I've developed several medium-sized projects using OO languages interfacing with a RDBMS. One used MSSQL, one used Oracle, and a couple used MySQL. (Just to be a bit more precise, by medium-sized I mean a few tens of thousand lines of code and up to 50 concurrent users per location to which the application is deployed.) I've never seen a "rough courtship with Relational database" or a problem with "OO-to-RDBMS complexity" and I would not call developing OO applications that interface with SQL databases "tedious".
Secondly, the incompatibilities can easily be addressed by creating a database connection class. The SQL implementation aren't so different that you can't pass the implementation name (i.e. MSSQL, ORA, MYSQL, etc.) to the constructor or add some #ifdefs (or the equivalent) in appropriate places and pass the right implementation-specific SQL based on that. If you do it well enough, you can reuse this class across projects. At least SQL is somewhat standardized (haha, I know). By using Prevayler (which sounds like it's some 12 year old AOLer's screen name, btw), you're locked in to one vendor. What if, for example, I have a client who can't/won't run this software? There are enough SQL variants to make pretty much anyone happy with the platform.
The poster talks about a lot of high-caliber hacks... if a developer understands the purpose of an RDBMS was supposed to do, they wouldn't need to resort to "hacks" (I was expecting an example or some useful supporting information from the poster's link... unfortunately, I was sadly mistaken). An RDBMS is a way of storing and retrieving data. The implementation of the RDBMS should have no impact on the design of a program. If it makes an OO-zealot feel warm and fuzzy, they can just think of the entire RDBMS as a giant object sitting off in never-ever land with connect and query methods (at the most basic level at least).
Lastly, I see a lot of hot air on the Prevayler website. Things talking about freedom from query languages, support of any algorith, etc. They don't seem to have a lot of information on these statement. They don't say exactly how data is stored. They seem to claim that Prevayler will organize your data in the most optimal fashion since they seem to think DBAs are evil people who, for no reason whatsoever, come up with wicked database designs intended to make developers miserable. They don't say exactly how they store data. These kind of omissions scare me. I don't trust projects just because theyre open source. (Note: If this information is available, it wasn't obvious. Even if these guys are the most awesome OO developers ever, they suck at presenting information).
What is the big deal here? Seriously... I'm just not seeing the problem.
I'm sorry if something like this has been posted before but I really didn't see anything covering these questions. Also, if it sounds like I'm a bit mean in this post, it's because as I was writing the post, I tried to answer my own questions through the Prevayler website but was unable to find any useful information -- in fact, I ended up with more unanswered questions than I started with. In short, zealotry combined with lack of information makes me an unhappy camper.
I, too, spent some time with geology and I prefer the "pack up the coastal cities scenario" to the "Snowball Earth" scenario (or even an ice age on the magnitude of the last one, for that matter).
In short, it's postulated that a "snowball Earth" occured approximately 600-700 million years ago (shortly before the Cambrian explosion) where glacial ice spaned from the polar regions to the equator. Several theories have emerged to explain this but they all revolve around the idea that something happened to cool the Earth (e.g. severe drops in the levels of greenhouse gasses) which lead to more land being exposed which in turn lead to a lessened absorption on solar radiation which lead to even lower temperatures, more land being exposed, even less solar radiation, etc, etc, etc.
Seriously though, I don't think we fully understand the role that natural forces such as tectonics, volcanism, and global weather patterns play in the Earth's climate. While it's pretty obvious that polluting the atmosphere is a Bad Thing, our contribution is probably just a drop in the bucket.
Besides, even if we do screw things up so badly that we suffocate ourselves, the Earth has shown a remarkable resiliency in it's geologic past. In a couple million years, things will be pretty much back to normal and the race of uber intelligent cockroaches will be wondering how these silly bipedal organisms in the fossil record went extinct.;-)
It doesn't render correctly on my Zaurus (running OpenZaurus 3.2) under Opera 6. I see everything from about the midpoint of the page to the right edge and then about 3 miles of grey nothingness. Everything to the left is missing... I can't even scroll to it.
There are standards for a reason, you no talent.com.com.com.com ass clowns! >:o
Following Wil's example, I've translated this letter back into its native tongue. It sheds a whole new light on who this "Darl" person really is.:-)
By Darl McBride
Page 1 of 1
TEH MOST CONTROV3RSIAL ISUA IN TEH INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY INDUSTRY 2DAY IS TEH ONGONG BATLE OV3R R COPYRIGHTS AND INT3LECTUAL PROPARTY!11!11! LOL THIS BATL3 IS BNG FOUGHT LARGELY BTWEN V3NDORS WHO CRAAET AND S3L PROPREITARY SOFTWAER AND TEH OPEN SOURC3 COMUNITY1!11!!11 OMG LOL MAH COMPANY TEH SCO GROUP BCME A FOCUS OF THIS CONTROVARSY WHEN WE FIELD A LAWSUIT AGANEST IBM ALEGNG TAHT SCO'S PROPREITARY UNIX CODE HAS BAN ILAGALY COPEID IN2 TEH FRE LINUX OPARATNG SYSTAM1!11 OMG WTF IN DONG THIS WE ANGAR3D SOM3 IN TEH OPEN SOURCE COMUNITY BY POINTNG OUT OBVIOUS INT3LECTUAL PROPERTY PROBLEMS TAHT 3XIST IN TEH CURENT LINUX R D3V3LOPMENT MOD3L
THIS!111 OMG WTF LOL D3BAET ABOUT OPAN SOURC3 R IS H3ALTHY AND BN3FICIAL1!11!!1 OMG LOL IT OFARS LONG-TARM BN3FITS 2 DA INDUSTRY BY ADR3SNG A NU BUSIENS MODAL IN ADVANCA OF WIED-SCAEL ADOPTION BY CUS2MERS!!11!!1 WTF LOL BUT IN DA LAST WEK OF AUGUST TWO DEV3LOPM3NTS OCUR3D TAHT ADVARS3LY AFECT TEH LONG-TERM CREDIBILITY OF DA OP3N SOURCE COMUNITY WIT TEH G3N3RAL PUBLIC AND WIT CUS2MERS1!1!! WTF LOL
TEH FIRST D3VELOPMENT FOLOWAD ANOTH3R SEREIS OF D3NIAL OF SERVIEC (DOS) ATAKS ON SCO WHICH 2K PLAEC TWO WEKS AGO!1!11! WTF THESA WAR3 DA SACOND AND THIRD SUCH ATAKS IN FOUR MONTHS AND HAEV PR3VANTED WEB US3RS FROM ACASNG OUR WEB SIET AND DONG BUSIENS WIT SCO11!! OMG WTF LOL THEIR IS NO QU3STION ABOUT DA AFILIATION OF TEH ATAKER - OP3N SOURCE L3AEDR ERIC RAYMOND WAS QUOT3D AS SAYNG TAHT HE WAS CONTACTED BY DA PERPETRA2R AND TAHT "HA'S ON3 OF US"111! WTF LOL 2 MR RAYMOND'S PARTIAL CR3DIT HA ASKED DA ATAK3R 2 S2P!1!1 LOL HOW3VER HA HAS YET 2 DISCLOSE TEH IEDNTITY OF DA PERPATRA2R SO TAHT JUSTIEC CAN B DON3!!!!!!1! LOL
NO ONA CAN 2L3RAET DOS ATAKS AND OTHER KINDS OF ATAKS IN THIS INFORMATION AEG MAH TAHT RELEIS SO H3AVILY ON DA INTARNAT1!!!!1!1 OMG MR RAYMOND AND TEH ANTIER OPAN SOURCE COMUNITY NED 2 AGR3SIEVLY HELP DA INDUSTRY POLIEC THAS3 TYPES OF CRIEMS11!!!!1 OMG WTF IF THEY FALE 2 DO SO IT CASTS A SHADOW OVER TEH ENTIER OPAN SOURCE MOVAMANT AND RASEES QU3STIONS ABOUT WHATHER OP3N SOURC3 IS READY 2 TAEK A C3NTRAL ROL3 IN BUSIENS COMPUTNG1111 OMG LOL WE CANOT HAEV A SITUATION IN WHICH COMPANEIS F3AR THEY MAY B NAXT 2 SUF3R COMPUTAR ATAKS IF TH3Y TAEK A BUSIENS OR L3GAL POSITION TAHT ANG3RS DA OP3N SOURCE COMUNITY!!!1!1!! OMG WTF UNTIL TH3SA ILEGAL ATAKS R BROUGHT UNDER CONTROL ENTERPRIES CUS2MERS AND MANESTRAM SOCEITY WIL BCOMA INCR3ASNGLY ALEINAETD FROM ANYON3 ASOCIAETD WIT THIS TYP3 OF TEH!!11 OMG WTF LOL
SACOND DEVELOPMENT WAS AN ADMISION BY OPEN SOURC3 L3AEDR BRUCA P3R3NS TAHT UNIX SYST3M V CODE (OWN3D BY SCO) IS IN FACT IN LINUX AND IT SHUDN'T B THEIR1!1111! OMG WTF MR P3R3NS STAETD TAHT THEYRE IS "AN 3ROR IN DA LINUX D3VALOPAR'S PROC3S" WHICH ALOWAD UNIX SYST3M V COD3 TAHT "DIDN'T BLONG IN LINUX" 2 END UP IN DA LINUX K3RNAL (SOURCA COMPUTERWIER AUGUST 25 203)!111!11 OMG LOL MR PERENS CONTINUED WIT A STRNG OF ARGUMANTS 2 JUSTIFY TEH "3ROR IN DA LINUX DEV3LOP3R'S PROC3S"1!!1!1!! WTF LOL HOW3VAR NOTHNG CAN CHANGE TEH FACT TAHT A LINUX D3V3LOPAR ON DA PAYROL OF SILICON GRAPHICS STRIP3D COPYRIGHT ATRIBUTIONS FROM COPYRIGHTED SYSTEM V COD3 TAHT WAS LIECNSED 2 SILICON GRAPHICS UNDER STRICT CONDITIONS OF USA AND THEN CONTRIBUTAD TAHT SOURCE COD3 2 LINUX AS THOUGH IT WAS CL3AN CODA OWN3D AND CONTROLAD BY SGI!!1!!! WTF THIS IS A CL3AR VIOLATION OF SGI'S CONTRACT AND COPYRIGHT OBLIGATIONS 2 SCO11!!!1!1 WTF LOL W3 R CUR3NTLY WORKNG 2 TRY AND R3SOLV3 THESA ISUES WIT SGI
THIS!!11! WTF LOL IMPROPER CONTRIBUTION OF UNIX CODA BY SGI IN2 LINUX IS ONE SMAL EXMPLA TAHT R3VEALS FUNDMENTAL STRUCTURAL FLAWS IN TEH LINUX DEVELOPMANT PROCES1!!! WTF LOL IN FACT THIS ISUE GO3S 2 TEH V3RY H3ART OF WH3THER OPEN SOURCA CAN B TRUST3D AS
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Darl's head must be spinning so fast that he doesn't know which way is up any more. Several scattered thoughts come to mind, among them "chutzpah", "pump and dump", and "someone's going to jail when this is all over." I think he is just going to replace the 'offending' code with a big ASCII middle finger. Ok, I'll stop now.
Wow... Ask Slashdot really came through this time. Answering the recent Ask Slashdot, the pictures below show how the pros store their "parts". I hope you're paying attention, OriginalSpaceMan.:-)
The investigation also found plant computer engineering personnel were unaware of a security patch that prevented the worm from working.
Now I hate to deride any of my fellow IT workers but does Davis-Besse employ trained monkeys to run their network? Seriously. In addition to being plastered all over Slashdot and every IT news site in the known universe, it was covered extensively on all the major news networks. That's incompetence folks, plain and simple.
News like this (not to mention the actions of SCO, the RIAA/MPAA keiretsu, and the degredation of freedom in the US through the DMCA, PATRIOT I/II acts, et al.) makes me want to move to the most remote tropical island in the world and set up a benevolent technocracy. Who's with me?:-)
This opens up a whole new world of "your mom" jokes... "Your mom weighs as much as a cloud." How many people are gonna be able to figure that one out?:-D
You said that the requests are unreasonable. From that I'm guessing you mean you couldn't plan for them. If this is true, they probably weren't in the original contract. Just tell them how much extra it's going to cost them.
Money is universal. Once you put something in terms of dollars and cents (or Euros, or Yen, or whatever), both your management and the customer will understand. Most of the time the phrase "This isn't in the contract" or "It'll cost extra" will be enough to scare a customer away for awhile.
Dr. Evil: or perhaps we can make robots that interfere with the loading of web pages. They disallow access so we can all it a "denial of service" attack.. we will bring the world to its knees...
Scott: Uhhh... dad... that's already been done... they're called "slashbots" and its called the "slashdot effect"...
If you used an old CD or DVD drive you could build a robot with a "la-zer". You could then hold the world ransom for one million...errr...biiiillllion dollars. Muuuuah ha ha ha... muuuuuah ha ha ha...
Sorry for this post and the parent. I accidently modded someone incorrectly (a negative mod instead of a positive one:( )... I posted the above to undo the moderation.
Moderators, please disregard this post and the parent. Thanks!
Now we have frikken astronauts beating up on poor anonymous software developpers... quoth the article
There was also the real possibility of crew error, and on Sunday, the head of the corporation that builds and operates the Soyuz spacecraft, Yuriy Semyonov, suggested that "one of the Americans" had pushed the backup-mode activation button. Bowersox was the only American who had any active role in the descent (it was astronaut Donald Pettit's job to follow the checklists), and he denied touching the button -- which, he joked, was being guarded carefully by Russian cosmonaut Nikolai Budarin. "We don't think we did anything to cause that to happen," he later said to a NASA press official.
Yeah... right... if I had a nickle for every time I heard an end user say something similar to that ("I swear I didn't touch anything... it just... crashed..." or "The files just... disappeared! Gone! Disappeared! I didn't do anything!") I'd have...well...a lot of nickles...
/me mumbles bittlerly and goes back into his development hole:P
Why is everyone so hung up on this 1st to land outside the US thing? Does it really matter? It's just CNN's way of saying "Hey guys! Look! This story is special and out of the ordinary you should go read it RIGHT NOW!"
It's a gimmick -- a ploy. That's all.
Please note: I'm not calling the landing itself a ploy or gimmick nor am I deriding the accomplishments of the astronauts. I'm just saying that you see that line repeated over and over again because it's CNN's way of hyping the story.
This proves that life can survive a fiery impact with the earth -- like that of a meteor impact. On top of that, it's not even a single celled organism... even though these things are as small as pencil lead, they are somewhat organized multicellular organisms.
I would think this might add a little bit more credibility to the people who think life originated in somewhere other than Earth.
I'm aware of dejanews but, for some reason, I never found it as useful as google (although didn't google create google groups after buying dejanews?).
Maybe I'm biased because I like google's clean and non-obtrusive interface -- I recall dejanews's ads were rather obtrusive. Maybe I just like google's color scheme more. Maybe google's results are better. Maybe google engineers have been sneaking mind controlling drugs into my frosted flakes for the past few years.::shrug::
In any case, you're right. Dejanews was first. But I personally didn't like it.
Especially since the advent of google groups. It makes it much easier to find past posts. This gives news groups a much longer memory and, in theory, should prevent repetitive posts.
In addition, it makes USENET an extremely effective support venue. Whenever I have an unexplained error or problem with one of my machines, I just search groups.google.com and more often than not, I find that someone has had the same exact problem that I'm experiencing.
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Ok, I'll bite. I don't get it.
I've developed several medium-sized projects using OO languages interfacing with a RDBMS. One used MSSQL, one used Oracle, and a couple used MySQL. (Just to be a bit more precise, by medium-sized I mean a few tens of thousand lines of code and up to 50 concurrent users per location to which the application is deployed.) I've never seen a "rough courtship with Relational database" or a problem with "OO-to-RDBMS complexity" and I would not call developing OO applications that interface with SQL databases "tedious".
Secondly, the incompatibilities can easily be addressed by creating a database connection class. The SQL implementation aren't so different that you can't pass the implementation name (i.e. MSSQL, ORA, MYSQL, etc.) to the constructor or add some #ifdefs (or the equivalent) in appropriate places and pass the right implementation-specific SQL based on that. If you do it well enough, you can reuse this class across projects. At least SQL is somewhat standardized (haha, I know). By using Prevayler (which sounds like it's some 12 year old AOLer's screen name, btw), you're locked in to one vendor. What if, for example, I have a client who can't/won't run this software? There are enough SQL variants to make pretty much anyone happy with the platform.
The poster talks about a lot of high-caliber hacks... if a developer understands the purpose of an RDBMS was supposed to do, they wouldn't need to resort to "hacks" (I was expecting an example or some useful supporting information from the poster's link... unfortunately, I was sadly mistaken). An RDBMS is a way of storing and retrieving data. The implementation of the RDBMS should have no impact on the design of a program. If it makes an OO-zealot feel warm and fuzzy, they can just think of the entire RDBMS as a giant object sitting off in never-ever land with connect and query methods (at the most basic level at least).
Lastly, I see a lot of hot air on the Prevayler website. Things talking about freedom from query languages, support of any algorith, etc. They don't seem to have a lot of information on these statement. They don't say exactly how data is stored. They seem to claim that Prevayler will organize your data in the most optimal fashion since they seem to think DBAs are evil people who, for no reason whatsoever, come up with wicked database designs intended to make developers miserable. They don't say exactly how they store data. These kind of omissions scare me. I don't trust projects just because theyre open source. (Note: If this information is available, it wasn't obvious. Even if these guys are the most awesome OO developers ever, they suck at presenting information).
What is the big deal here? Seriously... I'm just not seeing the problem.
I'm sorry if something like this has been posted before but I really didn't see anything covering these questions. Also, if it sounds like I'm a bit mean in this post, it's because as I was writing the post, I tried to answer my own questions through the Prevayler website but was unable to find any useful information -- in fact, I ended up with more unanswered questions than I started with. In short, zealotry combined with lack of information makes me an unhappy camper.
I, too, spent some time with geology and I prefer the "pack up the coastal cities scenario" to the "Snowball Earth" scenario (or even an ice age on the magnitude of the last one, for that matter).
In short, it's postulated that a "snowball Earth" occured approximately 600-700 million years ago (shortly before the Cambrian explosion) where glacial ice spaned from the polar regions to the equator. Several theories have emerged to explain this but they all revolve around the idea that something happened to cool the Earth (e.g. severe drops in the levels of greenhouse gasses) which lead to more land being exposed which in turn lead to a lessened absorption on solar radiation which lead to even lower temperatures, more land being exposed, even less solar radiation, etc, etc, etc.
Seriously though, I don't think we fully understand the role that natural forces such as tectonics, volcanism, and global weather patterns play in the Earth's climate. While it's pretty obvious that polluting the atmosphere is a Bad Thing, our contribution is probably just a drop in the bucket.
Besides, even if we do screw things up so badly that we suffocate ourselves, the Earth has shown a remarkable resiliency in it's geologic past. In a couple million years, things will be pretty much back to normal and the race of uber intelligent cockroaches will be wondering how these silly bipedal organisms in the fossil record went extinct. ;-)
the return to "normal" behaviour when rescue arrives
You ruined the ending, you insensitive clod! :-P
It doesn't render correctly on my Zaurus (running OpenZaurus 3.2) under Opera 6. I see everything from about the midpoint of the page to the right edge and then about 3 miles of grey nothingness. Everything to the left is missing... I can't even scroll to it.
There are standards for a reason, you no talent .com.com.com.com ass clowns! >:o
Thoughts or opinions, anyone?
They're only 2 years old.
Asking for "thoughts and opinions" on Slashdot is just begging for heaps and mounds of misinformation. I figured I'd just add my fair share. :P
Following Wil's example, I've translated this letter back into its native tongue. It sheds a whole new light on who this "Darl" person really is. :-)
By Darl McBride
Page 1 of 1
TEH MOST CONTROV3RSIAL ISUA IN TEH INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY INDUSTRY 2DAY IS TEH ONGONG BATLE OV3R R COPYRIGHTS AND INT3LECTUAL PROPARTY!11!11! LOL THIS BATL3 IS BNG FOUGHT LARGELY BTWEN V3NDORS WHO CRAAET AND S3L PROPREITARY SOFTWAER AND TEH OPEN SOURC3 COMUNITY1!11!!11 OMG LOL MAH COMPANY TEH SCO GROUP BCME A FOCUS OF THIS CONTROVARSY WHEN WE FIELD A LAWSUIT AGANEST IBM ALEGNG TAHT SCO'S PROPREITARY UNIX CODE HAS BAN ILAGALY COPEID IN2 TEH FRE LINUX OPARATNG SYSTAM1!11 OMG WTF IN DONG THIS WE ANGAR3D SOM3 IN TEH OPEN SOURCE COMUNITY BY POINTNG OUT OBVIOUS INT3LECTUAL PROPERTY PROBLEMS TAHT 3XIST IN TEH CURENT LINUX R D3V3LOPMENT MOD3L
THIS!111 OMG WTF LOL D3BAET ABOUT OPAN SOURC3 R IS H3ALTHY AND BN3FICIAL1!11!!1 OMG LOL IT OFARS LONG-TARM BN3FITS 2 DA INDUSTRY BY ADR3SNG A NU BUSIENS MODAL IN ADVANCA OF WIED-SCAEL ADOPTION BY CUS2MERS!!11!!1 WTF LOL BUT IN DA LAST WEK OF AUGUST TWO DEV3LOPM3NTS OCUR3D TAHT ADVARS3LY AFECT TEH LONG-TERM CREDIBILITY OF DA OP3N SOURCE COMUNITY WIT TEH G3N3RAL PUBLIC AND WIT CUS2MERS1!1!! WTF LOL
TEH FIRST D3VELOPMENT FOLOWAD ANOTH3R SEREIS OF D3NIAL OF SERVIEC (DOS) ATAKS ON SCO WHICH 2K PLAEC TWO WEKS AGO!1!11! WTF THESA WAR3 DA SACOND AND THIRD SUCH ATAKS IN FOUR MONTHS AND HAEV PR3VANTED WEB US3RS FROM ACASNG OUR WEB SIET AND DONG BUSIENS WIT SCO11!! OMG WTF LOL THEIR IS NO QU3STION ABOUT DA AFILIATION OF TEH ATAKER - OP3N SOURCE L3AEDR ERIC RAYMOND WAS QUOT3D AS SAYNG TAHT HE WAS CONTACTED BY DA PERPETRA2R AND TAHT "HA'S ON3 OF US"111! WTF LOL 2 MR RAYMOND'S PARTIAL CR3DIT HA ASKED DA ATAK3R 2 S2P!1!1 LOL HOW3VER HA HAS YET 2 DISCLOSE TEH IEDNTITY OF DA PERPATRA2R SO TAHT JUSTIEC CAN B DON3!!!!!!1! LOL
NO ONA CAN 2L3RAET DOS ATAKS AND OTHER KINDS OF ATAKS IN THIS INFORMATION AEG MAH TAHT RELEIS SO H3AVILY ON DA INTARNAT1!!!!1!1 OMG MR RAYMOND AND TEH ANTIER OPAN SOURCE COMUNITY NED 2 AGR3SIEVLY HELP DA INDUSTRY POLIEC THAS3 TYPES OF CRIEMS11!!!!1 OMG WTF IF THEY FALE 2 DO SO IT CASTS A SHADOW OVER TEH ENTIER OPAN SOURCE MOVAMANT AND RASEES QU3STIONS ABOUT WHATHER OP3N SOURC3 IS READY 2 TAEK A C3NTRAL ROL3 IN BUSIENS COMPUTNG1111 OMG LOL WE CANOT HAEV A SITUATION IN WHICH COMPANEIS F3AR THEY MAY B NAXT 2 SUF3R COMPUTAR ATAKS IF TH3Y TAEK A BUSIENS OR L3GAL POSITION TAHT ANG3RS DA OP3N SOURCE COMUNITY!!!1!1!! OMG WTF UNTIL TH3SA ILEGAL ATAKS R BROUGHT UNDER CONTROL ENTERPRIES CUS2MERS AND MANESTRAM SOCEITY WIL BCOMA INCR3ASNGLY ALEINAETD FROM ANYON3 ASOCIAETD WIT THIS TYP3 OF TEH!!11 OMG WTF LOL
SACOND DEVELOPMENT WAS AN ADMISION BY OPEN SOURC3 L3AEDR BRUCA P3R3NS TAHT UNIX SYST3M V CODE (OWN3D BY SCO) IS IN FACT IN LINUX AND IT SHUDN'T B THEIR1!1111! OMG WTF MR P3R3NS STAETD TAHT THEYRE IS "AN 3ROR IN DA LINUX D3VALOPAR'S PROC3S" WHICH ALOWAD UNIX SYST3M V COD3 TAHT "DIDN'T BLONG IN LINUX" 2 END UP IN DA LINUX K3RNAL (SOURCA COMPUTERWIER AUGUST 25 203)!111!11 OMG LOL MR PERENS CONTINUED WIT A STRNG OF ARGUMANTS 2 JUSTIFY TEH "3ROR IN DA LINUX DEV3LOP3R'S PROC3S"1!!1!1!! WTF LOL HOW3VAR NOTHNG CAN CHANGE TEH FACT TAHT A LINUX D3V3LOPAR ON DA PAYROL OF SILICON GRAPHICS STRIP3D COPYRIGHT ATRIBUTIONS FROM COPYRIGHTED SYSTEM V COD3 TAHT WAS LIECNSED 2 SILICON GRAPHICS UNDER STRICT CONDITIONS OF USA AND THEN CONTRIBUTAD TAHT SOURCE COD3 2 LINUX AS THOUGH IT WAS CL3AN CODA OWN3D AND CONTROLAD BY SGI!!1!!! WTF THIS IS A CL3AR VIOLATION OF SGI'S CONTRACT AND COPYRIGHT OBLIGATIONS 2 SCO11!!!1!1 WTF LOL W3 R CUR3NTLY WORKNG 2 TRY AND R3SOLV3 THESA ISUES WIT SGI
THIS!!11! WTF LOL IMPROPER CONTRIBUTION OF UNIX CODA BY SGI IN2 LINUX IS ONE SMAL EXMPLA TAHT R3VEALS FUNDMENTAL STRUCTURAL FLAWS IN TEH LINUX DEVELOPMANT PROCES1!!! WTF LOL IN FACT THIS ISUE GO3S 2 TEH V3RY H3ART OF WH3THER OPEN SOURCA CAN B TRUST3D AS
Darl's head must be spinning so fast that he doesn't know which way is up any more. Several scattered thoughts come to mind, among them "chutzpah", "pump and dump", and "someone's going to jail when this is all over." I think he is just going to replace the 'offending' code with a big ASCII middle finger. Ok, I'll stop now.
This Comment was generated with the Comment-O-Matic for SCO Stories.
Wow... Ask Slashdot really came through this time. Answering the recent Ask Slashdot, the pictures below show how the pros store their "parts". I hope you're paying attention, OriginalSpaceMan. :-)
The investigation also found plant computer engineering personnel were unaware of a security patch that prevented the worm from working.
Now I hate to deride any of my fellow IT workers but does Davis-Besse employ trained monkeys to run their network? Seriously. In addition to being plastered all over Slashdot and every IT news site in the known universe, it was covered extensively on all the major news networks. That's incompetence folks, plain and simple.
News like this (not to mention the actions of SCO, the RIAA/MPAA keiretsu, and the degredation of freedom in the US through the DMCA, PATRIOT I/II acts, et al.) makes me want to move to the most remote tropical island in the world and set up a benevolent technocracy. Who's with me? :-)
forty rods to the hogshead... and that's just the way I like it!
This opens up a whole new world of "your mom" jokes... "Your mom weighs as much as a cloud." How many people are gonna be able to figure that one out? :-D
cost.
You said that the requests are unreasonable. From that I'm guessing you mean you couldn't plan for them. If this is true, they probably weren't in the original contract. Just tell them how much extra it's going to cost them.
Money is universal. Once you put something in terms of dollars and cents (or Euros, or Yen, or whatever), both your management and the customer will understand. Most of the time the phrase "This isn't in the contract" or "It'll cost extra" will be enough to scare a customer away for awhile.
I wonder if the systems at the power plants had DCOM enabled.... :-)
LINUX FOR THE NUKES!!!
What about the following as a response to OAACPLA:
KAPLA - a Klingon Attacked my Provider of Legal Advice
Appropriate context:
Slashbot 1: How do I GPL my file sharing application in such a way that the RIAA and SCO won't sue me?
Slashbot 2: OAACPLA
Slashbot 1: KAPLA
Slashbot 2: At least he died like a warrior... with honor! To Sto-vo-kor!
Slashbot 1: Ummm.... great... now what do I do about this application?
Dr. Evil: or perhaps we can make robots that interfere with the loading of web pages. They disallow access so we can all it a "denial of service" attack.. we will bring the world to its knees...
Scott: Uhhh... dad... that's already been done... they're called "slashbots" and its called the "slashdot effect"...
Me: I can't get to the site... can ya tell? :-D
If you used an old CD or DVD drive you could build a robot with a "la-zer". You could then hold the world ransom for one million...errr...biiiillllion dollars. Muuuuah ha ha ha... muuuuuah ha ha ha...
Sorry for this post and the parent. I accidently modded someone incorrectly (a negative mod instead of a positive one :( )... I posted the above to undo the moderation.
Moderators, please disregard this post and the parent. Thanks!
test.
Now we have frikken astronauts beating up on poor anonymous software developpers... quoth the article
Yeah... right... if I had a nickle for every time I heard an end user say something similar to that ("I swear I didn't touch anything... it just... crashed..." or "The files just... disappeared! Gone! Disappeared! I didn't do anything!") I'd have...well...a lot of nickles...
/me mumbles bittlerly and goes back into his development hole :P
Why is everyone so hung up on this 1st to land outside the US thing? Does it really matter? It's just CNN's way of saying "Hey guys! Look! This story is special and out of the ordinary you should go read it RIGHT NOW!"
It's a gimmick -- a ploy. That's all.
Please note: I'm not calling the landing itself a ploy or gimmick nor am I deriding the accomplishments of the astronauts. I'm just saying that you see that line repeated over and over again because it's CNN's way of hyping the story.
What's a nubian? ;-)
This proves that life can survive a fiery impact with the earth -- like that of a meteor impact. On top of that, it's not even a single celled organism... even though these things are as small as pencil lead, they are somewhat organized multicellular organisms.
I would think this might add a little bit more credibility to the people who think life originated in somewhere other than Earth.
I'm aware of dejanews but, for some reason, I never found it as useful as google (although didn't google create google groups after buying dejanews?).
Maybe I'm biased because I like google's clean and non-obtrusive interface -- I recall dejanews's ads were rather obtrusive. Maybe I just like google's color scheme more. Maybe google's results are better. Maybe google engineers have been sneaking mind controlling drugs into my frosted flakes for the past few years. ::shrug::
In any case, you're right. Dejanews was first. But I personally didn't like it.
Especially since the advent of google groups. It makes it much easier to find past posts. This gives news groups a much longer memory and, in theory, should prevent repetitive posts.
In addition, it makes USENET an extremely effective support venue. Whenever I have an unexplained error or problem with one of my machines, I just search groups.google.com and more often than not, I find that someone has had the same exact problem that I'm experiencing.Crap... I think I clicked the "read more" link and ended up back in 1996... A few words from the future (April of 2003):
All in all things aren't that different in the future :-P