You would be correct about PF and OpenSSH. I use FreeBSD on my desktop. (but not here. Stuck with WinXP.)
But PF and OpenSSH were/started/ at a hackathon and are now open projects and open for much discussion. My point in my original post was not taken in the right way. I meant to say that if Theo wants everyone to just code and not discuss their methods, then he'll end up with a million different implementations of something each with its own set of problems.
I do, however, retract most of my statement. OpenBSD IS a niche OS, and won't be winning any awards for user penetration. The hackathons DO start good projects, too, but that's all they will do, start them. If the community isn't involved, these projects will not be as good as they could be.
You're absolutely correct. And I also think it would be an even better use in county jails. Prisoners are moving much more in prisons like this, and guards have to be much more vigilant. As you said, people are in and out all the time. Remember, this is only for monitoring them while IN prison.
Many innocent people ARE locked up, yes, but this could help protect them from the guy next door awaiting trial for mugging thirty-two people.
No, if I'm in awaiting trial, I should wear it. They should know my whereabouts within the prison.
If I have been accused of a crime, and have not been allowed bail, there is some credibility to the charges I've been brought on.
They are not being treated badly. Hell, I'd be HAPPY if I was in a prison with one of these. Think about it. Get your ass whooped? They know who did it. Not only that, but if someone else claims YOU did something to them, you can prove yourself. Not only that, but I'd say there'd probably be less lockdowns - times when ALL prisoners lose ALL privileges because of a security breach or fight.
For another 3 years and 6 months. After that, the american people aren't allowed to elect dubya any more. Real-ID is gonna get shot down by the states soon enough anyway. My PA ID would already meet the requirements of the act (MagStripe, UPC code of license no, and PDF214 barcode of the info on the front, etc etc), why would they pay to go do it over again? Ed Rendell will be bitching.
Have a little faith in the checks and balances yet... if we're still going downhill in 2008, you can tell me you told me so.
They do not have freedom. They committed some violation of rules that society has deemed it neccesary that they be locked up. Away from society. It is VERY important to public security that their whereabouts be known at all times while in prison. It is also VERY hard to do with 18,000 inmates and only a few hundred (maybe thousand) correctional officers.
This is NOT the first step on a slipperly slope. The government doesn't really care that at 1PM every day, I go take a shit. There's no way even if they DID care that they could seriously mark every citizen with an RFID and track their whereabouts, Real-ID or not. They can't even keep track of how many illegal immigrants there are!
Remember, we still do afford a certain amount of control on our government. If they DID try to monitor every citizen's whereabouts, it would be shot down by the general public even if the only reason is their taxes would go up.
Please remove the tin foil hat, because in this case, it's too damn expensive.
Theorizing, planning, and discussing projects are always important. If you have 60 developers all going in their own direction, you have 60 ideas that are not completely congruent with eachother. Ongoing discussion and planning always results in a better end product than everyone doing their own thing.
If your motto is "shut up and hack", you stymie innovation by not allowing the pros and cons of a certian method of approach to be discussed and refined. While you are correct that discussions can become antiproductive, they are, however, a very useful tool that SHOULD NOT be excluded.
Unfortunately, doctors look at people who know what they need or want as drug abusers.
Example: Last year, I had such a bad sore throat, that I ended up in the ER and got prednisone and vicodin for pain. Since it was a viral infection, I was not given antibiotics. When I returned to my hometown, I ran out of pain meds and went to my local ER to request more. When I mentioned Vicodin, I was sent out with nothing more than instructions to gargle salt water.
Doctors seem to know all and patients know nothing. Instructing your doctor that his chosen method of treatment is not the best for you never goes over well. At one time, I had an older doctor who was willing to listen to my suggestions, and I always left with a treatment plan that worked. He has since passed away, and my new doctor, while he means well, doesn't work the same way. Poor Blue Cross had to pay for me to go back four or five times when I was having recurring migraines, which went away just fine with a low dose of oxycodone because he refused to prescribe it. I now use Zomig for them, and tried various other tryptamine drugs with not-too-fun side effects before finally getting this. It still isn't as effective as an opioid, but what can I do?
Anyone who uses P2P software, including BitTorrent almost always has to have an argument with someone based on this subject.
Since before even Napster, I was downloading music. My CD collection has since grown into the low hundreds. Before this "revolution"? None. At all. I hate having to pay $12+ for a CD, and I CERTAINLY wasn't going to do it without hearing the music first. When I download TV torrents, I usually even <i>watch the commercials</i> if they're there. Why? Believe it or not, I don't find them that annoying. So what do they have to lose? They're getting viewers and still showing ads.
Every time I see an article like this, it brings a sparkle to my eye, because A. it means not everyone in the world is a cheap bastard, and B. it strengthens my argument.
If people as a whole were legally allowed to share copyrighted works without fear of legal action, people would be not only much much happier but the quality of our arts will improve - if the RIAA and the MPAA weren't shoving whatever they can down our throats, the good artists could come to light. But hey, That's Capitalism!(TM)
Well, pretty much everyone does. Even if they don't, usually states issue identification cards through the same system, anyway. Here in Pennsylvania, a PA ID Card is exactly the same as a PA Driver's License, except that the back says IDENTIFICATION ONLY - NOT TO BE USED AS A DRIVER'S LICENSE, and the license class field on the front is omitted. You are even issued a driver's license number, but the card and record indicate that you are licensed for no classes.
Clean, and safer (by rate of accidents) than coal or oil, correctly.
However, when an oil refinery explodes, hundreds may be killed, a huge fire producing toxins ensues, and eventually burns out. The toxins are swept away by natural processes.
When a nuclear reactor goes up, the carnage is just about the same, with one small difference: Everything left is radioactive. Radiation is spread in the atomsphere, and that one, isolated incident kills more than a refinery going kaboom ever could.
That's not the problem. I'd use it either way, patent encumbered or not. But remember the story from last week, stating that Wine now has legal backup to attract larger, enterprise developers who would have otherwise feared legal action? Those same developers will be shied away if there is a chance of legal action for working with the patent-encumbered code.
You made it, it's yours. Upon your death, your right to your works CEASES. YOU'RE FUCKING DEAD. Maybe it shouldn't even last that long, but from creation to death of creator seems fair.
People sharing music P2P for FREE should be legal. Nobody's making money off of your works, INCLUDING YOU. Probably because YOU SUCK THE BIG ONE at marketing.
I should have every right to do whatever I want with any signal that enters my home. IE, if Hughes insists on radiating my brain with their digital television signal, then I insist on decoding it and using it as I see fit. What if tomorrow, I fall on a pile of radioactive waste, and can suddenly decode the signal in my head? Are you gonna chop it off and use it as evidence against me in a DMCA Act lawsuit? IF YOU DON'T WANT ME TO TIME SHIFT OR FORMAT SHIFT OR SHARE OR EVEN SELL YOUR CONTENT, DO NOT SEND IT OVER PUBLIC AIRWAVES. If I threw a giant wad of cash at you, I'm sure you'd be much obliged to take it. So don't throw your EMR at me, because I'm going to do the same.
Musicians? I will pay to see you in person. I will pay a very small fee to cover your costs for the media and recording of your music. If you want me to give you a glamorous lifestyle because you can play repetitive, shitty music, FUCK YOU. I will NOT be poor so you can drive a fucking Porsche. It is ART, a PASSION, not a FUCKING CAREER.
I'm 18, and a student. For a living, I clean floors. The only laws that protect my living protect yours too. When I get a contract, it isn't for life. It's until I FUCK UP. I don't need no fucking laws to protect my livelihood, so you pussies shouldn't either. Metallica, BURN IN HELL. Unless you would enjoy that, that is, if that is the case, may fluffy white bunnies rape you all day long.
Well, yes, but OBD-II (On Board Diagnostics, Version II) is federally mandated, and the Society of Automotive Engineers has a set of standard codes for most every fault an ECM would detect. They also, however, made it possible for manufacturers to have proprietary codes, starting with 1. For example, if the oxygen sensor on my engine's #1 cylinder bank is indicating that the engine is running lean more than is allowed, and the ECU is correcting by running it intentionally rich, the SAE code would be P0130. However, my car, a Ford, gives the code P1311. Same exact meaning, but it's a Ford specific code. Fortunately for me, a quick search on the 'net found out what the code meant, but it wasn't in my book.
Fortunately, the Feds have said they cannot hide the definitions of codes like these as not only is it federally mandated that the diagnostics system be there, there is already a standard set of codes and definitions that works just fine.
When I first read the sentence, "Have you seen what MS does to people?", I thought, "JESUS H. CHRIST, how in the HELL does Microsoft get brought into an ELEVATOR DISCUSSION?!"
It wasn't until I thought about it for a second that I realized you meant Multiple Sclerosis. Oops.
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Non-toxic doesn't mean non-hazardous. Sure, sodium may not be biologically toxic, but have you ever thrown a chunk of it into water?
Yeah, and I came across as a dickhead.
Sorry, that's the effect of Posting Before Ready, in this case, insufficient coffee and nicotine at the time.
My apologies.
Did you TRY typing it in your browser? No? Oh, ok. You lose.
Then I stand corrected.
I read the quote and fired off, didn't RTFA. Must've been a bad day at work...
You would be correct about PF and OpenSSH. I use FreeBSD on my desktop. (but not here. Stuck with WinXP.)
/started/ at a hackathon and are now open projects and open for much discussion. My point in my original post was not taken in the right way. I meant to say that if Theo wants everyone to just code and not discuss their methods, then he'll end up with a million different implementations of something each with its own set of problems.
But PF and OpenSSH were
I do, however, retract most of my statement. OpenBSD IS a niche OS, and won't be winning any awards for user penetration. The hackathons DO start good projects, too, but that's all they will do, start them. If the community isn't involved, these projects will not be as good as they could be.
You're absolutely correct. And I also think it would be an even better use in county jails. Prisoners are moving much more in prisons like this, and guards have to be much more vigilant. As you said, people are in and out all the time. Remember, this is only for monitoring them while IN prison.
Many innocent people ARE locked up, yes, but this could help protect them from the guy next door awaiting trial for mugging thirty-two people.
No, if I'm in awaiting trial, I should wear it. They should know my whereabouts within the prison.
If I have been accused of a crime, and have not been allowed bail, there is some credibility to the charges I've been brought on.
They are not being treated badly. Hell, I'd be HAPPY if I was in a prison with one of these. Think about it. Get your ass whooped? They know who did it. Not only that, but if someone else claims YOU did something to them, you can prove yourself. Not only that, but I'd say there'd probably be less lockdowns - times when ALL prisoners lose ALL privileges because of a security breach or fight.
For another 3 years and 6 months. After that, the american people aren't allowed to elect dubya any more. Real-ID is gonna get shot down by the states soon enough anyway. My PA ID would already meet the requirements of the act (MagStripe, UPC code of license no, and PDF214 barcode of the info on the front, etc etc), why would they pay to go do it over again? Ed Rendell will be bitching.
Have a little faith in the checks and balances yet... if we're still going downhill in 2008, you can tell me you told me so.
People in prison have lost their liberty.
They do not have freedom. They committed some violation of rules that society has deemed it neccesary that they be locked up. Away from society. It is VERY important to public security that their whereabouts be known at all times while in prison. It is also VERY hard to do with 18,000 inmates and only a few hundred (maybe thousand) correctional officers.
This is NOT the first step on a slipperly slope. The government doesn't really care that at 1PM every day, I go take a shit. There's no way even if they DID care that they could seriously mark every citizen with an RFID and track their whereabouts, Real-ID or not. They can't even keep track of how many illegal immigrants there are!
Remember, we still do afford a certain amount of control on our government. If they DID try to monitor every citizen's whereabouts, it would be shot down by the general public even if the only reason is their taxes would go up.
Please remove the tin foil hat, because in this case, it's too damn expensive.
You don't see OpenBSD winning any awards for number of installations, do ya?
Didn't think so.
Theo, are you an idiot?
Theorizing, planning, and discussing projects are always important. If you have 60 developers all going in their own direction, you have 60 ideas that are not completely congruent with eachother. Ongoing discussion and planning always results in a better end product than everyone doing their own thing.
If your motto is "shut up and hack", you stymie innovation by not allowing the pros and cons of a certian method of approach to be discussed and refined. While you are correct that discussions can become antiproductive, they are, however, a very useful tool that SHOULD NOT be excluded.
Unfortunately, doctors look at people who know what they need or want as drug abusers.
Example: Last year, I had such a bad sore throat, that I ended up in the ER and got prednisone and vicodin for pain. Since it was a viral infection, I was not given antibiotics. When I returned to my hometown, I ran out of pain meds and went to my local ER to request more. When I mentioned Vicodin, I was sent out with nothing more than instructions to gargle salt water.
Doctors seem to know all and patients know nothing. Instructing your doctor that his chosen method of treatment is not the best for you never goes over well. At one time, I had an older doctor who was willing to listen to my suggestions, and I always left with a treatment plan that worked. He has since passed away, and my new doctor, while he means well, doesn't work the same way. Poor Blue Cross had to pay for me to go back four or five times when I was having recurring migraines, which went away just fine with a low dose of oxycodone because he refused to prescribe it. I now use Zomig for them, and tried various other tryptamine drugs with not-too-fun side effects before finally getting this. It still isn't as effective as an opioid, but what can I do?
Jesus. My ID has it printed right on it. If you forgot your ID, you had to tell them your social to get lunch.
And, extrans are STILL broken. Goddamnit, you lazy fuckin' sysops, get off your asses and fix this years-old bug.
THANK YOU!
Anyone who uses P2P software, including BitTorrent almost always has to have an argument with someone based on this subject.
Since before even Napster, I was downloading music. My CD collection has since grown into the low hundreds. Before this "revolution"? None. At all. I hate having to pay $12+ for a CD, and I CERTAINLY wasn't going to do it without hearing the music first. When I download TV torrents, I usually even <i>watch the commercials</i> if they're there. Why? Believe it or not, I don't find them that annoying. So what do they have to lose? They're getting viewers and still showing ads.
Every time I see an article like this, it brings a sparkle to my eye, because A. it means not everyone in the world is a cheap bastard, and B. it strengthens my argument.
If people as a whole were legally allowed to share copyrighted works without fear of legal action, people would be not only much much happier but the quality of our arts will improve - if the RIAA and the MPAA weren't shoving whatever they can down our throats, the good artists could come to light. But hey, That's Capitalism!(TM)
*looks at his 4-plus year old, abused mouse*...
Yup, Microsoft IntelliMouse.
Could you get that fat trolling cock out of your mouth now or do you wanna wait?
WHat's it gonna do with the power, light up your nose?
Well, pretty much everyone does. Even if they don't, usually states issue identification cards through the same system, anyway. Here in Pennsylvania, a PA ID Card is exactly the same as a PA Driver's License, except that the back says IDENTIFICATION ONLY - NOT TO BE USED AS A DRIVER'S LICENSE, and the license class field on the front is omitted. You are even issued a driver's license number, but the card and record indicate that you are licensed for no classes.
Clean, and safer (by rate of accidents) than coal or oil, correctly.
However, when an oil refinery explodes, hundreds may be killed, a huge fire producing toxins ensues, and eventually burns out. The toxins are swept away by natural processes.
When a nuclear reactor goes up, the carnage is just about the same, with one small difference: Everything left is radioactive. Radiation is spread in the atomsphere, and that one, isolated incident kills more than a refinery going kaboom ever could.
That's not the problem. I'd use it either way, patent encumbered or not. But remember the story from last week, stating that Wine now has legal backup to attract larger, enterprise developers who would have otherwise feared legal action? Those same developers will be shied away if there is a chance of legal action for working with the patent-encumbered code.
THen the software cannot be used in any country where the patent is valid.
You made it, it's yours. Upon your death, your right to your works CEASES. YOU'RE FUCKING DEAD. Maybe it shouldn't even last that long, but from creation to death of creator seems fair.
People sharing music P2P for FREE should be legal. Nobody's making money off of your works, INCLUDING YOU. Probably because YOU SUCK THE BIG ONE at marketing.
I should have every right to do whatever I want with any signal that enters my home. IE, if Hughes insists on radiating my brain with their digital television signal, then I insist on decoding it and using it as I see fit. What if tomorrow, I fall on a pile of radioactive waste, and can suddenly decode the signal in my head? Are you gonna chop it off and use it as evidence against me in a DMCA Act lawsuit? IF YOU DON'T WANT ME TO TIME SHIFT OR FORMAT SHIFT OR SHARE OR EVEN SELL YOUR CONTENT, DO NOT SEND IT OVER PUBLIC AIRWAVES. If I threw a giant wad of cash at you, I'm sure you'd be much obliged to take it. So don't throw your EMR at me, because I'm going to do the same.
Musicians? I will pay to see you in person. I will pay a very small fee to cover your costs for the media and recording of your music. If you want me to give you a glamorous lifestyle because you can play repetitive, shitty music, FUCK YOU. I will NOT be poor so you can drive a fucking Porsche. It is ART, a PASSION, not a FUCKING CAREER.
I'm 18, and a student. For a living, I clean floors. The only laws that protect my living protect yours too. When I get a contract, it isn't for life. It's until I FUCK UP. I don't need no fucking laws to protect my livelihood, so you pussies shouldn't either. Metallica, BURN IN HELL. Unless you would enjoy that, that is, if that is the case, may fluffy white bunnies rape you all day long.
Well, yes, but OBD-II (On Board Diagnostics, Version II) is federally mandated, and the Society of Automotive Engineers has a set of standard codes for most every fault an ECM would detect. They also, however, made it possible for manufacturers to have proprietary codes, starting with 1. For example, if the oxygen sensor on my engine's #1 cylinder bank is indicating that the engine is running lean more than is allowed, and the ECU is correcting by running it intentionally rich, the SAE code would be P0130. However, my car, a Ford, gives the code P1311. Same exact meaning, but it's a Ford specific code. Fortunately for me, a quick search on the 'net found out what the code meant, but it wasn't in my book.
Fortunately, the Feds have said they cannot hide the definitions of codes like these as not only is it federally mandated that the diagnostics system be there, there is already a standard set of codes and definitions that works just fine.
When I first read the sentence, "Have you seen what MS does to people?", I thought, "JESUS H. CHRIST, how in the HELL does Microsoft get brought into an ELEVATOR DISCUSSION?!"
It wasn't until I thought about it for a second that I realized you meant Multiple Sclerosis. Oops.
Wow, I didn't know Linus was now paying people to code!
Fully Employed. As in, ELSEWHERE. Duh.