I see all the bashing you are getting, even though you are right.:)
Why should the OS trust in people blindly? We certainly don't trust in technology that much: that's the point of fault tolerance, error detection & correction schemes, etc. . People are "idiots" and will always be so, and even smart people sometimes act like they don't know better. If idiocy is ubiquitous, why it's the thing to blame?
You made me remember this little jewel...
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Hardware met Software on the road to Changtse. Software said: “You are Yin and I am Yang. If we travel together we will become famous and earn vast sums of money.” And so the set forth together, thinking to conquer the world.
Presently they met Firmware, who was dressed in tattered rags and hobbled along propped on a thorny stick. Firmware said to them: “The Tao lies beyond Yin and Yang. It is silent and still as a pool of water. It does not seek fame, therefore nobody knows its presence. It does not seek fortune, for it is complete within itself. It exists beyond space and time.”
Software and Hardware, ashamed, returned to their homes.
Ah, but that's the whole point, isn't it? This is too drastic.
I've known a few small and medium-sized breeders in my life, and they are not like what you describe: they wait until a few people asks for a certain race, and only then they allow the parents to mate. And how can the breeder know if they'll be good keepers? Easy, he/she can't There are owners who mistreat their pets, and owners who don't, but even if it's bad this is not different than other situations. The government doesn't inspect you a whole year to know if you are allowed to marry, it can only trust, same thing here. This ban is just too extreme.
Heavy regulation on breeding, while an interesting concept if applied to big breeders, is unenforceable at low and medium scales such as the hamster example... unless you have surveillance equipment at an Orwellian scale (although I've been told by a few friends that it's common in the UK). Let's be honest... a license for breeding hamsters? Really? Have you ever had/bred hamsters? This is like requiring a license for making a cake: just too easy to do, too small to notice.
Nevertheless, what you said about neutering/spewing is actually a much better solution than just banning the sale, as it guarantees that there would be no propagation whatsoever. It has been applied in my home town ten years ago and now the problem is effectively solved. And mind you, it had a HUGE stray dog problem, with numerous packs of five or six dogs terrorizing the population (there's even a movie about it, although it's in German).
There's this paragraph of yours (the "pet as accessory" one) that's really weird: you assume that people who can't buy would go to a shelter? Maybe, but consider someone who wants an animal companion and lives in a department that poses as a tuna can (really common these days). A hamster or a fish would be an acceptable animal but you won't find those there. So, let's assume you pick a dog: small dogs are more sought than big ones because of space-constraints, with disastrous consequences for their gene pool, I'll agree (chihuahuas that become retards and weaklings, etc). Thing is, the only way to change this is to change the way cities are designed AND people's mentality, not with a ban.
Don't worry, a few of us don't bite (pun intended:) ). It's the nature of the internetz, we can't see a face so it's hard for people to think there's a human being on the other side. Personally, I always disliked this fact about liberalism: it can be adopted by both the left and the right, with different outcomes. Finally, this may come as a surprise for you given that I bashed your comment, but although I'm quite the tree-hugger and prefer plants over animals, I had two hamsters that died of rip-old age and have now an oversized chihuahua with mandibular prognathism, ugly as hell and with a similar disposition. But if I don't love and care him, who would?:)
I have said this once or twice in the past, but what the hell.:)
I did research on this subject and you, sir, nailed it. People don't choose numbers: they choose patterns, all the time. The most common passwords are, unsurprisingly, lines. A few are one or two repeating digits. People also have a fondness of diagonals and spirals, although this is noticeable when there are 16 or more buttons. That being said, I'm surprised that 5683 is so common.
That's incorrect. Chances are, the second picker has 0.9 of not choosing a chosen number. The third has 0.9 * 0.8 = 0.72 (28% that there would be a collision) . With a fourth, 0.9 * 0.8 * 0.7 = 0.504 of not picking a chosen number, so almost 50% of the times there'll be a collision. This is the mathematical substrate behind birthday attacks.
I trolled people for the lulz only once in my life, and it was using this scheme, on Facebook. Boy, do they felt like idiots when they saw their passwords! XD
The quotes are incorrectly applied. It's Certified "Ethical Hacking". The concept of "Ethical Hacking", whatever it means, is what gets certified, not the "Ethical". I agree that "Ethical Hacking" is a somewhat murky idea: it means that instead of getting practical knowledge by messing around with other people's servers, you messed around with a few computers in a laboratory, under specific constrains.
Yeah, what a strange question OP has asked...:/ . What really marvels me is that Americans have 4 years to learn a lot of stuff, yet from what I read here most of CS degrees are wasting valuable time in History, English or Art! Like OP, I don't say they aren't valuable, just that they aren't that important to the degree's field.
This is what someone like him would do in Argentina (I'll just write from now as if I was talking to him):
You would want to go for a degree in Information System Engineering: it would be 5 years long, and you would have to take a few Gen-Eds with knowledge relevant to the field (IIRC Chemistry, Physics, Maths, Economy, and Law). Half or so of the courses have on-the-field assignments (go to a real company and set a network and server for them, do quality management, use BI to answer questions, develop an AI-program to solve a certain problem, etc.). On the last year we had more managerial courses available (akin to an MBA), and they are practical from the start.
You seem more like an engineer than a compsci. I urge you to avoid Computer Science and look for an Engineering degree: the emphasis in practical knowledge will suit your taste better, and even if the courses/teachers suck, the students there will probably be like you. Although I described my education there, friends in Germany and France told me they had similar approaches.
tl;dr: Get an System Engineering degree abroad, education in America doesn't have your mentality.
You said that he/she can distribute a URL, so you're assuming a server is available; why should a beginner care for such things, I wonder. Then you have to deal with different browsers. Then with different libraries (so you don't suffer so much from the previous point). Then with setting an ad hoc environment (remember, we are talking beginners here). Then with CSS. Then with JavaScript's magic (there wouldn't be questionnaires asking why "undefined !== undefined" if it were so simple).
A lot of people here just isn't thinking in how to learn to program! They are thinking in how cool or useful is Derp Programming Language because of certain features. Python is crap because of blank spaces and tabs: empty characters, IRL, don't alter meaning, yet it glorifies spaces and tabs semantically, and it's a massive downer for newcomers (I literally chose to learn C when I was 15 because the other language I could choose had that feature). JavaScript is crappy, as I said above, because of all the hassle.
Yes, I programmed in both Python and Javascript, I like certain aspects of both, and do enjoy programming in both. But I wouldn't recommend those languages as your first brush with programming. They are more like a second or third choice.
You aren't thinking as a beginner: you are thinking as a programmer. When I learned to program, If I wanted to emphasize a certain line of code with a tab, or use tabs and spaces wherever I wanted, why shouldn't I? Why restrict the student? I'm learning programming, not style. Eventually, after I learned how to program, I understood how useful was to have a coding style, or Hungarian notation, or whatever. Python is a great second language, but not the first one.
There's also a great notion that has escaped you, now that you are a Python programmer: as a normal person, you don't see the blank and the tab characters, they are "empty", therefore they surely don't alter the program at all! They don't alter the meaning on a newspaper or a book. It's common sense, and a huge downer for beginners. Of course, we, as pythonists, know better, but if you want to teach you have to think in their terms, not yours!
People like you is exactly why we need laws that has mandatory hiring if an applicant is proficient. Human behaviours can be fixed easily if you know how to manage.
I know if I come across one of these people I will hire immediately and he will turn out like a military veteran under my training. It is all about getting the right boss.
People like you is why Amerika is going down.
Well, I'm not from Amerika, and I wouldn't hire him. If he can't control himself, how the hell can I trust on his leadership as a manager? When I had that urge to cause mayhem on a previous shitty job, I quitted. As simple as that. No amount of stupid revenge can pay for a clean ethics record.
Besides... Installing keyloggers to extract passwords from those assholes at the top? Is that professional nowadays, an indication of proficiency, to use your words? My little sister installed one and she's only 8, so it's not really technical proficiency. I'm afraid I can't understand how the hell were you modded Insightful.
I get tired of people crying "PRIOR ART!" without actually knowing what the hell are they talking about. It's weirder that the people that do so are smart (we deal with technology, after all).
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I see all the bashing you are getting, even though you are right. :)
Why should the OS trust in people blindly? We certainly don't trust in technology that much: that's the point of fault tolerance, error detection & correction schemes, etc. . People are "idiots" and will always be so, and even smart people sometimes act like they don't know better. If idiocy is ubiquitous, why it's the thing to blame?
Hardware met Software on the road to Changtse. Software said: “You are Yin and I am Yang. If we travel together we will become famous and earn vast sums of money.” And so the set forth together, thinking to conquer the world.
Presently they met Firmware, who was dressed in tattered rags and hobbled along propped on a thorny stick. Firmware said to them: “The Tao lies beyond Yin and Yang. It is silent and still as a pool of water. It does not seek fame, therefore nobody knows its presence. It does not seek fortune, for it is complete within itself. It exists beyond space and time.”
Software and Hardware, ashamed, returned to their homes.
Section 8.4. The Tao of Programming.
Ah, but that's the whole point, isn't it? This is too drastic.
I've known a few small and medium-sized breeders in my life, and they are not like what you describe: they wait until a few people asks for a certain race, and only then they allow the parents to mate. And how can the breeder know if they'll be good keepers? Easy, he/she can't There are owners who mistreat their pets, and owners who don't, but even if it's bad this is not different than other situations. The government doesn't inspect you a whole year to know if you are allowed to marry, it can only trust, same thing here. This ban is just too extreme.
Heavy regulation on breeding, while an interesting concept if applied to big breeders, is unenforceable at low and medium scales such as the hamster example... unless you have surveillance equipment at an Orwellian scale (although I've been told by a few friends that it's common in the UK). Let's be honest... a license for breeding hamsters? Really? Have you ever had/bred hamsters? This is like requiring a license for making a cake: just too easy to do, too small to notice.
Nevertheless, what you said about neutering/spewing is actually a much better solution than just banning the sale, as it guarantees that there would be no propagation whatsoever. It has been applied in my home town ten years ago and now the problem is effectively solved. And mind you, it had a HUGE stray dog problem, with numerous packs of five or six dogs terrorizing the population (there's even a movie about it, although it's in German).
There's this paragraph of yours (the "pet as accessory" one) that's really weird: you assume that people who can't buy would go to a shelter? Maybe, but consider someone who wants an animal companion and lives in a department that poses as a tuna can (really common these days). A hamster or a fish would be an acceptable animal but you won't find those there. So, let's assume you pick a dog: small dogs are more sought than big ones because of space-constraints, with disastrous consequences for their gene pool, I'll agree (chihuahuas that become retards and weaklings, etc). Thing is, the only way to change this is to change the way cities are designed AND people's mentality, not with a ban.
Don't worry, a few of us don't bite (pun intended :) ). It's the nature of the internetz, we can't see a face so it's hard for people to think there's a human being on the other side. Personally, I always disliked this fact about liberalism: it can be adopted by both the left and the right, with different outcomes. Finally, this may come as a surprise for you given that I bashed your comment, but although I'm quite the tree-hugger and prefer plants over animals, I had two hamsters that died of rip-old age and have now an oversized chihuahua with mandibular prognathism, ugly as hell and with a similar disposition. But if I don't love and care him, who would? :)
They are already doing something similar. Check here.
Reminds me of this pseudo URL shortener. I like it when people double check the link and uneasily open it. :D
I have said this once or twice in the past, but what the hell. :)
I did research on this subject and you, sir, nailed it. People don't choose numbers: they choose patterns, all the time. The most common passwords are, unsurprisingly, lines. A few are one or two repeating digits. People also have a fondness of diagonals and spirals, although this is noticeable when there are 16 or more buttons. That being said, I'm surprised that 5683 is so common.
That's incorrect. Chances are, the second picker has 0.9 of not choosing a chosen number. The third has 0.9 * 0.8 = 0.72 (28% that there would be a collision) . With a fourth, 0.9 * 0.8 * 0.7 = 0.504 of not picking a chosen number, so almost 50% of the times there'll be a collision. This is the mathematical substrate behind birthday attacks.
It's the least likely to be used!
Don't post my passcode like that!
I trolled people for the lulz only once in my life, and it was using this scheme, on Facebook. Boy, do they felt like idiots when they saw their passwords! XD
.. but I guess Marketing people didn't like it. A change for the worse, methinks
The quotes are incorrectly applied. It's Certified "Ethical Hacking". The concept of "Ethical Hacking", whatever it means, is what gets certified, not the "Ethical". I agree that "Ethical Hacking" is a somewhat murky idea: it means that instead of getting practical knowledge by messing around with other people's servers, you messed around with a few computers in a laboratory, under specific constrains.
Yeah, what a strange question OP has asked... :/ . What really marvels me is that Americans have 4 years to learn a lot of stuff, yet from what I read here most of CS degrees are wasting valuable time in History, English or Art! Like OP, I don't say they aren't valuable, just that they aren't that important to the degree's field.
This is what someone like him would do in Argentina (I'll just write from now as if I was talking to him):
You would want to go for a degree in Information System Engineering: it would be 5 years long, and you would have to take a few Gen-Eds with knowledge relevant to the field (IIRC Chemistry, Physics, Maths, Economy, and Law). Half or so of the courses have on-the-field assignments (go to a real company and set a network and server for them, do quality management, use BI to answer questions, develop an AI-program to solve a certain problem, etc.). On the last year we had more managerial courses available (akin to an MBA), and they are practical from the start.
You seem more like an engineer than a compsci. I urge you to avoid Computer Science and look for an Engineering degree: the emphasis in practical knowledge will suit your taste better, and even if the courses/teachers suck, the students there will probably be like you. Although I described my education there, friends in Germany and France told me they had similar approaches.
tl;dr: Get an System Engineering degree abroad, education in America doesn't have your mentality.
Welcome to the herd! :D
That's even worse than Python! :O
You said that he/she can distribute a URL, so you're assuming a server is available; why should a beginner care for such things, I wonder. Then you have to deal with different browsers. Then with different libraries (so you don't suffer so much from the previous point). Then with setting an ad hoc environment (remember, we are talking beginners here). Then with CSS. Then with JavaScript's magic (there wouldn't be questionnaires asking why "undefined !== undefined" if it were so simple).
A lot of people here just isn't thinking in how to learn to program! They are thinking in how cool or useful is Derp Programming Language because of certain features. Python is crap because of blank spaces and tabs: empty characters, IRL, don't alter meaning, yet it glorifies spaces and tabs semantically, and it's a massive downer for newcomers (I literally chose to learn C when I was 15 because the other language I could choose had that feature). JavaScript is crappy, as I said above, because of all the hassle.
Yes, I programmed in both Python and Javascript, I like certain aspects of both, and do enjoy programming in both. But I wouldn't recommend those languages as your first brush with programming. They are more like a second or third choice.
You aren't thinking as a beginner: you are thinking as a programmer. When I learned to program, If I wanted to emphasize a certain line of code with a tab, or use tabs and spaces wherever I wanted, why shouldn't I? Why restrict the student? I'm learning programming, not style. Eventually, after I learned how to program, I understood how useful was to have a coding style, or Hungarian notation, or whatever. Python is a great second language, but not the first one.
There's also a great notion that has escaped you, now that you are a Python programmer: as a normal person, you don't see the blank and the tab characters, they are "empty", therefore they surely don't alter the program at all! They don't alter the meaning on a newspaper or a book. It's common sense, and a huge downer for beginners. Of course, we, as pythonists, know better, but if you want to teach you have to think in their terms, not yours!
yet I understand better if you use only spaces for delimiting then you ll have more troubles i think in a semantical sense
People like you is exactly why we need laws that has mandatory hiring if an applicant is proficient. Human behaviours can be fixed easily if you know how to manage.
I know if I come across one of these people I will hire immediately and he will turn out like a military veteran under my training. It is all about getting the right boss.
People like you is why Amerika is going down.
Well, I'm not from Amerika, and I wouldn't hire him. If he can't control himself, how the hell can I trust on his leadership as a manager? When I had that urge to cause mayhem on a previous shitty job, I quitted. As simple as that. No amount of stupid revenge can pay for a clean ethics record.
Besides... Installing keyloggers to extract passwords from those assholes at the top? Is that professional nowadays, an indication of proficiency, to use your words? My little sister installed one and she's only 8, so it's not really technical proficiency. I'm afraid I can't understand how the hell were you modded Insightful.
If I read correctly, there were indeed two.
A post under you already explained it: it refers to the first ISO standard for C++. And yeah, I thought the same thing: "Really? Only 13 years?"
...that Babbage had already invented a personal computer for himself. Yeah, he never actually built it, but hey, who cares?
"Only in the United States, where caps are popular."
Everybody is bashing at you because of that statement. Well, it happens to us all. :)
Right off the top of my head, Canada, Uruguay and Australia are really into caps.
This.
I get tired of people crying "PRIOR ART!" without actually knowing what the hell are they talking about. It's weirder that the people that do so are smart (we deal with technology, after all).
Beat the strawman
Derail the non-sequitur.
Brazil has a great ethanol industry, but they use sugar cane, not corn. Better yield and all...
In fact, quite a few of them are in China.