What does this have to do with the book review except there is "Open Source" in the title?
In fact neither the parent post, nor any of the replies(including this one) seem to have anything to do with this book or the book review that was submitted.
Does EVERYTHING on/. have to devolve into the sort of empty, mindless, pointless, useless, repetitive, "Wait, I hate Microsoft too and I wannabe a kewl geek - Micro$oft WinBlows SuX0rS, Linux RoXX0rs!" post that you read in comments at www.geek.com?
How does the black box protect me from the negligence of someone else?
The box doesn't prevent them from speeding, or running stop lights, etc.
The box only records their negligence, so that if they run me down and kill me, they can be prosecuted. I'm dead because the box couldn't protect me, but they do get prosecuted. Well, maybe they get prosecuted. And if they do, then the data from the box might make it more likely that they'll actually be convicted.
There was plenty of cynicism(and of course it's impossible to have too much cynicism), but I have become accustomed to a sizable portion of conspiracy here, and much like giving up salt, you notice it most when it's absent(or nearly so.)
"...but he does make legitimate points that the Open Source community has wrestled with in the past."
What do you mean wrestled with in the past?
Is it in the past because you didn't see an example of OSS zealotry in the last second because you're eyes were closed? Or is it in the past because you want it to be in the past?
It's not like you have to climb in the wayback machine to find zealotry currently on the www, but there's an especially rich source here at/.
I don't mean to say that ALL open source users are zealots, but I do mean to say that there are ALOT of open source zealots out there. Some who aren't even using open source, and you know who you are.
I read this same story(and the same reponses) what, once a month or so, is this intentional bit recycling or a random relisting of an older article? I'm glad to see slashdot doing their part for the hard disk environment.
Well, let's see. They posted the exploit TODAY. And there's no patch available TODAY. I noticed when I looked down the list of exploits on their homepage, there were quite a few Open Source programs/applications listed. You didn't mention any of these, I just looked around a little. I wonder if on the day those exploits went up, patches were available THAT day.
Now the only real question for me is: Does my post get modded down by the moderators as a troll, or does it get modded down by the moderators as offtopic.
I did. But instead of (Score: 3, Funny), I got (Score: -1, Troll), which only reinforces my initial impression that moderators have noggins about as powerful as the cheesy VIA CPU.
My question is: Did anyone besides me get up at like 6:00 AM on Saturday morning to watch the Star Trek animated series back in the '70's? I was such a frickin' nerd I also bought the paperback books that were adapted from the the animated series when I could read them......
Um.... WTF are you talking about? Do you understand how investment works? Microsoft selling their stock in Corel doesn't have anything to do with Corel going out of business, or staying in business, for that matter. It does mean that Microsoft lost money on its investment, and that they don't have any direct ties to Corel. Now Corel may go out of business, but the causal factor isn't that Microsoft SOLD their share of Corel to another company.
Get out to UK and UL before you think we're all just a bunch of hicks. A few of us can figure out how to use the resources available via the Internet. And surprise, I'm not even connecting via AOL.
And where exactly did you attend college? Somehow I doubt I would be any more impressed than you are by UL and UK.
Or a different manufacturer, say for example Dell, will continue to offer Microsoft Office on a machine in a competing price niche. So if a customer wants Microsoft Office, and they look at the Gateway(at say $699) and then have to add $249 to add Microsoft Office the total is around $950. But if Dell is offering a machine preconfigured with Microsoft Office, at say $899, what do you think the customer will buy?
I build all my boxen but obviously not everybody can or would want to build their own PCs.
It's not so much that I hate Linux or Windows, more that I'm irritated by the communities of users.
Linux :
-Maybe the fact that it's portrayed as a panacea by its fans.
-And the general gnashing of teeth when other people try to make money off Linux, especially when they release a non-GPL, non-Open app. I've read plenty of the "How dare so-and-so not release their code!" comments.
-Or the elitist 'tude many in the community seem to have. Which then leads to hand-wringing in the community when someone else tries to simplify [insert topic] here.
-And especially the fact that a typical comment is "you're free to change it" when anyone makes any kind of negative statement about it. Maybe I work 70 or 80 hours a week grinding out business applications and don't have time to piddle around changing something. And even if I did change something, there would be another hurdle to overcome if it caused problems with another package I wanted to use. So now I have to change a bunch of things. And now there are 31 flavors that don't always run the same software, plus my flavor that has even more compatibility issues.
- And the fact that a comment like "I hate both", seems to be the only thing about my post you found worth a commenting. I added that as an afterthought, hoping to avoid the "You're just a heretic since you didn't say you hated microsoft,windows or bill gates" posts. A tactic which appears to be backfiring.
Windows -
I mean really, there are plenty of microsoft corporate policies that p*ss me off. DRM, some things in the EULA, etc. This one's easy. I'm sure you've got you're own list.
I think the point is that MS doesn't want any distribution of Xbox mod chips. I doubt they would bother you if you bought their Xbox, took it apart and modded whatever you wanted to, as long as you weren't distributing modchips/software to others. It's not really a question of whether you own the hardware,(I would say you do), but whether you can distribute mods to others. The main reason would be profit, I think, so that MS makes money off of games.
What is funny, but not ha-ha funny, were the vehement "MS is evil" people who complained that XBoxes were sold below cost to help MS build marketshare, and this was just another monopoly/evil practice on their part.
And now a bunch of the "MS is evil" crowd have bought XBoxes to use as cheap Linux PCs.
Hmmm...Let me get my topological map, I'm trying to find the moral high ground.
(For the record, I'm a Linux/MS agnostic. I run both. I hate both.)
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What does this have to do with the book review except there is "Open Source" in the title?
/. have to devolve into the sort of empty, mindless, pointless, useless, repetitive, "Wait, I hate Microsoft too and I wannabe a kewl geek - Micro$oft WinBlows SuX0rS, Linux RoXX0rs!" post that you read in comments at www.geek.com?
In fact neither the parent post, nor any of the replies(including this one) seem to have anything to do with this book or the book review that was submitted.
Does EVERYTHING on
Finally we have a use for the Smelloscope!
A question:
How does the black box protect me from the negligence of someone else?
The box doesn't prevent them from speeding, or running stop lights, etc.
The box only records their negligence, so that if they run me down and kill me, they can be prosecuted. I'm dead because the box couldn't protect me, but they do get prosecuted. Well, maybe they get prosecuted. And if they do, then the data from the box might make it more likely that they'll actually be convicted.
There was plenty of cynicism(and of course it's impossible to have too much cynicism), but I have become accustomed to a sizable portion of conspiracy here, and much like giving up salt, you notice it most when it's absent(or nearly so.)
"...but he does make legitimate points that the Open Source community has wrestled with in the past." /.
What do you mean wrestled with in the past? Is it in the past because you didn't see an example of OSS zealotry in the last second because you're eyes were closed? Or is it in the past because you want it to be in the past?
It's not like you have to climb in the wayback machine to find zealotry currently on the www, but there's an especially rich source here at
I don't mean to say that ALL open source users are zealots, but I do mean to say that there are ALOT of open source zealots out there. Some who aren't even using open source, and you know who you are.
What's this? A comment not supporting the conspiracy theory? How could this have happend on /. ?
I read this same story(and the same reponses) what, once a month or so, is this intentional bit recycling or a random relisting of an older article? I'm glad to see slashdot doing their part for the hard disk environment.
Yet again I roll the dice:
will it be -1 troll or -1 offtopic?
Well, let's see. They posted the exploit TODAY. And there's no patch available TODAY. I noticed when I looked down the list of exploits on their homepage, there were quite a few Open Source programs/applications listed. You didn't mention any of these, I just looked around a little. I wonder if on the day those exploits went up, patches were available THAT day.
Now the only real question for me is:
Does my post get modded down by the moderators as a troll, or does it get modded down by the moderators as offtopic.
Does the perl script actually jumble the word, or does it just scan Slashdot for a misspelling that contains the same letters?
I did. But instead of (Score: 3, Funny), I got (Score: -1, Troll), which only reinforces my initial impression that moderators have noggins about as powerful as the cheesy VIA CPU.
My question is: Did anyone besides me get up at like 6:00 AM on Saturday morning to watch the Star Trek animated series back in the '70's? I was such a frickin' nerd I also bought the paperback books that were adapted from the the animated series when I could read them......
Mmmmmmm....Pudding
WTF does people pirating windows have to do with the security of the OS? Or is there something I'm missing.
I was hoping they would release a port for my Zaurus. It would certainly change my attitude toward staff meetings.
Um.... WTF are you talking about? Do you understand how investment works? Microsoft selling their stock in Corel doesn't have anything to do with Corel going out of business, or staying in business, for that matter. It does mean that Microsoft lost money on its investment, and that they don't have any direct ties to Corel. Now Corel may go out of business, but the causal factor isn't that Microsoft SOLD their share of Corel to another company.
Imagine a Beowulf Cluster of these!
Oh wait, you'd need a Beowulf Cluster of these to achieve anything approaching reasonable performance..
Get out to UK and UL before you think we're all just a bunch of hicks. A few of us can figure out how to use the resources available via the Internet. And surprise, I'm not even connecting via AOL.
And where exactly did you attend college? Somehow I doubt I would be any more impressed than you are by UL and UK.
Or a different manufacturer, say for example Dell, will continue to offer Microsoft Office on a machine in a competing price niche. So if a customer wants Microsoft Office, and they look at the Gateway(at say $699) and then have to add $249 to add Microsoft Office the total is around $950. But if Dell is offering a machine preconfigured with Microsoft Office, at say $899, what do you think the customer will buy?
I build all my boxen but obviously not everybody can or would want to build their own PCs.
Linux : -Maybe the fact that it's portrayed as a panacea by its fans.
-And the general gnashing of teeth when other people try to make money off Linux, especially when they release a non-GPL, non-Open app. I've read plenty of the "How dare so-and-so not release their code!" comments.
-Or the elitist 'tude many in the community seem to have. Which then leads to hand-wringing in the community when someone else tries to simplify [insert topic] here.
-And especially the fact that a typical comment is "you're free to change it" when anyone makes any kind of negative statement about it. Maybe I work 70 or 80 hours a week grinding out business applications and don't have time to piddle around changing something. And even if I did change something, there would be another hurdle to overcome if it caused problems with another package I wanted to use. So now I have to change a bunch of things. And now there are 31 flavors that don't always run the same software, plus my flavor that has even more compatibility issues.
- And the fact that a comment like "I hate both", seems to be the only thing about my post you found worth a commenting. I added that as an afterthought, hoping to avoid the "You're just a heretic since you didn't say you hated microsoft,windows or bill gates" posts. A tactic which appears to be backfiring.
Windows - I mean really, there are plenty of microsoft corporate policies that p*ss me off. DRM, some things in the EULA, etc. This one's easy. I'm sure you've got you're own list.
I think the point is that MS doesn't want any distribution of Xbox mod chips. I doubt they would bother you if you bought their Xbox, took it apart and modded whatever you wanted to, as long as you weren't distributing modchips/software to others. It's not really a question of whether you own the hardware,(I would say you do), but whether you can distribute mods to others. The main reason would be profit, I think, so that MS makes money off of games.
What is funny, but not ha-ha funny, were the vehement "MS is evil" people who complained that XBoxes were sold below cost to help MS build marketshare, and this was just another monopoly/evil practice on their part.
And now a bunch of the "MS is evil" crowd have bought XBoxes to use as cheap Linux PCs.
Hmmm...Let me get my topological map, I'm trying to find the moral high ground.
(For the record, I'm a Linux/MS agnostic. I run both. I hate both.)
Wasn't it pretty recent that Larry Ellison knocked OSS RDBMS's while praising Linux? Not mySQL in particular but OSS in general, he said that companies would never trust their enterprise data to open source.
But elitist attitude is one of the foundations of slashdot!