I'm in a similar position. I've recently started a new AS/400 job and am trying to make my fellow IT workers aware of Open Source. I've used the IBM mid range since the mid 80s and Linux since '97.
It all depends on your target audience.
If it's AS/400 techies then show them X apps running on the AS/400 with remote Xterms. Show them a small beowulf running on one Iseries. Show them DB/2 on Linux seemlessly intergrated with DB/2 on the AS/400 etc etc _Show_ them tech.
If it's manager then comapre it to Windows, do not threaten the AS/400 that's a losing battle in their minds. Tell them about support, costs, stability availabilty of staff, lack of lock in etc. You could then go on to talk about consilidation on the AS/400. Most AS/400 people love the machine it's simple to program and operate. Linux cannot win that battle, programming on Linux is hard by comparison.
In short it's a hard sell. Most AS/400 shops have AS/400 and Windows skills. The closest you'll find to unix skills is the network admin who last touched AIX in '94.
It will take another 2 years before we'll know if AS/400 users are going to embrace Linux. I would love to run Linux in my company with a bunch of Xterms rather than PCs. It would save the company $$$
Timmy posts an intersting _tchnical_ article and all the pseudo lawyers and politicans jump in with the illegal angle. The second post for christ sake points out it's illegal.
How about some insight into the tech? I know this is becomming a real novelty for/.
Uh oh, I think I see the next geek hobby, sort of harking back to the origins of home brew CC.
Writing programs whose main purpose is to produce tuneful executables. It would be cool to see if stable programs were more tuneful than unstable ones. Hmm prehaps I can get my PhD, where do I submit my proposal:-)
The HBCC reference was about writing programs that caused EMI from the chip to produce music on an AM radio. I used to do this in my first job as a mainframe op, you could tell if the machine was looping etc by the tone on the radio.
Why is the question code documentation should address not how. In your example does the line of code explain why you are looking for a person called Harry? No it merely shows that you are looking.
Self explanatory, what a joke. Nobody can tell the output of this code. Big deal we've looked for Harry now was that because we like Harry or because Harry is catch all for bad guys?
I'm not sure who I'm more annoyed at, you for this lame brain amateur idea or the idiots who modded you up. grrr
Hi this is the help desk, from our logs it seems your PC is running low on coolant. Go get a cup of water and pour it through the filter in the back of your PC.
Look it's simple not everybody wants broadband yet. All it would take is for the media companies to offer VOD/MOD of the existing library for a reasonable amount. Then everybody would want broadband. Just give em a cheap set top box that instead of plugging into cable plugs into the net.
Personally I'm thinking the US is screwed and the new modern world is in the orient.
The BBC does a fair job, being British in America I've come to regard the BBC with something approaching reverance. where as living there I thought it biased, opinionated rubbish.
I would reccommend either the cable channel BBC America or the world service streamed across the net. The WS in particular is very cool. As a last resort get a short wave radio.
Of the Amercian news I tend towards CNN with the sound turned off. Local news is dire and national news about the same.
Mikey is just a kid, his actions and writing bear testiment to this./. employes him because he generates page hits. Personally I wouldn't mind if I never read a Michael Simms post again.
In my mind, Tim O'Reilly is rapidly becoming the voice of reason in open source. His writing displays a thoughtful touch for both the content and the presentation.
Except Gore won the election. Gore doesn't have a father who was president and also head of the CIA. Gore doesn't have a brother as govenor of Florida. Gore didn't have an Enron company jet for campaign trips.
'No, you are wrong.' Maybe a better phrase would be 'We seem to hold differing opinions'?
The original poster is quite correct that the reason to start a compnay is to beneift the founders. Reduced liability, access to greater funds etc. Share holders only benefit if the company chooses to let them. Microsoft does not pay dividends.
Having worked in merchant banks, stock exchanges and futures markets I can say without a moments hesitiation that the markets are rigged and no amount of legislation is going to stop that.
The nice thing at the moment is that the worst offenders of corporate theft are getting exposed. But until companies are forced to publish every financial transation on their books investors will never be sure they are with one of the very small minority of companies that has an ethical board.
'MANY others companies...' drivel, pure drivel. Companies are neither good or bad. Aside from good/bad being totally subjective there is the point that companies should not be judged rather the people who invest/manage/work there should be judged. For instance, the Red Cross has taken millions of dollars after Spet. 11th for the purpose of helping the families. They have released very little of these funds, where is the money going? Now is the Red Cross bad? Is the management bad?
A few years ago when F1 had every driver aid under the sun there was a rumour, urban legend?, circulating that Mclaren had a car that was lapping Silverstone with out a driver.
I was hoping we would see the first car to win a GP without a human. Looks like Schumacher has achieved that now.
If America wants to be a democracy then it has to allow itself to be ruled by the majority. Currently America has a ruling elite, rather like most of Europe. This serves only a small portion of the population.
Your comment about gas chambers is rather ironic given Americas history of slavery and forced labour. To say nothing of it's radiation testing.
Seriously, if the US would just get over this whole death thing it would be so much better.
It's not suprising the russians killed cosmanauts it's suprising they killed so few. America has also killed it's astronuaghts. This is OK with me. nobody is forced to strap themselves into a self propelled bomb.
So you want the public to vote on the sort of issues you deam them capable of! You hypocrite. This country should be ruled by the people if that means they make decisions you don't like then tough.
You cannot stop people voting merely because they vote differently to how you want. This is the current system and it stinks.
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I'm in a similar position. I've recently started a new AS/400 job and am trying to make my fellow IT workers aware of Open Source. I've used the IBM mid range since the mid 80s and Linux since '97.
It all depends on your target audience.
If it's AS/400 techies then show them X apps running on the AS/400 with remote Xterms. Show them a small beowulf running on one Iseries. Show them DB/2 on Linux seemlessly intergrated with DB/2 on the AS/400 etc etc _Show_ them tech.
If it's manager then comapre it to Windows, do not threaten the AS/400 that's a losing battle in their minds. Tell them about support, costs, stability availabilty of staff, lack of lock in etc. You could then go on to talk about consilidation on the AS/400. Most AS/400 people love the machine it's simple to program and operate. Linux cannot win that battle, programming on Linux is hard by comparison.
In short it's a hard sell. Most AS/400 shops have AS/400 and Windows skills. The closest you'll find to unix skills is the network admin who last touched AIX in '94.
It will take another 2 years before we'll know if AS/400 users are going to embrace Linux. I would love to run Linux in my company with a bunch of Xterms rather than PCs. It would save the company $$$
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Timmy posts an intersting _tchnical_ article and all the pseudo lawyers and politicans jump in with the illegal angle. The second post for christ sake points out it's illegal.
How about some insight into the tech? I know this is becomming a real novelty for
Uh oh, I think I see the next geek hobby, sort of harking back to the origins of home brew CC.
:-)
Writing programs whose main purpose is to produce tuneful executables. It would be cool to see if stable programs were more tuneful than unstable ones. Hmm prehaps I can get my PhD, where do I submit my proposal
The HBCC reference was about writing programs that caused EMI from the chip to produce music on an AM radio. I used to do this in my first job as a mainframe op, you could tell if the machine was looping etc by the tone on the radio.
Rubbish.
Why is the question code documentation should address not how. In your example does the line of code explain why you are looking for a person called Harry? No it merely shows that you are looking.
Self explanatory, what a joke. Nobody can tell the output of this code. Big deal we've looked for Harry now was that because we like Harry or because Harry is catch all for bad guys?
I'm not sure who I'm more annoyed at, you for this lame brain amateur idea or the idiots who modded you up. grrr
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Look it's simple not everybody wants broadband yet. All it would take is for the media companies to offer VOD/MOD of the existing library for a reasonable amount. Then everybody would want broadband. Just give em a cheap set top box that instead of plugging into cable plugs into the net.
Personally I'm thinking the US is screwed and the new modern world is in the orient.
No mention of how long it takes to ready the system. Or if the system can still function after the first hit.
So instead of $10 it now takes $20 to stop personnel carrier. The first round takes out the defenses and the second takes out the vehicle.
Prehaps it would be better if countries actually used it's soldiers for defense?
There is the old problem of referring to IP. Be more specific. A patent != license.
_OR_ you could unplug the light array and plug in your normal surgical laser, KISS.
Troll, Troll.
Which idiot of a moderator did that. Just because it raises 'your' hackles doesn't make it a troll. Mod articles up not down you brainless sheep.
The BBC does a fair job, being British in America I've come to regard the BBC with something approaching reverance. where as living there I thought it biased, opinionated rubbish.
I would reccommend either the cable channel BBC America or the world service streamed across the net. The WS in particular is very cool. As a last resort get a short wave radio.
Of the Amercian news I tend towards CNN with the sound turned off. Local news is dire and national news about the same.
But, she is my grammar not your grammar :-)
It's par for the course.
/. employes him because he generates page hits. Personally I wouldn't mind if I never read a Michael Simms post again.
Mikey is just a kid, his actions and writing bear testiment to this.
In my mind, Tim O'Reilly is rapidly becoming the voice of reason in open source. His writing displays a thoughtful touch for both the content and the presentation.
You mean like HAL's(IBM) Xseries?
Sun used to be the cheap workstation people, looks like they've returned to their roots.
Except Gore won the election. Gore doesn't have a father who was president and also head of the CIA. Gore doesn't have a brother as govenor of Florida. Gore didn't have an Enron company jet for campaign trips.
'No, you are wrong.' Maybe a better phrase would be 'We seem to hold differing opinions'?
The original poster is quite correct that the reason to start a compnay is to beneift the founders. Reduced liability, access to greater funds etc. Share holders only benefit if the company chooses to let them. Microsoft does not pay dividends.
Having worked in merchant banks, stock exchanges and futures markets I can say without a moments hesitiation that the markets are rigged and no amount of legislation is going to stop that.
The nice thing at the moment is that the worst offenders of corporate theft are getting exposed. But until companies are forced to publish every financial transation on their books investors will never be sure they are with one of the very small minority of companies that has an ethical board.
'MANY others companies...' drivel, pure drivel. Companies are neither good or bad. Aside from good/bad being totally subjective there is the point that companies should not be judged rather the people who invest/manage/work there should be judged. For instance, the Red Cross has taken millions of dollars after Spet. 11th for the purpose of helping the families. They have released very little of these funds, where is the money going? Now is the Red Cross bad? Is the management bad?
A few years ago when F1 had every driver aid under the sun there was a rumour, urban legend?, circulating that Mclaren had a car that was lapping Silverstone with out a driver.
I was hoping we would see the first car to win a GP without a human. Looks like Schumacher has achieved that now.
It's fiction, well most of it is.
It has a pretty un happy ending for most of us, unles you think you're one of the 144,00 souls who gets to go upstairs.
Speak for yourself there's been times in my life when if it wasn't for beer I'd have starved.
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It's common in every country, espically the UK & US
What is the alternative?
If America wants to be a democracy then it has to allow itself to be ruled by the majority. Currently America has a ruling elite, rather like most of Europe. This serves only a small portion of the population.
Your comment about gas chambers is rather ironic given Americas history of slavery and forced labour. To say nothing of it's radiation testing.
Then don't volunteer.
Seriously, if the US would just get over this whole death thing it would be so much better.
It's not suprising the russians killed cosmanauts it's suprising they killed so few. America has also killed it's astronuaghts. This is OK with me. nobody is forced to strap themselves into a self propelled bomb.
Ahh hah!
So you want the public to vote on the sort of issues you deam them capable of! You hypocrite. This country should be ruled by the people if that means they make decisions you don't like then tough.
You cannot stop people voting merely because they vote differently to how you want. This is the current system and it stinks.
People live within their economic means.
Define free? How much does geoverment cost.
What peacful action can the people take that will make a difference?
FUD is exactly how the goverment works. Why do you think Bush has such a high approval rating. The people have no voice.
Remove the electoral college, it was put there because the founders did not trust the tyranny of the majority! Think about that.
Marched on Washington, you mean a revolution or a peaceful protest?
Public apathy is the only peacful protest left!