Wouldn't customers stay with them because of their superior support and reliability, and don't forget the "Dude, you're getting a Dell!" guy.
Seriously, even if Ubuntu becomes the Evil Overlord Operating System in fifteen years time that Windows is today I'd still be happy because it proves that the EOOS can be taken down, or at least challenged.
I never liked the argument that one OS allows for easy development because all an OS is is a collection of semi-automatically run applications that help you do things on the computer.
Yes, but that alsa requires non-approved hardware. Or didn't you notice many of Vista's DRM-in-mind system requirements to keep "premium" content safe?
What they want is a cash cow. Something where if a user complies the user pays a lot of money to them. If the user does not comply and has no money the user goes ignored if the user does not comply (or with tight enough demands even if the user does) then they have an airtight case pre-made, just fill in the blank and confiscate any equipment said user might have as evidence.
It is a similar technique to labeling things as drug paraphernalia like pipes and bongs which are most often probably used for drugs(maybe, don't have figures) to lighters and glowsticks which have many legal legitimate uses and reasons why someone who didn't use drugs to carry around. It makes it much easier to prove a case. Such techniques are used all the time. "Authorities" find that certain factors mean that an individual is more likely to be doing something. After these factors are linked they are at first used to trace and find real evidence against the offender, but before long after these factors are "well known" the factors themselves are submitted as evidence, especially when real evidence is lacking.
This substituted evidence can be used to convict someone or more likely to push harder to gather more real evidence or gain a settlement.
I've always wondered about this. How do you count linux distros? I mean there are distros that are old and unmaintained, which I suppose you'd have to take off of the count. There are distros that are so small or targeted to a specific app, such as ones made for a specific bit of hardware.
There are also distros that have different flavors of themselves such as Ubuntu Xubuntu, EdUbuntu, Kubuntu, does that count as one or four distros(or more as I think there are even more *ubuntu distros). For that matter I can call Ubuntu a Debian distro.
For this count you really need to look at what linux means as a whole and what it means to specific markets. Also you have to look out how an influx of people and development for one distro spreads out to the rest of the linux world.
For Linux I think the big thing really is how new software is handled and installed. This often determines what software is generally available for the "joe average" user that might be migrating from desktop windows.
One major selling point I could see is software like Debian/Ubuntu's apt and synaptic software which provide a simple interface for installing thousands of different programs quickly and easily as well as managing what is installed and what isn't. I like many other users I've talked to will often go with a version or two back of a program just to have it connected to apt so it is automatically updated etc.
They can BS their way through security, and no one reads the EULAs but dang it consumers don't like to have to watch commercials. Let MS stare "enforcing" advertising, and we'll see what happens.
The corporate music industry does win because it has deeper pockets. In this way they kill off most all of the legal independent broadcasters. Yes the ones that don't care about laws and legality will keep right on going, but I know a couple of collage radio stations that I listen to which stream over the internet whose streams will die when this goes through.
This kills off the mid to low level broadcaster from streaming over the internet. And while yes there are ways around it that are undetectable, it shouldn't be illegal or have to be hidden in the first place!
These are companies, private organizations working solely for their own profit, who are buying the law. It stinks, and simply being apathetic woln't get you anywhere.
>> Wrong, wrong, wrong. Windows was actually responsible for taking the PC into mainstream use by providing an unified achitecture on which software could run. We already have millions of different hardware combinations/configurations to get our software to work with. It would be a complete developer's nightmare to also have hundreds of operating systems!! At least with Windows, you can count on APIs to partly solve the hardware problem. >>
Responsible for mainstream use?
Oh Please. While yes indeed there are benefits to having a single architecture to work on, there are also problems as well (For one not every PC, even those that are mainstream, are used for the same purposes, also malware attacks are easier on a unified infrastructure). Also there were other systems that went mainstream long before windows. Commodore, Apple II, Machnitosh and many others. MS did not somehow make things possible for the desktop PC, they just were the direction that the majority went. As for a developer's nightmare, please, it only seems that way because developers are used to a single architecture enviroment. This is changing. There are techniques that can be used to make code not only well written but easilly portable to different systems.
While I do agree that some standardization between architecture will occur and is good (for example the three letter suffixes attached to file types) standardization did not allow the PC to enter the mainstream, nor did MS somehow magically create some unified architecture. In fact, many of MS's actions to support proprietary formats, and closed source fight against standardization and make it more difficult for developers.
>>Wow, well good luck with your business. You've ruled it out without even evaluating it. Personally I think the tightened security alone is worth the upgrade. Now application developers will be forced to follow best practices, unless they want their app triggering UAC constantly.
He did evaluate it. Didn't you read about the part where he saw no benefit? It implies that he did look for benefits. Furthermore, if XP is doing the job on his current hardware why should he switch?
You claim security is the reason, but if XP is so unsecured what makes you think the new system will fare better? Yes they are hyping security, and it probably is more secure, but Microsoft is a company with a track record and it is impossible to look through an entire system to check to see if it secure independently. Thus the only real way to judge security is by reputation and from the real world experiences of others.
One major part of security in the real world is knowing your own plan and procedures. You are not allowed to know what is going on inside a Windows machine. You have to take MS at their word and that alone is a strike against security.
Well you see customer information bloat is a big problem these days. Fact is many customers know too much. Dangerous things too, like the fact that buying an unlicensed dvd or file sharing is not stealing, or that it is possable to change what ads the interwebs shows you when you fire up a browser, or to not see any ads at all, or even that all information isn't owned by large corporations or worst of all there are things called rights and fair use when it comes to copyright and hardware specs for the consumer.
I have a Palm T|X with a Bluetooth keyboard(Not quite a full keyboard but large enough to touch type(No number row)) which I use to take notes in class as well as look up things on the web. I've not used it for terminal access to other computers, but I'm sure that there is software available for such a purpose.
It works fairly well. Though, I'd love to have a way to quickly switch between active programs, perhaps not full multi-tasking, but dual tasking at least would be nice...actually it can play my mp3s and browse the web or take notes at the same time, and those four buttons on the front can be reconfigured...
Cheaper I'll give you, but harder working? Sure some are probably harder working than the average but please save the "Mexicans do the jobs that Americans don't want/are too lazy to do."
Take fruit pickers as a fairly standard example of a job illegal Mexican aliens do. They probably are not putting too many American, er US(I am trying to break myself of the habit of referring to United States citizens as "Americans" because there are many other Americans out there) fruit pickers out of work because most people who grow up in America will never even dream of wanting to pick fruit for a living. However there are other alternatives such as automated fruit picking machines which are passed up, and new invention is arguably one of the greater motivating forces in the historical American economy.
Furthermore, the idea of allowing a large group of people into this country with the stipulation that they as a whole work cheaper, harder and do the jobs US citizens don't want to do, is basically a way to form a new underclass. Mexican serfdom.
No desks? Folding stand. If the Screen and CPU are seperate units, you can have a small portable computer, with a box to keep dust and dirt out of it while not in use. Use said box as a stand while in use to keep it off the ground. Really if desks are the problem then these kids probably don't need computers, they need basic infrastructure.
I think the only reason everyone is hooked on laptop is because it sounds catchy. What is really needed is a small, very low cost, fairly durable (especially for dust and debris) portable computer.
Say each possibility is a specific arrangement of matter/energy/forces that make up the universe with every variance of that arrangement being another possibility then each one of those possibilities would indeed have an equal chance to occur assuming the universe has no pre(existence)-disposition towards a set of arrangements.
The problem is that for people whom this scare tactic is targeted at the OpenSource community at large is not an entirely reliable source, made up of technocrats and geeks who work regularly with arcane and understandable stuff. This vs Ballmer who runs a very large corporation who can talk on their level as a businessman who to many people is a reliable source to be taken at face value.
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400 lbs of what?
Why would Dell be threatened?
Wouldn't customers stay with them because of their superior support and reliability, and don't forget the "Dude, you're getting a Dell!" guy.
Seriously, even if Ubuntu becomes the Evil Overlord Operating System in fifteen years time that Windows is today I'd still be happy because it proves that the EOOS can be taken down, or at least challenged.
I never liked the argument that one OS allows for easy development because all an OS is is a collection of semi-automatically run applications that help you do things on the computer.
In the Revolution of 2078 after negotiations to end the siege of the Pentagon break down.
Yes, but that alsa requires non-approved hardware. Or didn't you notice many of Vista's DRM-in-mind system requirements to keep "premium" content safe?
What they want is a cash cow. Something where if a user complies the user pays a lot of money to them. If the user does not comply and has no money the user goes ignored if the user does not comply (or with tight enough demands even if the user does) then they have an airtight case pre-made, just fill in the blank and confiscate any equipment said user might have as evidence.
It is a similar technique to labeling things as drug paraphernalia like pipes and bongs which are most often probably used for drugs(maybe, don't have figures) to lighters and glowsticks which have many legal legitimate uses and reasons why someone who didn't use drugs to carry around. It makes it much easier to prove a case. Such techniques are used all the time. "Authorities" find that certain factors mean that an individual is more likely to be doing something. After these factors are linked they are at first used to trace and find real evidence against the offender, but before long after these factors are "well known" the factors themselves are submitted as evidence, especially when real evidence is lacking.
This substituted evidence can be used to convict someone or more likely to push harder to gather more real evidence or gain a settlement.
I've always wondered about this. How do you count linux distros? I mean there are distros that are old and unmaintained, which I suppose you'd have to take off of the count. There are distros that are so small or targeted to a specific app, such as ones made for a specific bit of hardware.
There are also distros that have different flavors of themselves such as Ubuntu Xubuntu, EdUbuntu, Kubuntu, does that count as one or four distros(or more as I think there are even more *ubuntu distros). For that matter I can call Ubuntu a Debian distro.
For this count you really need to look at what linux means as a whole and what it means to specific markets. Also you have to look out how an influx of people and development for one distro spreads out to the rest of the linux world.
For Linux I think the big thing really is how new software is handled and installed. This often determines what software is generally available for the "joe average" user that might be migrating from desktop windows.
One major selling point I could see is software like Debian/Ubuntu's apt and synaptic software which provide a simple interface for installing thousands of different programs quickly and easily as well as managing what is installed and what isn't. I like many other users I've talked to will often go with a version or two back of a program just to have it connected to apt so it is automatically updated etc.
Do not compare prostitutes to this or any nation's politicians!
They are not related as prostitution is a far more moral and upstanding profession.
As soon as possable!
They can BS their way through security, and no one reads the EULAs but dang it consumers don't like to have to watch commercials. Let MS stare "enforcing" advertising, and we'll see what happens.
Not true.
The corporate music industry does win because it has deeper pockets. In this way they kill off most all of the legal independent broadcasters. Yes the ones that don't care about laws and legality will keep right on going, but I know a couple of collage radio stations that I listen to which stream over the internet whose streams will die when this goes through.
This kills off the mid to low level broadcaster from streaming over the internet. And while yes there are ways around it that are undetectable, it shouldn't be illegal or have to be hidden in the first place!
These are companies, private organizations working solely for their own profit, who are buying the law. It stinks, and simply being apathetic woln't get you anywhere.
>>
Wrong, wrong, wrong. Windows was actually responsible for taking the PC into mainstream use by providing an unified achitecture on which software could run. We already have millions of different hardware combinations/configurations to get our software to work with. It would be a complete developer's nightmare to also have hundreds of operating systems!! At least with Windows, you can count on APIs to partly solve the hardware problem.
>>
Responsible for mainstream use?
Oh Please. While yes indeed there are benefits to having a single architecture to work on, there are also problems as well (For one not every PC, even those that are mainstream, are used for the same purposes, also malware attacks are easier on a unified infrastructure). Also there were other systems that went mainstream long before windows. Commodore, Apple II, Machnitosh and many others. MS did not somehow make things possible for the desktop PC, they just were the direction that the majority went. As for a developer's nightmare, please, it only seems that way because developers are used to a single architecture enviroment. This is changing. There are techniques that can be used to make code not only well written but easilly portable to different systems.
While I do agree that some standardization between architecture will occur and is good (for example the three letter suffixes attached to file types) standardization did not allow the PC to enter the mainstream, nor did MS somehow magically create some unified architecture. In fact, many of MS's actions to support proprietary formats, and closed source fight against standardization and make it more difficult for developers.
>>Wow, well good luck with your business. You've ruled it out without even evaluating it. Personally I think the tightened security alone is worth the upgrade. Now application developers will be forced to follow best practices, unless they want their app triggering UAC constantly.
He did evaluate it. Didn't you read about the part where he saw no benefit? It implies that he did look for benefits. Furthermore, if XP is doing the job on his current hardware why should he switch?
You claim security is the reason, but if XP is so unsecured what makes you think the new system will fare better? Yes they are hyping security, and it probably is more secure, but Microsoft is a company with a track record and it is impossible to look through an entire system to check to see if it secure independently. Thus the only real way to judge security is by reputation and from the real world experiences of others.
One major part of security in the real world is knowing your own plan and procedures. You are not allowed to know what is going on inside a Windows machine. You have to take MS at their word and that alone is a strike against security.
Question: Do you have money, or are you tied to someone with money?
If the answer is no then you know the reason why.
Hell the placement makes us drool as ANY functioning telescope data from the far side of the moon would probably give us new and tantalizing images.
Well you see customer information bloat is a big problem these days. Fact is many customers know too much. Dangerous things too, like the fact that buying an unlicensed dvd or file sharing is not stealing, or that it is possable to change what ads the interwebs shows you when you fire up a browser, or to not see any ads at all, or even that all information isn't owned by large corporations or worst of all there are things called rights and fair use when it comes to copyright and hardware specs for the consumer.
That depends on the peripherals.
The battle for space has already begun and we have already lost.
The planet is covered with solar power collection units. We generally call them plants.
I have a Palm T|X with a Bluetooth keyboard(Not quite a full keyboard but large enough to touch type(No number row)) which I use to take notes in class as well as look up things on the web. I've not used it for terminal access to other computers, but I'm sure that there is software available for such a purpose.
It works fairly well. Though, I'd love to have a way to quickly switch between active programs, perhaps not full multi-tasking, but dual tasking at least would be nice...actually it can play my mp3s and browse the web or take notes at the same time, and those four buttons on the front can be reconfigured...
Cheaper I'll give you, but harder working? Sure some are probably harder working than the average but please save the "Mexicans do the jobs that Americans don't want/are too lazy to do."
Take fruit pickers as a fairly standard example of a job illegal Mexican aliens do. They probably are not putting too many American, er US(I am trying to break myself of the habit of referring to United States citizens as "Americans" because there are many other Americans out there) fruit pickers out of work because most people who grow up in America will never even dream of wanting to pick fruit for a living. However there are other alternatives such as automated fruit picking machines which are passed up, and new invention is arguably one of the greater motivating forces in the historical American economy.
Furthermore, the idea of allowing a large group of people into this country with the stipulation that they as a whole work cheaper, harder and do the jobs US citizens don't want to do, is basically a way to form a new underclass. Mexican serfdom.
Its own of coarse.
More importantly will I be able to install the new OS on my Palm T|X?
No desks? Folding stand. If the Screen and CPU are seperate units, you can have a small portable computer, with a box to keep dust and dirt out of it while not in use. Use said box as a stand while in use to keep it off the ground. Really if desks are the problem then these kids probably don't need computers, they need basic infrastructure.
I think the only reason everyone is hooked on laptop is because it sounds catchy. What is really needed is a small, very low cost, fairly durable (especially for dust and debris) portable computer.
Historically Niagara Falls, Nuke plants, other hydro plants and coal.
Zelda 2?
Do you mean The Adventures of Link?
No I didn't fail math.
Say each possibility is a specific arrangement of matter/energy/forces that make up the universe with every variance of that arrangement being another possibility then each one of those possibilities would indeed have an equal chance to occur assuming the universe has no pre(existence)-disposition towards a set of arrangements.
The problem is that for people whom this scare tactic is targeted at the OpenSource community at large is not an entirely reliable source, made up of technocrats and geeks who work regularly with arcane and understandable stuff. This vs Ballmer who runs a very large corporation who can talk on their level as a businessman who to many people is a reliable source to be taken at face value.
Yeah but how long did it take them to develop ME?