Come on - he worked in college doing desktop support - that's your "work for free" bit right there.
When I was in college, I worked as the main IT help desk, and worked a little with the mainframe folks. I guarantee you our mainframe/vax admins (and unix admins) did not buy the deal of the day from Circuit City when they needed new drives.
Even in the school environment, there's two classes of people, one who know what they are doing, and one who does not.
No no no, the slashdot mentality is that it has to be cheap. Nothing beats cheap and a butt load of spare time.
When fucking morons without engineering degrees comment on engineering issues, you know you have a problem. And yes, a fucking rubber grommet can cause issues if you don't know what you're doing. But the OP doesn't understand such simple engineering concepts.
See, I love people stating as facts things that they have no idea about. Do you work in a hard drive manufacturing facility? Do you work anywhere in the hard drive supply chain? What evidence do you offer that they do no actual testing?
What a fucking moron.
And while I'm just another slashdot luser, I do have friends who work in the hard drive manufacturing facilities, and he told me that all the tier-1 vendors do specify additional testing for their server class equipment. In retail consumer (read, best buy, newegg, etc), the manufacturer tests x units out of a thousand. In tier-1 vendors, they test every single unit.
I don't expect you to believe me. But I do believe my friend over your bullshit.
Not sure why all the home user kit users are commenting on server grade equipment? Why not blast IBM, HP, Dell, etc for their high end prices too, for the server kit?
You just installed something that can potentially impact the stability of your mainframe - you know, the one machine that you want to stay up no matter what.
Unused cycles don't cost you anything. Downtime caused by stupid people cost you lots.
That's because Microsoft was wrongly given the trademark. You are not allowed to trademark common words. See Lindows lawsuit, and why Microsoft gave Lindows shitloads of money to go away after Microsoft sued Lindows.
Using Einstein's one example can prove you wrong, I have two:
1) When I first came to.us ~20 years ago as a student, I wanted to buy the easy-to-use-pen-form of "liquid paper" that I have been using for over 10 years prior. Couldn't find it. Liquid Paper + thinner bottle were all over the place though. It wasn't until the mid-90s when catalogs started talking about the "innovative" and "spill-less" and "no-thinner required" pen form of these things. Why?
2) I was trying to find a nice walkman. In the late 80s, I had a nice Aiwa walkman model something-303. Size of a casette box (obviously in only 2 dimensions - it was just a tad thicker than a good casette box). Came with a remote control, all digital controls, etc. Walked in to circuit city to get one for my wife. Only had the cheap junky crap. Apparently only stores like the sharper image *might* have the _midrange_ models that were available in Asia.
I asked why in both cases, and were told that it was difficult to bring things in. Forgot exactly what was the reason given.
[ob old joke] What do you call someone who speaks 3 languagues? Trilingual What do you call someone who speaks 2 languages? Bilingual What do you call someone who speaks 1 language? American
Rough Edges vs Sucks. Heh. It sucks because they sold us on huge expectations that they're incapable of meeting. That's why I said it sucks. Really, in a day to day setting, does it "suck" or is it just rough edges, I'd agree with you, just rough edges.
OTOH, your statement that staroffice was usable is something I'm unable to fathom. I did use 4.0 and 5.0 before, and toss them away with a vengence. Now, that obnoxious "I own your desktop, *muahahaha*" attitude really really sucked.
You bring up a good point. But, really, isn't it better to teach the students what a general markup should look like (say, using TeX), and then helping them map that to MS Office and other "office" products?
I should file a report. But renaming the file is just a work around. If something as simple as this still exist, what other silliness still exist? Not that I'm saying MS Office is perfect, mind you. As I pointed out in the other posts, MS Office has really stupid things too.
I guess, ultimately, what happens is that I had extremely high expectations of OO.o based on what SUNW said when they acquired it. One of the key things I remember was that they were going to modularize everything, and you can even embed just a small piece of it in your app if you need just that piece (say, draw a table, or need a calculator). Unfortunately, OO.o appears to be a giant monstrosity that that lumbers along. And everyone seem to give them a free pass, or lower expectations, just because it is the "main" OSS competitor to MS Office.
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Gee, your other equipment never failed either huh. Please, can you buy some xbox 360s for me, so that I can avoid the RRODs and the newer bugs too?
You mean, a BMW is better than a Yugo? Seriously? Do tell!
And, unfortunately, in the Idiocracy world we live in, most people can't understand that.
Long live Electrolytes!
Come on - he worked in college doing desktop support - that's your "work for free" bit right there.
When I was in college, I worked as the main IT help desk, and worked a little with the mainframe folks. I guarantee you our mainframe/vax admins (and unix admins) did not buy the deal of the day from Circuit City when they needed new drives.
Even in the school environment, there's two classes of people, one who know what they are doing, and one who does not.
No no no, the slashdot mentality is that it has to be cheap. Nothing beats cheap and a butt load of spare time.
When fucking morons without engineering degrees comment on engineering issues, you know you have a problem. And yes, a fucking rubber grommet can cause issues if you don't know what you're doing. But the OP doesn't understand such simple engineering concepts.
Well come to Idiocracy. I love electrolytes!
See, I love people stating as facts things that they have no idea about. Do you work in a hard drive manufacturing facility? Do you work anywhere in the hard drive supply chain? What evidence do you offer that they do no actual testing?
What a fucking moron.
And while I'm just another slashdot luser, I do have friends who work in the hard drive manufacturing facilities, and he told me that all the tier-1 vendors do specify additional testing for their server class equipment. In retail consumer (read, best buy, newegg, etc), the manufacturer tests x units out of a thousand. In tier-1 vendors, they test every single unit.
I don't expect you to believe me. But I do believe my friend over your bullshit.
Not sure why all the home user kit users are commenting on server grade equipment? Why not blast IBM, HP, Dell, etc for their high end prices too, for the server kit?
But, based on this: http://cbs13.com/watercooler/Paraplegic.Man.Suffers.2.960606.html
he walked after *5* days of physical therapy. *Your* summary is misleading too. 5 days to walk is a miracle.
Of course. I find it extremely easy to lip read a raised middle finger.
Can you share some of whatever illegal drugs it is that you're using?
You're speaking as if this is starcraft. It still takes vespene gas and minerals please!!!
And is it really true, they're coming out with SC2 on June?
Because you don't understand the meaning of the word "holy".
Still god damned stupid.
You just installed something that can potentially impact the stability of your mainframe - you know, the one machine that you want to stay up no matter what.
Unused cycles don't cost you anything. Downtime caused by stupid people cost you lots.
That's because Microsoft was wrongly given the trademark. You are not allowed to trademark common words. See Lindows lawsuit, and why Microsoft gave Lindows shitloads of money to go away after Microsoft sued Lindows.
All documented here, your local slashdot archive.
If you consider Jesus holy
By that standard, Jews and Muslims are Christians too!
And so, you prefer NVidia's clusterfuck that's going on right now, and has been for the past 18 months or so?
Using Einstein's one example can prove you wrong, I have two:
1) When I first came to .us ~20 years ago as a student, I wanted to buy the easy-to-use-pen-form of "liquid paper" that I have been using for over 10 years prior. Couldn't find it. Liquid Paper + thinner bottle were all over the place though. It wasn't until the mid-90s when catalogs started talking about the "innovative" and "spill-less" and "no-thinner required" pen form of these things. Why?
2) I was trying to find a nice walkman. In the late 80s, I had a nice Aiwa walkman model something-303. Size of a casette box (obviously in only 2 dimensions - it was just a tad thicker than a good casette box). Came with a remote control, all digital controls, etc. Walked in to circuit city to get one for my wife. Only had the cheap junky crap. Apparently only stores like the sharper image *might* have the _midrange_ models that were available in Asia.
I asked why in both cases, and were told that it was difficult to bring things in. Forgot exactly what was the reason given.
Don't you know, every American speaks english.
[ob old joke]
What do you call someone who speaks 3 languagues? Trilingual
What do you call someone who speaks 2 languages? Bilingual
What do you call someone who speaks 1 language? American
net/phone-slang ? I tried to emerge that, and nothing happened. Is this a new variant of slang that supports voip? Where can I get it?
Since I've not tasted the "Warm sex of the monkey", can you please elaborate and tell me what it tastes like?
-walks away hoping it's not chicken!
**SPOILER ALERT**
In book 8, it turns out that good ol' Voldy is actually Harry's older brother. They had a tearful reunion, and Voldy now works for Harry.
Rough Edges vs Sucks. Heh. It sucks because they sold us on huge expectations that they're incapable of meeting. That's why I said it sucks. Really, in a day to day setting, does it "suck" or is it just rough edges, I'd agree with you, just rough edges.
OTOH, your statement that staroffice was usable is something I'm unable to fathom. I did use 4.0 and 5.0 before, and toss them away with a vengence. Now, that obnoxious "I own your desktop, *muahahaha*" attitude really really sucked.
sometimes, there are stupid interfaces, and other times, there are stupid users.
just saying.
You bring up a good point. But, really, isn't it better to teach the students what a general markup should look like (say, using TeX), and then helping them map that to MS Office and other "office" products?
I should file a report. But renaming the file is just a work around. If something as simple as this still exist, what other silliness still exist? Not that I'm saying MS Office is perfect, mind you. As I pointed out in the other posts, MS Office has really stupid things too.
I guess, ultimately, what happens is that I had extremely high expectations of OO.o based on what SUNW said when they acquired it. One of the key things I remember was that they were going to modularize everything, and you can even embed just a small piece of it in your app if you need just that piece (say, draw a table, or need a calculator). Unfortunately, OO.o appears to be a giant monstrosity that that lumbers along. And everyone seem to give them a free pass, or lower expectations, just because it is the "main" OSS competitor to MS Office.
Gee, so we have moron modders at work, and therefore the points I make aren't valid? I like your debating style.
But, to come back to the exchange/outlook combo, I would like to see a list of features other than a generic "centralized co-ordination features.
And in answer to your question, would a GPL v3 app suffice? http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/09/19/2023252