from their employees.
People always point to someone else and say "they don't work" or "they're wasting their money".. it's usually never that simple. Our system of employment is very hit or miss, and isn't really capable of even determining what jobs a person would be good at or find interesting.
Fun experiment, ask a person if they are busy that day and offer them some money to help you instead of assuming they should for free, see how fast they come over. Your "lazy person" may have just figured out that busting their ass for nothing isn't the best thing they can do with their time.
First off, all social benefits would be re-evaluated and possibly combined into your UBI. Unemployment, food stamps, welfare, and others. Their supporting bureaucracies would be eliminated as well as we'd only need one much smaller organization to pay out the UBI. There would be some shifting of taxes but the UBI would be non-taxable income.
Second, the UBI is only seen as being about $18000-20000 dollars. It's enough that you don't 'have' to work or panic if you lose your job, it's not Who Wants to be a Millionaire.
Third, the minimum wage would be eliminated or vastly reduced. Employers could hire you for tips and no actual salary, part time and get employees who actually want to be there rather than employees grudgingly working to survive. You would have a lot more room to negotiate between employee and employer for salary.
If you're already employed, your employer would likely reduce your wage the total amount of the UBI however you'd still be making the same amount of money as before. Taxes would be on anything over the UBI.
As for inflation.. well, how much does long term unemployment effect inflation? How much does raising minimum wage to reflect cost of living effect inflation?
Why would it effect home prices/rents/leases/etc? Other than more people who can afford to pay rent? That actually may raise rents, as more people are able to seek housing, but then it'd spur construction which would spur hiring, which helps the economy.
Yeah, it's not our job to judge this crap. That's why you report it to HR, like your company guideline's probably state. Then they decide what happens next. If, however, you were in the mood to do someone a favor and not get them into serious trouble, delete the shit and tell them to keep it at home don't just ignore that it's there.
My comment was that if you're ignoring the existence of porn and they do turn up something like child porn, then yeah expect to get into trouble too. If you've reported it to HR though you should be clear.
To me there is a slight difference in porn that is legal and childporn that is not legal.
If I overhear on a company phone someone booking a weekend trip for him and his wife is also slightely different then hearing them ordering a hitman to kill his wife.
Nice dragging childporn into it. It is basically: If nothing illegal is done, let it go. If something illegal is done, take the appropriate action, depending on what that illegal action is.
This has NOTHING to do with IT, computers or Internet. The folder could be a printout in his briefcase that falls out in the elevator. Hustler? No problem. 7 year old lolita's? Problem.
To me what you could report is personal usage on a company PC, but that should be regardless of the amount of nipples. If you see a folder of his wedding, you must do the same.
Hey, are you a lawyer? Do you work for HR? Because your opinion of what is or isn't permissible at work is meaningless next to theirs. Ask HR how they feel about you ignoring porn on work PC's and see how they feel about it. Ask legal the ramifications to you personally for ignoring porn on a work PC and whether or not you could be dragged into the lawsuit because you ignored it. Yeah, even if it's a Hustler that fell out of someone's briefcase. Any company that doesn't already have a clear HR policy regarding porn in the workplace is just asking to be sued.
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You're a goddamn sysadmin. Go in, fix, leave. You don't read their email. You don't copy off dick pics or whatever. You go to the bar and drink the memory out of your head, like a professional.
Which is you telling other IT professionals to just ignore porn on the work PCs. Sure if it's not a work PC that's fine, whatever. This whole thread however is talking about work PCs.
The reason I brought up child porn is because if someone has a bunch of visible porn, and you let that go and someone else reports it, investigates and they find something SUCH AS child porn also on there, then it's your ass on the line too because you let it go.