I used to use linux and freebsd. I still use windows at work. Guess what? perfect/seamless dreamy cross platform-ness. the skins, config files, everything, just work exactly the same all across the three OS. (they have native version for freebsd too) I just copied the whole config directory from home to work. (I'm a big fan of the beos skin)
I've been using opera since opera 4/5 days and only recently given it up because I use mac os x now. I use safari and waiting for opera 7 for mac.
I have audiobooks and comedy's and movie dialogues and speeches on my iPod. When I play any random tracks, there is a small chance that I'll get to hear "I have a dream" speech by Martin L. King.
That's why I have a "smart playlist." I don't think that kind of feature is available in dell/creative. I know it's not on creative for sure. I don't know about dell's software on windows.
That's basically when you have a playlist that says "include all songs except when the genre is either speech or dialogue or audiobook." You can make other conditional include/exclude as well in any combination with "smart playlists."
So when I add a new song, that will go automatically into the smart playlist which will shuffle itself. When I add another speech, it won't go in there. It automatically updates itself.
Tell me, is there such thing in dell? I've seen it somewhere else once. I just can't remember where.
Yes. I fully cede that it's one of the primary reason why iPod is at the top.
There are two main advantages to iPod aside from iTunes integration.
UI:
as mentioned, having a scroll wheel would make the competitors almost as good. not as polished as apple's ipod, but probably good enough even for me.
size:
this is what I don't understand. Apple doesn't have a patent on small hdd mp3 players! Even though the competitors' products are only "little bit" larger in measurements (in all three dimensions), they add up to like 180% larger than iPod in volume. (talking about creative zen. I think iRiver is pretty damn close to iPod (so i've heard)) Certainly they are all very much heavier than iPod.
Considering iPod was built on off-the-shelf tech, can anybody tell me why competitors are having hard time making a small player? please?
Dell licensed the software from Creative Zen series.
I feel that I won't get modded up because i'm so late to the thread. (and i live for karma)
But I am very surprised that nobody has mentioned the very important facts about Dell Jukebox. In fact, I am close to believing that everybody is talking out of their ass when it comes to hdd mp3 players.
My brother has a Creative Jen Xtra. It cost 270 bucks for 30gb model. It's the cheapest hdd player ever when it comes to gb/dollar. I found a guy who had a Dell Jukebox. Both of them had the exact same interface. I didn't see enough of the dell to see if it's got all the creative's EAX stuff, but the user interface is exactly the same.
Now, you don't know how bad the interface is. And frankly, if you've never really used iPod, I suppose you'd think it's pretty nifty. You just don't really know how good life can be.
First of all, dell/creative doesn't work as usb mass storage device. Even iPod works as firewire mass storage device!! The device driver and the provided software sucks. Again, perhaps you don't know how good things can be unless you are used to iTunes/iPod combo. All I know is that the drivers for dell/creative cause crashes on windows xp sometimes and half of the times it doesn't crash, it doesn't work. It's like crapshoot.
On the dell/creative interface, it is the most convoluted thing. No designers in the world has ever come up with how you can comfortably present all the complexity of hdd mp3 device. No one. For example, in iPod, there is no way to delete songs or find bps of songs or edit existing playlists. Apple made a decision when they decided to hide all that for simplicity of use.
On dell/creative, you can do all of the above. The tradeoff? You can't just play a song by clicking on it! When you click on a song, it brings up a menu and you scroll to "play this song" and it enters the "currently selected" section where it will be played. Most operations make you hunt through menus and godawful number of clicks.
Sizes. dell/creative is big. I can use my iPod comfortably with three fingers. My index finger supports iPod, my middle finger balances, my thumb clicks buttons. I have to use the whole hand to hold the dell/creative. Especially creative zen is awkward because there are buttons to operate on the side of the players. You have to coordinate all five fingers which all has buttons assigned to it.
I bet you, if I had gotten dell/creative about an year ago, i would have thought it was pretty sweet. But alas, I got an iPod. I know how good things can be. I tell you, no reviewers have spent enough time with any number of mp3 players to really know how good iPod is compared to the others. Trust me, we wouldn't be hearing about no iPod killers.
For the records, I am an ex-linux user of about 3-4 years. Then I became freebsd user. Then I got a used crt imac g3 600mhz (fastest computer i own). My freebsd server still serves files over samba and acts as the gateway.
seriously, if you work with consoles on unix system, scroll lock was never outdated. (I'm inferring from linux and freebsd.)
In linux, scroll lock halts the scrolling of the screen. (like when 'ls' is printing stuff like mad, you can freeze the screen. more usefully, you can halt the output of gcc.)
Now, my memory of linux console mode is faint, because i switched to freebsd more than a year ago. It took me a moon or two to get used to freebsd console.
In freebsed console, scroll lock not only halts the screen output, it also allows you to scroll up and down. In freebsd console, normal shift-pgup and shift-pgdown of linux doesn't work. Instead, if you press scroll locks, you are in this scrolling mode and you can use your up-arrow, down-arrow, pgup, and pgdown to scroll. Then when you are down looking, you can press scroll lock again and business will go about as usual.
11:10 AM - the G5 has some amazing properties. 1) It is 64 bit (as mentioned). Runs 32-bit apps nativly. 2) runs at up to 2Ghz 3) 1ghz frontside bus. but we knew all this already.
11:09 AM - World's fastest PC is here. There are three things. Chip, System, Product. The chip is the 970 (g5). 64-bit. Made by IBM. Screw Motorola.
11:09 AM - It's true!
11:08 AM - Here are the g5's. He's talking about the leak.... Was it true?
Actually, for the longest time, i have been using slashdot in "light" mode (available under one of the preferences).
It's actually ultra-clean and very light. it's faster to download and render - it's still very usuable under lynx and i have for a while too. And it's pretty color agnostic. as in, just black on white. So give slashdot light a try.
Basically the table is not a monsterosity and the sidebars are missing. And you don't get the pretty topic icons.
I would like to mention as a long time user of Opera for linux (and thus interacts with mozilla frequently also) that Opera's gestures are more feature rich and I get frustrated by the inadequacy of mozilla's gesture all the time.
Mozilla's people didn't quite understand what gestures were. While they made them infinitely more configurable, they couldn't get the polish or the usefulness of, say, switching windows or open in background.
And to point out the obvious, there was a very very large gap of time between the release of Opera's gesture and mozilla's plugin. Plus, mozilla's gestures were largely copied from Opera's.
You are just talkign out of your ass. I bet you never used Xcdroast really. Plus you haven't used nero burner either.
sharks with friggin' laser beams attached to the
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· Score: 4, Funny
DR. EVIL Release the sharks!
(to the room) All the sharks have had laser beams attached to their heads. I figure every creature deserves a warm meal.
FRAU FARBISSINA (Clearing her throat nervously) Dr. Evil?
DR. EVIL Yes, what is it? You're interrupting my moment of triumph.
FRAU FARBISSINA It's about the sharks. Since you were frozen, they've been placed on the Endangered Species List. We tried to get some, but it will take months to clear up the red tape.
DR. EVIL (disappointed) Right.
(to Austin) Mr. Powers, we're going to lower you in a tank of piranhas with laser beams attached to their heads.
(Frau clears her throat again.)
DR. EVIL What is it now?
FRAU FARBISSINA Well, we experimented with lasers, but you would be surprised at how heavy they are. They actually outweighed the piranha themselves, and the fish, well, they sank to the bottom and died.
DR. EVIL I have one simple request- C, and it can't be done? Remind me again why I pay you people?
What do we have?
FRAU FARBISSINA Sea bass.
DR. EVIL Right.
Re:Logitech leaving out us Lefties!
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I got for christmas this Microsoft Wireless Optical Mouse Blue.
Is this true? Does RH8.0 really have freetype with the correct byte code interpreter? Does RH8.0 really include the freetype that violates US patent laws?
I couldn't find the answer to above question on google; someone please give me definitive answer.
Or rather, to me, the no amount of noise created by having giant heatsinks on everything is worth a little underclocking. (and maybe one giant quite fan for general airflow)
Seriously. Isn't that really what justifies having ridiculously fast CPU's? So that you can say, "yeah, but these really power hungry and hot CPU's can run really really cool and power conservatively at comparable clock speed as top of the line CPU's from last year!"?
I thought so, but how come people rarely do so? Or never hear about anybody doing it anyways. Isn't quality of life an important thing or is "more power, ARR ARR ARR" the mantra today?
Then again, why am I asking that to bunch of rowdy/. geeky crowd?
(for reference, quitepc.com sells cool stuff like heatsink for motherboard, heatsink for video cards, heatsink for cpu's, quite powersupply, and HD enclosures. I could only afford a powersupply for a small file server of mine, but hey, first time I turned it on, I didn't know it was on.)
And that's exactly what I say. I'm also the one to say that Linux don't really need to take over the world. Kinda like how manual transmission people don't shove their stick down automatic transmission people.
You don't care for commercial programs. I don't care for active promotion. I say if you think linux is too hard, you aren't the kind of person to be using it.
But food for thought:
If we are too lethargic in the promotion of linux, it may die. If there are not sufficient enough new recruits, it may start a vicious cycle in that there will be no new developers. Once it's stale, people may stop using it entirely.
So while one maybe content and see the blind promotion as too radical and evangelical, they are important piece of the puzzle.
So don't be too content and remember that you can only be content with high quality open source programs because of many volunteers who gave their time and talent. And the people who demand commercial programs for linux had a big part in making that happen.
Yes, and I use opera (QT) under windowmaker on slackware 8.
But people still bitch. People bitch when they see motif, because it's ugly. People bitch at OpenOffice because it's ugly with it's own widget. (But few say it out loud, because OO is their poster child for open source.) People bitch when an app is still in GTK1 when they are enjoying GTK2 goodness. People want AA fonts. People will be irritated when an old commercial app wants OSS but it's been deprecated.
It's not that it won't work. My two most frequent apps are gaim and opera, GTK and QT.
But I don't enjoy the fact that widgets are different.
It's about not having the polish that commercial apps are supposed to have. And no matter what the company do, commercial apps will not fit in. (Just having two major desktop environment guarantees it.) And once it gets stale because the widget gets rewritten with new API (gtk1 -> gtk2), it's obsolete. win32 hasn't changed that much.
I'm not criticizing open source or linux. I like linux. I don't really miss commercial software.
Which came first? Poor Linux port sales or poor featured linux port? or...
Not so cool environment for commercial programs??
Let's face it. Linux programs are high upkeep projects. Wrote a motif software? People call it ugly. Wrote your own widget? People still bitch. Wrote it in GTK 1? Gotta upgrade to GTK 2 now. Nevermind all those bitching KDE users. Go ahead, write it with QT3 and the fancy KDE3 integration. I'm still bitching; I use windowmaker. It's x86 only? Mac linux people whine. It doesn't work with the latest glibc? It's redhat only? WTF is this.rpm only thing? Why aren't you taking advantage of XRENDER? I want my aa fonts, dammit. Where the ALSA version? It doesn't cut and paste right! (It never will. As long as gnome and kde doesn't work perfectly with each other, it ain't working on one of them.)
Think of all the varieties of linux. To cater to every single one of them out there, we need exactly what we have now: open source projects with volunteers and an active community. That doesn't sound like commercial software to me.
I will have to politely disagree about that statement regarding windows.
Windows do allow the adjustments in fonts dpi. When I used windows, I had that cranked up to 150 to 160 dpi, just because my eyes felt better that way. (under the highest resolution of course)
Almost all application abides by it. All menu bars, all toolbars, Opera, MS Office, just about any windows widget.
I don't know what kind of programs (non conforming programs) the poster was using, but the situation has only gotten better from last time I checked.
Oddly, IE was like the only program that didn't like to follow the damn thing.
Slashdot Mirror
My slashdot setting has every story on the front page... so I never know which is frontpage and which isn't.
x68000
It's uploading as i am posting this. So it won't be up for a while. I'm off to sleep.
here here brother!
I used to use linux and freebsd. I still use windows at work. Guess what? perfect/seamless dreamy cross platform-ness. the skins, config files, everything, just work exactly the same all across the three OS. (they have native version for freebsd too) I just copied the whole config directory from home to work. (I'm a big fan of the beos skin)
I've been using opera since opera 4/5 days and only recently given it up because I use mac os x now. I use safari and waiting for opera 7 for mac.
I have audiobooks and comedy's and movie dialogues and speeches on my iPod. When I play any random tracks, there is a small chance that I'll get to hear "I have a dream" speech by Martin L. King.
That's why I have a "smart playlist." I don't think that kind of feature is available in dell/creative. I know it's not on creative for sure. I don't know about dell's software on windows.
That's basically when you have a playlist that says "include all songs except when the genre is either speech or dialogue or audiobook." You can make other conditional include/exclude as well in any combination with "smart playlists."
So when I add a new song, that will go automatically into the smart playlist which will shuffle itself. When I add another speech, it won't go in there. It automatically updates itself.
Tell me, is there such thing in dell? I've seen it somewhere else once. I just can't remember where.
Yes. I fully cede that it's one of the primary reason why iPod is at the top.
There are two main advantages to iPod aside from iTunes integration.
UI:
as mentioned, having a scroll wheel would make the competitors almost as good. not as polished as apple's ipod, but probably good enough even for me.
size:
this is what I don't understand. Apple doesn't have a patent on small hdd mp3 players! Even though the competitors' products are only "little bit" larger in measurements (in all three dimensions), they add up to like 180% larger than iPod in volume. (talking about creative zen. I think iRiver is pretty damn close to iPod (so i've heard)) Certainly they are all very much heavier than iPod.
Considering iPod was built on off-the-shelf tech, can anybody tell me why competitors are having hard time making a small player? please?
seriously. someone tell me.
Dell licensed the software from Creative Zen series.
I feel that I won't get modded up because i'm so late to the thread. (and i live for karma)
But I am very surprised that nobody has mentioned the very important facts about Dell Jukebox. In fact, I am close to believing that everybody is talking out of their ass when it comes to hdd mp3 players.
My brother has a Creative Jen Xtra. It cost 270 bucks for 30gb model. It's the cheapest hdd player ever when it comes to gb/dollar. I found a guy who had a Dell Jukebox. Both of them had the exact same interface. I didn't see enough of the dell to see if it's got all the creative's EAX stuff, but the user interface is exactly the same.
Now, you don't know how bad the interface is. And frankly, if you've never really used iPod, I suppose you'd think it's pretty nifty. You just don't really know how good life can be.
First of all, dell/creative doesn't work as usb mass storage device. Even iPod works as firewire mass storage device!! The device driver and the provided software sucks. Again, perhaps you don't know how good things can be unless you are used to iTunes/iPod combo. All I know is that the drivers for dell/creative cause crashes on windows xp sometimes and half of the times it doesn't crash, it doesn't work. It's like crapshoot.
On the dell/creative interface, it is the most convoluted thing. No designers in the world has ever come up with how you can comfortably present all the complexity of hdd mp3 device. No one. For example, in iPod, there is no way to delete songs or find bps of songs or edit existing playlists. Apple made a decision when they decided to hide all that for simplicity of use.
On dell/creative, you can do all of the above. The tradeoff? You can't just play a song by clicking on it! When you click on a song, it brings up a menu and you scroll to "play this song" and it enters the "currently selected" section where it will be played. Most operations make you hunt through menus and godawful number of clicks.
Sizes. dell/creative is big. I can use my iPod comfortably with three fingers. My index finger supports iPod, my middle finger balances, my thumb clicks buttons. I have to use the whole hand to hold the dell/creative. Especially creative zen is awkward because there are buttons to operate on the side of the players. You have to coordinate all five fingers which all has buttons assigned to it.
I bet you, if I had gotten dell/creative about an year ago, i would have thought it was pretty sweet. But alas, I got an iPod. I know how good things can be. I tell you, no reviewers have spent enough time with any number of mp3 players to really know how good iPod is compared to the others. Trust me, we wouldn't be hearing about no iPod killers.
For the records, I am an ex-linux user of about 3-4 years. Then I became freebsd user. Then I got a used crt imac g3 600mhz (fastest computer i own). My freebsd server still serves files over samba and acts as the gateway.
I still use scroll lock, you insensitive clod!
seriously, if you work with consoles on unix system, scroll lock was never outdated. (I'm inferring from linux and freebsd.)
In linux, scroll lock halts the scrolling of the screen. (like when 'ls' is printing stuff like mad, you can freeze the screen. more usefully, you can halt the output of gcc.)
Now, my memory of linux console mode is faint, because i switched to freebsd more than a year ago. It took me a moon or two to get used to freebsd console.
In freebsed console, scroll lock not only halts the screen output, it also allows you to scroll up and down. In freebsd console, normal shift-pgup and shift-pgdown of linux doesn't work. Instead, if you press scroll locks, you are in this scrolling mode and you can use your up-arrow, down-arrow, pgup, and pgdown to scroll. Then when you are down looking, you can press scroll lock again and business will go about as usual.
11:10 AM - the G5 has some amazing properties. 1) It is 64 bit (as mentioned). Runs 32-bit apps nativly. 2) runs at up to 2Ghz 3) 1ghz frontside bus. but we knew all this already.
11:09 AM - World's fastest PC is here. There are three things. Chip, System, Product. The chip is the 970 (g5). 64-bit. Made by IBM. Screw Motorola.
11:09 AM - It's true!
11:08 AM - Here are the g5's. He's talking about the leak.... Was it true?
Actually, for the longest time, i have been using slashdot in "light" mode (available under one of the preferences).
It's actually ultra-clean and very light. it's faster to download and render - it's still very usuable under lynx and i have for a while too. And it's pretty color agnostic. as in, just black on white. So give slashdot light a try.
Basically the table is not a monsterosity and the sidebars are missing. And you don't get the pretty topic icons.
I would like to mention as a long time user of Opera for linux (and thus interacts with mozilla frequently also) that Opera's gestures are more feature rich and I get frustrated by the inadequacy of mozilla's gesture all the time.
Mozilla's people didn't quite understand what gestures were. While they made them infinitely more configurable, they couldn't get the polish or the usefulness of, say, switching windows or open in background.
And to point out the obvious, there was a very very large gap of time between the release of Opera's gesture and mozilla's plugin. Plus, mozilla's gestures were largely copied from Opera's.
cough bullshit cough
You are just talkign out of your ass. I bet you never used Xcdroast really. Plus you haven't used nero burner either.
DR. EVIL
Release the sharks!
(to the room)
All the sharks have had laser beams attached to their heads. I figure every creature deserves a warm meal.
FRAU FARBISSINA
(Clearing her throat nervously)
Dr. Evil?
DR. EVIL
Yes, what is it? You're interrupting my moment of triumph.
FRAU FARBISSINA
It's about the sharks. Since you were frozen, they've been placed on the Endangered Species List. We tried to get some, but it will take months to clear up the red tape.
DR. EVIL
(disappointed)
Right.
(to Austin)
Mr. Powers, we're going to lower you in a tank of piranhas with laser beams attached to their heads.
(Frau clears her throat again.)
DR. EVIL
What is it now?
FRAU FARBISSINA
Well, we experimented with lasers, but you would be surprised at how heavy they are. They actually outweighed the piranha themselves, and the fish, well, they sank to the bottom and died.
DR. EVIL
I have one simple request- C, and it can't be done? Remind me again why I pay you people?
What do we have?
FRAU FARBISSINA
Sea bass.
DR. EVIL
Right.
I got for christmas this Microsoft Wireless Optical Mouse Blue.
Sweetest mouse I ever used.
Opera 6.11 for linux is 3.4 MB.
Slackware 8.1
Opera 6.11 for linux is 3.4 MB.
May I point out that you didn't really specify what you did?
If you move _one_ folder with many many things in it, you are updating _one_ inode.
If you move _600_ files in a folder, you are updating _600_ inodes.
Did you move one item or many items?
Is this true?
Does RH8.0 really have freetype with the correct byte code interpreter?
Does RH8.0 really include the freetype that violates US patent laws?
I couldn't find the answer to above question on google; someone please give me definitive answer.
Am I the only who read
Batman Retreats, But Only To Regroup?
"Holy low self-esteem batman! I'm a side kick in my own fantasy!"
Or rather, to me, the no amount of noise created by having giant heatsinks on everything is worth a little underclocking. (and maybe one giant quite fan for general airflow)
/. geeky crowd?
Seriously. Isn't that really what justifies having ridiculously fast CPU's? So that you can say, "yeah, but these really power hungry and hot CPU's can run really really cool and power conservatively at comparable clock speed as top of the line CPU's from last year!"?
I thought so, but how come people rarely do so? Or never hear about anybody doing it anyways. Isn't quality of life an important thing or is "more power, ARR ARR ARR" the mantra today?
Then again, why am I asking that to bunch of rowdy
(for reference, quitepc.com sells cool stuff like heatsink for motherboard, heatsink for video cards, heatsink for cpu's, quite powersupply, and HD enclosures. I could only afford a powersupply for a small file server of mine, but hey, first time I turned it on, I didn't know it was on.)
Kudzu is redhat's.
And that's exactly what I say. I'm also the one to say that Linux don't really need to take over the world. Kinda like how manual transmission people don't shove their stick down automatic transmission people.
You don't care for commercial programs. I don't care for active promotion. I say if you think linux is too hard, you aren't the kind of person to be using it.
But food for thought:
If we are too lethargic in the promotion of linux, it may die. If there are not sufficient enough new recruits, it may start a vicious cycle in that there will be no new developers. Once it's stale, people may stop using it entirely.
So while one maybe content and see the blind promotion as too radical and evangelical, they are important piece of the puzzle.
So don't be too content and remember that you can only be content with high quality open source programs because of many volunteers who gave their time and talent. And the people who demand commercial programs for linux had a big part in making that happen.
Yes, and I use opera (QT) under windowmaker on slackware 8.
But people still bitch. People bitch when they see motif, because it's ugly. People bitch at OpenOffice because it's ugly with it's own widget. (But few say it out loud, because OO is their poster child for open source.) People bitch when an app is still in GTK1 when they are enjoying GTK2 goodness. People want AA fonts. People will be irritated when an old commercial app wants OSS but it's been deprecated.
It's not that it won't work. My two most frequent apps are gaim and opera, GTK and QT.
But I don't enjoy the fact that widgets are different.
It's about not having the polish that commercial apps are supposed to have. And no matter what the company do, commercial apps will not fit in. (Just having two major desktop environment guarantees it.) And once it gets stale because the widget gets rewritten with new API (gtk1 -> gtk2), it's obsolete. win32 hasn't changed that much.
I'm not criticizing open source or linux. I like linux. I don't really miss commercial software.
Holy crappy developemental platform Obvious man!
.rpm only thing? Why aren't you taking advantage of XRENDER? I want my aa fonts, dammit. Where the ALSA version? It doesn't cut and paste right! (It never will. As long as gnome and kde doesn't work perfectly with each other, it ain't working on one of them.)
Which came first?
Poor Linux port sales or poor featured linux port? or...
Not so cool environment for commercial programs??
Let's face it. Linux programs are high upkeep projects. Wrote a motif software? People call it ugly. Wrote your own widget? People still bitch. Wrote it in GTK 1? Gotta upgrade to GTK 2 now. Nevermind all those bitching KDE users. Go ahead, write it with QT3 and the fancy KDE3 integration. I'm still bitching; I use windowmaker. It's x86 only? Mac linux people whine. It doesn't work with the latest glibc? It's redhat only? WTF is this
Think of all the varieties of linux. To cater to every single one of them out there, we need exactly what we have now: open source projects with volunteers and an active community. That doesn't sound like commercial software to me.
I will have to politely disagree about that statement regarding windows.
Windows do allow the adjustments in fonts dpi. When I used windows, I had that cranked up to 150 to 160 dpi, just because my eyes felt better that way. (under the highest resolution of course)
Almost all application abides by it. All menu bars, all toolbars, Opera, MS Office, just about any windows widget.
I don't know what kind of programs (non conforming programs) the poster was using, but the situation has only gotten better from last time I checked.
Oddly, IE was like the only program that didn't like to follow the damn thing.