I dont think its up to linus to write this. Its up to anyone who wants this to write this. Ie, you:). Thats one problem with all of us, we want so much, but a lot of us arnt prepared to put in the effort and do, or at least learn to do.
I admit, something that scans/proc for hardware would be awsome. But configuring the kernel is not a newbie feature. If someoen can configure the kernel compile it and run, then they should be able to get the PC information they need relitivly easy.
But yer, i'd rock. Not that im going to right the thing to do it, i dont want it that bad:).
I dont find this a bad thing. I mean, they are only going to bug those who think are doing some pretty bad shit!! As long as i stay in ASIO's "good books" - i shall not even worry about it.
Many people are still writing Demos. Now they write PPC demos. Once was released just recently. Hopfuly with a new platform, an upgraded OS demo making can make a mini compback?
Demo Competition anyone?
<Taken From Amiga.org> A.D.A. (Amiga Demoscene Archive) is proud to present Kheshkhash, cooperation demo between Encore and Scenic [5th place at Mekka Symposium 2002]. Many thanks to Fusko for contributing 29 (!) pictures from this graphically stunning PPC demo. </Taken From Amiga.org>
Well incase you didnt already know, Microsoft Windows as we know it today (XP) is actualy based on Unix. Although, you might as well say it wasnt, dare i say most of it has prolly be "worked" out of the system.
By when bill gates started out in this area, he first created his own version of Unix, which i can not remember the name of, but this eventualy became a foundation for NT, which of course is worked into XP now.:)
A simple search on google should reveal Micorsofts beginings on the Unix platform.
Well, Amiga Inc dont have control over the AmigaOne's. Thats Eyetechs concern, and they can sell these boards to whoever they want.
True the AmigaOne's have special dongal code, but this shouldnt effect the runnin of other OS's, infact, you can get the boards with out the dongal code!
Quote:"I'd been eyeing OS X since it was announced, and I have to say that Apple has done a spectacular job creating what I never thought was possible... a Unix that my girlfriend can use."
Not that i have a girl friend, but this guy is right on the money. This machine has so much geekness about it, its not funny. I actualy had a little peack at one the other night, what i saw was real nice:) and on a 400Mhz G3, it wasnt too slow, and it was an early version of OSX.
Since this PC is actualy old now (i didnt realise untill my dad bought a better computer[still not good] for $150) i will be needing a new computer eventual, especialy when i move out, so i think i might make it an iMac.
Or an Amiga if iFusion (PPC Mac Emulator) supports MacOS X.
I read this a Coupla days ago, i thought it was 750-1000Mhz upgrade cards!
I cant remember but are these PCI cards? I guess there wouldnt be much other ways to use them, but Macs dont normaly have PCI cards do they!
If they are PCI, i wonder if they could be used in any ordinary POP board. I hear people are already talking about using them with their AmigaOne-G3-SE's
I was reading a forum today where someone was explaining how to put Workbench (GUI Shell) into the RAM on a classic Amiga.
Now, its not bios, but it just as fast or faster and to have that ability is pretty cool. I think the cmd shell was also stored in the Amiga's ROM. Not sure on that!
I dont see this as anything bad. Sure people could be reading my email, and personal messages, and deep down, i prolly dont like that, but as long as the information isnt made public and is helping either catch people before commiting some sort of crime, then im all for it.
The more bogans they catch the better!
However, i can see why others dont like it, but tough titties i guess:)
The AmigaOne released by Eyetech or soon to be released by eyetech has already gone through its first revision and will be offering G3/G4 module PPC's in the not too distant future.
I also want MacOSX and am seeing it as a real alternative to Windows. Infact, i believe that goes without saying now!
But yer, the hardware is too cheap, and i wouldnt be able to run AmigaOS anyway! I Apple supported POP boards, but then again, may still require a ROM, like AmigaOS!
Bugger!! When i get my next computer, ill c what happens. I might get an Amiga then run MacOS X through iFusion (PPC Mac Emulator for AmigaOS) and get a ROM for it somewhere *frown*...
MacOS X is definatly an OS a lot of people are going to consider switching too in the comming years...
For me, i love the Unix command line, and i am quite fond of BSD after being frustrated with Linux and its complexities...
BSD to me is a little more simplier (i like OpenBSD) and i love the small footprint of it. I dont live on Open Source operating systems, i use Windows mostly, because its freak'n easy and i dont have to screw arround to get my internal modem to work, or printing and so forth.
I would love to get an Amiga, however, they prolly wont be that usable for me until OS5 and thats WAY off:).
If i was looking to get a new computer in the comming year, i would seriously consider MacOSX as other geeks quite like me will also do. This is mainly due to the Unix Structure that i have come to admir(i love bash) and also Apples infomous user friendlyness.
It looks like to me this is a seriously powerful OS and one that is going to take the Geek community by storm. Hopfuly with time, average consumers will catch on!
Well does it? Does this Distro and anyother PPC distros run on other PPC boards, such as the TerronCX or the new ATC PPC mobo from Eyetech (which is similar or the same)?
Or, do these just run on Macs. Shouldnt linux distros like Mandrak, Gentoo (i see someone said up there) Yello Dog and others all make strides to get their OS working on open, non propietry PPC hardware? So that it might be possible to bring down prices?
Hahah, very nice game. Best thing it not only runs on Linux but IRIX, and prolly a lot of other games, which is good in our office because we have a lot of different machines.
Palm is only one of the devices AmigaDE does not yet work on... hrmm correct me if im wrong... Well i know it doesnt work on PalmBeOS... Sega would be much better off coding for the AmigaDE or Java... Why would you target the specific OS or Hardware? It doesnt make much sence. There are going to be so many PDA's out there, infact there are already, and its just going to get worse!!! They all should be compatible, and doing say with games is only going to sell more.
Plus, those screen grabs look prety pathetic, what were they working with? The Amiga-Anywhere products look abslutly supurb on PDA's. That software is actualy going to sell, if Sega's games look anything like this, they're going to have a hardenough time making money out of this area as they did with the game consols in the end.
Plus, how do they plan to compete with Amiga Anyehere products, which, as its name suggest, will run just about anywhere?
But its a good idea, Lasers could be used to diagnose problems in the elderly or children.
They also could be used to see what your children have been upto the night before:) - drinking, smoking pot, snorting crack, whatever!! - I would love one of these when i have kids!
Is this a privacy concern? I dont think so, savty of your children is more important. If the tolite is the onthing that can help us, well, let it be!
Why do people keep on ranting and cursing about a particular choice a person has made that may make them feel happy and apart of something? A lot of people don't use Amiga's because they believe they are going to go on forever. Most peoples, I would think, use these machines because they grew up on them and now, after (possibly) trying others, enjoy these machines most of all.
I have heard a lot of people say that Linux will never be a main stream OS. But do you Linux users really care? Why do you use Linux? Because you enjoy it. I use Linux cause I enjoy it. I'm using BSD and QNX now because I'm curious. I use Windows because sometimes (in-between it crashing) I get the odd chance to use some relatively good applications like word and a browser that supports most modern features.
People like to use what they are most comfortable with and what they enjoy so why all the rants and "your beating a dead horse"? We've all heard it before. And its all getting a bit boring.
I believe one day, there will not be one main stream OS. It will be a collecting of Linux, BSD, Windows, Apple and maybe even Amiga. They all have their strengths. And I believe that no system has the right to have sticks and stones thrown at it. So I say to those users of non-Amiga machines who rant and curse about it (and possibly about all other architectures that may not be as well supported as theirs), read something, learn and grow up.
Choice is grand!!!
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That was a bit harsh dude:}
And i must admit yer, its been a while since nothing has happened. But bill Mcewen or whateverhis name is has given us an SDK, a developer machine which is more than anyone gave us, and on novermber the first the new add on boards will come out, also with AmgiaOS4.0 PPC and AmigaOS 4.0 x86 which i encourage you too look at, and you did say you would buy it if they did come out with a product, although warn you, this wont be liket he PPC AmigaOS, i dont know the full details, but check out Amiga.org within the next few days, because there should be some large technical updates, and you'll be able to read them at Amgia.com. Amiga.org is where you mainly hear about everything, like slashdot.org.
Just take a look...:)
hate to break ya fun mate but their are actualy new products (set top box's and cell phones) that are running the AmigaOS.:) Yes the same one that will run on high end servers and PC's will also run on PDA's Game Consols, you name it >:P
Yes the AmigaOS will run on a spec machine which has been giving the name ZICO. Although this specifivation of combining hardware will be the Offical Amiga One. The specification is very wide and the AmigaOS will also run on over hardware not specified in the specification excluding CPU's. All CPUs mentioned in the specification are the only proccessors it will run on. x86 will definatly be one of them. It shouldnt be too hard to find the spec. Im not going to give it to ya cause im lazy.
I heared once that the Amigas were going to be round $US800... Something like that. But no i dont know if their talking about the upgrad baords or the StandAlone version!!!
Hi, im pretty sure that the OS is opensourse now(cept for the kernal:(). The OS runs hosted on a number of platforms and the list of OS that can host it are increaseing. Windows and Windows CE very soon if not atm.
Also it runs by its self. That is it doesnt have to be hosted by another OS.
And really, if your sick of people talking about the amiga why do you read their comments/articles ?
Another thing how can a computer die? Maybe people stop programing for it. But that never happened. Maybe you all just tuned out!
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I know javascript isnt hardcore programming (but yes i C/C++ and Java "it up" sometimes) but it can produce some very funny errors.
"null is null or not an object"
I dont think its up to linus to write this. Its up to anyone who wants this to write this. Ie, you :). Thats one problem with all of us, we want so much, but a lot of us arnt prepared to put in the effort and do, or at least learn to do.
/proc for hardware would be awsome. But configuring the kernel is not a newbie feature. If someoen can configure the kernel compile it and run, then they should be able to get the PC information they need relitivly easy.
:).
I admit, something that scans
But yer, i'd rock. Not that im going to right the thing to do it, i dont want it that bad
I dont find this a bad thing. I mean, they are only going to bug those who think are doing some pretty bad shit!! As long as i stay in ASIO's "good books" - i shall not even worry about it.
:)
Plus, what i dont know doesnt hurt me
Many people are still writing Demos. Now they write PPC demos. Once was released just recently. Hopfuly with a new platform, an upgraded OS demo making can make a mini compback?
Demo Competition anyone?
<Taken From Amiga.org>
A.D.A. (Amiga Demoscene Archive) is proud to present Kheshkhash, cooperation demo between Encore and Scenic [5th place at Mekka Symposium 2002]. Many thanks to Fusko for contributing 29 (!) pictures from this graphically stunning PPC demo.
</Taken From Amiga.org>
Dont forget their brilliant 7" Beastie statues... Brilliant :)
Well incase you didnt already know, Microsoft Windows as we know it today (XP) is actualy based on Unix. Although, you might as well say it wasnt, dare i say most of it has prolly be "worked" out of the system.
:)
By when bill gates started out in this area, he first created his own version of Unix, which i can not remember the name of, but this eventualy became a foundation for NT, which of course is worked into XP now.
A simple search on google should reveal Micorsofts beginings on the Unix platform.
Well, Amiga Inc dont have control over the AmigaOne's. Thats Eyetechs concern, and they can sell these boards to whoever they want.
True the AmigaOne's have special dongal code, but this shouldnt effect the runnin of other OS's, infact, you can get the boards with out the dongal code!
Quote:"I'd been eyeing OS X since it was announced, and I have to say that Apple has done a spectacular job creating what I never thought was possible... a Unix that my girlfriend can use."
:) and on a 400Mhz G3, it wasnt too slow, and it was an early version of OSX.
Not that i have a girl friend, but this guy is right on the money. This machine has so much geekness about it, its not funny. I actualy had a little peack at one the other night, what i saw was real nice
Since this PC is actualy old now (i didnt realise untill my dad bought a better computer[still not good] for $150) i will be needing a new computer eventual, especialy when i move out, so i think i might make it an iMac.
Or an Amiga if iFusion (PPC Mac Emulator) supports MacOS X.
I read this a Coupla days ago, i thought it was 750-1000Mhz upgrade cards!
I cant remember but are these PCI cards? I guess there wouldnt be much other ways to use them, but Macs dont normaly have PCI cards do they!
If they are PCI, i wonder if they could be used in any ordinary POP board. I hear people are already talking about using them with their AmigaOne-G3-SE's
I was reading a forum today where someone was explaining how to put Workbench (GUI Shell) into the RAM on a classic Amiga.
Now, its not bios, but it just as fast or faster and to have that ability is pretty cool. I think the cmd shell was also stored in the Amiga's ROM. Not sure on that!
I dont see this as anything bad. Sure people could be reading my email, and personal messages, and deep down, i prolly dont like that, but as long as the information isnt made public and is helping either catch people before commiting some sort of crime, then im all for it.
:)
The more bogans they catch the better!
However, i can see why others dont like it, but tough titties i guess
The AmigaOne released by Eyetech or soon to be released by eyetech has already gone through its first revision and will be offering G3/G4 module PPC's in the not too distant future.
I also want MacOSX and am seeing it as a real alternative to Windows. Infact, i believe that goes without saying now!
But yer, the hardware is too cheap, and i wouldnt be able to run AmigaOS anyway! I Apple supported POP boards, but then again, may still require a ROM, like AmigaOS!
Bugger!! When i get my next computer, ill c what happens. I might get an Amiga then run MacOS X through iFusion (PPC Mac Emulator for AmigaOS) and get a ROM for it somewhere *frown*...
MacOS X is definatly an OS a lot of people are going to consider switching too in the comming years...
:).
For me, i love the Unix command line, and i am quite fond of BSD after being frustrated with Linux and its complexities...
BSD to me is a little more simplier (i like OpenBSD) and i love the small footprint of it. I dont live on Open Source operating systems, i use Windows mostly, because its freak'n easy and i dont have to screw arround to get my internal modem to work, or printing and so forth.
I would love to get an Amiga, however, they prolly wont be that usable for me until OS5 and thats WAY off
If i was looking to get a new computer in the comming year, i would seriously consider MacOSX as other geeks quite like me will also do. This is mainly due to the Unix Structure that i have come to admir(i love bash) and also Apples infomous user friendlyness.
It looks like to me this is a seriously powerful OS and one that is going to take the Geek community by storm. Hopfuly with time, average consumers will catch on!
Well does it? Does this Distro and anyother PPC distros run on other PPC boards, such as the TerronCX or the new ATC PPC mobo from Eyetech (which is similar or the same)?
Or, do these just run on Macs. Shouldnt linux distros like Mandrak, Gentoo (i see someone said up there) Yello Dog and others all make strides to get their OS working on open, non propietry PPC hardware? So that it might be possible to bring down prices?
Hahah, very nice game. Best thing it not only runs on Linux but IRIX, and prolly a lot of other games, which is good in our office because we have a lot of different machines.
:}
Im not sure the boss likes it all that much
Palm is only one of the devices AmigaDE does not yet work on... hrmm correct me if im wrong... Well i know it doesnt work on PalmBeOS... Sega would be much better off coding for the AmigaDE or Java... Why would you target the specific OS or Hardware? It doesnt make much sence. There are going to be so many PDA's out there, infact there are already, and its just going to get worse!!! They all should be compatible, and doing say with games is only going to sell more.
Plus, those screen grabs look prety pathetic, what were they working with? The Amiga-Anywhere products look abslutly supurb on PDA's. That software is actualy going to sell, if Sega's games look anything like this, they're going to have a hardenough time making money out of this area as they did with the game consols in the end.
Plus, how do they plan to compete with Amiga Anyehere products, which, as its name suggest, will run just about anywhere?
I wrote that :)...
:) - drinking, smoking pot, snorting crack, whatever!! - I would love one of these when i have kids!
But its a good idea, Lasers could be used to diagnose problems in the elderly or children.
They also could be used to see what your children have been upto the night before
Is this a privacy concern? I dont think so, savty of your children is more important. If the tolite is the onthing that can help us, well, let it be!
Why do people keep on ranting and cursing about a particular choice a person has made that may make them feel happy and apart of something? A lot of people don't use Amiga's because they believe they are going to go on forever. Most peoples, I would think, use these machines because they grew up on them and now, after (possibly) trying others, enjoy these machines most of all.
I have heard a lot of people say that Linux will never be a main stream OS. But do you Linux users really care? Why do you use Linux? Because you enjoy it. I use Linux cause I enjoy it. I'm using BSD and QNX now because I'm curious. I use Windows because sometimes (in-between it crashing) I get the odd chance to use some relatively good applications like word and a browser that supports most modern features.
People like to use what they are most comfortable with and what they enjoy so why all the rants and " your beating a dead horse "? We've all heard it before. And its all getting a bit boring.
I believe one day, there will not be one main stream OS. It will be a collecting of Linux, BSD, Windows, Apple and maybe even Amiga. They all have their strengths. And I believe that no system has the right to have sticks and stones thrown at it. So I say to those users of non-Amiga machines who rant and curse about it (and possibly about all other architectures that may not be as well supported as theirs), read something, learn and grow up.
Choice is grand!!!
That was a bit harsh dude :}
And i must admit yer, its been a while since nothing has happened. But bill Mcewen or whateverhis name is has given us an SDK, a developer machine which is more than anyone gave us, and on novermber the first the new add on boards will come out, also with AmgiaOS4.0 PPC and AmigaOS 4.0 x86 which i encourage you too look at, and you did say you would buy it if they did come out with a product, although warn you, this wont be liket he PPC AmigaOS, i dont know the full details, but check out Amiga.org within the next few days, because there should be some large technical updates, and you'll be able to read them at Amgia.com. Amiga.org is where you mainly hear about everything, like slashdot.org.
Just take a look... :)
I must say that i was almost considering getting an AmigaOne and the new PPC AmigaOS when it finaly hits 5.0 (long way away).
:)
I havnt used an Amiga in years, but now with the x86 port i truley believe that Amiga Inc can find many past Amigaians return.
I for one have been giving many OSes a go (just downloaded QNX) and i realy want to give AmigaOS another go.
Amiga Inc, you have just found yourself a new customer!!
hate to break ya fun mate but their are actualy new products (set top box's and cell phones) that are running the AmigaOS. :) Yes the same one that will run on high end servers and PC's will also run on PDA's Game Consols, you name it >:P
Yes the AmigaOS will run on a spec machine which has been giving the name ZICO. Although this specifivation of combining hardware will be the Offical Amiga One. The specification is very wide and the AmigaOS will also run on over hardware not specified in the specification excluding CPU's. All CPUs mentioned in the specification are the only proccessors it will run on. x86 will definatly be one of them. It shouldnt be too hard to find the spec. Im not going to give it to ya cause im lazy.
C is not a portable asm language. Tool.
I heared once that the Amigas were going to be round $US800... Something like that. But no i dont know if their talking about the upgrad baords or the StandAlone version!!!
Hi, im pretty sure that the OS is opensourse now(cept for the kernal :(). The OS runs hosted on a number of platforms and the list of OS that can host it are increaseing. Windows and Windows CE very soon if not atm.
Also it runs by its self. That is it doesnt have to be hosted by another OS.
And really, if your sick of people talking about the amiga why do you read their comments/articles ?
Another thing how can a computer die? Maybe people stop programing for it. But that never happened. Maybe you all just tuned out!