The article seems to have neglected to mention what kind of music Kirkley actually found. He released a few volumes of "Music from Saharan Cellphones", which can be purchased here: https://sahelsounds.bandcamp.c...
I quite like some of it, and the hipster cachet it conveys is pretty considerable as well.
I once read a study of string quartets and communication methods. Some quartets were nice to each other and polite and tried not to hurt each other's feelings. Others insulted each other and said just what they thought.
But they did this in rehearsal, in a small group. Pretty sure if they did this in public, their employment would be confined to circuses.
Linux is not the only OSS project there is, and Linus’ way of running it is not the only way there is. Rubyists, e.g., used to aspire to MINASWAN (Matz is nice and so we are nice), and even at its most dysfunctional, abuse in the Perl community was held in check by the fact that Larry Wall is a thoroughly decent guy.
If you’re interested in contributing to a project, it’s easy enough to listen in on the mailing lists and figure out whether the tone appeals to you.
Telling me "you made a stupid fucking mistake" isn't any worse than "Please don't take this too harshly and please don't think I am picking on you. I like you and you are a swell fellow and all. However, I feel it is necessary that I impress upon you that this isn't really a bug and having this trivial and non-broken thing filed as a bug has consumed a little bit of our time that we would rather not be wasting on things like this. Also, here is a pat on the back and an atta-boy so you don't feel I am being mean to you, okay?".
Or you could say “this works as designed”, thus keeping the focus on technology, as it should be, instead of needlessly dragging people issues into it.
Some managers think shouting and yelling is appropriate, others manage to do without.
Rumor is Apple managers are all like that, but I can't comment on that rumor.
I’ve come across an occasional rude manager at Apple, but in my experience they constitute a tiny minority. Most engineers here wouldn’t stand for that kind of treatment. Jobs could certainly be that way at times, but luckily this part of his style was not all that contagious.
Cocoa crucially depends on reflection features of the underlying language (obtaining classes, calling methods and manipulating data members by name). Lisp would obviously qualify for this (for sufficiently large values of "Lisp"), but standard Ada and Eiffel would be completely unsuited to the task, and I doubt OCaml would be suited.
I could see Ruby become an increasingly serious contender, though. Right now, the primary problem is that debugging is messier than in an Objective-C app, but otherwise, it's an excellent match.
Ah I see, I had overlooked the fact that you wrote Test::Builder as well. That one does seem to be very widely used - nice job!
I submit that the world of CPAN was not quite as void and without form before you entered it as you make it out to be, and that you did not cast as much light into it as you believe.
I stand corrected regarding the second part of my statement - Test::Builder IS widely used. Still, I can assure you that even Perl 4 came with a sizeable set of unit tests.
Maybe someone would have written it if I hadn't
Maybe YOU would have written it for Perl 5 anyway, even if there hadn't been a Perl 6 project? The last few years have seen a proliferation of unit testing libraries in all languages, and in most of them, Extreme/Agile Programming seems to have had more to do with it than Perl 6.
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Ironically, Switzerland uses a three prong power plug design that is used almost nowhere else in the world.
If that was the first development release, what on earth was the 2010 release of Rakudo Star?
The problem with Perl 6 was never a lack of development releases, it's 15 years of NOTHING BUT development releases.
The article seems to have neglected to mention what kind of music Kirkley actually found. He released a few volumes of "Music from Saharan Cellphones", which can be purchased here: https://sahelsounds.bandcamp.c...
I quite like some of it, and the hipster cachet it conveys is pretty considerable as well.
Rip. Mix. Burn.
Some people would argue by a similar logic that "Apple" is really a rebranded NeXT.
I once read a study of string quartets and communication methods. Some quartets were nice to each other and polite and tried not to hurt each other's feelings. Others insulted each other and said just what they thought.
But they did this in rehearsal, in a small group. Pretty sure if they did this in public, their employment would be confined to circuses.
Linux is not the only OSS project there is, and Linus’ way of running it is not the only way there is. Rubyists, e.g., used to aspire to MINASWAN (Matz is nice and so we are nice), and even at its most dysfunctional, abuse in the Perl community was held in check by the fact that Larry Wall is a thoroughly decent guy.
If you’re interested in contributing to a project, it’s easy enough to listen in on the mailing lists and figure out whether the tone appeals to you.
Telling me "you made a stupid fucking mistake" isn't any worse than "Please don't take this too harshly and please don't think I am picking on you. I like you and you are a swell fellow and all. However, I feel it is necessary that I impress upon you that this isn't really a bug and having this trivial and non-broken thing filed as a bug has consumed a little bit of our time that we would rather not be wasting on things like this. Also, here is a pat on the back and an atta-boy so you don't feel I am being mean to you, okay?".
Or you could say “this works as designed”, thus keeping the focus on technology, as it should be, instead of needlessly dragging people issues into it.
Some managers think shouting and yelling is appropriate, others manage to do without.
Rumor is Apple managers are all like that, but I can't comment on that rumor.
I’ve come across an occasional rude manager at Apple, but in my experience they constitute a tiny minority. Most engineers here wouldn’t stand for that kind of treatment. Jobs could certainly be that way at times, but luckily this part of his style was not all that contagious.
an army and a navy!
In any case, Portuguese would certainly qualify.
Happened to me a lot when I showed people my Kindle DX. First thing they tried was to touch the screen.
Yeah, they should name the crab "Kiwa hirsuta stallmanensis" in his honor.
Yeah, I wonder what real estate agents on the Canary Islands are going to say now.
Oh hallelujah, our problems are solved. We have banana bread.
Cocoa crucially depends on reflection features of the underlying language (obtaining classes, calling methods and manipulating data members by name). Lisp would obviously qualify for this (for sufficiently large values of "Lisp"), but standard Ada and Eiffel would be completely unsuited to the task, and I doubt OCaml would be suited.
I could see Ruby become an increasingly serious contender, though. Right now, the primary problem is that debugging is messier than in an Objective-C app, but otherwise, it's an excellent match.
The problem is that programming in Perl quite often is not a happy experience for the programmer. Too much magic. Too much line noise.
From the Perl 6 examples I've seen so far, the Perl 6 solution to this seems to be—more magic, and more line noise.
I am the local warlord, you insensitive clod!
If hating Microsoft is sick, I don't wanna be healthy!
Mod parent up!
However, I see MOBI files from various providers other than Amazon (e.g. Pragmatic Bookstore, and even Gutenberg). What is proprietary about MOBI?
If they train a dog to sniff out Bittorrent packets, I'll be truly impressed.
... and if you need a power of two based unit of speed, you use "dobi balls"
I'm looking forward to NC-17 rated superhero movies instead.
"Bigger, Bluer, and Uncut!"
The Halos
Sailor Halo
Need for Halo
Super Halo Brothers
Given that this was an ISP tech, putting a large paper bag over his head would probably be enough to hold him for as long as you want.
You keep making faulty assumptions...
Ah I see, I had overlooked the fact that you wrote Test::Builder as well. That one does seem to be very widely used - nice job!
I stand corrected regarding the second part of my statement - Test::Builder IS widely used. Still, I can assure you that even Perl 4 came with a sizeable set of unit tests.
Maybe someone would have written it if I hadn't
Maybe YOU would have written it for Perl 5 anyway, even if there hadn't been a Perl 6 project? The last few years have seen a proliferation of unit testing libraries in all languages, and in most of them, Extreme/Agile Programming seems to have had more to do with it than Perl 6.
Though nice Biblical strawman, by the way.
Thanks! I strive to steal from the best.