there's nothing of interest in the plot of "Eyes Wide Shut" to a puritanical old biddy. which is why someone would watch an altered move. they want just the plot without any "contreversial" footage. the thing is, these R rated films have a plot that is also R rated. the story line itself is just as offensive to those watching the film w/o the offending scenes.
i would think that sun is making a pittance or even loss off of most those products. the certification, the cost is most likely for sun to create the tests and maintain them. that and to keep jboss and the likes out;). as for Sun Studio, they're selling that dirt cheep compared to compeditors. they're just trying to get customers.
sun seems to make a killing from selling 1M$ hardware to enterprise systems. and as a side, they control this little language (java/j2ee) that runs on those 1M$ boxes along with desktops, and along with pda's and cell phones, etc.
now, sun, combined with oracle (both companies have wacked out mgmt) that's some bread and butter. enterprise consumers use oracle database on that 1M$ hardware 24x7. that shit's too expensive to cluster, but when you have the database crash because the raid drives failed, ya gotta wonder...
i say bring it on! let the weak get crushed and let the strong survive. these welfare programs are the responsibility of local communities, not federal scale.
the government can and will regulate (i did much of that before the 1900's) industry. and it should perform its small core businesses. defend the borders, national roads, not much else that i can see. we MUST get the government back to their core business.
duplicate postings, lots of them. natalie portman, hot grits ring a bell? soviet russia stabs anyone? grammor nazi;)? caldera == kewl; IBM == bigBadNastyCorporation?
i don't understand how a control can be "fast"? ok, i've used some early AWT java apps, and they're definately are "slow" toolkits, but most people will agree that kde isn't in that league.
it all boils down to personal preferance. in my early days of using linux systems, i was a gnome enthusiest purely on my lack of knowledge of kde licensing issues. i tried kde once, and after that can't quite get the gnome camp. personal preference. both knock the socks off the CDE desktop that's available on our outdated solaris machine.
gnome runs better? you must be on a P90 machine w/ 32MB perhaps? nothing about kde is "slow" or sluggish except for initial login time. i haven't compared it to gnome, but i don't go around logging in/out all the time. gnome just plain looks too much like... well crap... that to me there's no sense using it. their nice HID puts buttons on the wrong side. their widgets in general are too big with too much extra space around them. gtk is nice and portable and nice and lgpl and all, but really. that commercialness of qt really shows through.
i'm wondering how long it will be before qt will release a subset of their widgets under the lgpl lincense.
first, they probably are making some $$ off the book. but yes, it is inconsistent.
from my understanding GPL software that relies on non-gpl libraries is hindered. from my understanding, that's why the gnome project was basically started. because they didn't like that kde was using qt libs w/o it being gpl.
can you give an example of a library that's free for non-commercial use (gpl/lgpl/pub. domain) that REQUIRES payment for non-free software? only the viral nature of the GPL license ensures that. and only b/c qt owns copywright to the gpl software can they relicense it under the other licenses.
you seem to be serious?!? so i'll bite. i'm also a father with children. that's beside the point.
the fcc is effectively acting as the judicial and legislative branches when it's deciding what is and isn't moral for the ears of both adults and of children.
as a father with children, its your responsibility to monitor what goes in those little ears, and to teach those young 'uns some respect along the way. that's how societ has digressed to a more disrespectfull society. not because some T.V. show uses the word shit or fuck too many times. its because the parents aren't there to monitor their children. they're off earning their 6 figure salaries so they can send the kids to daycare and off to after school activities to lessen the family time together.
you don't like what's on the air waves? get rid of the television. you don't like what's on the radio (read: stern), do away with the radio. your children will be better off by it (though i'm not giving mine up, i'll just watch it with the kids).
we don't need some beauracratic (sp) entity to give moral guideance to our children. we need to accept responsibility for our children's upbringing and take action for that. i would much rather have no fcc involvement in the content that is transmitted across the airwaves. sure, i'd personally use my parental controls if there were a 24x7 playboy type channel on the public airwaves, because i think the freedoms outlined in the constitution have more value than the regulations that are far too often implemented.
regarding the $1550. trolltech has flopped on this issue a couple of times. there was a qt 2.3 version available for open source development of windows software. i don't think they saw much use of it, and pulled it. now it looks like they're getting back onto having that available. at least i heard a recent book that contains windows libraries under a free software type license (you must develop free/opensource software to use the windows libs).
i don't think we'll ever see tt go lgpl with their licenses which does hinder them in some ways. but how would you expect them to make their bread and butter? selling books and trainning? support? the only way is if they get bought out of obtain a large sponsorship someplace.
anything using these qt libs must be gpl or compatible. this keeps the apache style license folks out of reach (that whole viral.vs. non-viral thing). i suppose the eclipse foundation could dual license swt.
most folks haven't moved over to SATA yet, and there's lots of folks who aren't using raid. that said, most distros build all drivers they can as modules. most distros will include non-vanilla drivers too. do the latest releases of SUSE/Mandrake not provide these drivers?
um, some manufacturers _are_ putting linux on their boxes. or at least they were. i bought a lexmark z53 printer which had linux compatability on the box.
that said, a LOT of hardware is operating system neutral, they're all about the same. cdrw, hdd, fdd, mass storage device, etc. it's the printers, and scanners and web cams and video cards that are most troubling.
i imagine in the future more and more linux stickers will appear on hardware boxes though.
do you have some sources on this claim? my impression was that the design was similar to the vms design because microsoft purchased quite a few dec engineers to help build their little operating system. of course, these folks applied their expertise to the subject. i've never read that they used code from VMS.
honestly, i'm not familar with NT's kernel very much. i hear that it let video drivers, and other drivers cause the entire system to crash. thus it must have had some superior privledges when that driver code was being executed.
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VMS and NT kernel should not be compared like this. they might be similar in design and such, but VMS is ROCK SOLID. when a production machine would very rarely go down running VMS, the DEC engineers would be onsite shortly to provide a full report. and of course, since it was one of a cluster of machines, the others would pick up the slack.
NT kernel might have evolved its stability over the years, but certainly you cannot compare the stability of VMS to that of an NT kernel.
that's just plain wrong. ATI does release specs to their hardware, and the X "hackers" produce lack luster drivers that can lock up an entire box. perhaps it's from faulty specs, but still.
come on now, that would be comparing apples to apples. and there's no business doing that these days. those fine folks in marketing would have us know that 78.5% of all statistics are made up on the spot _and_ that 80.9% of all statistics in close proximity to each other in the sentence have absoluely no substancial relationship to one another. compare apples to apples and we'll be confused by the clarity i imagine.
Note that you can do with ANSI C whatever you like: you can implement or not implement whatever parts you like. Not so with Java under the current licenses.
maybe this is why so many c compilers fail to implement the entire ansi-c standard? extending the standard is one thing, but not being required to implement selective parts of it is not a good reputation to have.
why do you say a closed-door implementation of a jvm would violate licensing from sun? if i take the specs, a few computers and a few monkies (just kidding:) )to a room and come out with a jvm, i should think i don't have to license anything from anyone.
pretty much complete for a JDK that's been out for at least 4 years? sounds about like the progress the wine folks are having. and the sun source code is openly available (anyone can download it); just the re-implementors can't risk taking a peek at it.
btw, i'm not sure about your free/open source implementations of java statement. eclipse/tomcat are not implementations of java, they're java applications that run on top of the jdk (java class library implementation). the main opensource jdk is the blackdown jdk which is a port of sun's jdk and is not free . it's basically a port of the sun source code to linux licensed to the blackdown folks specificly to port to linux. hell, linux distributors can't even include it in their distro w/o reprocussions from sun. sun wants to force microsoft to include the jre with their product, why not even allow the linux distributors to openly distribute it?
+1 for wanting sun releasing the jdk under a BSD-ish (netbeans/openoffice) type license. i'm not going to hold my breath though.
afaik, you can't purchase one. you can only rent them right now from the companies that make them. they don't want you opening up the case to figgure out how they work and find ways to easily mod the device.
i'm sure if these are ever required in cars, they'll be quickly modded as others have said.
i agree John Dvorak is the/. troll poster child. besides, JD hasn't seen the Blue Linux. He's talked to people who have claimed to have seen it. You know, friend of a friend of a friend type thing.
in that article, he talks about things like pricing, and how xp should cost 29$ b/c every cent after the first day of sales is gravy. he fails to comprehend how in business, there's a concept of market value. you sell a product for the highest you can sell it for, and a buyer pays as low as they can for something. where those two meet, you have a price point. in market value, it assumes that all products are equal. if you only have one vendor for desktop os (that's compatible with the PHB required MS-Office) you hvae quite a bit of control over setting that market value.
personally, i'm a postgresql fanboy for now. being a mostly unix only rdbms, it's limited as well. lots of people develop on the desktop and would benefit from a local rdbms system that's easy to install and configure. i never understand the MySQL interest myself.
i would like to try out the 1.5 firebird. currently, gentoo portage only has 1.0? so it's a manual install. perhaps i'll give it a shot one day at work when i have a free 5 minutes.
interesting, that would be a lot of bandwidth. perhaps they could just _sell_ the dvd's. they don't have to offer free downloads. let other people host the torrent or what ever after a few people buy it. heck it's probably easier to pay 5$ than to download 4gb software.
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there's nothing of interest in the plot of "Eyes Wide Shut" to a puritanical old biddy. which is why someone would watch an altered move. they want just the plot without any "contreversial" footage. the thing is, these R rated films have a plot that is also R rated. the story line itself is just as offensive to those watching the film w/o the offending scenes.
i would think that sun is making a pittance or even loss off of most those products. the certification, the cost is most likely for sun to create the tests and maintain them. that and to keep jboss and the likes out ;). as for Sun Studio, they're selling that dirt cheep compared to compeditors. they're just trying to get customers.
sun seems to make a killing from selling 1M$ hardware to enterprise systems. and as a side, they control this little language (java/j2ee) that runs on those 1M$ boxes along with desktops, and along with pda's and cell phones, etc.
now, sun, combined with oracle (both companies have wacked out mgmt) that's some bread and butter. enterprise consumers use oracle database on that 1M$ hardware 24x7. that shit's too expensive to cluster, but when you have the database crash because the raid drives failed, ya gotta wonder...
no. XFree86 is now dying. They've started their own obituary with the abrupt and incompatible licenses changes. Xorg lives on.
i say bring it on! let the weak get crushed and let the strong survive. these welfare programs are the responsibility of local communities, not federal scale.
the government can and will regulate (i did much of that before the 1900's) industry. and it should perform its small core businesses. defend the borders, national roads, not much else that i can see. we MUST get the government back to their core business.
btw, according to whois.net, gmail.com:
Created on..............: 1995-Aug-13.
Expires on..............: 2006-Aug-12.
Record last updated on..: 2004-Mar-31 16:50:22.
seems interesting they've had this url for a while and updated it last around gmt april fools day.
and because forbes says so..?
most of the forbes "article" contains only a slashdot summary along with a few google PHB comments that i recall reading this morning.
looks the same as this morning. what new info do you see there?
yadda, yadda, yadda. twenty seconds should be over pretty quickly now i assume hopefully...
duplicate postings, lots of them. natalie portman, hot grits ring a bell? soviet russia stabs anyone? grammor nazi ;)? caldera == kewl; IBM == bigBadNastyCorporation?
i don't understand how a control can be "fast"? ok, i've used some early AWT java apps, and they're definately are "slow" toolkits, but most people will agree that kde isn't in that league.
it all boils down to personal preferance. in my early days of using linux systems, i was a gnome enthusiest purely on my lack of knowledge of kde licensing issues. i tried kde once, and after that can't quite get the gnome camp. personal preference. both knock the socks off the CDE desktop that's available on our outdated solaris machine.
gnome runs better? you must be on a P90 machine w/ 32MB perhaps? nothing about kde is "slow" or sluggish except for initial login time. i haven't compared it to gnome, but i don't go around logging in/out all the time. gnome just plain looks too much like ... well crap ... that to me there's no sense using it. their nice HID puts buttons on the wrong side. their widgets in general are too big with too much extra space around them. gtk is nice and portable and nice and lgpl and all, but really. that commercialness of qt really shows through.
i'm wondering how long it will be before qt will release a subset of their widgets under the lgpl lincense.
first, they probably are making some $$ off the book. but yes, it is inconsistent.
from my understanding GPL software that relies on non-gpl libraries is hindered. from my understanding, that's why the gnome project was basically started. because they didn't like that kde was using qt libs w/o it being gpl.
can you give an example of a library that's free for non-commercial use (gpl/lgpl/pub. domain) that REQUIRES payment for non-free software? only the viral nature of the GPL license ensures that. and only b/c qt owns copywright to the gpl software can they relicense it under the other licenses.
you seem to be serious?!? so i'll bite. i'm also a father with children. that's beside the point.
the fcc is effectively acting as the judicial and legislative branches when it's deciding what is and isn't moral for the ears of both adults and of children.
as a father with children, its your responsibility to monitor what goes in those little ears, and to teach those young 'uns some respect along the way. that's how societ has digressed to a more disrespectfull society. not because some T.V. show uses the word shit or fuck too many times. its because the parents aren't there to monitor their children. they're off earning their 6 figure salaries so they can send the kids to daycare and off to after school activities to lessen the family time together.
you don't like what's on the air waves? get rid of the television. you don't like what's on the radio (read: stern), do away with the radio. your children will be better off by it (though i'm not giving mine up, i'll just watch it with the kids).
we don't need some beauracratic (sp) entity to give moral guideance to our children. we need to accept responsibility for our children's upbringing and take action for that. i would much rather have no fcc involvement in the content that is transmitted across the airwaves. sure, i'd personally use my parental controls if there were a 24x7 playboy type channel on the public airwaves, because i think the freedoms outlined in the constitution have more value than the regulations that are far too often implemented.
regarding the $1550. trolltech has flopped on this issue a couple of times. there was a qt 2.3 version available for open source development of windows software. i don't think they saw much use of it, and pulled it. now it looks like they're getting back onto having that available. at least i heard a recent book that contains windows libraries under a free software type license (you must develop free/opensource software to use the windows libs).
.vs. non-viral thing). i suppose the eclipse foundation could dual license swt.
i don't think we'll ever see tt go lgpl with their licenses which does hinder them in some ways. but how would you expect them to make their bread and butter? selling books and trainning? support? the only way is if they get bought out of obtain a large sponsorship someplace.
anything using these qt libs must be gpl or compatible. this keeps the apache style license folks out of reach (that whole viral
most folks haven't moved over to SATA yet, and there's lots of folks who aren't using raid. that said, most distros build all drivers they can as modules. most distros will include non-vanilla drivers too. do the latest releases of SUSE/Mandrake not provide these drivers?
um, some manufacturers _are_ putting linux on their boxes. or at least they were. i bought a lexmark z53 printer which had linux compatability on the box.
that said, a LOT of hardware is operating system neutral, they're all about the same. cdrw, hdd, fdd, mass storage device, etc. it's the printers, and scanners and web cams and video cards that are most troubling.
i imagine in the future more and more linux stickers will appear on hardware boxes though.
Much of the code is from VMS
do you have some sources on this claim? my impression was that the design was similar to the vms design because microsoft purchased quite a few dec engineers to help build their little operating system. of course, these folks applied their expertise to the subject. i've never read that they used code from VMS.
honestly, i'm not familar with NT's kernel very much. i hear that it let video drivers, and other drivers cause the entire system to crash. thus it must have had some superior privledges when that driver code was being executed.
VMS and NT kernel should not be compared like this. they might be similar in design and such, but VMS is ROCK SOLID. when a production machine would very rarely go down running VMS, the DEC engineers would be onsite shortly to provide a full report. and of course, since it was one of a cluster of machines, the others would pick up the slack.
NT kernel might have evolved its stability over the years, but certainly you cannot compare the stability of VMS to that of an NT kernel.
that's just plain wrong. ATI does release specs to their hardware, and the X "hackers" produce lack luster drivers that can lock up an entire box. perhaps it's from faulty specs, but still.
come on now, that would be comparing apples to apples. and there's no business doing that these days. those fine folks in marketing would have us know that 78.5% of all statistics are made up on the spot _and_ that 80.9% of all statistics in close proximity to each other in the sentence have absoluely no substancial relationship to one another. compare apples to apples and we'll be confused by the clarity i imagine.
Note that you can do with ANSI C whatever you like: you can implement or not implement whatever parts you like. Not so with Java under the current licenses.
:) )to a room and come out with a jvm, i should think i don't have to license anything from anyone.
maybe this is why so many c compilers fail to implement the entire ansi-c standard? extending the standard is one thing, but not being required to implement selective parts of it is not a good reputation to have.
why do you say a closed-door implementation of a jvm would violate licensing from sun? if i take the specs, a few computers and a few monkies (just kidding
pretty much complete for a JDK that's been out for at least 4 years? sounds about like the progress the wine folks are having. and the sun source code is openly available (anyone can download it); just the re-implementors can't risk taking a peek at it.
btw, i'm not sure about your free/open source implementations of java statement. eclipse/tomcat are not implementations of java, they're java applications that run on top of the jdk (java class library implementation). the main opensource jdk is the blackdown jdk which is a port of sun's jdk and is not free . it's basically a port of the sun source code to linux licensed to the blackdown folks specificly to port to linux. hell, linux distributors can't even include it in their distro w/o reprocussions from sun. sun wants to force microsoft to include the jre with their product, why not even allow the linux distributors to openly distribute it?
+1 for wanting sun releasing the jdk under a BSD-ish (netbeans/openoffice) type license. i'm not going to hold my breath though.
afaik, you can't purchase one. you can only rent them right now from the companies that make them. they don't want you opening up the case to figgure out how they work and find ways to easily mod the device.
i'm sure if these are ever required in cars, they'll be quickly modded as others have said.
i agree John Dvorak is the /. troll poster child. besides, JD hasn't seen the Blue Linux. He's talked to people who have claimed to have seen it. You know, friend of a friend of a friend type thing.
in that article, he talks about things like pricing, and how xp should cost 29$ b/c every cent after the first day of sales is gravy. he fails to comprehend how in business, there's a concept of market value. you sell a product for the highest you can sell it for, and a buyer pays as low as they can for something. where those two meet, you have a price point. in market value, it assumes that all products are equal. if you only have one vendor for desktop os (that's compatible with the PHB required MS-Office) you hvae quite a bit of control over setting that market value.
personally, i'm a postgresql fanboy for now. being a mostly unix only rdbms, it's limited as well. lots of people develop on the desktop and would benefit from a local rdbms system that's easy to install and configure. i never understand the MySQL interest myself.
i would like to try out the 1.5 firebird. currently, gentoo portage only has 1.0? so it's a manual install. perhaps i'll give it a shot one day at work when i have a free 5 minutes.
interesting, that would be a lot of bandwidth. perhaps they could just _sell_ the dvd's. they don't have to offer free downloads. let other people host the torrent or what ever after a few people buy it. heck it's probably easier to pay 5$ than to download 4gb software.