In fact, if they don't provide some kind of live-cd, ala SuSE, they'll completely flop. It's that simple.
Agreed. Why should I bother buying a copy, if I'm a corporate user, when I can demo Linux for free?
If they're not expecting end-user sales, why not make a personal edition available (for $50 or free, either like SuSE's live demo, or totally free), without the Codeweaver plugins and without a couple of other corp-centric features? That way it'll get mindshare, and when my boss (hi!) asks me which Linux we want to standardize on, I can say Xandros.
That being said, best of luck to them - the product should rock. I used CLOS1 for a year and a half, and loved it. It actually put me onto Debian, although I still miss some of the features of CLOS.
For the end user, Xandros should rule. I just wish I could find out without ponying up $100.
Xandros, based off Debian, ships this week. If it's done correctly, it'll offer all the Debian goodness, with an actual ease-of-use for end-users. I am looking forward to it, to see what they've managed to do with Corel Linux.
"Xandros Desktop 1.0. The product, due to be released on September 30, 2002 and available for purchase within three weeks after that date, is built upon Linux kernel 2.4.19, XFree86 4.2, Debian 3.0, Corel LINUX 3.0, and enhanced KDE."
It doesn't actually remember the room. It uses a variation on the wandering drunk pattern, but the practical upshot is it should finish in a couple of hours. Part of why it's so cheap - it doesn't have to "learn the room", you just put it down and walk away. From what I've read on it, the price point is paramount... for $200, I'm damn tempted.
...of geeks. I really wish AOL had put these on CD-Rs or CD-RWs... I think that if you make a buttload of them, it's probably doable. If, everytime you got an AOL disk, you knew you could put another 650 meg on it, would you throw it away? (Maybe). But you'd probably keep them around as spares.
Less manufacturing cost == more room to reduce prices to undercut the competition.
Right... and since they're all doing it, they all have lower costs, which would mean lower prices (which I personally doubt we'll see - they'll keep the prices the same, since they bitch about their margins being so low). So, yes, the price might go down, but since everyone's doing it, it probably doesn't help the company any.
Poster hit it on the nose. Prices won't go down any. This was D-U-M dumb. They say it's to be more competitive, which is a lie - if everyone does it, there's no competitive advantage. All this allows them to do is pocket the money they'd otherwise squirrel away for replacements.
Yes, they make a little more per drive, but this is like that frickin Pizza Hut/Dominos price increase - a hidden price increase.
I think I'll be looking for a different manufacturer of drives (I've had 2 go bad in the past 3 years, none before that). I'm glad my mobo has a RAID controller in it.
1) Why all the hype over a chip that will be slow when it's released? I'll admit, the specs look damn impressive - a 1.6 Power4 single-core has the SpecFP/INT specs of a P4 2.5 (500mhz Bus), but they're not due out for a year, and the 1.6 is expected to be on the high end
2) Why only a single-core?
3) Where's the G5? It looked similarly impressive, a year ago. It still does, according to the Register's leaked spec numbers
4) What's the advantage again of a 64 bit processor? Sure, more RAM. Is it faster? Does it do more? Anyone?
1) Portable device to watch shows on, downloaded from the ReplayTV 2) "we'll use whatever DRM system [Hollywood] ultimately certify" 3) Heavily marketing the Commercial Skip this winter
According to The Register, late last year (http://www.theregus.com/content/archive/22328.htm l)
[supposedly accurate benchmark numbers] GHz 1.2 1.4 1.6 SpecInt2000 987 1151 1340 SpecFP2000 1005 1173 1359 "By comparison, Intel's 2GHz Pentium 4 has recorded SpecInt2000 and SpecFP2000 scores of 656 and 714, respectively, according to www.specbench.org If accurate, the G5 figures are impressive indeed."
I am curious where the G5 is... I had hoped to have heard more about it by now.
I remember this... Divx gold was an abomination. Say your daughter bought a Disney Divx-Gold (Disney was going to go exclusively Divx), and took it to a friend's house. When it was watched over there, a $3 charge would appear on that person's bill, since _their_ player hadn't already paid for it. A real sleazy way to make money off little children - real nice, Eisner.
The original idea had promise (Aside from all the ecological fun with millions of thrown-away disks). Trust greedy bastards to get greedier and totally screw themselves over. Divx: designed by Circuit City and a Law Firm. Does that tell you why it was avoided?
Think of it this way (and a lot of other people have said similarly) - it changes the way you view things. I currently am taking pictures of my house. I get home, drag it over to the computer, pull it out of its case, remove the rubber plug, plug in the usb cable, turn it on, hit the "PC" button, start the application on the PC, tell it to load all the images, and save them to disk. *whew*
Now imagine that this thing comes out, in a nice small form factor. And that devices support it. You leave it in a jacket/ purse/backpack, charging it every couple of weeks (hopefully).
Provided the software is good enough (always the key), I would take pictures with my digital camera, and they'd be saved (via BT) on the drive. I get home, all I have to do is hang my coat somewhere near a BT receiver, and have it sync. None of those steps now apply. I decide to listen to some music, I use something like Musicmatch/iTunes to move it over there. Take something like the PalmPilot's keyboard, marry it with some sort of LCD (or glasses, etc), and there's your ultraportable. Hell, have TiVo save things to it on demand - now I can go to a friend's house with an episode of (tv show) and watch it en masse. Only catch on some of these is speed.
Ideally, instead of a "Bluetooth Backpack", this would be solid state, hardened, about the size of a credit card, and I'd have it in my wallet. Or if it was small enough (again, solid state, or just higher tech - how much do those USB keys hold?), on my keychain. Have an inductance charger on my desk (or wherever I hang my keys), and I never have to deal with it... it's just there. Talk about pervasive computing.
Of course, you'd have to buy a ton of stuff. Hard drive, BT-equipped camera, BT-equipped mp3 player (or headphones), BT PDA attachment, BT receivers for my laptop/computer/TiVo, etc. And some nice synchronization software would be a must. But hopefully I'm not the only one who would find this useful. And hopefully some of the manufacturers see the potential to sell me more stuff.
I just saw an ad for one of the 2nd-gen DVD TV recorders, and saw that one (Phillips?) would save 40-hours onto a hard drive, and you could burn the rest off to DVD. $700, IIRC. Anyone have one of these?
The Lloyd estate just successfully won a lawsuit against Disney, on the grounds that their picture "The Waterboy" was a rip-off of the Harold Lloyd silent film (1924) "The Freshman".
I wonder if that's why Disney's past couple of movies have actually been original - they know that in a few more years, there won't be any stories they'll be able to steal.
Actual, I'll do market research stuff, it's the only type of calls like that I do. They find it odd when I AM willing to do it, most people aren't. (different group than yours, apparently) The trick is finding out which ones are Market Research and which ones are cold calling. The last one I got appeared to be from Nick at Nite / TV Land, and asked me all sorts of questions about cable. What cable channels I watched, which ones I remember seeing ads for, which shows I watched on each channel, etc.
I had another one a few years ago (missed one and never got invited back - damn!) that involved going to a local convention center, looking at cars (including prototypes), evaluating what I liked and didn't like. No sales pitch, nothing being sold, just market research. And I got paid $50 for that one. Not bad for an hour's time, and hopefully I improved cars in the way I want.
ObInsightful - the reason I talked to Market Research is that I'm definitely not the average viewer, and by speaking up, I inflate the numbers of people like me. Naive? Maybe. But worth the 5-10 minutes of time I spend each year doing it. Market research is one of the only ways to tell people exactly what you're looking for, and what you actually want.
This is the strangest thing... I've installed Red Hat 8.0, and it's been sitting there most of the day (I go futz with it for a few, then back to my desk). I've had 3 coworkers come by and comment on how cool the screen saver is (the standard is to cycle through all of them). Not sure how/if you could harness that (only idea: it gets them to sit down in front of it and play with it), but considering how much some emphasis people put on Eye candy, it bears mentioning.
Which NGs? I must've missed it. That would be handy as hell - alt.binaries.slashdot, for all the stuff that gets mentioned (free software, distros, etc)
This was interesting timing... I'm trying to get an 8.0 box up on our network (issues with the autosensing switch), and it just wouldn't come up on the network.
So, imagine my surprise when I saw this box pop up:
Could not look up internet address for mycomp. This will prevent GNOME from operating correctly. It may be possible to correct the problem by adding mycomp to the file/etc/hosts. (Log in Anyway) (Try Again)
So, they're aware of it. But why does it act this way? Wouldn't that effectively penalize anyone not on an active network? (i.e. dialup, etc)
Slashdot Mirror
Just proves she's a geek. Better than ALL CAPS, I guess.
In fact, if they don't provide some kind of live-cd, ala SuSE, they'll completely flop. It's that simple.
Agreed. Why should I bother buying a copy, if I'm a corporate user, when I can demo Linux for free?
If they're not expecting end-user sales, why not make a personal edition available (for $50 or free, either like SuSE's live demo, or totally free), without the Codeweaver plugins and without a couple of other corp-centric features? That way it'll get mindshare, and when my boss (hi!) asks me which Linux we want to standardize on, I can say Xandros.
That being said, best of luck to them - the product should rock. I used CLOS1 for a year and a half, and loved it. It actually put me onto Debian, although I still miss some of the features of CLOS.
For the end user, Xandros should rule. I just wish I could find out without ponying up $100.
You know, round music.
Like rubbing the rims of champagne glasses, making music. I've heard some of it (mostly classical), so there you are.
Not much for it personally, but apparently enough people are.
Xandros, based off Debian, ships this week. If it's done correctly, it'll offer all the Debian goodness, with an actual ease-of-use for end-users. I am looking forward to it, to see what they've managed to do with Corel Linux.
"Xandros Desktop 1.0. The product, due to be released on September 30, 2002 and available for purchase within three weeks after that date, is built upon Linux kernel 2.4.19, XFree86 4.2, Debian 3.0, Corel LINUX 3.0, and enhanced KDE."
Can we get a "+1 Geeky" moderation?
It doesn't actually remember the room. It uses a variation on the wandering drunk pattern, but the practical upshot is it should finish in a couple of hours. Part of why it's so cheap - it doesn't have to "learn the room", you just put it down and walk away. From what I've read on it, the price point is paramount... for $200, I'm damn tempted.
...of geeks. I really wish AOL had put these on CD-Rs or CD-RWs... I think that if you make a buttload of them, it's probably doable. If, everytime you got an AOL disk, you knew you could put another 650 meg on it, would you throw it away? (Maybe). But you'd probably keep them around as spares.
Less manufacturing cost == more room to reduce prices to undercut the competition.
Right... and since they're all doing it, they all have lower costs, which would mean lower prices (which I personally doubt we'll see - they'll keep the prices the same, since they bitch about their margins being so low). So, yes, the price might go down, but since everyone's doing it, it probably doesn't help the company any.
Congrats, nothing's changed.
Yeah! Someone mod this up so I won't have to read it once it's implemented.
Poster hit it on the nose. Prices won't go down any. This was D-U-M dumb. They say it's to be more competitive, which is a lie - if everyone does it, there's no competitive advantage. All this allows them to do is pocket the money they'd otherwise squirrel away for replacements.
Yes, they make a little more per drive, but this is like that frickin Pizza Hut/Dominos price increase - a hidden price increase.
I think I'll be looking for a different manufacturer of drives (I've had 2 go bad in the past 3 years, none before that). I'm glad my mobo has a RAID controller in it.
1) Why all the hype over a chip that will be slow when it's released? I'll admit, the specs look damn impressive - a 1.6 Power4 single-core has the SpecFP/INT specs of a P4 2.5 (500mhz Bus), but they're not due out for a year, and the 1.6 is expected to be on the high end
2) Why only a single-core?
3) Where's the G5? It looked similarly impressive, a year ago. It still does, according to the Register's leaked spec numbers
4) What's the advantage again of a 64 bit processor? Sure, more RAM. Is it faster? Does it do more? Anyone?
4)
Maybe not today, and maybe not tomorrow, but soon that man will have a coronary that they will talk about for YEARS.
That assumes your artists are even released that way. All my bands are on tiny labels that aren't going to move to that format.
1) Portable device to watch shows on, downloaded from the ReplayTV
2) "we'll use whatever DRM system [Hollywood] ultimately certify"
3) Heavily marketing the Commercial Skip this winter
According to The Register, late last year (http://www.theregus.com/content/archive/22328.htm l)
[supposedly accurate benchmark numbers]
GHz 1.2 1.4 1.6
SpecInt2000 987 1151 1340
SpecFP2000 1005 1173 1359
"By comparison, Intel's 2GHz Pentium 4 has recorded SpecInt2000 and SpecFP2000 scores of 656 and 714, respectively, according to www.specbench.org If accurate, the G5 figures are impressive indeed."
I am curious where the G5 is... I had hoped to have heard more about it by now.
Does this mean we could use Google News as a "Slashdot repeat story" filter?
Someone screwed up on their math:
1mbps * 60 seconds/minute * 60 minutes/hour = ~325MB
So you could fit two full hours (+ a little - gotta love 700mb CD-Rs) on a standard 650 megabyte CD.
I remember this... Divx gold was an abomination. Say your daughter bought a Disney Divx-Gold (Disney was going to go exclusively Divx), and took it to a friend's house. When it was watched over there, a $3 charge would appear on that person's bill, since _their_ player hadn't already paid for it. A real sleazy way to make money off little children - real nice, Eisner.
The original idea had promise (Aside from all the ecological fun with millions of thrown-away disks). Trust greedy bastards to get greedier and totally screw themselves over. Divx: designed by Circuit City and a Law Firm. Does that tell you why it was avoided?
Think of it this way (and a lot of other people have said similarly) - it changes the way you view things. I currently am taking pictures of my house. I get home, drag it over to the computer, pull it out of its case, remove the rubber plug, plug in the usb cable, turn it on, hit the "PC" button, start the application on the PC, tell it to load all the images, and save them to disk. *whew*
Now imagine that this thing comes out, in a nice small form factor. And that devices support it. You leave it in a jacket/ purse/backpack, charging it every couple of weeks (hopefully).
Provided the software is good enough (always the key), I would take pictures with my digital camera, and they'd be saved (via BT) on the drive. I get home, all I have to do is hang my coat somewhere near a BT receiver, and have it sync. None of those steps now apply. I decide to listen to some music, I use something like Musicmatch/iTunes to move it over there. Take something like the PalmPilot's keyboard, marry it with some sort of LCD (or glasses, etc), and there's your ultraportable. Hell, have TiVo save things to it on demand - now I can go to a friend's house with an episode of (tv show) and watch it en masse. Only catch on some of these is speed.
Ideally, instead of a "Bluetooth Backpack", this would be solid state, hardened, about the size of a credit card, and I'd have it in my wallet. Or if it was small enough (again, solid state, or just higher tech - how much do those USB keys hold?), on my keychain. Have an inductance charger on my desk (or wherever I hang my keys), and I never have to deal with it... it's just there. Talk about pervasive computing.
Of course, you'd have to buy a ton of stuff. Hard drive, BT-equipped camera, BT-equipped mp3 player (or headphones), BT PDA attachment, BT receivers for my laptop/computer/TiVo, etc. And some nice synchronization software would be a must. But hopefully I'm not the only one who would find this useful. And hopefully some of the manufacturers see the potential to sell me more stuff.
I just saw an ad for one of the 2nd-gen DVD TV recorders, and saw that one (Phillips?) would save 40-hours onto a hard drive, and you could burn the rest off to DVD. $700, IIRC. Anyone have one of these?
The Lloyd estate just successfully won a lawsuit against Disney, on the grounds that their picture "The Waterboy" was a rip-off of the Harold Lloyd silent film (1924) "The Freshman".
I wonder if that's why Disney's past couple of movies have actually been original - they know that in a few more years, there won't be any stories they'll be able to steal.
Actual, I'll do market research stuff, it's the only type of calls like that I do. They find it odd when I AM willing to do it, most people aren't. (different group than yours, apparently) The trick is finding out which ones are Market Research and which ones are cold calling. The last one I got appeared to be from Nick at Nite / TV Land, and asked me all sorts of questions about cable. What cable channels I watched, which ones I remember seeing ads for, which shows I watched on each channel, etc.
I had another one a few years ago (missed one and never got invited back - damn!) that involved going to a local convention center, looking at cars (including prototypes), evaluating what I liked and didn't like. No sales pitch, nothing being sold, just market research. And I got paid $50 for that one. Not bad for an hour's time, and hopefully I improved cars in the way I want.
ObInsightful - the reason I talked to Market Research is that I'm definitely not the average viewer, and by speaking up, I inflate the numbers of people like me. Naive? Maybe. But worth the 5-10 minutes of time I spend each year doing it. Market research is one of the only ways to tell people exactly what you're looking for, and what you actually want.
This is the strangest thing... I've installed Red Hat 8.0, and it's been sitting there most of the day (I go futz with it for a few, then back to my desk). I've had 3 coworkers come by and comment on how cool the screen saver is (the standard is to cycle through all of them). Not sure how/if you could harness that (only idea: it gets them to sit down in front of it and play with it), but considering how much some emphasis people put on Eye candy, it bears mentioning.
Which NGs? I must've missed it. That would be handy as hell - alt.binaries.slashdot, for all the stuff that gets mentioned (free software, distros, etc)
This was interesting timing... I'm trying to get an 8.0 box up on our network (issues with the autosensing switch), and it just wouldn't come up on the network.
/etc/hosts.
So, imagine my surprise when I saw this box pop up:
Could not look up internet address for mycomp.
This will prevent GNOME from operating correctly.
It may be possible to correct the problem by adding
mycomp to the file
(Log in Anyway) (Try Again)
So, they're aware of it. But why does it act this way? Wouldn't that effectively penalize anyone not on an active network? (i.e. dialup, etc)