It's neat but a player that doesn't play Vorbis isn't any good to me. I was looking at the iRiver devices - they play Ogg Vorbis, but as I hear, only if q=3 or higher, for some weird reason. I don't remmeber what I rip my CDs at (I think -q4.5. not sure). Also the iRivers have a FM tuner. But I'd like to see the battery life of those..
I'm sure that they are able to build machines for $150 from a combination of part recycling and slightly outdated, but still very viable parts, bought in bulk. With such a strategy I was able to upgrade my computer to an Athlon XP 2500+, etc. for about $200.
Bahaha, after I took the C++ APCS exam last year, I went and had some gooooood fried fish a few blocks away from the testing center. Vengeance is so, so, sweet... Plus, I got a 5 on it. It wasn't very hard, and the College Board curved pretty liberally.
Manipulating those dumb classes to move fish around a stupid board was an idea convoluted beyond belief! Then, (I'm not sure if others had to do this), we had to use this CMU Graphics library to paint the fish on the screen. Waste of time! Although, my professor was brilliant - and I'm taking an AI course with him now. I digress...
> (3) Don't read into the summary that this solely a personal decision by Anthony Towns, or that he is necessarily in favor of the proposed changes.
This is quite right. He believes that the changes to the sarge schedule may be necessary, but when the vote was decided, he was like "oh great, dudes, what the fuck have you guys just voted in favor of?" on IRC.
Note that the vote proposal was poorly worded and that most people would have voted against it if it were clearer as to what was going on in the changes to the SC.
This is a good point. However, I am all *for* usability improvements to Linux, because, as you can see, problems with (attempts at) user interfaces in Unix befall the most seasoned of veterans.
And such improvements are good in the case where the people who would previously type long command lines will take advantage of said improvements over what they did before. Programs in the FOSS world where a GUI has supplemented a command-line program have rarely gotten that kind of treatment.
As far as the debian-installer is concerned, 'stable' will be 'sarge'. Woody, the 'stable' to which you refer, will become our 'oldstable' release and receive less and less support once sarge is out the door.
Hence as far as we're concerned, pork will exist in stable.
The size of it is, someone really messed up the kernel and bootloader packages for PowerPC and we did not have enough time to rectify the bug before the preset beta3 deadline.
Do expect to be able to test post-beta3 PowerPC images in the following week or so.
... a decent try at best. At first glance it alienates me a _LOT_ less than lprng, which is fully managed with an arcane/etc file that lists configuration directives in no particular order.
But that doesn't mean that CUPS is all peaches and roses. I had to discover what `foomatic' was in order to figure out how to extract a driver for my Epson Stylus C42UX from a large xml file. Its wizard to create the printers was rather friendly, although a belaguering dropdown box full of stuff I didn't have asked me where my printer was. Luckily it identified itself as USB PRINTER #1 (EPSON C42) so I could choose that - but most wouldn't have the slightest idea of what to choose and just stare at the screen glaze-eyed...
Really, all I wanted to do was print a school assignment. I fully agree with esr on this issue. This whole CUPS ordeal should have taken me 10 minutes, not 10 hours (on and off) to get working. And it still doesn't fully work, for example with printing to a SAMBA host.
But CUPS is the best we've got for Unix now. Isn't that sad?
Addendum to my previous comment, I hadn't read the article carefully enough:
yes, there is the issue of big name distros like Debian getting rooted. Yes, we heard about the attempt to corrupt Linux BKCVS (someone committed to the repository, disguised as Dave Miller). The OSS community as a whole found and corrected every case and the author of this article is looking for the time when we won't catch such a subversive change.
Developer trust on the Internet is typically done via PGP/GPG too. Numerous key signatures verifying someone's identity are not ultimate proof, but they assist in reassuring people that a person with that name exists and probably is fairly trustworthy. I've mostly found all of the OSS developers I've met to be forthcoming and truthful and wanting their programs to be rock solid and uncorrupt.
And only half tongue in cheek (considering the possibility that this is a fake) But can you explain why there are traces of Code Red sitting in the zipfile of the alleged leaked Windows source code?:)
IMO this is a call for a mass move to security via obscurity. Get real -- all software has problems. And just 'cause it's open source doesn't mean you get the shaft. How many open Windows security holes do you think there are right now? They're discovering more and more as the months go by.
Slightly offtopic, there is a valid problem with FLOSS, though. I think open source developers give users that proverbial shaft when they try to clone Windows programs in FLOSS; it is often inconsistent with the developer's taste, resulting in a jumble of bad UI features that often don't work.
People who design UIs make something with intrinsic usability value, not just something they expect people to be very accustomed to. When the bulk of developers get used to that, we'll probably see FLOSS that's better a a whole.
I've been kind of skeptical about ITT due to all the ads it has on television. Also its abundance of campuses leads me to question the relative quality of the education. Could you elaborate?
Frankly, that's like saying that we should eradicate every single disease on Earth.
Kernel hackers are human, surprisingly. No kernel is perfect, look at even OpenBSD:)
Although due to their very strict emphasis on security they haven't had many root exploits in the past. Linux doesn't follow that philosophy too carefully.
Perhaps it was because you at no point considered that Mountain Dew a requirement to keep yourself perked up. Which further proves that it's a psychological addiction more than anything.
They're probably taking SCO's example that shows that any industry power can make a colossal fuss over untrue claims, and for a very, very long time at that. *grin*
That's probably 'Sensa'. I have a friend who collects these pens (yeah, people are weird...)
Myself, though, whatever pen is handy is good enough. I do like the pens that have a giant mooshy grip, and a clicker on the top.
I don't like fountain pens because I somehow get them to leak all over the finger i'm holding the pen with. Had to use them all the time in France, though, they're very particular about choice of writing utensil.
[ Note to all: it's Gaim or gaim, not GAIM or gAim. ]
Everyone keeps shooting the bull, but no one is really caring if he or she refuses to take action to solve the problem in some way or another.
I don't, really. I rely on my filesystem's permissions system to do the dirty work.
If anything, GPG encryption of the passwords would be overkill, but it would shut the paranoid folks up.
WRT the subject, I would not slander so quickly. Gaim is open source and people lose sleep and get drunk over the development of this fine work. Better appreciate what they do or just use something else...!
Now, if Gaim was payware, I'd join your flaming in a second:)
Larry McVoy (the BitKeeper guy), you must admit, is in between a rock and a hard place. He's an honest guy trying to make a buck and keep it. But these days it's hard to market software to one of the earliest, really really big GPL'd projects. He is definitely marketing to the wrong crowd, specifically a crowd containing many Free software zealots.
Alan Cox refuses to use Bitkeeper, FWIW. But I kind of feel sorry for Larry...
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I think it was because no one brought it to the attention of the kernel mailing list until now.
And it was a one liner fix too.
However ... That Sony player does look shweet! ;)
It's neat but a player that doesn't play Vorbis isn't any good to me. I was looking at the iRiver devices - they play Ogg Vorbis, but as I hear, only if q=3 or higher, for some weird reason. I don't remmeber what I rip my CDs at (I think -q4.5. not sure). Also the iRivers have a FM tuner. But I'd like to see the battery life of those..
I'm sure that they are able to build machines for $150 from a combination of part recycling and slightly outdated, but still very viable parts, bought in bulk. With such a strategy I was able to upgrade my computer to an Athlon XP 2500+, etc. for about $200.
I suggest irssi. Since you use Debian, apt-get install irssi-text. It's awesome.
And don't try EFnet, or DALnet, try Freenode and OFTC (irc.freenode.net, irc.oftc.net.) Good stuff.
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Bahaha, after I took the C++ APCS exam last year, I went and had some gooooood fried fish a few blocks away from the testing center. Vengeance is so, so, sweet... Plus, I got a 5 on it. It wasn't very hard, and the College Board curved pretty liberally.
Manipulating those dumb classes to move fish around a stupid board was an idea convoluted beyond belief! Then, (I'm not sure if others had to do this), we had to use this CMU Graphics library to paint the fish on the screen. Waste of time! Although, my professor was brilliant - and I'm taking an AI course with him now. I digress...
> (3) Don't read into the summary that this solely a personal decision by Anthony Towns, or that he is necessarily in favor of the proposed changes.
This is quite right. He believes that the changes to the sarge schedule may be necessary, but when the vote was decided, he was like "oh great, dudes, what the fuck have you guys just voted in favor of?" on IRC.
Note that the vote proposal was poorly worded and that most people would have voted against it if it were clearer as to what was going on in the changes to the SC.
This is a good point. However, I am all *for* usability improvements to Linux, because, as you can see, problems with (attempts at) user interfaces in Unix befall the most seasoned of veterans.
And such improvements are good in the case where the people who would previously type long command lines will take advantage of said improvements over what they did before. Programs in the FOSS world where a GUI has supplemented a command-line program have rarely gotten that kind of treatment.
> It's good to hear that the absence of ppc support is only temporary.
As of this moment it's all fixed up in our Subversion repo.
> It's also remarkable that a Debian project is sticking to its deadlines!
Ah, well, maybe I shouldn't tell you that we were *supposed* to release on December 14...
As far as the debian-installer is concerned, 'stable' will be 'sarge'. Woody, the 'stable' to which you refer, will become our 'oldstable' release and receive less and less support once sarge is out the door.
Hence as far as we're concerned, pork will exist in stable.
> naim
If you want a good console AIM client, use pork. (No, I'm not a developer, but I'm a dedicated user of it.)
The size of it is, someone really messed up the kernel and bootloader packages for PowerPC and we did not have enough time to rectify the bug before the preset beta3 deadline.
Do expect to be able to test post-beta3 PowerPC images in the following week or so.
Seems to me that should the battery deal go wrong, the card box is very conducive to fire.. fire on batteries... box go boom?
That's me being paranoid, but I recently heard of a colo facility destroyed - burned to the ground - by exploding batteries.
... a decent try at best. At first glance it alienates me a _LOT_ less than lprng, which is fully managed with an arcane /etc file that lists configuration directives in no particular order.
But that doesn't mean that CUPS is all peaches and roses. I had to discover what `foomatic' was in order to figure out how to extract a driver for my Epson Stylus C42UX from a large xml file. Its wizard to create the printers was rather friendly, although a belaguering dropdown box full of stuff I didn't have asked me where my printer was. Luckily it identified itself as USB PRINTER #1 (EPSON C42) so I could choose that - but most wouldn't have the slightest idea of what to choose and just stare at the screen glaze-eyed...
Really, all I wanted to do was print a school assignment. I fully agree with esr on this issue. This whole CUPS ordeal should have taken me 10 minutes, not 10 hours (on and off) to get working. And it still doesn't fully work, for example with printing to a SAMBA host.
But CUPS is the best we've got for Unix now. Isn't that sad?
Addendum to my previous comment, I hadn't read the article carefully enough:
:)
yes, there is the issue of big name distros like Debian getting rooted. Yes, we heard about the attempt to corrupt Linux BKCVS (someone committed to the repository, disguised as Dave Miller). The OSS community as a whole found and corrected every case and the author of this article is looking for the time when we won't catch such a subversive change.
Developer trust on the Internet is typically done via PGP/GPG too. Numerous key signatures verifying someone's identity are not ultimate proof, but they assist in reassuring people that a person with that name exists and probably is fairly trustworthy. I've mostly found all of the OSS developers I've met to be forthcoming and truthful and wanting their programs to be rock solid and uncorrupt.
And only half tongue in cheek (considering the possibility that this is a fake)
But can you explain why there are traces of Code Red sitting in the zipfile of the alleged leaked Windows source code?
IMO this is a call for a mass move to security via obscurity. Get real -- all software has problems. And just 'cause it's open source doesn't mean you get the shaft. How many open Windows security holes do you think there are right now? They're discovering more and more as the months go by.
Slightly offtopic, there is a valid problem with FLOSS, though. I think open source developers give users that proverbial shaft when they try to clone Windows programs in FLOSS; it is often inconsistent with the developer's taste, resulting in a jumble of bad UI features that often don't work.
People who design UIs make something with intrinsic usability value, not just something they expect people to be very accustomed to. When the bulk of developers get used to that, we'll probably see FLOSS that's better a a whole.
I've been kind of skeptical about ITT due to all the ads it has on television. Also its abundance of campuses leads me to question the relative quality of the education. Could you elaborate?
:))
(Yes, I'm a high school junior right now
Frankly, that's like saying that we should eradicate every single disease on Earth.
:)
Kernel hackers are human, surprisingly. No kernel is perfect, look at even OpenBSD
Although due to their very strict emphasis on security they haven't had many root exploits in the past. Linux doesn't follow that philosophy too carefully.
I think it's supposed to save on the support calls.
Then again, all of THOSE go to Bangalore, so it's good to give those assholes a hard time.
Perhaps it was because you at no point considered that Mountain Dew a requirement to keep yourself perked up. Which further proves that it's a psychological addiction more than anything.
They're probably taking SCO's example that shows that any industry power can make a colossal fuss over untrue claims, and for a very, very long time at that. *grin*
That's probably 'Sensa'. I have a friend who collects these pens (yeah, people are weird...)
Myself, though, whatever pen is handy is good enough. I do like the pens that have a giant mooshy grip, and a clicker on the top.
I don't like fountain pens because I somehow get them to leak all over the finger i'm holding the pen with. Had to use them all the time in France, though, they're very particular about choice of writing utensil.
Would this be a similar situation to GNU TLS versus OpenSSL?
[ Note to all: it's Gaim or gaim, not GAIM or gAim. ]
:)
Everyone keeps shooting the bull, but no one is really caring if he or she refuses to take action to solve the problem in some way or another.
I don't, really. I rely on my filesystem's permissions system to do the dirty work.
If anything, GPG encryption of the passwords would be overkill, but it would shut the paranoid folks up.
WRT the subject, I would not slander so quickly. Gaim is open source and people lose sleep and get drunk over the development of this fine work. Better appreciate what they do or just use something else...!
Now, if Gaim was payware, I'd join your flaming in a second
What happens if you run 1.00, does this mean you have to pay sco as well? if not, then i dont see why someone doesnt take the 1.00 kernel and fork it?
That's several hundred (thousand?) combined work-years down the shitter.
Larry McVoy (the BitKeeper guy), you must admit, is in between a rock and a hard place. He's an honest guy trying to make a buck and keep it. But these days it's hard to market software to one of the earliest, really really big GPL'd projects. He is definitely marketing to the wrong crowd, specifically a crowd containing many Free software zealots.
Alan Cox refuses to use Bitkeeper, FWIW. But I kind of feel sorry for Larry...