"If the plane, made out of titanium, steel and aluminum was vaporized by jet fuel then how were they able to identify 174 passengers through DNA?"
Because aircraft, excepting engine core parts and landing gear struts, are tender, thin, and soft. Note how much structure disappears when they burn on the ground. Turbine wheels (or their fragments, since they spin fast enough to come apart when they hit) are tough, but skin and interior parts are built for lightness.
Humans, OTOH, are basically bags of liquid and take a fair amount of heat to cremate.
"The girls here love Americans, and I spent some time with a pretty girl 18 years younger than myself earlier this week, and will have coffee with a pretty girl 14 years younger than myself tomorrow."
Women from many countries "love" Americans for lots of reasons, just ask Hans Reiser.
As wise old Sgt Cody told me in the 1980s (referring to another place full of LBFMs):
"The P.I. is like Disneyland. Enjoy the rides, but don't try to bring them home."
Public facilities in some areas will be ruined by the hopeless loser (it's no troll to call them what they are!) segment of the public, such as bums, drunks, and junkies. That makes providing those facilities a waste.
"Wow. The parent poster may be actually insane. Not just nutty in an eccentric, slashdot, sense, but someone with a full-on schizophrenic break with reality."
Never attribute to schizophrenia what may be adequately explained by the (common) combination of ignorance, stupidity, and passionate emotion driven by the above.
Our public is simple-minded and moralistic (at least in terms of who they'll vote for) so they get the "leaders" most of them deserve. The American public, by and large are simple beasts and they will only elect people who pander to them.
"On the other side we have Apple. They produce gadgets and computers, that do have quality, but also a lot of brand hype. And are very expensive."
Poor people don't buy Apple gear, and targeting upscale markets can be a good way to survive a recession. Apple could shave its profit margin and still target upscale customers. There are plenty of things that can be cut other than computer and hardware purchases, such as all other entertainment.
"That's all true, but when you keep shouting at the top of your lungs about those moral standards, you're a hypocrite "
Hypocrisy is necessary for propaganda, and never think that propaganda isn't necessary in contests between large groups of people. Even though many people will point out hypocrisy, it still gives the necessary element of "implausible deniability" so people who have bought in anyway have something to invoke.
"Yeah, US foreign policy has been pretty much spineless when dealing with Russia since Reagans day... somehow since then we aren't allowed to piss them off."
We didn't risk much for the trivial players back then either. Some game pieces are expendable, while others have more value.
"which lead to other nations breaking those same rules,.."
Our Cold War opponents broke them at will in the recent past anyway, because it served them well and they could.
"Rules" are window dressing to amuse the earnest and naive people who believe in them. Power is what matters, because to the extent one has power one can make up and enforce rules.
"Hey i've seen army bases, I'll take my pampered air force thank you very much."
The USAF was still pampered back in the Cold War through the Desert Storm, proving that being comfortable does not require a PC atmosphere.
It isn't the decent living conditions (after all, most of ones career is spent in peacetime, why should dorms and facilities suck?) but the corporate emulation of late that is IMO the real problem.
"Well Richard, it seems my fellow Texans have been slacking! Let me just take a few minutes to tell you about Jesus, and the wonderful sacrifice he made for you..."
"Jesus" is a copyrighted work of the Republican Party. Please consult their lawyers before going any further.:)
I'm an atheist in a very Red state (SC) and not only don't they try to convert me, there is a healthy attitude towards firearms, blackpowder, and even personal ownership of cannon!
There is a difference between familiarity with conditions on the ground, which includes understanding the necessity for appropriate use of violence and the consequences of MIS-applied violence, and a more abstract and media-conditioned idea of outcomes.
It's not a matter of being "eager" to kill, it's a matter of having experience-based perspective on which to build strength and decisiveness. We need people who understand how to use violence appropriately and won't lose much sleep over it except when they screw up. It's perfectly OK to kill certain folks (consult your particular social construct for guidance), and as long as violence is the ultimate dispute resolution tool we need professional killers who are competent,reliable, well-behaved, and not damaged by taking human life.
Good thing our Founders didn't snivel about sending musket balls and grape shot into people we disagreed with.
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"If the plane, made out of titanium, steel and aluminum was vaporized by jet fuel then how were they able to identify 174 passengers through DNA?"
Because aircraft, excepting engine core parts and landing gear struts, are tender, thin, and soft. Note how much structure disappears when they burn on the ground. Turbine wheels (or their fragments, since they spin fast enough to come apart when they hit) are tough, but skin and interior parts are built for lightness.
Humans, OTOH, are basically bags of liquid and take a fair amount of heat to cremate.
"Everyone knows the CIA hired the mob and anti-Communist Cuban militants to bring it down."
No, the CIA hired Gordon Liddy to protect it.
Less work and no chance the structure would survive.
"The girls here love Americans, and I spent some time with a pretty girl 18 years younger than myself earlier this week, and will have coffee with a pretty girl 14 years younger than myself tomorrow."
Women from many countries "love" Americans for lots of reasons, just ask Hans Reiser.
As wise old Sgt Cody told me in the 1980s (referring to another place full of LBFMs):
"The P.I. is like Disneyland. Enjoy the rides, but don't try to bring them home."
"sure they can put a man into space, the problem has always been to get them back down safely once up there. When will they be able to do that?"
Wrong mission profile. All they'll need to do is arrive on-station, shout "God is great", and then do their best Challenger imitation.
"Invite Hells Angels they have a long track record of providing security"
They dealt with the brother who pulled a pistol quite effectively. The lesson I took from this is "don't throw down on patch holders".
"Both are for BIG Government. (D) wants to "do it for the children", while the (R) are to protect us from evil doers."
That explains bipartisan support for "protecting the children from evildoers".
"It's also a good example for companies thinking about getting in bed with Microsoft, which financed this whole charade."
Any company might be willing to sell out and turn into a throwaway "land mine" for the right price.
Companies are built by people, but they aren't people and if their owners decide to consider them expendable, they are precisely that.
Public facilities in some areas will be ruined by the hopeless loser (it's no troll to call them what they are!) segment of the public, such as bums, drunks, and junkies. That makes providing those facilities a waste.
"That's crazy."
No. There are plenty of large farms bigger than that.
"Problem is a misinformed and fearful public and politicians."
LIAR! Three Mile Chernobyl will kill us all!
Whew. Lost it for a moment. I'm all better now.
"Wow. The parent poster may be actually insane. Not just nutty in an eccentric, slashdot, sense, but someone with a full-on schizophrenic break with reality."
Never attribute to schizophrenia what may be adequately explained by the (common) combination of ignorance, stupidity, and passionate emotion driven by the above.
"Scourge McDuck"???
That's even hotter than Donald in Nazi garb:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2I7rlmefA8
If it fits over your DVD player you are more man than I.
"hundreds of feet of water hoses (that leak), "
I defy you to find a car with hundreds of feet, or even 50 feet, of water hose. :)
Our public is simple-minded and moralistic (at least in terms of who they'll vote for) so they get the "leaders" most of them deserve. The American public, by and large are simple beasts and they will only elect people who pander to them.
"Porn has been made, now my DVD player is ruined... RUINED!!"
I Saran Wrap mine. No problems so far...
"On the other side we have Apple. They produce gadgets and computers, that do have quality, but also a lot of brand hype. And are very expensive."
Poor people don't buy Apple gear, and targeting upscale markets can be a good way to survive a recession. Apple could shave its profit margin and still target upscale customers. There are plenty of things that can be cut other than computer and hardware purchases, such as all other entertainment.
"Phn'glui M'gl wna'f, Cthulhu R'lyeh Wgha Nagl Ftaghn"
That's easy for YOU to say!
"That's all true, but when you keep shouting at the top of your lungs about those moral standards, you're a hypocrite "
Hypocrisy is necessary for propaganda, and never think that propaganda isn't necessary in contests between large groups of people. Even though many people will point out hypocrisy, it still gives the necessary element of "implausible deniability" so people who have bought in anyway have something to invoke.
"Yeah, US foreign policy has been pretty much spineless when dealing with Russia since Reagans day... somehow since then we aren't allowed to piss them off."
We didn't risk much for the trivial players back then either. Some game pieces are expendable, while others have more value.
"which lead to other nations breaking those same rules, .."
Our Cold War opponents broke them at will in the recent past anyway, because it served them well and they could.
"Rules" are window dressing to amuse the earnest and naive people who believe in them. Power is what matters, because to the extent one has power one can make up and enforce rules.
"Hey i've seen army bases, I'll take my pampered air force thank you very much."
The USAF was still pampered back in the Cold War through the Desert Storm, proving that being comfortable does not require a PC atmosphere.
It isn't the decent living conditions (after all, most of ones career is spent in peacetime, why should dorms and facilities suck?) but the corporate emulation of late that is IMO the real problem.
"Well Richard, it seems my fellow Texans have been slacking! Let me just take a few minutes to tell you about Jesus, and the wonderful sacrifice he made for you..."
"Jesus" is a copyrighted work of the Republican Party. Please consult their lawyers before going any further. :)
I'm an atheist in a very Red state (SC) and not only don't they try to convert me, there is a healthy attitude towards firearms, blackpowder, and even personal ownership of cannon!
Don't read into my statement.
There is a difference between familiarity with conditions on the ground, which includes understanding the necessity for appropriate use of violence and the consequences of MIS-applied violence, and a more abstract and media-conditioned idea of outcomes.
It's not a matter of being "eager" to kill, it's a matter of having experience-based perspective on which to build strength and decisiveness. We need people who understand how to use violence appropriately and won't lose much sleep over it except when they screw up. It's perfectly OK to kill certain folks (consult your particular social construct for guidance), and as long as violence is the ultimate dispute resolution tool we need professional killers who are competent,reliable, well-behaved, and not damaged by taking human life.
Good thing our Founders didn't snivel about sending musket balls and grape shot into people we disagreed with.