Indeed. And it's kinda funny how everyone is talking about the government "playing with fire" when they do this. Our own goverment gets away with this on a daily basis. Here's an example why, and try interchanging "US" and "Chinese":
US Gov: We're banning chocolate cookies!
US People: You can't do that, we like our cookies!
US People: Let's fight back!
US People: Yeah! Let's get organized! *a little later*
US Gov: Here, try these oatmeal cookies!
US People: Hey, these oatmeal cookies are pretty good!
US People: Yeah! Hey, weren't we supposed to be protesting something?
US People: I think so, but I don't remember.
The US and Chinese government will get away with it because people forget too easily, get distracted too easily. Be enraged all you want, but nothing will happen as long as people don't concentrate on something for an extended amount of time. And since they won't, the country is already owned by corporations.
This is all well and good, but it won't be viewed as something useful by most musicians unless they can see that they can recieve support with this in place.
What needs to be done is that we, the people who are aware of the issue, need to make a special point of downloading, listening, giving feedback, and pass on the music that people release with this license. If this is done, it will force a change in the business. However, if most of these folks are ignored, the musicians will be forced to go back to the record companies.
25 companies being sued, huh? Did Klebold or Harris even have that many games?
Quite possibly! In fact, for helping them get up to that amount, I think we should sue the CD-Burner companies! And then the CDR companies! I mean, what do you think the chances are that most of those games were originals?
Seriously, I am actually kinda curious about the number of purchased games vs. copied. I think it'd be kinda funny to limit who can buy these games, but the games that are blamed in these cases always turn out to be copies, so the ban never applied..;-)
IMHO, their current stuff is a little too expensive right now for widespread use. For that price, you'd expect another "0" or something added onto the expected hours. They're more of novelty items right now. Lower the price or up the time, and I think you'd have a winner.
Granted, you could get one for emergency use or something, but you'd really be better off getting an extra normal battery and keeping it charged. You could actively use it, and you wouldn't be spending much money past the initial purchase.
Yeah, but think about their marketing approach: Windows XP, the new OS standard! It can help you browse the internet, chat with your friends, make a sandwich, and even comes with the ability to make MP3s. And better yet, you can create files that sound better than MP3s!
Man, that felt evil, I need to go wash my hands now.
You can encode MP3s with XP, you just can't encode them at more than 56kbps. They're giving you all the tools, just making one suck and one shine to persuade you to switch.
Thanks for responding with a valid response. I didn't get that meaning when I read the article. Kinda figures, though it makes me wonder why everyone's so upset by it. I haven't switched encoders since the DOS version of L3. I would think that most people who do MP3 encoding already have all the tools they'll need anyways. But maybe I've been out of it too long..
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Does anyone have any ideas on what it could be actually doing?
I don't go for the idea that they just aren't going to give you the tools to do so. I'm thinking that if this statement is literally true, they might try to look for the algorithm. Anyone know if this would even be possible?
A more M$ solution would be to just include an encoder with the OS and make it really suck.
Now, now, calm down a bit. Take your medicine. There, feel better?
Now then, I wouldn't worry too much about these guys. I used to be a pirate back in college, myself. I was even proud of my collection. However, several years later, I have gotten rid of my MP3 collection, ripped only the ones that I own, and bought any that I wanted, but didn't own yet (most of these CDs were really cheap by now).
So relax, the world isn't coming to an end, and most people will grow out of it and eventually pay their dues.
However, please note several things: I haven't bought a music CD in several years; I replaced the stuff I wanted, and forgot about the rest. They ARE too expensive, thus, I don't buy any more, and I don't listen to any new ones.
Additionally, I will be quite unhappy if I buy a CD that I cannot rip for myself. This is, as many people have noted, quite legal, as I have paid my dues to the artist (not much, unfortunately) and the record company (too much).
I am just demonstrating that, yes, there are people out there who do really want to only rip their own CDs for their own purposes. I suppose all I can do now is wait for the next format.
That would indeed be interesting, but I'm wondering about the interference problem. Would running power through the same exact same cable cause interference? I know it causes problems in some of our other methods of transmitting it, what about with this type?
If we don't have to worry about it, that would indeed be very cool, to just hook a computer up to a wall socket with one plug, and have everything available.. Now I just need to work on getting wireless power..:-)
But he DID look!! It's just that the search engine came up blank when he typed in the string: "Don't use Access! It's unstable!"
Man, you guys have got to learn to account for the difference in capitalization.. Remember, the articles are written by someone highly trained familiar with all of Microsoft's tools. Remember, usage of the shift key is not in the typical training course.. Gotta search for "dont use access its unstable":-)
Oh, thank you for mentioning AOW. At least someone else knows it. This has been one of my favorites for a while, it seems to be the closest to Master of Magic that has come out for a long time. Beautiful game. This game had a lot of pluses: music, balance, story, and gameplay.
One important point I wanted to bring up though, even though both sides could more simultaniously, things still happened in turn based. In fact, the simultanious turn option was really not that innovative, as it still moved things around in a turn based fashion.
In any case, I'm looking forward to AOW2, and I hope people can try these out, instead of lamenting that Turn Based games are dead.
Not surprising at all. So many companies try to get out of paying bills for as long as possible. We face the same situation at my own work. We provide a service for people, and we are now going to cut off anyone who doesn't pay within a reasonable amount of time.
Why service a deadbeat company? If it's not profitable for us, we have no reason to stay in that relationship, even though it will mean depriving some innocent customers of their's from having their service available.
There are DUMB People Out THERE Who NEED to MowLawns in order to eat!!
Yes, indeed there are! They're more commonly known as "cattle.";-)
But seriously, I used to mow lawns, an I made pretty good money doing it. One of the more popular services (after just weekly mowings), was to mow the lawn, check the house, take care of the mail, etc.
And while machines may eventually replace all of these services, I doubt that it will not be done by a human. There's a separate value in a human's work. There are risks too, but in this kind of work, it's fairly minimal. I'd venture to say that mining is a bit more dangerous than mowing.
Why not put another spammer's address on the information. The worst effect it could have would be that they ignore it and throw it away. The best effect would be to start a spam flood to another spammer (I know I'm dreaming here).:-)
I don't know if they meant for this, but in a way, the length of the movie, along with the atmosphere being held tense for that length of time, helped make the viewer share more of the feeling of exaustion with the characters. I thought it was very fitting, with or without that intention.
The thing that most disturbed me was the microphone always dropping into view every few seconds..;-)
Exactly where did anyone say anything about 1 spam a week? Not only do you get usually at least one spam a day, they share your address with anyone who wants it. And they send you one every day or so, as well as passing it on themselves.
You typically don't see any large increase immediately, but you'll definately see an increase over more time, on an exponential curve.
Plus, ever run a mail server on your home system? That's disk space being taken up, my friend. No cost to the spammer (in fact, once you track them down, you find that most of them haven't paid for their services for some time), and exponential cost to you (see above).
Why do you assume (you do know what that does, don't you?;-) that African-Americans are the only people that are getting the bad educations? Has society programmed your minds to believing that everything bad that happens only happens to the African-American community?
I went to a school on the outskirts of Atlanta. I had very few good teachers (the one good one was a Puerto Rican teacher for spanish), and the computer courses were an absolute joke! The only "computer" course I had was for typewriting!
The real fact isn't that the government is failing the African-American community, but that they're failing children of every race.
If you sue them, I want in for damages to my community too!
I'd venture to say that you're too paranoid, at least for the time being!;-)
America is still a great company, with an unequaled amount of freedom. I still wouldn't trade it for anything.
One of the reasons we hear a lot about stuff that can take away our freedoms, yet we're still free, is that people are always trying for more power for themselves. However, due to the way that our government is set up, it A) takes forever to get a law passed, and B) that still doesn't make it legal, since it has to pass the inspection of the courts. Plus, even if it passes inspection once, it has to continually pass inspection by pretty much everyone. Things just take time in our government. Be patient.
Personally, the fact that we are able to have this discussion says a lot to me.
Oh, I know.. Back in High School (public), I took the only computer course we had, "Keyboarding". I got just short of a perfect score in that class.. There was only one thing that kept me from getting it..
One question on a 10 question test (one of 2, I think) screwed me up.
"What do you use to write on a floppy disk?"
I answered, "floppy disk drive"
The answer was supposed to be "felt tip pen".
Man, those teachers stunk. They did have those fun IR keyboards in the class though..
I don't suppose the classes have gotten better, have they?
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Maybe if a few big companies (Like a Baby Bell?) were providing access, people'd be more inclined towards it.
Indeed.. I've got mine through BellSouth, and I haven't had a problem through the entire experience.
Oh, and I also routinely get speeds of 120KB/s - 140KB/s downstream. Upstream is still faster than a modem user as well.
Indeed. And it's kinda funny how everyone is talking about the government "playing with fire" when they do this. Our own goverment gets away with this on a daily basis. Here's an example why, and try interchanging "US" and "Chinese":
US Gov: We're banning chocolate cookies!
US People: You can't do that, we like our cookies!
US People: Let's fight back!
US People: Yeah! Let's get organized!
*a little later*
US Gov: Here, try these oatmeal cookies!
US People: Hey, these oatmeal cookies are pretty good!
US People: Yeah! Hey, weren't we supposed to be protesting something?
US People: I think so, but I don't remember.
The US and Chinese government will get away with it because people forget too easily, get distracted too easily. Be enraged all you want, but nothing will happen as long as people don't concentrate on something for an extended amount of time. And since they won't, the country is already owned by corporations.
This is all well and good, but it won't be viewed as something useful by most musicians unless they can see that they can recieve support with this in place.
What needs to be done is that we, the people who are aware of the issue, need to make a special point of downloading, listening, giving feedback, and pass on the music that people release with this license. If this is done, it will force a change in the business. However, if most of these folks are ignored, the musicians will be forced to go back to the record companies.
25 companies being sued, huh? Did Klebold or Harris even have that many games?
;-)
Quite possibly! In fact, for helping them get up to that amount, I think we should sue the CD-Burner companies! And then the CDR companies! I mean, what do you think the chances are that most of those games were originals?
Seriously, I am actually kinda curious about the number of purchased games vs. copied. I think it'd be kinda funny to limit who can buy these games, but the games that are blamed in these cases always turn out to be copies, so the ban never applied..
IMHO, their current stuff is a little too expensive right now for widespread use. For that price, you'd expect another "0" or something added onto the expected hours. They're more of novelty items right now. Lower the price or up the time, and I think you'd have a winner.
Granted, you could get one for emergency use or something, but you'd really be better off getting an extra normal battery and keeping it charged. You could actively use it, and you wouldn't be spending much money past the initial purchase.
Yeah, but think about their marketing approach:
Windows XP, the new OS standard! It can help you browse the internet, chat with your friends, make a sandwich, and even comes with the ability to make MP3s. And better yet, you can create files that sound better than MP3s!
Man, that felt evil, I need to go wash my hands now.
You can encode MP3s with XP, you just can't encode them at more than 56kbps. They're giving you all the tools, just making one suck and one shine to persuade you to switch.
Thanks for responding with a valid response. I didn't get that meaning when I read the article. Kinda figures, though it makes me wonder why everyone's so upset by it. I haven't switched encoders since the DOS version of L3. I would think that most people who do MP3 encoding already have all the tools they'll need anyways. But maybe I've been out of it too long..
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Wohoo! Same here!
I did, you moron. I didn't think that it was very informative, actually.
Does anyone have any ideas on what it could be actually doing?
I don't go for the idea that they just aren't going to give you the tools to do so. I'm thinking that if this statement is literally true, they might try to look for the algorithm. Anyone know if this would even be possible?
A more M$ solution would be to just include an encoder with the OS and make it really suck.
Now, now, calm down a bit. Take your medicine. There, feel better?
Now then, I wouldn't worry too much about these guys. I used to be a pirate back in college, myself. I was even proud of my collection. However, several years later, I have gotten rid of my MP3 collection, ripped only the ones that I own, and bought any that I wanted, but didn't own yet (most of these CDs were really cheap by now).
So relax, the world isn't coming to an end, and most people will grow out of it and eventually pay their dues.
However, please note several things: I haven't bought a music CD in several years; I replaced the stuff I wanted, and forgot about the rest. They ARE too expensive, thus, I don't buy any more, and I don't listen to any new ones.
Additionally, I will be quite unhappy if I buy a CD that I cannot rip for myself. This is, as many people have noted, quite legal, as I have paid my dues to the artist (not much, unfortunately) and the record company (too much).
I am just demonstrating that, yes, there are people out there who do really want to only rip their own CDs for their own purposes. I suppose all I can do now is wait for the next format.
That would indeed be interesting, but I'm wondering about the interference problem. Would running power through the same exact same cable cause interference? I know it causes problems in some of our other methods of transmitting it, what about with this type?
:-)
If we don't have to worry about it, that would indeed be very cool, to just hook a computer up to a wall socket with one plug, and have everything available.. Now I just need to work on getting wireless power..
But he DID look!! It's just that the search engine came up blank when he typed in the string: "Don't use Access! It's unstable!"
:-)
Man, you guys have got to learn to account for the difference in capitalization.. Remember, the articles are written by someone highly trained familiar with all of Microsoft's tools. Remember, usage of the shift key is not in the typical training course.. Gotta search for "dont use access its unstable"
Oh, thank you for mentioning AOW. At least someone else knows it. This has been one of my favorites for a while, it seems to be the closest to Master of Magic that has come out for a long time. Beautiful game. This game had a lot of pluses: music, balance, story, and gameplay.
One important point I wanted to bring up though, even though both sides could more simultaniously, things still happened in turn based. In fact, the simultanious turn option was really not that innovative, as it still moved things around in a turn based fashion.
In any case, I'm looking forward to AOW2, and I hope people can try these out, instead of lamenting that Turn Based games are dead.
Not surprising at all. So many companies try to get out of paying bills for as long as possible. We face the same situation at my own work. We provide a service for people, and we are now going to cut off anyone who doesn't pay within a reasonable amount of time.
Why service a deadbeat company? If it's not profitable for us, we have no reason to stay in that relationship, even though it will mean depriving some innocent customers of their's from having their service available.
There are DUMB People Out THERE Who NEED to MowLawns in order to eat!!
;-)
Yes, indeed there are! They're more commonly known as "cattle."
But seriously, I used to mow lawns, an I made pretty good money doing it. One of the more popular services (after just weekly mowings), was to mow the lawn, check the house, take care of the mail, etc.
And while machines may eventually replace all of these services, I doubt that it will not be done by a human. There's a separate value in a human's work. There are risks too, but in this kind of work, it's fairly minimal. I'd venture to say that mining is a bit more dangerous than mowing.
Why not put another spammer's address on the information. The worst effect it could have would be that they ignore it and throw it away. The best effect would be to start a spam flood to another spammer (I know I'm dreaming here). :-)
Was the movie really too long?
;-)
I don't know if they meant for this, but in a way, the length of the movie, along with the atmosphere being held tense for that length of time, helped make the viewer share more of the feeling of exaustion with the characters. I thought it was very fitting, with or without that intention.
The thing that most disturbed me was the microphone always dropping into view every few seconds..
Exactly where did anyone say anything about 1 spam a week? Not only do you get usually at least one spam a day, they share your address with anyone who wants it. And they send you one every day or so, as well as passing it on themselves.
You typically don't see any large increase immediately, but you'll definately see an increase over more time, on an exponential curve.
Plus, ever run a mail server on your home system? That's disk space being taken up, my friend. No cost to the spammer (in fact, once you track them down, you find that most of them haven't paid for their services for some time), and exponential cost to you (see above).
I agree with you there, that MSFT might actually be in the right. (Who would have thought I'd be defending them!)
And indeed the problem may be elsewhere, but I would venture to say it's not anything having to do with racism.
Why do you assume (you do know what that does, don't you? ;-) that African-Americans are the only people that are getting the bad educations? Has society programmed your minds to believing that everything bad that happens only happens to the African-American community?
I went to a school on the outskirts of Atlanta. I had very few good teachers (the one good one was a Puerto Rican teacher for spanish), and the computer courses were an absolute joke! The only "computer" course I had was for typewriting!
The real fact isn't that the government is failing the African-American community, but that they're failing children of every race.
If you sue them, I want in for damages to my community too!
Whoops! Dangit. Freudian slip, as it were.. Kinda dissapointing that all three replies were about my typo, and not intelligent responses.
I'd venture to say that you're too paranoid, at least for the time being! ;-)
America is still a great company, with an unequaled amount of freedom. I still wouldn't trade it for anything.
One of the reasons we hear a lot about stuff that can take away our freedoms, yet we're still free, is that people are always trying for more power for themselves. However, due to the way that our government is set up, it A) takes forever to get a law passed, and B) that still doesn't make it legal, since it has to pass the inspection of the courts. Plus, even if it passes inspection once, it has to continually pass inspection by pretty much everyone. Things just take time in our government. Be patient.
Personally, the fact that we are able to have this discussion says a lot to me.
Oh, I know.. Back in High School (public), I took the only computer course we had, "Keyboarding". I got just short of a perfect score in that class.. There was only one thing that kept me from getting it.. One question on a 10 question test (one of 2, I think) screwed me up. "What do you use to write on a floppy disk?" I answered, "floppy disk drive" The answer was supposed to be "felt tip pen". Man, those teachers stunk. They did have those fun IR keyboards in the class though.. I don't suppose the classes have gotten better, have they?
Are you saying it's not supposed to be this way?
;-)
Who knew?
Well, there goes my insignificant karma.. *sigh*