I hope you're freaking joking. That "waste" you're talking about is generally used on site for power production here in "Canada." There hasn't been top soil here most of northern Ontario, and anywhere mid-north of the prairie provinces sometimes further south since the last GLACIAL period 10,000 years ago. It's in southern Ontario, the US midwest and a large part of Michigan.
Simple. It costs more energy to recycle paper than it does to grow new trees for the use in wood and paper products. To recycle you need to, bleach, skim, decontaminate, treat, mash, mix, repulp, then make new. Plus using waste paper as mulching and mixed with other biomaterials works wonders. I mean those of us who live in the north have been doing this for nearly a 100 years, more so when there isn't any damn topsoil.
Considering we're now seeing companies turn around and simply trying to remove your rights by ToS and EULA I'm sure this will work well. See EA, AT&T and Sony.
Considering it's illegal pretty much everywhere to do this except the US if you're going to go that route. All someone would have to do, is make a proxy route via VPN and then state "I was here" and accepted it from this location.
I mean the music industry sure does seem to take stock in IP addresses as the beginning and end doesn't it?
Works the other way too - go back a little, and you'll find a time when Christians were happily going around torturing and burning heretics, launching holy wars and burning books. Religions change. Sometimes they get more aggressive, sometimes less.
Sure and I pointed this out, in the post. Here's the difference. The people stood up and cast out the orthodoxy, and religious figureheads in christianity relegating them to the dustbin because they were too extreme for their age. In Islam, there's currently no chance of this because one there's active theocracies, two there's active theocracies spreading and these theocracies actively support the most archaic forms of laws. Three, in those both cases the governments recognize that there *is* no higher law than their good book and anything they do is sanctioned by it.
That includes silting your throat from ear to ear, you filthy infidel.
It's one of those odd things. And it's actually covered at least in the various writings that you should treat your neighbor as yourself and all that. Remember that Christianity and Judaism(much like in other world religions) have both had reformations. And in those cases, during the reformations there was a lot of infighting, doctrinal wars, and all that. With and without blood being shed, and in the end. You had your hangers on to the old ways, you had your splits, and you had those that said 'screw this' and ignored all the stuff that didn't make sense in the modern day. But still like the core message in the book(s).
So moving on, for the majority of Christians, if you do something like oh...lets go with the old cross in a container of piss. Most will say that it's distasteful. Some will mock it, you'll get the occasional nut that will attack it.
For Muslims, an image you'll see riots around the world. You mock or use the Muhammed or anything like that in that context you'll see riots, fatwa's, cries of religious leaders calling for blood. Suicide bombings, and so on.
But just remember up until recently and recent being about the last 70ish years, depicting Muhammed, and using his name and all the rest was just fine, though there was some provisions. They were still using him on postcards in Persia in the 1920's. It wasn't until they were caught up with the whole blow back with Amin Al Husseini and his clusterfuck with the Ottomans and using Islam beside Nazism that it became a verboten topic.
Yeah that about sums it up. Then again why would think progress actually give a rats ass about anything factual instead of trying to spin it into LOOK EVIL CAPITALISTS!!!!!11! Instead of well there may actually be a filtering problem. Couldn't be because they're you're atypical leftie front group or anything. I mean this is pretty below the norm for them. Usually they're screaming about evil Jews, and the evil Koch brothers and shit like that.
The problem is, is that banks use a closed pair system. And it's propritary. The 'chip' system that's going into use in north america and in other places? Eh? Broken. The rfid stuff? Broken. Most of it is still in the deployment phase and all that still. The real problem is, is information security for most financial, not to mention businesses is look at from a perspective of 20 years ago. That perspective is: Not noteworthy. Meaning until there is something so fucking serious that it shakes the business world to it's knees will it change.
Well governments can make laws over it, that's a bandaid solution. Even when the laws are the sledgehammer or wrecking ball option. Information security is broken that's all there is to it. This is apparent when you have people using things like facebook, and google+ happily handing away the things that can get can ruin them well forever.
Yes because we all know that even if some lawyer whipping out his dick and hoping that if he pisses all over everything it automatically makes it "in the US" it applies everywhere. That the 'services and conditions' apply too. Sorry the real world doesn't work that way. ToS, one sided contracts, and 'fine print clauses' where the party does not have them clearly explained and defined or they are switched are illegal in Canada, and in Germany too, and in the EU. And in some parts of the US, they have "clear contract" laws.
True enough on that. I'm quite happy with my saturn. Most Canadians that own one are, though oddly most Americans who own one are hit or miss. I could never figure out why. We love them here. If they hadn't closed them down, or sold them off to well shit Penske, or Bombardier or anyone like that I would have kept buying them, even kept buying GM.
But the second they killed the line you ran across a lot of hardcore saturn folks who swore they would never buy another GM product even if hell froze over and they were the only thing keeping them from death and life. Of course GM has come out with some amazing engines too. The 3800 series is probably the most famous of the modern era, and those are still going strong even will a million miles on them.
Pft. I've still got cassette that have programs on them from the vic20 days. Considering that my only two options are to either recover code that was written down by hand, or hope I can find a working vic20+cassette player then hope that the mylar doesn't come off in gooey chunks.
I've pretty much written it off as unrecoverable data.
In Canada unless it's clearly defined it's a privacy violation to do so. It's also a privacy violation in Germany, and I believe California. Signing up != A business relationship. So marketers take heed. Just because you can do something, and haven't been sued yet. Doesn't mean you won't. It just means that people can't afford to do so, or they don't care enough right now.
I guess a kill/save ratio of 99:1 is an option for last resort because in newkirk's own words "it's the best option to save them from people" She's a nutbar, she's believes groups like ALF are wonderful great people. Including the support of individual who go into highschools to teach kids how to build bombs as acts of 'civil disobedience' right. I dunno I guess back in my day, civil disobedience was something else. Rather than trying to kill or maim someone.
No PETA is evil. The reality is we've only scratched the depths of their depravity and material connections to the 'earth first' type movements.
Not only that but they actively fund domestic terrorists. So no big deal in their books. After all, they believe animals have more intrinsic value than you, or me, or that baby of yours, mine, or anyone elses that could be saved using a vaccine. Or stem cell treatment, or heart valve replacement or hell even insulin.
I'll let you think about why what I said, and what the GP said. And how it relates. Simply because you didn't understand it. Doesn't mean it doesn't apply. You know, much like how your inane post which had no coherence to the thread at all.
I guess someone hasn't been paying attention to what's been going on in SE-Asia and Europe and therefore the realities of the world. And in turn, are actually "right wing" radio. Well I guess living in ignorance is just a fine dandy thing, or the that a modern system can come crashing down in the fantasy system of tribal dynamics.
I suppose you could always travel the world, which might do you better.
Right. Because we all know that if you were a Jew or Israeli, you could easily walk into Israel. But if you walked into Saudi Arabia, you'd automatically be arrested and tossed into prison to be tortured. If you were a women, you'd be tortured and raped. And if we were in egypt and you were a reporter forget the possibility of being safe. You'd be raped, beaten and raped some more.
Antisemitism is the norm in the middle east and has been for the last 2000 years, because it's the norm in Islam. And if you can't figure out that islam is a political system as in and as much a religious system you're doomed at understanding what's going on.
Really? So we demand that someone has to demonstrate that they have knowledge and can apply to group think, by turning around and blocking everyone from having the ability to view knowledge that they're already paying for. And for those that do study various subjects on their own time, and are learned in them, we should still ensure that they're part of the group-think set.
Good job. Yep. Just because someone doesn't have that bit of paper hanging on the wall, doesn't mean that they're not learned in a field or area of expertise. It means they're a laymen. And that layman can still have a better grasp of a subject when they've worked outside the box. And that's elitism.
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I hope you're freaking joking. That "waste" you're talking about is generally used on site for power production here in "Canada." There hasn't been top soil here most of northern Ontario, and anywhere mid-north of the prairie provinces sometimes further south since the last GLACIAL period 10,000 years ago. It's in southern Ontario, the US midwest and a large part of Michigan.
Because in a lot of places outside of the US doing this is illegal. As in a federal crime illegal, with jail time and very steep fines.
Simple. It costs more energy to recycle paper than it does to grow new trees for the use in wood and paper products. To recycle you need to, bleach, skim, decontaminate, treat, mash, mix, repulp, then make new. Plus using waste paper as mulching and mixed with other biomaterials works wonders. I mean those of us who live in the north have been doing this for nearly a 100 years, more so when there isn't any damn topsoil.
Considering we're now seeing companies turn around and simply trying to remove your rights by ToS and EULA I'm sure this will work well. See EA, AT&T and Sony.
Considering it's illegal pretty much everywhere to do this except the US if you're going to go that route. All someone would have to do, is make a proxy route via VPN and then state "I was here" and accepted it from this location.
I mean the music industry sure does seem to take stock in IP addresses as the beginning and end doesn't it?
*Zing* I guess you have no idea how courts, or law work.
Up next we'll see indictment's by pedobear.
Works the other way too - go back a little, and you'll find a time when Christians were happily going around torturing and burning heretics, launching holy wars and burning books. Religions change. Sometimes they get more aggressive, sometimes less.
Sure and I pointed this out, in the post. Here's the difference. The people stood up and cast out the orthodoxy, and religious figureheads in christianity relegating them to the dustbin because they were too extreme for their age. In Islam, there's currently no chance of this because one there's active theocracies, two there's active theocracies spreading and these theocracies actively support the most archaic forms of laws. Three, in those both cases the governments recognize that there *is* no higher law than their good book and anything they do is sanctioned by it.
That includes silting your throat from ear to ear, you filthy infidel.
Of course...wait no. You're a filthy pirate...
It's one of those odd things. And it's actually covered at least in the various writings that you should treat your neighbor as yourself and all that. Remember that Christianity and Judaism(much like in other world religions) have both had reformations. And in those cases, during the reformations there was a lot of infighting, doctrinal wars, and all that. With and without blood being shed, and in the end. You had your hangers on to the old ways, you had your splits, and you had those that said 'screw this' and ignored all the stuff that didn't make sense in the modern day. But still like the core message in the book(s).
So moving on, for the majority of Christians, if you do something like oh...lets go with the old cross in a container of piss. Most will say that it's distasteful. Some will mock it, you'll get the occasional nut that will attack it.
For Muslims, an image you'll see riots around the world. You mock or use the Muhammed or anything like that in that context you'll see riots, fatwa's, cries of religious leaders calling for blood. Suicide bombings, and so on.
But just remember up until recently and recent being about the last 70ish years, depicting Muhammed, and using his name and all the rest was just fine, though there was some provisions. They were still using him on postcards in Persia in the 1920's. It wasn't until they were caught up with the whole blow back with Amin Al Husseini and his clusterfuck with the Ottomans and using Islam beside Nazism that it became a verboten topic.
Ahahaha.
Yeah that about sums it up. Then again why would think progress actually give a rats ass about anything factual instead of trying to spin it into LOOK EVIL CAPITALISTS!!!!!11! Instead of well there may actually be a filtering problem. Couldn't be because they're you're atypical leftie front group or anything. I mean this is pretty below the norm for them. Usually they're screaming about evil Jews, and the evil Koch brothers and shit like that.
The problem is, is that banks use a closed pair system. And it's propritary. The 'chip' system that's going into use in north america and in other places? Eh? Broken. The rfid stuff? Broken. Most of it is still in the deployment phase and all that still. The real problem is, is information security for most financial, not to mention businesses is look at from a perspective of 20 years ago. That perspective is: Not noteworthy. Meaning until there is something so fucking serious that it shakes the business world to it's knees will it change.
Well governments can make laws over it, that's a bandaid solution. Even when the laws are the sledgehammer or wrecking ball option. Information security is broken that's all there is to it. This is apparent when you have people using things like facebook, and google+ happily handing away the things that can get can ruin them well forever.
Yes because we all know that even if some lawyer whipping out his dick and hoping that if he pisses all over everything it automatically makes it "in the US" it applies everywhere. That the 'services and conditions' apply too. Sorry the real world doesn't work that way. ToS, one sided contracts, and 'fine print clauses' where the party does not have them clearly explained and defined or they are switched are illegal in Canada, and in Germany too, and in the EU. And in some parts of the US, they have "clear contract" laws.
True enough on that. I'm quite happy with my saturn. Most Canadians that own one are, though oddly most Americans who own one are hit or miss. I could never figure out why. We love them here. If they hadn't closed them down, or sold them off to well shit Penske, or Bombardier or anyone like that I would have kept buying them, even kept buying GM.
But the second they killed the line you ran across a lot of hardcore saturn folks who swore they would never buy another GM product even if hell froze over and they were the only thing keeping them from death and life. Of course GM has come out with some amazing engines too. The 3800 series is probably the most famous of the modern era, and those are still going strong even will a million miles on them.
Pft. I've still got cassette that have programs on them from the vic20 days. Considering that my only two options are to either recover code that was written down by hand, or hope I can find a working vic20+cassette player then hope that the mylar doesn't come off in gooey chunks.
I've pretty much written it off as unrecoverable data.
In Canada unless it's clearly defined it's a privacy violation to do so. It's also a privacy violation in Germany, and I believe California. Signing up != A business relationship. So marketers take heed. Just because you can do something, and haven't been sued yet. Doesn't mean you won't. It just means that people can't afford to do so, or they don't care enough right now.
I guess a kill/save ratio of 99:1 is an option for last resort because in newkirk's own words "it's the best option to save them from people" She's a nutbar, she's believes groups like ALF are wonderful great people. Including the support of individual who go into highschools to teach kids how to build bombs as acts of 'civil disobedience' right. I dunno I guess back in my day, civil disobedience was something else. Rather than trying to kill or maim someone.
No PETA is evil. The reality is we've only scratched the depths of their depravity and material connections to the 'earth first' type movements.
Yeah pretty much. Then again...welcome to north america. Where Japan and S.Korea were doing this in 2002.
Not only that but they actively fund domestic terrorists. So no big deal in their books. After all, they believe animals have more intrinsic value than you, or me, or that baby of yours, mine, or anyone elses that could be saved using a vaccine. Or stem cell treatment, or heart valve replacement or hell even insulin.
Considering you can train a dog from birth to be a sniffer in under 6mo, I'd say it's going to be cheaper.
I'll let you think about why what I said, and what the GP said. And how it relates. Simply because you didn't understand it. Doesn't mean it doesn't apply. You know, much like how your inane post which had no coherence to the thread at all.
I guess someone hasn't been paying attention to what's been going on in SE-Asia and Europe and therefore the realities of the world. And in turn, are actually "right wing" radio. Well I guess living in ignorance is just a fine dandy thing, or the that a modern system can come crashing down in the fantasy system of tribal dynamics.
I suppose you could always travel the world, which might do you better.
Right. Because we all know that if you were a Jew or Israeli, you could easily walk into Israel. But if you walked into Saudi Arabia, you'd automatically be arrested and tossed into prison to be tortured. If you were a women, you'd be tortured and raped. And if we were in egypt and you were a reporter forget the possibility of being safe. You'd be raped, beaten and raped some more.
Antisemitism is the norm in the middle east and has been for the last 2000 years, because it's the norm in Islam. And if you can't figure out that islam is a political system as in and as much a religious system you're doomed at understanding what's going on.
A lot of us are in the wrong business. The world is full of stupid people, and we could simply tell them to hand us money hand over fist.
Really? So we demand that someone has to demonstrate that they have knowledge and can apply to group think, by turning around and blocking everyone from having the ability to view knowledge that they're already paying for. And for those that do study various subjects on their own time, and are learned in them, we should still ensure that they're part of the group-think set.
Good job. Yep. Just because someone doesn't have that bit of paper hanging on the wall, doesn't mean that they're not learned in a field or area of expertise. It means they're a laymen. And that layman can still have a better grasp of a subject when they've worked outside the box. And that's elitism.