...and then get voted out of office less than four years later in the biggest landslide since Atlantis.
Causing a depression tends to do that.
You want to get rid of oil? Come up with a way to get rid of it without reducing economic output of quality of life at all. Better yet, come up with a way that improves both... Until then, think of how many old people and poor people your $8/gallon tax on fuel oil would kill, and how much your food would cost when the trucking costs quadrupled. Energy taxes are a tax on the poor.
I think it is the fact that anbody who just dropped $150 to $300 on a DS or PSP (respectively) would like to know if they're system is going to be the leader.
I thought how it worked was you trash talked the one you didn't have, thus increasing the coolness of your particular choice. Clearly the one owned by the most foul mouthed of 12 year olds (or foul mouthed people who read at a 7th grade level) is the best.
I want to see a chip that integrates a heat spreader directly into the package, so you have some more space to interface for a bigger, more bad-ass heatsink or even heat pipe.
Let me guess... You haven't bought a new CPU in over two years...
Both the Athlon 64s and Pentium 4 processors do exactly that, and have since those particular product lines were introduced.
When I was working on the ia64 port of linux back in 2000, I bricked a prototype 'Lion' quad ia64 server with a small, seemingly harmless EFI application that happened to hit a bug in the (still beta) EFI firmware for the machine. It was a $40,000 fix. Oops.
"Drivers must be signed for devices that stream protected content."
That's on all Vista systems, not just 'x64' systems (What the hell is 'x64'?). That means users won't get the benefit of frequent driver releases like they have now under XP, and won't be able to do what they like with their media. Also that people who pirate content will have hacked kernel binaries that bypass the signature check.
Hardly a big deal. Nobody is going to run Vista unless they want to shell out for an HDCP compatable monitor anyway. XP has only recently passed 2000 in running installations, so I figure we've got a good seven years before we have to deal with this crap.
Clearly we should take the speculation of this gamer rag over the comments from industry executives he quotes.
Wait, why should we do that? I think this guy is full of shit.
It's very unlikely that an $1800 Blu-Ray player would stand up to a $500 (estimate) PS3
It's very unlikely that the kind of people who would by a $1800 video player would find a gaming console an acceptable substitute. And talk about speculative BS... $500 estimate for the PS3? Yeah, right. At the very least it's pure speculation.
The Cell chip manufacturing ramp up has not yet begun
Says who?
If the company expects to release in the US before Thanksgiving then it has to have a working model at E3
Nintendo could show a slideshow at E3 if they wanted. They've done it before.
It would greatly benefit Nintendo to release before the PlayStation 3 in the US, but we really don't see that happening unless Sony has some sort of manufacturing mishap with the Cell chip.
Wait, first you say that it's unlikely we'll be seeing a signifigant number of PS3s this year because Sony hasn't started manufactuing yet, and now you're saying it's unlikely Nintendo will beat the PS3 to market? I don't know which one of those statements is wrong, but they certainly can't both be right at the same time.
Does this guy have an editor?
However, while we do expect Nintendo to ship more Revolution consoles within the launch window than the number of Xbox 360 consoles Microsoft was able to ship, we don't expect Nintendo's console to outperform the Xbox 360 launch.
Ok, here's the last straw. The VirtualBoy outsold the 360 at launch. It's not hard to have a better launch than a console that only ships 500,000 units. If Microsoft had produced enough 360s, then Nintendo would have had some competition in the "best launch" category, but the only way the Revolution isn't having a better launch than the 360 is if Nintendo throws in the towel and exists the marketplace after only making 400,000 consoles. Fat chance. It's not that hard to compete with the launch of a console you couldn't buy at launch.
Another object approaching the mass of the sun would force the orbit to be more elliptical, which would make this planet unsuitable for life as we know it. About half of the known stars are too close to each other for any of those to have a planet that could keep its temperature in the very narrow range wherein water exists in its liquid form.
Mammals, perhaps, couldn't evolve in such a scenario, but plenty of life on earth deals with changes from periods of plenty of liquid water to no liquid water (either because it's ice, or because it's all dried up) on a regular basis. Many species even rely on the transitions to trigger the changes between different phases of their life cycle. There is no reason to believe that if the periods were longer, or the freezes deeper that much of the life on earth as we know it couldn't survive in the conditions you have described. There would just have to be a portion of each orbit where there was liquid water, which doesn't seem too far fetched.
This was just another place where Bush could try to increase the power of the presidency.
Bush is just the first one to get caught. You don't think that the NSA monitored domestic communications beyond their authority under Clinton, Bush Sr., or Reagan? This has been going on for decades and nobody has noticed until now.
fingerprint locks are stupid. they are nothing more than an unchangable password that you leave on everything you touch.
Like I said, they're nothing more than a convienience. Any implementation that doesn't have a PIN along with the fingerprint is completely broken anyway. You should never have a system where just the fingerprint gives you access.
As it is, they're haven't been any good uses...yet.
Lately some online videos have been encoded with an embededed player and posted as flash animations. I'm a big fan of this, as the quality is passable, and the video is cross platform with no hacks required. There are also some fun flash games. Most of the time though, I just let flashblock do it's thing and the plugin never even gets loaded.
There are open source players out there, but I haven't found one where compatability was 100%...
Well, six months before the Xbox 360 launch, the 360 was a PowerMac G5 under a table with non-playable demos and a plastic mockup, so it's not out of the realm of possibility. August is more likely, but it still doesn't guarantee a Microsoft victory. It only gives them a little more of a chance.
That's a rediculous assumption. Most business organizations aren't evil. Most companies actually value their employees. Not only that, but if this guy is having the problem, there are probably others having it too. Short of a drop of blood, nobody has come up with a biometric system that is actually completely reliable yet, or even close to it depending on what you consider 'close'.
My wife essentially has no fingerprints due to having had some severe eczema in the past. Her fingertips are fairly smooth with the occational crack or line, but those move week to week. At her last job they had fingerprint locks to keep the animal rights protesters out (when you make new drugs the FDA makes you test on animals... No way around it, but try telling that to the protesters.) and they never worked for her. When she got to work she had to call security to let her in and do an ID check every single day.
Fingerprint locks should be used as a highish security convienience. There should always be a backup system too. Even if that backup system is a big thug checking photo IDs.
You'd think these things would have been more thought out in the past
You make it sound like they planned to have things break or explode. A lot of the stuff that's considered "junk" up there is there by accident, not because we didn't think it through.
Are these 'rogue' things out there moving faster than a bullet headed towards the delecate skin of a ship?
Not really that big a deal as long as it's moving in the same direction that you are, is it? But, yes, there are.
PS3 will blow the XBox 360 away technically bit will be way too expensive for most gamers to crush the 360.
What happens to your prediction when the PS3 costs the same amount as the 360?
I'll probably buy all three, but it seems like a long shot to me that Microsoft will pull ahead of Sony if the PS3 manages to hit store shelves before June. The only one I'm really excited for at this point is the Revolution though.
Don't you mean INDIRECT costs? A building or toilet paper aren't direct costs - the expense of the assembly line, or a payment to a third party manufacturer is. INdirect costs are called overhead, cause those costs are shared among ALL your products.
Actually, you had mentioned marketing as overhead. Marketing a product is not a cost that is shared among all your products. That was your definition of indirect that I was questioning, not buildings, or toilet paper. "Of course, Apple does a lot of marketing - and, guess what? THAT'S an indirect overhead expense, too!
I'm sorry that you disagree, but you just seem to want to disagree, no matter how much I explain myself.
How do you think your comments look from my perspective? Look back at my response to your original comment, and your follow up and tell me who was disagreeing for the sake of it... I don't even think I was disagreeing with you at all in my initial post.
The overhead is NEVER low enough its silly to bring it up.
If you start including all sorts of direct costs as "overhead" then I suppose your right.
I think you're just disagreeing just to disagree.
If you say so. Really, it seems to me that you're disagreeing with me simply because you have decided to define certain terms differently than how the rest of the financial world defines them.
So thanks for validating my sig.
I browse with sigs off. It saves me from the associated prejudice when I respond.
It's called double entry bookkeeping. The asset is on one side, the expense on the other...
Yeah, thanks.
Since the expense was recorded years and years ago, and has been amortized over previous decades of busniess, how much do you propose they apply against their profits for this year? Yes, this is a trick question, because the answer is already known. $0.
Of course Apple has other costs besides manufacturing. Their building was a terrible example though. Other than R&D and manufacturing, most of their costs are in the form of marketing. If they're any good at business, their overhead should be really low to the point that it's silly to bring it up.
You can pretty much confirm, but only after the fact when both companies release their financials... We wouldn't need analysts if we were all patient enough to wait for the real numbers though.
but you can bet they own the Campus where all that is designed. THAT is a capital expense that is charged off as overhead
Oh, also, they *do* own said campus. Outright. No debt on it whatsoever. And given it's location, it's an appreciable asset. It probably increases in value year on year more than it costs to heat the place. It's an asset, not an expense.
You sound as if you don't like these analysts work
What tipped you off? I don't like the work of most analysts that end up published in the "mainstream" press. There are good analysts out there, but typically you only see their work if you pay the fee. Plus, sane analysis doesn't make good press. Would you have read this article if it said Apple was spending $749 to make an iMac? Would the article even have been published if they couldn't say that Apple was going to have uncharactaristically low margins for this new product line?
I also think their analysis of Apple's cost is wrong, in the main, as I said, due to the failure of their analysis to include overhead.
That's actually the one thing they did right. When I want to know how much value is in a product, or how much the parts that went into it cost, I don't want the figures tainted with the efficencies or inefficiencies of Apple's administrative or R&D processes.
As an aside, I would bet money that intel funded all the board design R&D for Apple's new machines. I've worked on projects using intel chips for much smaller companies than Apple, were intel picked up the board design tab for some fairly unusual layouts simply so we would use intel chips instead of Motorola chips. Those were boards with only 100,000 unit sales targets. Imagine what Apple, who will be selling over a million intel chips per quarter, got. I bet that the only R&D costs for Apple on this current generation of machines was limited to design (Case style, etc) work, and most of that was probably re-used from the old machines.
And again, it's not just manufacturing costs that are included in the cost of a product.
Right, but in a production cost analysis, there damned well better be nothing but the manufacturing costs.
The problem is people who used the stock FSF text in their app about using version 2 or, at your choice, any newer version... If you own patents it isn't inconcievable that somebody could release a tweaked version of your GPLed app that you wouldn't be allowed to distribute.
Luckily for me, all my GPLed stuff says "version 2 only".
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...and then get voted out of office less than four years later in the biggest landslide since Atlantis.
Causing a depression tends to do that.
You want to get rid of oil? Come up with a way to get rid of it without reducing economic output of quality of life at all. Better yet, come up with a way that improves both... Until then, think of how many old people and poor people your $8/gallon tax on fuel oil would kill, and how much your food would cost when the trucking costs quadrupled. Energy taxes are a tax on the poor.
Anyone believe he had only 60 thousand in the bank?
I'm actually impressed he had $60K sitting around. Most of these guys blow every penny on stupid shit.
I think it is the fact that anbody who just dropped $150 to $300 on a DS or PSP (respectively) would like to know if they're system is going to be the leader.
I thought how it worked was you trash talked the one you didn't have, thus increasing the coolness of your particular choice. Clearly the one owned by the most foul mouthed of 12 year olds (or foul mouthed people who read at a 7th grade level) is the best.
I want to see a chip that integrates a heat spreader directly into the package, so you have some more space to interface for a bigger, more bad-ass heatsink or even heat pipe.
Let me guess... You haven't bought a new CPU in over two years...
Both the Athlon 64s and Pentium 4 processors do exactly that, and have since those particular product lines were introduced.
When I was working on the ia64 port of linux back in 2000, I bricked a prototype 'Lion' quad ia64 server with a small, seemingly harmless EFI application that happened to hit a bug in the (still beta) EFI firmware for the machine. It was a $40,000 fix. Oops.
:)
iMacs are small potatos.
Yeah, thanks for answering my rhetorical question.
I asked that because nobody else calls it x64. Microsoft made that up. I know what they meant when they said it, but that doesn't make it right.
This will certainly quiet complaints about Windows' crashing
You're kidding, right?
At least it will mean that we can blame Microsoft for driver crashes now though.
"Drivers must be signed for devices that stream protected content."
That's on all Vista systems, not just 'x64' systems (What the hell is 'x64'?). That means users won't get the benefit of frequent driver releases like they have now under XP, and won't be able to do what they like with their media. Also that people who pirate content will have hacked kernel binaries that bypass the signature check.
Hardly a big deal. Nobody is going to run Vista unless they want to shell out for an HDCP compatable monitor anyway. XP has only recently passed 2000 in running installations, so I figure we've got a good seven years before we have to deal with this crap.
Clearly we should take the speculation of this gamer rag over the comments from industry executives he quotes.
Wait, why should we do that? I think this guy is full of shit.
It's very unlikely that an $1800 Blu-Ray player would stand up to a $500 (estimate) PS3
It's very unlikely that the kind of people who would by a $1800 video player would find a gaming console an acceptable substitute. And talk about speculative BS... $500 estimate for the PS3? Yeah, right. At the very least it's pure speculation.
The Cell chip manufacturing ramp up has not yet begun
Says who?
If the company expects to release in the US before Thanksgiving then it has to have a working model at E3
Nintendo could show a slideshow at E3 if they wanted. They've done it before.
It would greatly benefit Nintendo to release before the PlayStation 3 in the US, but we really don't see that happening unless Sony has some sort of manufacturing mishap with the Cell chip.
Wait, first you say that it's unlikely we'll be seeing a signifigant number of PS3s this year because Sony hasn't started manufactuing yet, and now you're saying it's unlikely Nintendo will beat the PS3 to market? I don't know which one of those statements is wrong, but they certainly can't both be right at the same time.
Does this guy have an editor?
However, while we do expect Nintendo to ship more Revolution consoles within the launch window than the number of Xbox 360 consoles Microsoft was able to ship, we don't expect Nintendo's console to outperform the Xbox 360 launch.
Ok, here's the last straw. The VirtualBoy outsold the 360 at launch. It's not hard to have a better launch than a console that only ships 500,000 units. If Microsoft had produced enough 360s, then Nintendo would have had some competition in the "best launch" category, but the only way the Revolution isn't having a better launch than the 360 is if Nintendo throws in the towel and exists the marketplace after only making 400,000 consoles. Fat chance. It's not that hard to compete with the launch of a console you couldn't buy at launch.
Another object approaching the mass of the sun would force the orbit to be more elliptical, which would make this planet unsuitable for life as we know it. About half of the known stars are too close to each other for any of those to have a planet that could keep its temperature in the very narrow range wherein water exists in its liquid form.
Mammals, perhaps, couldn't evolve in such a scenario, but plenty of life on earth deals with changes from periods of plenty of liquid water to no liquid water (either because it's ice, or because it's all dried up) on a regular basis. Many species even rely on the transitions to trigger the changes between different phases of their life cycle. There is no reason to believe that if the periods were longer, or the freezes deeper that much of the life on earth as we know it couldn't survive in the conditions you have described. There would just have to be a portion of each orbit where there was liquid water, which doesn't seem too far fetched.
This was just another place where Bush could try to increase the power of the presidency.
Bush is just the first one to get caught. You don't think that the NSA monitored domestic communications beyond their authority under Clinton, Bush Sr., or Reagan? This has been going on for decades and nobody has noticed until now.
Doesn't make it right, but still...
fingerprint locks are stupid. they are nothing more than an unchangable password that you leave on everything you touch.
Like I said, they're nothing more than a convienience. Any implementation that doesn't have a PIN along with the fingerprint is completely broken anyway. You should never have a system where just the fingerprint gives you access.
As it is, they're haven't been any good uses...yet.
Lately some online videos have been encoded with an embededed player and posted as flash animations. I'm a big fan of this, as the quality is passable, and the video is cross platform with no hacks required. There are also some fun flash games. Most of the time though, I just let flashblock do it's thing and the plugin never even gets loaded.
There are open source players out there, but I haven't found one where compatability was 100%...
Well, six months before the Xbox 360 launch, the 360 was a PowerMac G5 under a table with non-playable demos and a plastic mockup, so it's not out of the realm of possibility. August is more likely, but it still doesn't guarantee a Microsoft victory. It only gives them a little more of a chance.
That's a rediculous assumption. Most business organizations aren't evil. Most companies actually value their employees. Not only that, but if this guy is having the problem, there are probably others having it too. Short of a drop of blood, nobody has come up with a biometric system that is actually completely reliable yet, or even close to it depending on what you consider 'close'.
My wife essentially has no fingerprints due to having had some severe eczema in the past. Her fingertips are fairly smooth with the occational crack or line, but those move week to week. At her last job they had fingerprint locks to keep the animal rights protesters out (when you make new drugs the FDA makes you test on animals... No way around it, but try telling that to the protesters.) and they never worked for her. When she got to work she had to call security to let her in and do an ID check every single day.
Fingerprint locks should be used as a highish security convienience. There should always be a backup system too. Even if that backup system is a big thug checking photo IDs.
You'd think these things would have been more thought out in the past
You make it sound like they planned to have things break or explode. A lot of the stuff that's considered "junk" up there is there by accident, not because we didn't think it through.
Are these 'rogue' things out there moving faster than a bullet headed towards the delecate skin of a ship?
Not really that big a deal as long as it's moving in the same direction that you are, is it? But, yes, there are.
PS3 will blow the XBox 360 away technically bit will be way too expensive for most gamers to crush the 360.
What happens to your prediction when the PS3 costs the same amount as the 360?
I'll probably buy all three, but it seems like a long shot to me that Microsoft will pull ahead of Sony if the PS3 manages to hit store shelves before June. The only one I'm really excited for at this point is the Revolution though.
Don't you mean INDIRECT costs? A building or toilet paper aren't direct costs - the expense of the assembly line, or a payment to a third party manufacturer is. INdirect costs are called overhead, cause those costs are shared among ALL your products.
Actually, you had mentioned marketing as overhead. Marketing a product is not a cost that is shared among all your products. That was your definition of indirect that I was questioning, not buildings, or toilet paper. "Of course, Apple does a lot of marketing - and, guess what? THAT'S an indirect overhead expense, too!
I'm sorry that you disagree, but you just seem to want to disagree, no matter how much I explain myself.
How do you think your comments look from my perspective? Look back at my response to your original comment, and your follow up and tell me who was disagreeing for the sake of it... I don't even think I was disagreeing with you at all in my initial post.
The overhead is NEVER low enough its silly to bring it up.
If you start including all sorts of direct costs as "overhead" then I suppose your right.
I think you're just disagreeing just to disagree.
If you say so. Really, it seems to me that you're disagreeing with me simply because you have decided to define certain terms differently than how the rest of the financial world defines them.
So thanks for validating my sig.
I browse with sigs off. It saves me from the associated prejudice when I respond.
It's called double entry bookkeeping. The asset is on one side, the expense on the other...
Yeah, thanks.
Since the expense was recorded years and years ago, and has been amortized over previous decades of busniess, how much do you propose they apply against their profits for this year? Yes, this is a trick question, because the answer is already known. $0.
Of course Apple has other costs besides manufacturing. Their building was a terrible example though. Other than R&D and manufacturing, most of their costs are in the form of marketing. If they're any good at business, their overhead should be really low to the point that it's silly to bring it up.
You can pretty much confirm, but only after the fact when both companies release their financials... We wouldn't need analysts if we were all patient enough to wait for the real numbers though.
but you can bet they own the Campus where all that is designed. THAT is a capital expense that is charged off as overhead
Oh, also, they *do* own said campus. Outright. No debt on it whatsoever. And given it's location, it's an appreciable asset. It probably increases in value year on year more than it costs to heat the place. It's an asset, not an expense.
You sound as if you don't like these analysts work
What tipped you off? I don't like the work of most analysts that end up published in the "mainstream" press. There are good analysts out there, but typically you only see their work if you pay the fee. Plus, sane analysis doesn't make good press. Would you have read this article if it said Apple was spending $749 to make an iMac? Would the article even have been published if they couldn't say that Apple was going to have uncharactaristically low margins for this new product line?
I also think their analysis of Apple's cost is wrong, in the main, as I said, due to the failure of their analysis to include overhead.
That's actually the one thing they did right. When I want to know how much value is in a product, or how much the parts that went into it cost, I don't want the figures tainted with the efficencies or inefficiencies of Apple's administrative or R&D processes.
As an aside, I would bet money that intel funded all the board design R&D for Apple's new machines. I've worked on projects using intel chips for much smaller companies than Apple, were intel picked up the board design tab for some fairly unusual layouts simply so we would use intel chips instead of Motorola chips. Those were boards with only 100,000 unit sales targets. Imagine what Apple, who will be selling over a million intel chips per quarter, got. I bet that the only R&D costs for Apple on this current generation of machines was limited to design (Case style, etc) work, and most of that was probably re-used from the old machines.
And again, it's not just manufacturing costs that are included in the cost of a product.
Right, but in a production cost analysis, there damned well better be nothing but the manufacturing costs.
You don't like GPL v3? Don't use it.
The problem is people who used the stock FSF text in their app about using version 2 or, at your choice, any newer version... If you own patents it isn't inconcievable that somebody could release a tweaked version of your GPLed app that you wouldn't be allowed to distribute.
Luckily for me, all my GPLed stuff says "version 2 only".