actually apparently he *did* redistribute it... at least according to the guy who did the contract work
"I should mention that Connolly has distributed copies of Mambo under the GPL on his homepage (http://www.literatigroup.com/furthermore/, now removed, screenshot available) " -- Emir Sakic
*shrug* I think Sakic summed it up nicely...
To summarize it: 1) The code delivered to Brian Connolly is not the same as the code implemented in Mambo. 2) The code delivered to Brian Connolly was derived from GPL, Copyright Miro International Pty. 3) Brian Connolly distributed copies of Mambo that had the so-called 'infringing' functionality under the GPL. 4) There are no copyright assignments with my signature on. 5) Brian Connolly has no trademarks or patents on anything resembling the disputed functionality.
"I looked into this last year, but the holding out point was the cost...it didn't seem to be cheap enough to warrant not buying a Tivo. Still, you wouldn't have to pay the monthy fee (yech!)
Has anyone 'rolled their own' and have a price/features overview? Is it worth it yet?"
it's really less about "cost" and more about freedom and the ability to customize and add functionality without waiting for the corporate groupthink to ask the FCC first if it's ok or not.
*shrug* In order for it to be cost effective it really helps to have an existing older (but not too old) PC laying around that you can throw a 99 dollar hardware tuner/encoder card into and some beefy drives. (and then have the patience to install, configure, and tweak it to your hearts content...) (it also helps to factor in the lifetime unit subscription of a Tivo + the 99 dollar AMIR price... at least that's what you tell the wife when you spend 700 dollars on your DIY PVR =) )
I had the same issue with the review... it doesn't make sense to me. They compare PQ with two different types of cards, and compare setups with the harder to setup stand alone myth (compared to knoppmyth)...
i'm glad it wasn't just me who was confused on their methodology there...
That these latest string of announcements are more about creating buzz for the benefit of stockholders than necessarily products/service that we'll see come to the light of day...
My prediction? One or the other company won't be around to do it's end of the bargain... that is unless M$ swoops in for it's own nefarious media platform purposes...
Well... i went out and bought a laserdisc player and a SW:ANH laserdisc off ebay, once I heard that the DVD's were going to be Special Edition vintatge...
We had a showing and then popped in a VHS of the special edition and cued it up to the "greedo shooting first" scene. It is horrid, but I had to admit that the colors of the special edition were much more vibrant and modern (which I liked).
The laser disc looked very pale and 70's style. (yes I know it's a 70's film, but in comparison to the cleaned up version it looked "clear" but "bad")
There were several different versions of ANH on laserdisc of varying qualities (including a laserdisc of the garbage special edition, yuck!). I wonder if the "definitive collection" laserdisc or the other late 80's early 90's reprint was done cleaner than the early 80's one I have. (any LD geeks know which edition is the best print? please advise)
THere is some product confusion... but it's not too hard to decypher (but one could argue that if it exists at all, then the marketing isn't so hot)
THere's the PVR250 retail, that comes with a remote and shiny box and is around 120 beans. It also has 1/8" stereo jacks for audio input.
The PVR250 MCE has RCA input jacks for audio and no remote since it's presumed that it'll be used in a MCE "class" machine with a separate remote. There are OEM and "retail" flavors.
There's also the blackbird/rosyln oem only flavor 250 that's really a 250 in name only (different connextant chipset)
*Shrug* when they comeout with the dual tuner pvr500 then the alphabet soup will be even more cloudy =)
There might be a few more revisions but those are really crusty old pvr250's with the iv15 chip. IIRC
" Lifetime TiVO service is $299. If you purchase that it will never cost more."
ah.. but that is lifetime of the UNIT (not your lifetime)... if it breaks after the first year, you woulda been better off doing $13/month.
What about the folks in Canada, eh? TiVo doesn't accept dad's beer money there... (translation: they don't provide listing service/support for Canada)... although there are some clever folks in the tivocanda forums that figured out some clever ways to load tivo guide data slices =)
Soon TiVo users will be able to share DRM'd dongle enabled shows because the FCC said they could (despite the NFL and MPAA's best efforts)
Me I just edit out some commercials, burn a DVD, and go! Now only if there was something worth archiving =(
I can play MAME, pull up local movie schedules, RSS feeds (*cough slashdot*), instant weather (no waiting on the 8's on TWC for me) on my DIY PVR, not so much with those features on the TiVo =)
And since it's PC based, it's somewhat trivial to add new features or ideas as I come up with them (or the community writes more apps). I don't have to wait for corporate bigwigs to decide how I want to watch TV/use my DVR/PVR... I decide.
The price you pay for the level of customization/freedom is:
1. possibly more initial costs 2. time/effort 3. more time 4 patience =)
I think it's worth it, because I like TV/PVR's, and I like futzing around with my PC case off... and it's an another excuse to buy a dremel (for case modding)
" and you're how many $$'s ahead, with how much extra time from not building your own system??"
yeah, but as a regular/. reader all that free time we'd normally have filled up with things like "dating" and "outside" needs to be taken up with something.
Tivo's are great (I love mine), but I really like the flexibility of rolling my own ( so much so I put up a community dedicated to building your own PVR )
DIY is MORE about control and creativity than it is about saving a buck (you'd figure the/. OSS zealots would be more into a TRUE OSS HTPC than the linux-based but mostly propietary/locked up (series 2) TiVo box).
And don't forget our tinfoil hat paranoid faction, who would rather have control of who or which company's get our viewing habit data (anonymized/aggregated or not).
"Just let me know when I can use my ATI All-in-Wonder in a MythTV box.../hates ATI's MultiMedia Center software SO much..."
well... you could try something like snapstreams BeyondTV which supports the AIW and is leagues better than the bundled quasi-pvr applications...
Although even then I'm pretty "meh" on the AIW... I suggest picking up another tuner card that has a linux driver that uses a hardware encoder. (like the WinTV pvr250) You can use that with the OSS IVTV driver and MythTV and have a grand old time. =)
I'm pretty sure Valve encrypted it to the point where even THEY don't know how to unencrypt it =P (like when I managed to pkzip my pkunzip file in ye olde DOS days of yore)
I think Amazon just changed the date on the pre-order nov 2005 (j/k)
I saw these guys presentation at Oreilly's etech conference in Feb... and it does a whole host of geolocation type services.
IT's really quite slick the little sms/email query system they came up with.
It has access to geocoded data, so if you tell the service about your location, besides telling your friends where you are, it can tell you that their's 50 cent drafts down the block... or you can ask it where the closest bar with a pac man or pooltable...
Obviously, this makes the most sense and is the most useful, in a dense urban area filled with younger/hipper crowd with a mobile phone less than 3 years old =P
There are a lot of cool geolocation based social implications... cool spontaneous flash mob type stuff.
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actually apparently he *did* redistribute it... at least according to the guy who did the contract work
"I should mention that Connolly has distributed copies of Mambo under the GPL on his homepage (http://www.literatigroup.com/furthermore/, now removed, screenshot available) " -- Emir Sakic
*shrug* I think Sakic summed it up nicely...
To summarize it:
1) The code delivered to Brian Connolly is not the same as the code implemented in Mambo.
2) The code delivered to Brian Connolly was derived from GPL, Copyright Miro International Pty.
3) Brian Connolly distributed copies of Mambo that had the so-called 'infringing' functionality under the GPL.
4) There are no copyright assignments with my signature on.
5) Brian Connolly has no trademarks or patents on anything resembling the disputed functionality.
"It doesn't have support for ATI AIW products"
I haven't done it... but couldn't you use the gatos project drivers with Myth, or no?
just a thought...
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"I looked into this last year, but the holding out point was the cost...it didn't seem to be cheap enough to warrant not buying a Tivo. Still, you wouldn't have to pay the monthy fee (yech!)
Has anyone 'rolled their own' and have a price/features overview? Is it worth it yet?"
it's really less about "cost" and more about freedom and the ability to customize and add functionality without waiting for the corporate groupthink to ask the FCC first if it's ok or not.
*shrug* In order for it to be cost effective it really helps to have an existing older (but not too old) PC laying around that you can throw a 99 dollar hardware tuner/encoder card into and some beefy drives. (and then have the patience to install, configure, and tweak it to your hearts content...) (it also helps to factor in the lifetime unit subscription of a Tivo + the 99 dollar AMIR price... at least that's what you tell the wife when you spend 700 dollars on your DIY PVR =) )
YMMV,
e.
One example (although for over the air ATSC DTV signals)
pcHDTV HD-2000
seems to be sold out (which is good and bad)
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well, not exactly... (not sure if CDDB is the right analogy here though... not sure what you mean...)
if you are talking about getting TV guide data free as in beer... you can sign up for a free account with zap2it. google for xmltv =)
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I had the same issue with the review... it doesn't make sense to me. They compare PQ with two different types of cards, and compare setups with the harder to setup stand alone myth (compared to knoppmyth)...
i'm glad it wasn't just me who was confused on their methodology there...
e.
That one time... (but not in band camp)...
I tried installing slackware inside os/2 warp from a dos shell inside windows sessions... and I saw god!
(and nearly destroyed the space time contium, thank god for tachion rays!).
=)
e.
That these latest string of announcements are more about creating buzz for the benefit of stockholders than necessarily products/service that we'll see come to the light of day...
My prediction? One or the other company won't be around to do it's end of the bargain... that is unless M$ swoops in for it's own nefarious media platform purposes...
but that's just me =)
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EFF (anti) Broadcast flag page
Join the Television Front of Digital Liberation!
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Well... i went out and bought a laserdisc player and a SW:ANH laserdisc off ebay, once I heard that the DVD's were going to be Special Edition vintatge...
We had a showing and then popped in a VHS of the special edition and cued it up to the "greedo shooting first" scene. It is horrid, but I had to admit that the colors of the special edition were much more vibrant and modern (which I liked).
The laser disc looked very pale and 70's style. (yes I know it's a 70's film, but in comparison to the cleaned up version it looked "clear" but "bad")
There were several different versions of ANH on laserdisc of varying qualities (including a laserdisc of the garbage special edition, yuck!). I wonder if the "definitive collection" laserdisc or the other late 80's early 90's reprint was done cleaner than the early 80's one I have. (any LD geeks know which edition is the best print? please advise)
There's always the Phantom Edit approach =)
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this isn't helping get my older brother out of my parent's basement anytime sooner... =(
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nuh-uh =P
read what you pasted carefully (especially the parentheticals). read what I posted, again... if your unit breaks out of warranty you're hosed.
e.
THere is some product confusion... but it's not too hard to decypher (but one could argue that if it exists at all, then the marketing isn't so hot)
THere's the PVR250 retail, that comes with a remote and shiny box and is around 120 beans. It also has 1/8" stereo jacks for audio input.
The PVR250 MCE has RCA input jacks for audio and no remote since it's presumed that it'll be used in a MCE "class" machine with a separate remote. There are OEM and "retail" flavors.
There's also the blackbird/rosyln oem only flavor 250 that's really a 250 in name only (different connextant chipset)
*Shrug* when they comeout with the dual tuner pvr500 then the alphabet soup will be even more cloudy =)
There might be a few more revisions but those are really crusty old pvr250's with the iv15 chip. IIRC
e.
Toms Hardware review
e.
" Lifetime TiVO service is $299. If you purchase that it will never cost more."
ah.. but that is lifetime of the UNIT (not your lifetime)... if it breaks after the first year, you woulda been better off doing $13/month.
What about the folks in Canada, eh? TiVo doesn't accept dad's beer money there... (translation: they don't provide listing service/support for Canada)... although there are some clever folks in the tivocanda forums that figured out some clever ways to load tivo guide data slices =)
They won't let Yanks into their forum though...
e.
Soon TiVo users will be able to share DRM'd dongle enabled shows because the FCC said they could (despite the NFL and MPAA's best efforts)
Me I just edit out some commercials, burn a DVD, and go! Now only if there was something worth archiving =(
I can play MAME, pull up local movie schedules, RSS feeds (*cough slashdot*), instant weather (no waiting on the 8's on TWC for me) on my DIY PVR, not so much with those features on the TiVo =)
And since it's PC based, it's somewhat trivial to add new features or ideas as I come up with them (or the community writes more apps). I don't have to wait for corporate bigwigs to decide how I want to watch TV/use my DVR/PVR... I decide.
The price you pay for the level of customization/freedom is:
1. possibly more initial costs
2. time/effort
3. more time
4 patience =)
I think it's worth it, because I like TV/PVR's, and I like futzing around with my PC case off... and it's an another excuse to buy a dremel (for case modding)
e.
" and you're how many $$'s ahead, with how much extra time from not building your own system??"
/. reader all that free time we'd normally have filled up with things like "dating" and "outside" needs to be taken up with something.
yeah, but as a regular
Might as well be Doom3 and building HTPCs, eh?
E.
ah but that's after rebate =)
/. OSS zealots would be more into a TRUE OSS HTPC than the linux-based but mostly propietary/locked up (series 2) TiVo box).
Tivo's are great (I love mine), but I really like the flexibility of rolling my own ( so much so I put up a community dedicated to building your own PVR )
DIY is MORE about control and creativity than it is about saving a buck (you'd figure the
Although if you are creative with existing components you can build a tivo-esque workalike pretty cheap.
And don't forget our tinfoil hat paranoid faction, who would rather have control of who or which company's get our viewing habit data (anonymized/aggregated or not).
*shrug* YMMV
e.
"Just let me know when I can use my ATI All-in-Wonder in a MythTV box... /hates ATI's MultiMedia Center software SO much..."
well... you could try something like snapstreams BeyondTV which supports the AIW and is leagues better than the bundled quasi-pvr applications...
Although even then I'm pretty "meh" on the AIW... I suggest picking up another tuner card that has a linux driver that uses a hardware encoder. (like the WinTV pvr250) You can use that with the OSS IVTV driver and MythTV and have a grand old time. =)
e.
It used a grid mousepad and had a serial cable...
that's old skool =)
e.
red nova article on AU compressed air car
(ok it's closer to a tractor or golf cart but still novel idea)
I hear if you get 5 friends to sign up at the article's site you get a free hybrid electric car =)
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now I'm going to have to register:
byoHC.com
=(
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I'm pretty sure Valve encrypted it to the point where even THEY don't know how to unencrypt it =P (like when I managed to pkzip my pkunzip file in ye olde DOS days of yore)
I think Amazon just changed the date on the pre-order nov 2005 (j/k)
e.
I saw these guys presentation at Oreilly's etech conference in Feb... and it does a whole host of geolocation type services.
IT's really quite slick the little sms/email query system they came up with.
It has access to geocoded data, so if you tell the service about your location, besides telling your friends where you are, it can tell you that their's 50 cent drafts down the block... or you can ask it where the closest bar with a pac man or pooltable...
Obviously, this makes the most sense and is the most useful, in a dense urban area filled with younger/hipper crowd with a mobile phone less than 3 years old =P
There are a lot of cool geolocation based social implications... cool spontaneous flash mob type stuff.
In short, I wish I thought of it =( bastages!
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the download the internet thing would be funnier if it worked in firefox =(
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