The original point still stands. How many chances should Microsoft get before we call them on it? Everytime a new version comes out, people will say good things about it, until the next version, then the same people will agree that the previous version sucks, but, hey, this *BRAND NEW* version would be great!!!
Windows Mobile WINCE KIN Danger damn, I don't even remember all the different versions... each one "different" and "better than the last" and "market tested".
When Android was 7 months old, it was 7 months old from *GROUND UP*
When Windows Phone 7 was 7 months old - this is the *SEVENTH* version of Windows Phone - how can you compare it this way?
So, Microsoft gets to go pass Go and collect $200 every time they bump a version number? They get to reset everything and all the sins of the past gets washed away?
why the hell would you change anything? This UID=500 is yet another in the long line of redcrap stupidities (and I'm RHCE4), but you *CAN* create users with UID of 500 if you want to.
And if you're upgrading, I doubt if they would erase/etc/passwd unless that's SOP for redcrap upgrades. it's been so long since I have to suffer through redcrap.
I'm using Outlook 2010. Ctrl-C, Ctrl-V didn't work for me. I thought I was being stupid, so I actually pulled in witnesses to all the stupidity.
Synching and exporting the 2Gig file - no idea what is wrong. Seriously. I'm sitting there, watching this - not running anything else box - just going I know I can, I know I can. But it's not the primary mailbox, it's secondary mailboxes I've attached to. I think Outlook just has issues with secondary mailboxes, because my primary mailbox (ie, *MY* mail acct) syncs across pretty quickly, and my mailbox is 4-5Gig in size.
OST->PST: No standalone tools is what I mean. Obviously I know about Export - that's what I was doing and watching it go for one whole day...
As for File -> Import and Export - I know. Now go find it in Outlook 2010. They screwed with it.
Expletives: I was expected to deliver that crap much earlier. Kept having to delay cos this shit just doesn't work. Bleh. Fucking embarrassment.
I've been using outlook for 2+ years at my last place, and 4 years here. As part of normal day to day work, it's... "OK". But when I had to do something outside the range of "normal", it sucks ass.
That would be me. Fuck Microsoft and its shitty OutFuckingLook. I've wasted 3 weeks of my life because of that piece of shit.
1) Can't *COPY* a piece of mail, have to move it. So I have to export the mailbox in order not to screw with the user's mailbox. 2) exporting a 2Gig file out of outlook can take 1 whole business day. 3) Hell, syncing a 2G mailbox from sexchange can take 1 whole business day. 4) why is there no tools to convert from OST to PST?! 5) And how do you export to PST? File -> Open -> Import -> Export to a file. WHAT THE FUCK? 6) Indexing sucks more ass. I have a quad core 16Gig system. 1% cpu utilization. But NOOOOO, MICROFUCK MAKES IT SO THAT I HAVE TO WAIT ONE WHOLE FUCKING DAY FOR THE INDEXING TO RUN IN THE BACKGROUND WITH NO WAY TO INCREASE PRIORITY. 7) OK, now all done. WHERE THE FUCK IS THE SEARCH MENU? OH, IT'S PLAYING FUCKING HIDE AND SEEK. You have to click on the search box, then the fucking search menu pops up (so that I can find out what is the current indexing status) 8) Really, Microsoft, is it SO FUCKING HARD TO MAKE IT AN OPTION TO MAKE SEARCH ALL SUBFOLDERS THE DEFAULT? I'M IN THERE *SEARCHING* FOR SHIT. Why WOULD I NOT WANT TO SEARCH ALL THE FUCKING SUB FOLDERS?! WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU MORONS!
So, how many business days did I just waste, just so that I can search a mailbox for some terms and create a new mailbox with those emails?
On unix, with maildir, I can run swish-e, and be done in a couple of hours. The HATE AND LOATHING I have for OutFuckingLook just cannot be understated.
bill gate's daddy is a rich lawyer. When bill gates went to high school, his tuition was $5000. That same year, Harvard's tuition only cost $1500. When bill gates' high school wanted a computer, the families held a yard sale to raise money. They bought a PDP-11 with that money. Which cost about $150,000.
only reason IBM went to microsoft - bill gate's mommy served on the same charity board as the ceo of IBM - and introduced bill gates to IBM's ceo...
*WRONG* on so many fronts. You were provided a URL below, so you can read it. But. And here is the important part. *YOU CANNOT TAKE SOMEONE ELSE'S CODE AND RE-LICENSE IT AS YOUR OWN. YOU DO NOT HAVE THAT RIGHT.
*YOUR RIGHT* is to USE the code under a BSD, GPL or another license, as licensed to you by the copyright owner.
what in the world are you smoking? People who've looked at disk structures say that NTFS is just like VMS fs - you know, the OS that Dave Cutler wrote at |D|I|G|I|T|A|L|
eh? The last wireless fiasco I remembered was one of the linux wireless guys stealing openbsd's reversed engineered code, and re-releasing it as their own. I guess you can say they threw away encumbered code as they reverse engineered and re-wrote it.
why do people keep blaming obama when it's the entire system? The current plan was started by bush, but everyone just conveniently forgets about it. And yes, obama is to blame too, for continuing the bullshit. But *THEY ALL* suck
That's what Microsoft claimed to me as well. We even ran that Wolf thing - the Microsoft online forensics tool. Yet, HBGary clearly showed an external driver running. And one week later, we found an AV package that found the fucking virus and cleared it out.
This was on a windows 2008 R2 server.
So, no matter what Microsoft claims, the truth is - malware can still load unsigned drivers.
specs mean diddly squat when the usability factor is superior.
I had a dual pentium-3 1.4ghz + 2Gig ram box in 2002 running linux. I was given a free 450Mhz G4. Put 10.2 on it. Slowly, over the next 6 months, we all migrated to it, and left the 2x1.4ghz box alone. And I was running KDE, which is a fine desktop.
I don't know about Linux on the desktop, but the original saying was UNIX on the desktop, and guess what, there's 100mil iphones, god knows how many droids, 15+mil ipads, some webOS, etc etc out there.
And Apple is the biggest UNIX vendor in the world.
my company is one of the biggest fans of microsoft - we go microsoft everything, and even the director and VP of IT says WP7 sucks. How the hell is WP7 "well regarded"?????
I am really interested to see a case where putting a Microsoft solution in means reducing the support staff by 20 people, where the software and hardware licenses were less than $1mil combined. I have never heard of that happening.
Additionally, while I'm personally pushing for AD at my company, your bringing in AD was a bad choice. With LDAP, as least you have hard to crack passwords. With rare exceptions, I have not heard of places that are fully ntlm and have disabled lanman or have passwords that are not found in a rainbow table.
Just how did Active Directory help you eh, when every single password is trivially obtainable? And if you take SANS 560, the class penetration test class, you'll find out that you don't even need the password to get admin rights. Google for "pass the hash" if you're interested.
Isn't a directory service supposed to be secure? With passwords not trivially hackable? With administrative access not obtainable with a trivial hack? How the hell is AD "Just works"???
oh, you mean it seems to work. Novell had the 28 days or 30 days of Active Directory right before AD was released. Google for that and see all the issues with AD. Not scalable. Sync issues. In 1998, Novell's NDS was capable of supporting 2 billion users. with less than 5 seconds for authentication. On 1998 hardware.
Oh yeah, explain to me why it is impossible to get an accurate "last login" time from Active Directory from querying one Active Directory server (if you have a bunch of AD servers). Why do we need to buy something like http://www.dovestones.com/products/True_Last_Logon.asp to get an accurate "True Last Login" time for users?
The more you dive in deep into Microsoft's services, the more you find out how stupid things can be.
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The original point still stands. How many chances should Microsoft get before we call them on it? Everytime a new version comes out, people will say good things about it, until the next version, then the same people will agree that the previous version sucks, but, hey, this *BRAND NEW* version would be great!!!
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damn, I don't even remember all the different versions... each one "different" and "better than the last" and "market tested".
Why are you apologizing for Microsoft?
When Android was 7 months old, it was 7 months old from *GROUND UP*
When Windows Phone 7 was 7 months old - this is the *SEVENTH* version of Windows Phone - how can you compare it this way?
So, Microsoft gets to go pass Go and collect $200 every time they bump a version number? They get to reset everything and all the sins of the past gets washed away?
Hogwash.
you forget one thing. Typically RSA tokens are used for the high value shit, the hardest to get to, most protected shit.
so, this is RSA token being duplicated. Guess what. Major fault.
why the hell would you change anything? This UID=500 is yet another in the long line of redcrap stupidities (and I'm RHCE4), but you *CAN* create users with UID of 500 if you want to.
And if you're upgrading, I doubt if they would erase /etc/passwd unless that's SOP for redcrap upgrades. it's been so long since I have to suffer through redcrap.
are you a mucking foron? Did you even follow the case?
I'm using Outlook 2010. Ctrl-C, Ctrl-V didn't work for me. I thought I was being stupid, so I actually pulled in witnesses to all the stupidity.
Synching and exporting the 2Gig file - no idea what is wrong. Seriously. I'm sitting there, watching this - not running anything else box - just going I know I can, I know I can. But it's not the primary mailbox, it's secondary mailboxes I've attached to. I think Outlook just has issues with secondary mailboxes, because my primary mailbox (ie, *MY* mail acct) syncs across pretty quickly, and my mailbox is 4-5Gig in size.
OST->PST: No standalone tools is what I mean. Obviously I know about Export - that's what I was doing and watching it go for one whole day...
As for File -> Import and Export - I know. Now go find it in Outlook 2010. They screwed with it.
Expletives: I was expected to deliver that crap much earlier. Kept having to delay cos this shit just doesn't work. Bleh. Fucking embarrassment.
I've been using outlook for 2+ years at my last place, and 4 years here. As part of normal day to day work, it's... "OK". But when I had to do something outside the range of "normal", it sucks ass.
That would be me. Fuck Microsoft and its shitty OutFuckingLook. I've wasted 3 weeks of my life because of that piece of shit.
1) Can't *COPY* a piece of mail, have to move it. So I have to export the mailbox in order not to screw with the user's mailbox.
2) exporting a 2Gig file out of outlook can take 1 whole business day.
3) Hell, syncing a 2G mailbox from sexchange can take 1 whole business day.
4) why is there no tools to convert from OST to PST?!
5) And how do you export to PST? File -> Open -> Import -> Export to a file. WHAT THE FUCK?
6) Indexing sucks more ass. I have a quad core 16Gig system. 1% cpu utilization. But NOOOOO, MICROFUCK MAKES IT SO THAT I HAVE TO WAIT ONE WHOLE FUCKING DAY FOR THE INDEXING TO RUN IN THE BACKGROUND WITH NO WAY TO INCREASE PRIORITY.
7) OK, now all done. WHERE THE FUCK IS THE SEARCH MENU? OH, IT'S PLAYING FUCKING HIDE AND SEEK. You have to click on the search box, then the fucking search menu pops up (so that I can find out what is the current indexing status)
8) Really, Microsoft, is it SO FUCKING HARD TO MAKE IT AN OPTION TO MAKE SEARCH ALL SUBFOLDERS THE DEFAULT? I'M IN THERE *SEARCHING* FOR SHIT. Why WOULD I NOT WANT TO SEARCH ALL THE FUCKING SUB FOLDERS?! WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU MORONS!
So, how many business days did I just waste, just so that I can search a mailbox for some terms and create a new mailbox with those emails?
On unix, with maildir, I can run swish-e, and be done in a couple of hours. The HATE AND LOATHING I have for OutFuckingLook just cannot be understated.
bill gate's daddy is a rich lawyer. When bill gates went to high school, his tuition was $5000. That same year, Harvard's tuition only cost $1500. When bill gates' high school wanted a computer, the families held a yard sale to raise money. They bought a PDP-11 with that money. Which cost about $150,000.
only reason IBM went to microsoft - bill gate's mommy served on the same charity board as the ceo of IBM - and introduced bill gates to IBM's ceo...
you tell me if bill gates was "wealthy"...
*WRONG* on so many fronts. You were provided a URL below, so you can read it. But. And here is the important part. *YOU CANNOT TAKE SOMEONE ELSE'S CODE AND RE-LICENSE IT AS YOUR OWN. YOU DO NOT HAVE THAT RIGHT.
*YOUR RIGHT* is to USE the code under a BSD, GPL or another license, as licensed to you by the copyright owner.
obtasteless: That's because you haven't tasted a well cooked dog...
what in the world are you smoking? People who've looked at disk structures say that NTFS is just like VMS fs - you know, the OS that Dave Cutler wrote at |D|I|G|I|T|A|L|
eh? The last wireless fiasco I remembered was one of the linux wireless guys stealing openbsd's reversed engineered code, and re-releasing it as their own. I guess you can say they threw away encumbered code as they reverse engineered and re-wrote it.
http://cm.bell-labs.com/who/ken/trust.html
'nuff said.
why do people keep blaming obama when it's the entire system? The current plan was started by bush, but everyone just conveniently forgets about it. And yes, obama is to blame too, for continuing the bullshit. But *THEY ALL* suck
That's what Microsoft claimed to me as well. We even ran that Wolf thing - the Microsoft online forensics tool. Yet, HBGary clearly showed an external driver running. And one week later, we found an AV package that found the fucking virus and cleared it out.
This was on a windows 2008 R2 server.
So, no matter what Microsoft claims, the truth is - malware can still load unsigned drivers.
specs mean diddly squat when the usability factor is superior.
I had a dual pentium-3 1.4ghz + 2Gig ram box in 2002 running linux. I was given a free 450Mhz G4. Put 10.2 on it. Slowly, over the next 6 months, we all migrated to it, and left the 2x1.4ghz box alone. And I was running KDE, which is a fine desktop.
I don't know about Linux on the desktop, but the original saying was UNIX on the desktop, and guess what, there's 100mil iphones, god knows how many droids, 15+mil ipads, some webOS, etc etc out there.
And Apple is the biggest UNIX vendor in the world.
Isn't things strange...?
my company is one of the biggest fans of microsoft - we go microsoft everything, and even the director and VP of IT says WP7 sucks. How the hell is WP7 "well regarded"?????
one of these days I must go look up my 2000+ ID. And like you, I waited a long time before signing up.
err, WTF? Has social norm changed in such a way that behaving *STUPIDLY* is now OK, and *NOT BEHAVING STUPIDLY* is considered paranoid?!
nobody runs slackware anymore?
you are crazy. that mentality is why the US has such a fucked up wireless infrastructure.
we had 7 companies setting 7 different fucking wireless infrastructure.
all wildly incompatible with each other. it took a lot of work to make them work with each other. wasted time, money and effort.
I am really interested to see a case where putting a Microsoft solution in means reducing the support staff by 20 people, where the software and hardware licenses were less than $1mil combined. I have never heard of that happening.
Additionally, while I'm personally pushing for AD at my company, your bringing in AD was a bad choice. With LDAP, as least you have hard to crack passwords. With rare exceptions, I have not heard of places that are fully ntlm and have disabled lanman or have passwords that are not found in a rainbow table.
Just how did Active Directory help you eh, when every single password is trivially obtainable? And if you take SANS 560, the class penetration test class, you'll find out that you don't even need the password to get admin rights. Google for "pass the hash" if you're interested.
Isn't a directory service supposed to be secure? With passwords not trivially hackable? With administrative access not obtainable with a trivial hack? How the hell is AD "Just works"???
oh, you mean it seems to work. Novell had the 28 days or 30 days of Active Directory right before AD was released. Google for that and see all the issues with AD. Not scalable. Sync issues. In 1998, Novell's NDS was capable of supporting 2 billion users. with less than 5 seconds for authentication. On 1998 hardware.
Oh yeah, explain to me why it is impossible to get an accurate "last login" time from Active Directory from querying one Active Directory server (if you have a bunch of AD servers). Why do we need to buy something like http://www.dovestones.com/products/True_Last_Logon.asp to get an accurate "True Last Login" time for users?
The more you dive in deep into Microsoft's services, the more you find out how stupid things can be.
and unix geeks such as the London perlmongers moving to an Apple platform indicates what? Perlmongers care about the color of their shoes?