I wasn't saying that everyone should buy one. It's not the right phone for everyone. I was simply stating that saying that geeks shouldn't care about it is absurd.
They want Apple to license the tech for their ACC files so other players besides iPods can play the music.
Then they should just release their music DRM free.
No, Universal wants two things: Higher prices for their DRM'd music, and a deal similar to the one they have with Microsoft, where they get money for each Zune sold.
This shows how Apple is really good at playing the game
No, it shows that the people who figured it cost 220 bucks have no clue. Apple's profit margins have always been around 20-30%. I would be extremely surprised if they suddenly sold a 220 bucks device for 600 bucks.
People always guesstimate iPod margins way too high, and invariably, they turn out to be wrong during the next Apple analyst call.
The question is not what it does, it's how it does it. Are you excited about Jeff Han's multitouch displays? Then why are you not excited about having one in your pocket?
I'm hoping somebody figures out how to access the internal memory on the iPhone so the installed version of OS X can be hacked. If the AppleTV is any indication, that would make the iPhone greatly hackable...
My original, second-gen iPod is still being used. The battery doesn't last 10 hours anymore, but enough to be usable. I have no idea what people's issue with iPods is. There's no "distinct lack of longevity" at all.
You're doing something wrong. I've owned a P800, a Treo 650 and I currently own a P990i. I use my cell phone to organize my whole life. I even use it to take snapshots, to listen to music and podcasts, and to play games. A battery charge usually lasts a day, two days if I keep usage down. I've never had to replace a battery, despite using some phones for two years.
Unlike Ni-Cd batteries, lithium-ion batteries should be charged early and often. However, if they are not used for a longer time, they should be brought to a charge level of around 40%. Lithium-ion batteries should never be "deep-cycled" like Ni-Cd batteries.
Only keep them at 40% if you're not going to use them for a longer time.
I charge my P990i every night. It survives for about two days if I don't use it often and if it doesn't decide to suddenly crash or have some error that uses the whole damn battery within 30 minutes.
Realistically, cell phones are very short-lived gadgets anyway. Most people are going to get new cell phones as soon as their contract runs out, which, for the iPhone, is in two years. In a way, it's very saddening that such an amazing little piece of technology has such a short life expectancy...
It would take a catastrophic failure rate of a bit over 30% for an 11-brick streak to be within expectation for 10 million samples.
Yeah, 20-30% sounds about right.
Of course this all fuzzy math, and even if it's improbable for it to happen with a 5% defect rate, it's still possible.
If it was a single case, absolutely. But there are many other people who had to replace their Xboxes two to six times... Even if you consider that the Internet tends to aggregate these numbers, it's very obvious that there's something fishy going on.
My guess is that some of it was user-error(despite his claims of deliberately avoiding them), and some of it is MS having a higher than normal failure rate. It's the simplest explanation for such a fantastically unlikely event.
This is probably true. I wonder, though, why the Xbox would be more susceptible to user error than other consoles:-)
I'd like to add to this that Jobs has said that phones would eat into the iPod's sales either way, and he'd rather it's Apple's own phone that does it.
piggybacking on somebody's home Wi-Fi network. Theft of service, it's the Apple way!
When I moved into my new flat, I used an open Wi-Fi network I found. When I got my own a few days later, I left it open so others in a similar situation could use it. I don't mind you using my Wi-Fi network as long as you don't destroy my bandwith.
What part of "revolutionary user interface" did you not understand? He isn't even talking about the "touchscreen capabilitites" or "playing music" or "viewing the web." He's talking about how the touchscreen is used, how your play music, and how you view the web.
Yeah, my P990i does have a touchscreen, does view the web, does play music. That doesn't mean the iPhone's UI isn't revolutionary.
Actually, this seems to be the case quite often. Going from something like the Xerox Star to the Apple Lisa and the Mac is quite a feat (and Apple actually hired lots of people from Xerox, instead of just lifting their ideas). The first few versions of Windows, on the other hand, were just Macs with half the features cut out.
No, the moral of the story is ones own experiences do not paint the full picture any more than one guy replacing his 360 11 times.
Actually, a single dead console doesn't mean anything. One person having 11 dead consoles, however, does. If you have a hardware defect rate of 5% within a year, one in 20 people will have to replace their console within one year. That's nothing out of the ordinary. However, the probability of killing 11 consoles, given the same hardware defect rate, is about 0.05^11 (not quite, since you don't start out with all 11 consoles, so consoles you get later have less time to break within the same first year). In other words, only one in about 204,800,104,857,653 persons will have to replace 11 consoles. Microsoft has, however, only sold about 10'000'000 consoles
What does this tell us? Either this guy is doing something wrong, or Microsoft's hardware defect rate must be way above 5% per year.
You're right. I wrote the sentence, and while writing it, it occured to me that I wasn't actually sure what Microsoft allows, so I added the sentence saying that I wasn't sure. Obviously I should have gone back and changed the sentence.
Layouting isn't a verb? I'm sorry, English isn't my first language.
If that's what you mean, wth, you're doing page layout on a 3" screen? For what amounts to an email with image attachments?
You've got to be kidding me.
I'm assuming you've never actually sent an MMS. MMS messages can have several pages. Each page can advance to the next after a given time. They can contain text, pictures and sound, and the order of these elements can be changed.
Stop trying to make it seem like MMS is a big deal. Receiving is handled just like it is now, receiving an email to your phone. Or did you not know that's how it works?
I'm not exactly sure why you feel the need to insult me. Look, MMS is a big deal. Maybe not in America, but I'm not living in America. I'm living in Europe. And over here, there are no phones without MMS. Everybody writes and receives MMS.
I'm not trying to make it seem like a big deal. It is a god damn big deal.
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A futuristic UI.
I wasn't saying that everyone should buy one. It's not the right phone for everyone. I was simply stating that saying that geeks shouldn't care about it is absurd.
Then they should just release their music DRM free.
No, Universal wants two things: Higher prices for their DRM'd music, and a deal similar to the one they have with Microsoft, where they get money for each Zune sold.
I hope Apple gives them hell.
No, it shows that the people who figured it cost 220 bucks have no clue. Apple's profit margins have always been around 20-30%. I would be extremely surprised if they suddenly sold a 220 bucks device for 600 bucks.
People always guesstimate iPod margins way too high, and invariably, they turn out to be wrong during the next Apple analyst call.
The question is not what it does, it's how it does it. Are you excited about Jeff Han's multitouch displays? Then why are you not excited about having one in your pocket?
Thanks. That sounds more like an error than an actual difference in software... Interesting.
And I'm guessing iTunes checks for new software once a week?
I'm hoping somebody figures out how to access the internal memory on the iPhone so the installed version of OS X can be hacked. If the AppleTV is any indication, that would make the iPhone greatly hackable...
What were the software differences you noted between the phones, and did you get a software update for the iPhone via iTunes?
My original, second-gen iPod is still being used. The battery doesn't last 10 hours anymore, but enough to be usable. I have no idea what people's issue with iPods is. There's no "distinct lack of longevity" at all.
You're doing something wrong. I've owned a P800, a Treo 650 and I currently own a P990i. I use my cell phone to organize my whole life. I even use it to take snapshots, to listen to music and podcasts, and to play games. A battery charge usually lasts a day, two days if I keep usage down. I've never had to replace a battery, despite using some phones for two years.
You're wrong
Only keep them at 40% if you're not going to use them for a longer time.
I charge my P990i every night. It survives for about two days if I don't use it often and if it doesn't decide to suddenly crash or have some error that uses the whole damn battery within 30 minutes.
Realistically, cell phones are very short-lived gadgets anyway. Most people are going to get new cell phones as soon as their contract runs out, which, for the iPhone, is in two years. In a way, it's very saddening that such an amazing little piece of technology has such a short life expectancy...
Yeah, 20-30% sounds about right.
Of course this all fuzzy math, and even if it's improbable for it to happen with a 5% defect rate, it's still possible.If it was a single case, absolutely. But there are many other people who had to replace their Xboxes two to six times... Even if you consider that the Internet tends to aggregate these numbers, it's very obvious that there's something fishy going on.
My guess is that some of it was user-error(despite his claims of deliberately avoiding them), and some of it is MS having a higher than normal failure rate. It's the simplest explanation for such a fantastically unlikely event.This is probably true. I wonder, though, why the Xbox would be more susceptible to user error than other consoles :-)
Maybe they're ramping up bandwith so they can take on all the iPhones that will soon access the web.
Just like the Mac, it only auto-connects to hotspots you've used in the past.
Whoosh.
I'd like to add to this that Jobs has said that phones would eat into the iPod's sales either way, and he'd rather it's Apple's own phone that does it.
When I moved into my new flat, I used an open Wi-Fi network I found. When I got my own a few days later, I left it open so others in a similar situation could use it. I don't mind you using my Wi-Fi network as long as you don't destroy my bandwith.
What part of "revolutionary user interface" did you not understand? He isn't even talking about the "touchscreen capabilitites" or "playing music" or "viewing the web." He's talking about how the touchscreen is used, how your play music, and how you view the web.
Yeah, my P990i does have a touchscreen, does view the web, does play music. That doesn't mean the iPhone's UI isn't revolutionary.
Yeah, because you could buy a Xerox Star in 1984. No, wait, you couldn't, Apple actually did bring you those ideas.
Actually, this seems to be the case quite often. Going from something like the Xerox Star to the Apple Lisa and the Mac is quite a feat (and Apple actually hired lots of people from Xerox, instead of just lifting their ideas). The first few versions of Windows, on the other hand, were just Macs with half the features cut out.
Actually, a single dead console doesn't mean anything. One person having 11 dead consoles, however, does. If you have a hardware defect rate of 5% within a year, one in 20 people will have to replace their console within one year. That's nothing out of the ordinary. However, the probability of killing 11 consoles, given the same hardware defect rate, is about 0.05^11 (not quite, since you don't start out with all 11 consoles, so consoles you get later have less time to break within the same first year). In other words, only one in about 204,800,104,857,653 persons will have to replace 11 consoles. Microsoft has, however, only sold about 10'000'000 consoles
What does this tell us? Either this guy is doing something wrong, or Microsoft's hardware defect rate must be way above 5% per year.
Me too. It's not cold, as if it was off, but it's definitely not anywhere near hot, either.
You're right. I wrote the sentence, and while writing it, it occured to me that I wasn't actually sure what Microsoft allows, so I added the sentence saying that I wasn't sure. Obviously I should have gone back and changed the sentence.
Layouting isn't a verb? I'm sorry, English isn't my first language.
If that's what you mean, wth, you're doing page layout on a 3" screen? For what amounts to an email with image attachments?You've got to be kidding me.
I'm assuming you've never actually sent an MMS. MMS messages can have several pages. Each page can advance to the next after a given time. They can contain text, pictures and sound, and the order of these elements can be changed.
Stop trying to make it seem like MMS is a big deal. Receiving is handled just like it is now, receiving an email to your phone. Or did you not know that's how it works?I'm not exactly sure why you feel the need to insult me. Look, MMS is a big deal. Maybe not in America, but I'm not living in America. I'm living in Europe. And over here, there are no phones without MMS. Everybody writes and receives MMS.
I'm not trying to make it seem like a big deal. It is a god damn big deal.