1)It's not a question of a "decent" UI, it's a question of a "familiar" UI. You have a point regarding IT workers (whose jobs are mostly being farmed out to india, btw) needing to be adaptable, however I am mostly thinking of jane secertary or joe executive who are confronted with a *nix desktop and freak out.
2)Even if you have a point, with the rising cost of Enterprise Redhat, I think you might want to re-check the prices for RH and re-evaluate. I'm sure there are affordable solutions (FreeBSD), but I don't believe that RH is one of them any longer.
3)I would suggest that Linux work on two points:
->I/O Model, so that loading a large app like mozilla isn't choked by a large copy operation
->Instead of re-inventing the wheel, adopt UFS+Softupdates and move on. I have not tried UFS2 but I suspect it suffers from much the same slowdown as does ext2/3/jfs.
4)checked
5)again, you have to factor in the cost and resistence factor to adopting OO.
A troll mentioned WINE, however with the complexity of the WINE install --not to mention the "wisdom" of using alpha software in an proffesional environment-- that is not a viable corporate solution.
The problem with Zope is that with win32 you have two choices: instally cygwin/python with a ton of extraneous packaging, or ActiveState ActivePython wich appears to feature subtle proprietary incompatibilities that would certainly make running anything as complex as Zope out of the question.
Zope may well be a good Unix solution, but I don't believe that it is for everybody.
I would suggest to you that perhaps you should concentrate your efforts on freely available programming languages and protocols instead. Python is steadily gaining ground as an embedded scripting solution and more and more sites are turning to Perl so this will boost your employability.
As far as microsoft goes: man who sleeps with gates wakes up as goatse.
except that most game companies look at what happened to loki games and put developing for linux right below developing for the c64 on their list of priorities.
given your predeliction for making statements of a PC nature, I imagine you probably buy into the "benevolent savage" myth. That being the case, or even if it isn't, I think that you have to agree that the aboriginees and the indians were not creating vast empires that encompassed their world.
>>In roman times, not even half of the world had been explored...
>... by europeans.
By anyone. Did the aboriginees know about egypt, or the chinese know about madagascar?
that gaming hardware is a billion dollar industry. In circumstances like these, combined with the collapse of the dot-com "everything should be free" mindset there is little chance of specs being made available for open-source developers.
In roman times, not even half of the world had been explored, and they had conquered that. In our times, the entire world has been mapped out and america has conquered it, economically if not physically (physically, in the cases of afghanistan, iraq and syria).
a nation-wide ID system. Might be crowded if you have to take a drivers test as well as an internet test at the same time; but I'm sure that can be ironed out somehow. Maybe by having different certifications such as we already have for driving.
I think that with a little co operation between law enforcement and auto makers that high-speed persuits could be a thing of the past. By having an arrangement where a car's GPS system was also tied to the car's entire electrical system, you could arrange it (I would hope) so that a police officer in persuit of a felon could "remotely" turn off a felon's car --and thus potentially saving thousands of lives as this system is implemented all over the country.
I think that orwellian implications aside, this could be a Very Good Thing.
BSDi was NEVER a free (speech or beer) product, and as such really has and had no impact on the free software community. So, while another (some might say 'useless') proprietary software company goes down the shithole, it does not affect the free software movement in any signifigant way.
Free and Net BSD will continue to serve our community alongside of Linux as always, completely unaffected by today's announcement.
Can anyone recommend any linux-specific websites for picking up cheap distro cds from? Besides cheapbytes. Thanks.:-)
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Actually, there was nothing pro-or-anti linux in that post whatsoever.
That comment was an observation that during 1999, Linux was a fad. And in investment terms, that was very much the case. Go and compare stock values for Redhat, VA or any other publically traded linux company then and now and the difference is quite observable. This was reflected in numerous fly-by-night web-ventures that appeared on the web at that time.
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Just because the buzz has died down and people still use it, does not discount the fact that in 1999 it was a huge fad (that disappeared once people started losing their jobs).
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1)It's not a question of a "decent" UI, it's a question of a "familiar" UI. You have a point regarding IT workers (whose jobs are mostly being farmed out to india, btw) needing to be adaptable, however I am mostly thinking of jane secertary or joe executive who are confronted with a *nix desktop and freak out.
2)Even if you have a point, with the rising cost of Enterprise Redhat, I think you might want to re-check the prices for RH and re-evaluate. I'm sure there are affordable solutions (FreeBSD), but I don't believe that RH is one of them any longer.
3)I would suggest that Linux work on two points:
->I/O Model, so that loading a large app like mozilla isn't choked by a large copy operation
->Instead of re-inventing the wheel, adopt UFS+Softupdates and move on. I have not tried UFS2 but I suspect it suffers from much the same slowdown as does ext2/3/jfs.
4)checked
5)again, you have to factor in the cost and resistence factor to adopting OO.
A troll mentioned WINE, however with the complexity of the WINE install --not to mention the "wisdom" of using alpha software in an proffesional environment-- that is not a viable corporate solution.
1)The cost of re-training your office workers to use an alternate, inferior desktop when they already use microsoft products at home
2)The cost of enterprise solaris versus the cost of windows XP
3)The serious and noticeable inferior filesystem performance of the major linux filesystems compared to NTFS.
4)"slowaris". 'nuff said.
5)Word and Excell do not run on unix. You would have to factor in the cost and hassle of retraining your workforce to use shoddier tools.
Those are just five reasons why this is a bad idea which should have been discarded when it was originally refuted back in...oh...1998.
The problem with Zope is that with win32 you have two choices: instally cygwin/python with a ton of extraneous packaging, or ActiveState ActivePython wich appears to feature subtle proprietary incompatibilities that would certainly make running anything as complex as Zope out of the question.
Zope may well be a good Unix solution, but I don't believe that it is for everybody.
Glad I'm not the only one!
Fixed your post...unless you seriously think that you can have all four together. And if you do, I want some of what you're smoking!
I would suggest to you that perhaps you should concentrate your efforts on freely available programming languages and protocols instead. Python is steadily gaining ground as an embedded scripting solution and more and more sites are turning to Perl so this will boost your employability.
As far as microsoft goes: man who sleeps with gates wakes up as goatse.
except that most game companies look at what happened to loki games and put developing for linux right below developing for the c64 on their list of priorities.
given your predeliction for making statements of a PC nature, I imagine you probably buy into the "benevolent savage" myth. That being the case, or even if it isn't, I think that you have to agree that the aboriginees and the indians were not creating vast empires that encompassed their world.
... by europeans.
>>In roman times, not even half of the world had been explored...
>
By anyone. Did the aboriginees know about egypt, or the chinese know about madagascar?
that gaming hardware is a billion dollar industry. In circumstances like these, combined with the collapse of the dot-com "everything should be free" mindset there is little chance of specs being made available for open-source developers.
In roman times, not even half of the world had been explored, and they had conquered that. In our times, the entire world has been mapped out and america has conquered it, economically if not physically (physically, in the cases of afghanistan, iraq and syria).
And if outlaws are distracted by surfing, then that will leave the rest of the internet free for civilised people.
a nation-wide ID system. Might be crowded if you have to take a drivers test as well as an internet test at the same time; but I'm sure that can be ironed out somehow. Maybe by having different certifications such as we already have for driving.
Step AWAY from the keyboard indeed...
:-P)
(sorry, had to plug a friends' blog there.
"No commercial support"?
You mean like this:
Commercial Vendors - Consulting
Consultants for hire
?
I think that with a little co operation between law enforcement and auto makers that high-speed persuits could be a thing of the past. By having an arrangement where a car's GPS system was also tied to the car's entire electrical system, you could arrange it (I would hope) so that a police officer in persuit of a felon could "remotely" turn off a felon's car --and thus potentially saving thousands of lives as this system is implemented all over the country.
I think that orwellian implications aside, this could be a Very Good Thing.
BSDi was NEVER a free (speech or beer) product, and as such really has and had no impact on the free software community. So, while another (some might say 'useless') proprietary software company goes down the shithole, it does not affect the free software movement in any signifigant way.
Free and Net BSD will continue to serve our community alongside of Linux as always, completely unaffected by today's announcement.
that we'd see RICO (racketeer influenced corrupt organisation) charges brought against SCO (some corrupt organisation).
*sigh* A man can dream...
Can anyone recommend any linux-specific websites for picking up cheap distro cds from? Besides cheapbytes. Thanks. :-)
Actually, there was nothing pro-or-anti linux in that post whatsoever.
That comment was an observation that during 1999, Linux was a fad. And in investment terms, that was very much the case. Go and compare stock values for Redhat, VA or any other publically traded linux company then and now and the difference is quite observable. This was reflected in numerous fly-by-night web-ventures that appeared on the web at that time.
Visual Tcl/tk
Just because the buzz has died down and people still use it, does not discount the fact that in 1999 it was a huge fad (that disappeared once people started losing their jobs).
Or would that be pre-dot com?
Isn't it true that the google toolbar also reports where you visit to google, however?
Why would a user with a 5-digit UID fall for an >2 year old which is posted in nearly every *BSD story?
Discuss.
Replacing the feminist card is not an option, atm, tho. :(