Humans will evolve to live in the sea, and with the pressure and gravity difference of other worlds. We will adapt and evolve as our environments dictate, and if technology eventually permits we will actually rewrite our own genetic code to suit our whims.
*blink*
/Reads subject again
*blink*
I dearly hope you're not the DNA wright rewriting our genetic code, since you'll likely not get it "write", right?
More like "Microsoft did something right, but thier marketing department is pushing it to be way better than everything else in technically questionable ways."
Doing this would bring new meaning to the terms "Blue Screen Of Death" (death unseen coming from above), "Kernel Panic" (playing with things you shouldn't) and "ABEND" ("Hello Darwin Award!!").
I agree that most security officers don't know jack about what patches are truly needed and why, just that they are needed to reduce the risk to business continuance. IOW, they are liasons to the people who have other things to do besides deploy updates and who need to learn why sysadmins would ban those bloody sticky notes from any office with a PC in it.
They are business people, not IT people, so stop treating them as such.
Hey, I'll patent a method whereby any business process or product is instantly made better by pre-pending the word "Open" in front of it! OpenAIX! OpenWindows! I'll be rich!
Arrr, ye olde server hostin' yon quiz has been sent to Davey Joneses Locker. Any of ye scurvy dogs have a 'patch' te keep it afloat until we're done plunderin' her? Arrrr
Sure Microsoft has a Security Department. They're the nice people who, after you've quit MS to go work at a rival orginisation, walk you from your former office, out the front door and past Steve Balmers office window. Just watch for well aimed office chairs...
After 6 months of internet hype, "I'm TIRED of these MOTHERFUCKING SNAKES on this MOTHERFUCKING PLANE!", plain and simple. I'll wait for the DVD, thanks.
Is that like "if you have nothing to hide, you won't object to surveillance"? Seriously, poor government!
No, it's not like that. It's more like this:
"If you have been truthful to previous investigaters about your involvement in this, you won't mind us investigating your pal over here for any wrong-doing on his part."
The US Govt. tried to have the case against AT&T thrown out - not a case against itself. It's quite a diffrent matter.
Your statement is inherently true - Microsoft takes care of it's devs (The VS product line is normally stellar in quality and ease of use) unless, of course, you're a dev in competition with them. Then you get to deal with closed formats, random API changes and, in the case of GPL software devs, licensing that benefits them at your expense. Oh, you can become a compeditor of thiers at any time - as soon as they see you're making some serious money and/or stratecically covet your market segment.
OK, Microsoft can do ths if they want, but it hurts the industry when Microsoft can tell devs what, for whom and how to develop software, or suffer destruction at thier hands. (Unlees you're IBM or Oracle sized, and have enough resources to fight back.)
Think for a second. The freeway system quite possibly prevented the need for several highway systems hodge-podged across your country. IOW, one big system to handle the traffic, obviating the need of more land taken up by several roads going to the same place.
In Ontario, Highway 11 (part of the Trans Canada highway from Barrie, north of Toronto, to North Bay on Lake Nippissing) has been widened from 2 lanes to 4 in order to keep some side roads from being used, as the highway does get a bit jammed up once or twice a year. I read somewhere that the Ministry of Transportation and the Ministry of the Environment agreed that the Hwy 11 lands were already designated as a thoroughfare, and that the surronding country side should be protected from excessive traffic, so they used a bit more land for Hwy 11 in order to protect the rest.
Better highway, less traffic and less pressure on the surrounding country side - an all-around win, I say.
Since this seems to stand in direct contradiction with everything we (or, at least, I) thought about her in the past, does that mean that Rosen, like any other CEO, will do whatever they think their current employer needs, regardless of personal opinion about it?
That's pretty much a CEOs JOB, friend, to further the interests of the people investing in thier company no matter what. Google and Canonical are exceptions, where having a social concience is not considered a liability. Usually the question "Am I doing he right thing" is followed by "for the company". It depends on whether your self worth is tied to being a good CEO, or being a good regular standard issue human.
I got out of management when I realised that I would have to someday fire people who were no longer useful to the comapany. Having to tear apart one persons life so the rest would have a stronger company to work for scared the hell out of me - I doubt I'd of had the stomach for it. I'd therefore make a poor CEO, in the eyes of investors, anyway.
Thank you - that pointed out that it's a Yankee/SunBelt survey.
SunBelt Software has always been dependant on Microsoft (through value adds to MS products) for revenue, so thier sponsorship of this survey casts it into a questionable light. I call this a fairly well disguised attempt at spreading marketing instead of a scientifically done survey.
What you're implying is that people would be OK if they just switched to something else? And how is that different from Word? I can count the number of applications I've seen that are *truly* database and OS-agnostic. I'd like to see "everyone" switch phpBB or whatever from MySQL to Postgres in an afternoon. Too difficult... no different from switching from MS OFfice to OpenOffice, except probably in scale.
Not the point at all. The point is that you CAN migrate away from $INSECURE_DATABASE_VENDOR if you decide they've cost you too much/made you look bad/pissed you off somehow, with little to no loss in functionality. No, most apps aren't truly DB agnostic, but thay can be made to be that way with not too much pain - and with Perl (and others) it's only the DB specific parts that need be changed (DBI rocks). Can anyone re-write phpBB for Postgres by flipping a switch? No, but one rev later MySQL could be replaced with ease.
With your data locked in a.DOC box, there's little chance of duplicating the functionality required in order to get the same data out as what went in. Note that some of this data is asthetic and subjective in nature - only Word can make a.DOC re-appear exactly as the user first remembers it. What do we migrate to that can reliably and exactly re-produce.DOC files? OOo does a pretyy good job, but falls flat on it's splash-screen with a lot of Word documents. There is no equivelent.DOC parser/renderer/printer to Word. Postgres/Oracle/DB2/MSSQL/MySQL all have a similar functionality set, so they can reproduce the data the user wants with a lot more certainty.
Your point is cogent, but is a little tangental to the authors point - unless there is more than one method capable of exactly (within reason) re-producing the data the user wants from the bits in storage, we have a monoculture - and that can be a bad thing.
Slashdot Mirror
"If you ask enought experts, you can confirm any opinion or theory."
;-)
Not sure who said it, but it's valid IMHO.
So how many experts did we go through to get that one?
Soko
Humans will evolve to live in the sea, and with the pressure and gravity difference of other worlds. We will adapt and evolve as our environments dictate, and if technology eventually permits we will actually rewrite our own genetic code to suit our whims.
/Reads subject again
/runs away
*blink*
*blink*
I dearly hope you're not the DNA wright rewriting our genetic code, since you'll likely not get it "write", right?
Soko
The article in science was where I caught this initially though it doesn't seem to be free anywhere online.
Google News has a few.
Soko
More like "Microsoft did something right, but thier marketing department is pushing it to be way better than everything else in technically questionable ways."
I'd add "Again." to the end of that, myself.
Soko
Doing this would bring new meaning to the terms "Blue Screen Of Death" (death unseen coming from above), "Kernel Panic" (playing with things you shouldn't) and "ABEND" ("Hello Darwin Award!!").
Soko
Lemme guess - you're a sysadmin, right?
I agree that most security officers don't know jack about what patches are truly needed and why, just that they are needed to reduce the risk to business continuance. IOW, they are liasons to the people who have other things to do besides deploy updates and who need to learn why sysadmins would ban those bloody sticky notes from any office with a PC in it.
They are business people, not IT people, so stop treating them as such.
Soko
Hey, I'll patent a method whereby any business process or product is instantly made better by pre-pending the word "Open" in front of it! OpenAIX! OpenWindows! I'll be rich!
*Evily twists moustache*
Ummm.. whatsat?
*Looks at prior art from SCO*
Ewwwww... Maybe IBM is right.
Soko
Arrr, ye olde server hostin' yon quiz has been sent to Davey Joneses Locker. Any of ye scurvy dogs have a 'patch' te keep it afloat until we're done plunderin' her? Arrrr
Soko
Here be some insperation fer ye, matey:
http://www.bash.org/?9081
Sure Microsoft has a Security Department. They're the nice people who, after you've quit MS to go work at a rival orginisation, walk you from your former office, out the front door and past Steve Balmers office window. Just watch for well aimed office chairs...
Soko
After 6 months of internet hype, "I'm TIRED of these MOTHERFUCKING SNAKES on this MOTHERFUCKING PLANE!", plain and simple. I'll wait for the DVD, thanks.
Soko
Dude, you bought a bomb!
Now, why did I first read that as "Dude, you bought a bong!" ?
Soko
"Houston, we have a problem..."
Soko
Hey, you forgot:
*Chair flies through window
Dear Mike, let's set so double the killer delete select all!
Slashdot. Trying to create the next AYBABTU meme since 2001.
Soko
Is that like "if you have nothing to hide, you won't object to surveillance"? Seriously, poor government!
No, it's not like that. It's more like this:
"If you have been truthful to previous investigaters about your involvement in this, you won't mind us investigating your pal over here for any wrong-doing on his part."
The US Govt. tried to have the case against AT&T thrown out - not a case against itself. It's quite a diffrent matter.
Soko
Your statement is inherently true - Microsoft takes care of it's devs (The VS product line is normally stellar in quality and ease of use) unless, of course, you're a dev in competition with them. Then you get to deal with closed formats, random API changes and, in the case of GPL software devs, licensing that benefits them at your expense. Oh, you can become a compeditor of thiers at any time - as soon as they see you're making some serious money and/or stratecically covet your market segment.
OK, Microsoft can do ths if they want, but it hurts the industry when Microsoft can tell devs what, for whom and how to develop software, or suffer destruction at thier hands. (Unlees you're IBM or Oracle sized, and have enough resources to fight back.)
Soko
Yeah, his lawsuit defense will never fly. I'm sure it'll crash and burn in the courts...
Soko
That may also indicate why he went blind in the first place...
Soko
Think for a second. The freeway system quite possibly prevented the need for several highway systems hodge-podged across your country. IOW, one big system to handle the traffic, obviating the need of more land taken up by several roads going to the same place.
In Ontario, Highway 11 (part of the Trans Canada highway from Barrie, north of Toronto, to North Bay on Lake Nippissing) has been widened from 2 lanes to 4 in order to keep some side roads from being used, as the highway does get a bit jammed up once or twice a year. I read somewhere that the Ministry of Transportation and the Ministry of the Environment agreed that the Hwy 11 lands were already designated as a thoroughfare, and that the surronding country side should be protected from excessive traffic, so they used a bit more land for Hwy 11 in order to protect the rest.
Better highway, less traffic and less pressure on the surrounding country side - an all-around win, I say.
Soko
You'll get my whiskey, smokes and coffee when... err...
Let's rephrase that.
Try and take them away, and I'll get my whiskey, smokes and coffee back out of your cold dead hands.
Soko
Since this seems to stand in direct contradiction with everything we (or, at least, I) thought about her in the past, does that mean that Rosen, like any other CEO, will do whatever they think their current employer needs, regardless of personal opinion about it?
That's pretty much a CEOs JOB, friend, to further the interests of the people investing in thier company no matter what. Google and Canonical are exceptions, where having a social concience is not considered a liability. Usually the question "Am I doing he right thing" is followed by "for the company". It depends on whether your self worth is tied to being a good CEO, or being a good regular standard issue human.
I got out of management when I realised that I would have to someday fire people who were no longer useful to the comapany. Having to tear apart one persons life so the rest would have a stronger company to work for scared the hell out of me - I doubt I'd of had the stomach for it. I'd therefore make a poor CEO, in the eyes of investors, anyway.
Soko
Thank you - that pointed out that it's a Yankee/SunBelt survey.
SunBelt Software has always been dependant on Microsoft (through value adds to MS products) for revenue, so thier sponsorship of this survey casts it into a questionable light. I call this a fairly well disguised attempt at spreading marketing instead of a scientifically done survey.
Soko
Never mind that, I'd like to know how he put an ip address in his cat, and why he'd do such a thing...
ping fluffy.lmacg.net
Pinging fluffy.lmacg.net [127.127.1.25] with 32 bytes of data:
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
*MROWR*
Reply from : 127.127.1.25 bytes=32 time=900ms TTL=2520
Request timed out.
Ping statistics for :
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 1, Lost = 3 (75% loss)
Soko
What you're implying is that people would be OK if they just switched to something else? And how is that different from Word? I can count the number of applications I've seen that are *truly* database and OS-agnostic. I'd like to see "everyone" switch phpBB or whatever from MySQL to Postgres in an afternoon. Too difficult... no different from switching from MS OFfice to OpenOffice, except probably in scale.
.DOC box, there's little chance of duplicating the functionality required in order to get the same data out as what went in. Note that some of this data is asthetic and subjective in nature - only Word can make a .DOC re-appear exactly as the user first remembers it. What do we migrate to that can reliably and exactly re-produce .DOC files? OOo does a pretyy good job, but falls flat on it's splash-screen with a lot of Word documents. There is no equivelent .DOC parser/renderer/printer to Word. Postgres/Oracle/DB2/MSSQL/MySQL all have a similar functionality set, so they can reproduce the data the user wants with a lot more certainty.
Not the point at all. The point is that you CAN migrate away from $INSECURE_DATABASE_VENDOR if you decide they've cost you too much/made you look bad/pissed you off somehow, with little to no loss in functionality. No, most apps aren't truly DB agnostic, but thay can be made to be that way with not too much pain - and with Perl (and others) it's only the DB specific parts that need be changed (DBI rocks). Can anyone re-write phpBB for Postgres by flipping a switch? No, but one rev later MySQL could be replaced with ease.
With your data locked in a
Your point is cogent, but is a little tangental to the authors point - unless there is more than one method capable of exactly (within reason) re-producing the data the user wants from the bits in storage, we have a monoculture - and that can be a bad thing.
Soko
Also, Linus is more suit and general public friendly than RMS will ever be.
Congrats. You are now our current leader in the " Understatment of the Year " competition. Winner to be announced when ESR actually matters again.
Soko