I'm sure if MS software was backdoor ridden, these would be found by blackhats VERY quickly, henceforth brought to public eye, and removed.
That's exactly what has been going on for the last ten years, replacing one backdoor with another. Before you advise me to check my tinfoil, you should look some history of Microsoft's business practices. Microsoft was caught once inserting a "bug" in Windows that would crash DR's CP/M (a Bill's memo revealed in a court case few years later showed that it was done purposefully). Also, recall that AOL was caught few years ago with a backdoor in their AIM disguised precisely as a stack overflow bug (they were stupid enough to leave some code in the distribution which worked together with the "bug"). With Microsoft's resources, they could put dozen Indians on every single buffer in their source and be done with these so-called stack overflow bugs in month. Instead, all they do is keep moving the bug from one buffer to another, which gives them few months of functioning backdoor ahead of the black hats.
Another benefit of the scheme is that it keeps customers dependent, coming back for "fixes" (so MS can track your software use and check legality of your Windows, or whatever else they or the bureaucrats are interested in).
You don't know whether there is a second layer of protection which will, say, wipe out your hard disk a month from now, if you tamper with their first layer. With regular customer, the punishment is just the cost of new windows. With hacker, it is the whole hard disk or worse (e.g. they could leave a backdoor and watch what you're doing and what you got on your machine from now on, although they likely have a few already).
The Freeman peddles the same upside-down "logic" as Gates -- the offshoring is due to the lack of US programmers, so we need to educate more kids here. Yeah, so they can flip hamburgers the rest of their life, while waiting for a job in their professions.
The recent flood of similar articles, all playing to the $ame drummer, blaming the US workers and students means that shortly there will be more extensions, higher limits and more tax breaks for the importation of foreign 'experts' (to be trained by the US 'nonexperts' they are brought to replace) and offshoring. Whenever you see this kind of orchestrated yapping from the regime hacks, you should watch the Congress and hold onto your wallet. It's the same thieves, rigging the system again for the next squeeze on the US programmers and engineers.
If you dont trust the website,...You sound paranoid.
You don't know who may have access to that server database in the future (e.g. a hacker, police, FBI, IRS, your boss, your spuse, your competitor,...) and how they might use the information on the pages you visited there. For example, you may have bought some textbook from Amazon. But you may have also looked or searched for items you don't wish to become public, so you don't want the second search to be associated with your name via the cookie.
Even more importantly, you may not want to leave traces on your machine on what site/page you visited and when. The cookie is a form of history and anyone with access to your computer (e.g. someone suing you, or investigating something, or even your kid or your spuse etc.) can examine your browsing history from the cookies.
Maintaining browsing privacy is no more paranoid than shutting the door on the public restroom while you're using it, even if you are not doing anything illegal or immoral in the restroom.
This "feature" isn't so much about locking you into MS Windows. It is not even about preventing piracy (even though this aspect helps bring in allies among commercial software & content vendors).
The false opposition and noise raised on these two aspects serve to distract from the real problem, which is that governments need this "feature" to help them track all your internet activity and ID any documents and programs created or passing through your machine. Combined with computer sales slips and credit card info, anything that leaves your computer can be tracked back to you.
The red herring strategy of generating noise on lesser problems with this scheme is similar to that of cell phone industry making (behind the scenes) or amplifying the noise about annoyance from cell phone users in theaters and such, or even about dangers from talking and driving. The purpose is to drown voices talking about danger they really worry about -- the flood of brain tumors and senility coming down in few years (many teens chat on cell phones every day for hours).
Although one can disable or fake TCP timestamps (with a kernel level code), the timestamping and fingerprinting implemented via the scripts or Java applets would be much harder to block. An applet using various system facilities (e.g. screen) would produce time-profile fingerprint sensitive not just to hardware speed but to video card, video mode, Java and browser VM. Of course, the police, FBI, courts... can get your ID by just asking your ISP.
Are these people actually trying to say that occasional cell phone use puts out more radiation than that new 3.2 GHz Pentium
Radiation intensity is inversly proportional to the square of distance from the source. If your Pentium is 30 times farther from your brain than your cell phone, your brain is getting around 1000 times smaller proportion of the Pentium's radiation than that of the cell phone.
(I wonder if any physics is being taught at schools any more? Or would that put too much pressure on the self-esteem of the little ones.)
You missed the main "equalization" -- the standards of living. Our "leaders" (of either wing of the ruling party) have sold us out. All this terrorism hysteria is being whipped up to help build a police state to protect the thieves when it hits the fan. The way they're hurrying it up last few years, suggests it won't be long.
However, the consumers will end up paying for the wiretapping regadless, whether the ISP's are forced to do the upgrade themselves, or if the FBI funds since the FBI is funded with everyone American's dollars.
Yes, but if government pays, the cost is distributed much wider than if your ISP pays (where you pay much larger share). If the 260 million want to enjoy the "benefits" of the FBI's snooping into my computer, then 260 million ought to pay for it, not just me and my ISP.
How about going after the people who own the links in the body of the spam?
You are starting with a heretical premise that government, or rather, the large corporations which pull the strings, have the same objective as the end user (the end of spam). Of course, it could be stopped (by cracking down hard on those contracting the spammers). But it is much more useful for them if the "war on spam" goes on and on, while the measures with side-effects (on your wallet, your freedom and your privacy) are gradually introduced to "combat" the spam. Just recall other such "wars" such as "war on drugs" or "war on poverty/racism" or "war on smoking" or "war on guns" or the most recent "war on terrorism". This is an ancient recipe of control and enslavement, perfected by churches and priesthoods over millenia (war on sin/devil, war on death), merely translated into modern jargon and current circumstances.
So it is ok for a "Central Bank" to use private PC resources (RAM, CPU, printers) which don't belong to them for their own purposes and benefits, without asking or even without letting the owners know.
Furthermore, since the "currency detection" module is a black box even to the software & printer manufacturers distributing it, what else the "Central Bank" might have included, or may include later, into the distributed modules? What other kind of detection? Is there a network backdoor built in? Or identifying signature being attached to programs you compile or documents you save, or browser cookies or code? When someone secretly sneaks a spyware/monitoring module into my computer, it reveals a kind ruthless mindset ready for more of the same, at least.
Well, of course, they will further break win2k (to say nothing of 9x) -- they still need to bring it down to a completely unusable level (as the IE 6 did for win98; SP4 already did lots of damage to win2k). How else could they corral everyone into their latest DRM infested crippleware / moronware (the XP). They ain't the biggest for nothing.
Let's just say that I approached Service Pack 4 with a great deal of apprehension.
SP4 broke, among others, the Terminal Services (for win2k TS servers) -- the logins now take over 30 seconds (from 5 sec earlier). During TS sessions the TS freezes few times an hour for around 20-30 seconds at a time, making it unusable for some tasks and wasteful (of time and nerves) for the remaining ones.
Other patches and "upgrades", especially those for IE, have been degrading win98se performance and stability (such as annoying 1 minute freeze ups [WaitForMultipleObjects() that never occur] after deleting or copying 'large' number of files). I suppose that's one way to "help" customers decide on upgrading to XP -- just "accidentally" select the most incompetent programmers and QC to provide patches for earlier OS versions. It reminds me of the common tactic by insurance companies to staff the dumbest and the rudest on the refund/payment side of the business.
Indeed, how can they label Bush as a known weasel, thus indicating his "war on terrorism" is at least in great part a sham, and still bash the french?
That was a poll, not a single person opinion. Out of 35874 votes, 12739 picked France, 13959 picked Bush. As long as the sum for France plus Bush is below the total vote count, there is no contradiction.
Well, duh, but the only thing he's got supporting his position is a philosophical assumption (without evidence) that commercial servers are more secure than publicly owned ones.
In almost every domain where private enterprise and the state have overlapped functions/services, the private one is ahead in quality, choice and value. Be in public vs private schools, universities, TV programs, movies, web sites,...
"It's time to evolve that world so that we get the information that an attack is coming before it hits our front door." What the hell?!? So what do you have, 'notification' packets sent before the 'real' packets??
What our protectors have in mind when talking like that is a snooping infrastructure backed by anticipatory laws, so that a even a hint of suspicious activity is enough to (legally) "predict" a crime and put the predicted criminal away (into a real, not imagined, prison).
WiFi is limited to 80mW or less of power output.... although the distance normally provides some protection (inverse squares and all). And don't even ask about the output from a 20,000W AM radio station.
Well, using your figures of 80mW vs 20,000W, it follows that the ratio is 250,000 which, applying the distance square law for intensity, says that a Wi-Fi at distance of 1 foot is equivalent to AM radio station at 500 ft. If someone were to build a 20,000W AM station at 100-200 yards from a school there would be a huge outcry (it happened in my town, Lexington MA few years ago, with much lower power RF station).
Tell me what you mean by the world being non-deterministic.
It means that if a system is in the state S1 at the moment t1, then at a later time t2 it can be in multiple states S2,S2',S2",... i.e. the state evolution function is a multi-valued function (like square root of 4, which is +2 or -2).
> Assuming you're young enough to buy > into a theory calling government services "free."
Why assume that? Its free as in $0/year.
If you wish to call government bought computers and government paid employees "free" then it was "free." Otherwise, the current system simply makes the immediate beneficiary of the service pay for it instead of spreading the cost over all the taxpayers -- a more fair and less wasteful scheme.
The FUD surrounding the "user is gambling" anecdotes is amusing though. I can only remember them releasing one patch that was truly borked.
The recent SP4 upgrade for w2k has broken Terminal Services access for win9x clients -- their login is greatly slowed down and during the sessions, every few minutes the client goes into a non-responsive state for 30 seconds at a time (it looks as if something is timing out since the frozen state has regular duration). I suppose that's one way to induce customers to to buy the latest greatest offerings.
Another thing broken by SP4 was Soft-Ice. I had to back off on couple development systems to SP3. Media Player 9 also broke Soft-Ice on some of the machines (via directx incompatibility).
Also, the recent w2k upgrades have stacked up as many over 30 gratuitous Winsock 2 protocols (misc junk netbios backdoors, loopholes and performance drains) which you can see using WSAEnumProtocols(), as the sample dump below shows. Only the first are actually needed for full tcp/udp stacks. Deleting the rest manually via registry is a tedious and risky edit job through a huge tangle of cross-referenced, spread out far apart, gibberish, non-mnemonic keys. (That whole ensnaring labyrinth offers a glimpse into the "mind" of Microsoft.)
quantum computers, which according to a variation of Moore's law I might have been the first to state (at DEFCON 9 [dis.org]), will within a decade surpass then available classical computers and will (in theory) be exceptionally good at cracking encrypted documents.
There isn't yet (after three decades of futile attempts) a loophole free two photon Bell experiment to prove that the entangled pair distant state collapse exists at all. With the "loophole" (euphemism used by believers, meaning in plain language "it has never really happened") the QC is nothing but a fancy name for analog computing, say, like "computing" sin(t) by performing ultra-precise physical measurement of an amplitude of a harmonic oscillator as it varies with time t.
I'm sure if MS software was backdoor ridden, these would be found by blackhats VERY quickly, henceforth brought to public eye, and removed.
That's exactly what has been going on for the last ten years, replacing one backdoor with another. Before you advise me to check my tinfoil, you should look some history of Microsoft's business practices. Microsoft was caught once inserting a "bug" in Windows that would crash DR's CP/M (a Bill's memo revealed in a court case few years later showed that it was done purposefully). Also, recall that AOL was caught few years ago with a backdoor in their AIM disguised precisely as a stack overflow bug (they were stupid enough to leave some code in the distribution which worked together with the "bug"). With Microsoft's resources, they could put dozen Indians on every single buffer in their source and be done with these so-called stack overflow bugs in month. Instead, all they do is keep moving the bug from one buffer to another, which gives them few months of functioning backdoor ahead of the black hats.
Another benefit of the scheme is that it keeps customers dependent, coming back for "fixes" (so MS can track your software use and check legality of your Windows, or whatever else they or the bureaucrats are interested in).
You don't know whether there is a second layer of protection which will, say, wipe out your hard disk a month from now, if you tamper with their first layer. With regular customer, the punishment is just the cost of new windows. With hacker, it is the whole hard disk or worse (e.g. they could leave a backdoor and watch what you're doing and what you got on your machine from now on, although they likely have a few already).
Not sure how reliable are they. They could uproot a tree, you know...
The Freeman peddles the same upside-down "logic" as Gates -- the offshoring is due to the lack of US programmers, so we need to educate more kids here. Yeah, so they can flip hamburgers the rest of their life, while waiting for a job in their professions.
The recent flood of similar articles, all playing to the $ame drummer, blaming the US workers and students means that shortly there will be more extensions, higher limits and more tax breaks for the importation of foreign 'experts' (to be trained by the US 'nonexperts' they are brought to replace) and offshoring. Whenever you see this kind of orchestrated yapping from the regime hacks, you should watch the Congress and hold onto your wallet. It's the same thieves, rigging the system again for the next squeeze on the US programmers and engineers.
If you dont trust the website, ...You sound paranoid.
You don't know who may have access to that server database in the future (e.g. a hacker, police, FBI, IRS, your boss, your spuse, your competitor,...) and how they might use the information on the pages you visited there. For example, you may have bought some textbook from Amazon. But you may have also looked or searched for items you don't wish to become public, so you don't want the second search to be associated with your name via the cookie.
Even more importantly, you may not want to leave traces on your machine on what site/page you visited and when. The cookie is a form of history and anyone with access to your computer (e.g. someone suing you, or investigating something, or even your kid or your spuse etc.) can examine your browsing history from the cookies.
Maintaining browsing privacy is no more paranoid than shutting the door on the public restroom while you're using it, even if you are not doing anything illegal or immoral in the restroom.
This "feature" isn't so much about locking you into MS Windows. It is not even about preventing piracy (even though this aspect helps bring in allies among commercial software & content vendors).
The false opposition and noise raised on these two aspects serve to distract from the real problem, which is that governments need this "feature" to help them track all your internet activity and ID any documents and programs created or passing through your machine. Combined with computer sales slips and credit card info, anything that leaves your computer can be tracked back to you.
The red herring strategy of generating noise on lesser problems with this scheme is similar to that of cell phone industry making (behind the scenes) or amplifying the noise about annoyance from cell phone users in theaters and such, or even about dangers from talking and driving. The purpose is to drown voices talking about danger they really worry about -- the flood of brain tumors and senility coming down in few years (many teens chat on cell phones every day for hours).
Although one can disable or fake TCP timestamps (with a kernel level code), the timestamping and fingerprinting implemented via the scripts or Java applets would be much harder to block. An applet using various system facilities (e.g. screen) would produce time-profile fingerprint sensitive not just to hardware speed but to video card, video mode, Java and browser VM. Of course, the police, FBI, courts... can get your ID by just asking your ISP.
Are these people actually trying to say that occasional cell phone use puts out more radiation than that new 3.2 GHz Pentium
Radiation intensity is inversly proportional to the square of distance from the source. If your Pentium is 30 times farther from your brain than your cell phone, your brain is getting around 1000 times smaller proportion of the Pentium's radiation than that of the cell phone.
(I wonder if any physics is being taught at schools any more? Or would that put too much pressure on the self-esteem of the little ones.)
He said AOL is choosing which sites to block based on complaints from its members, who can report spam that they receive to the company.
This looks like a handy cover for AOL to block anything it deems not PeeTsee enough.
You missed the main "equalization" -- the standards of living. Our "leaders" (of either wing of the ruling party) have sold us out. All this terrorism hysteria is being whipped up to help build a police state to protect the thieves when it hits the fan. The way they're hurrying it up last few years, suggests it won't be long.
However, the consumers will end up paying for the wiretapping regadless, whether the ISP's are forced to do the upgrade themselves, or if the FBI funds since the FBI is funded with everyone American's dollars.
Yes, but if government pays, the cost is distributed much wider than if your ISP pays (where you pay much larger share). If the 260 million want to enjoy the "benefits" of the FBI's snooping into my computer, then 260 million ought to pay for it, not just me and my ISP.
How about going after the people who own the links in the body of the spam?
You are starting with a heretical premise that government, or rather, the large corporations which pull the strings, have the same objective as the end user (the end of spam). Of course, it could be stopped (by cracking down hard on those contracting the spammers). But it is much more useful for them if the "war on spam" goes on and on, while the measures with side-effects (on your wallet, your freedom and your privacy) are gradually introduced to "combat" the spam. Just recall other such "wars" such as "war on drugs" or "war on poverty/racism" or "war on smoking" or "war on guns" or the most recent "war on terrorism". This is an ancient recipe of control and enslavement, perfected by churches and priesthoods over millenia (war on sin/devil, war on death), merely translated into modern jargon and current circumstances.
So it is ok for a "Central Bank" to use private PC resources (RAM, CPU, printers) which don't belong to them for their own purposes and benefits, without asking or even without letting the owners know.
Furthermore, since the "currency detection" module is a black box even to the software & printer manufacturers distributing it, what else the "Central Bank" might have included, or may include later, into the distributed modules? What other kind of detection? Is there a network backdoor built in? Or identifying signature being attached to programs you compile or documents you save, or browser cookies or code? When someone secretly sneaks a spyware/monitoring module into my computer, it reveals a kind ruthless mindset ready for more of the same, at least.
Well, of course, they will further break win2k (to say nothing of 9x) -- they still need to bring it down to a completely unusable level (as the IE 6 did for win98; SP4 already did lots of damage to win2k). How else could they corral everyone into their latest DRM infested crippleware / moronware (the XP). They ain't the biggest for nothing.
Coffe, alcohol, butter, sex... can smoking be far behind?
Let's just say that I approached Service Pack 4 with a great deal of apprehension.
SP4 broke, among others, the Terminal Services (for win2k TS servers) -- the logins now take over 30 seconds (from 5 sec earlier). During TS sessions the TS freezes few times an hour for around 20-30 seconds at a time, making it unusable for some tasks and wasteful (of time and nerves) for the remaining ones.
Other patches and "upgrades", especially those for IE, have been degrading win98se performance and stability (such as annoying 1 minute freeze ups [WaitForMultipleObjects() that never occur] after deleting or copying 'large' number of files). I suppose that's one way to "help" customers decide on upgrading to XP -- just "accidentally" select the most incompetent programmers and QC to provide patches for earlier OS versions. It reminds me of the common tactic by insurance companies to staff the dumbest and the rudest on the refund/payment side of the business.
Indeed, how can they label Bush as a known weasel, thus indicating his "war on terrorism" is at least in great part a sham, and still bash the french?
That was a poll, not a single person opinion. Out of 35874 votes, 12739 picked France, 13959 picked Bush. As long as the sum for France plus Bush is below the total vote count, there is no contradiction.
Well, duh, but the only thing he's got supporting his position is a philosophical assumption (without evidence) that commercial servers are more secure than publicly owned ones.
In almost every domain where private enterprise and the state have overlapped functions/services, the private one is ahead in quality, choice and value. Be in public vs private schools, universities, TV programs, movies, web sites,...
"It's time to evolve that world so that we get the information that an attack is coming before it hits our front door."
What the hell?!? So what do you have, 'notification' packets sent before the 'real' packets??
What our protectors have in mind when talking like that is a snooping infrastructure backed by anticipatory laws, so that a even a hint of suspicious activity is enough to (legally) "predict" a crime and put the predicted criminal away (into a real, not imagined, prison).
Well, using your figures of 80mW vs 20,000W, it follows that the ratio is 250,000 which, applying the distance square law for intensity, says that a Wi-Fi at distance of 1 foot is equivalent to AM radio station at 500 ft. If someone were to build a 20,000W AM station at 100-200 yards from a school there would be a huge outcry (it happened in my town, Lexington MA few years ago, with much lower power RF station).
It means that if a system is in the state S1 at the moment t1, then at a later time t2 it can be in multiple states S2,S2',S2",... i.e. the state evolution function is a multi-valued function (like square root of 4, which is +2 or -2).
> into a theory calling government services "free."
Why assume that?
Its free as in $0
If you wish to call government bought computers and government paid employees "free" then it was "free." Otherwise, the current system simply makes the immediate beneficiary of the service pay for it instead of spreading the cost over all the taxpayers -- a more fair and less wasteful scheme.
Assuming you're young enough to buy into a theory calling government services "free."
The recent SP4 upgrade for w2k has broken Terminal Services access for win9x clients -- their login is greatly slowed down and during the sessions, every few minutes the client goes into a non-responsive state for 30 seconds at a time (it looks as if something is timing out since the frozen state has regular duration). I suppose that's one way to induce customers to to buy the latest greatest offerings.
Another thing broken by SP4 was Soft-Ice. I had to back off on couple development systems to SP3. Media Player 9 also broke Soft-Ice on some of the machines (via directx incompatibility).
Also, the recent w2k upgrades have stacked up as many over 30 gratuitous Winsock 2 protocols (misc junk netbios backdoors, loopholes and performance drains) which you can see using WSAEnumProtocols(), as the sample dump below shows. Only the first are actually needed for full tcp/udp stacks. Deleting the rest manually via registry is a tedious and risky edit job through a huge tangle of cross-referenced, spread out far apart, gibberish, non-mnemonic keys. (That whole ensnaring labyrinth offers a glimpse into the "mind" of Microsoft.)
[WinSock 2.0] [Running] Ver=0202 Hi=0202 MaxSock=0 MaxUDP=65507 (0)
----- Number of protocols=34 (BufLen=65216)
0) F1=20066 PrF=08 PrID=E70F1AA0 CID=3E9 Ver=2 AF=2 MinA=16 MaxA=16 STyp=1
PROT=6 MaxOfs=0 #PCH=1 NBO=0 SS=0 MsgSz=0 Prot=[MSAFD Tcpip [TCP/IP]]
1) F1=20609 PrF=08 PrID=E70F1AA0 CID=3EA Ver=2 AF=2 MinA=16 MaxA=16 STyp=2
PROT=17 MaxOfs=0 #PCH=1 NBO=0 SS=0 MsgSz=FFBB Prot=[MSAFD Tcpip [UDP/IP]]
2) F1=22609 PrF=08 PrID=9D60A9E0 CID=3EC Ver=4 AF=2 MinA=16 MaxA=16 STyp=2
PROT=17 MaxOfs=0 #PCH=1 NBO=0 SS=0 MsgSz=FFBB Prot=[RSVP UDP Service Provider]
3) F1=22066 PrF=08 PrID=9D60A9E0 CID=3ED Ver=4 AF=2 MinA=16 MaxA=16 STyp=1
PROT=6 MaxOfs=0 #PCH=1 NBO=0 SS=0 MsgSz=0 Prot=[RSVP TCP Service Provider]
4) F1=2000E PrF=00 PrID=8D5F1830 CID=48A Ver=2 AF=11 MinA=20 MaxA=20 STyp=5
PROT=-4 MaxOfs=0 #PCH=1 NBO=0 SS=0 MsgSz=FA00 Prot=[MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\Nbf_{6A1EF529-5F57-4D4F-ACA9-8AF
64C2184 E6}] SEQPACKET 4]
5) F1=20209 PrF=00 PrID=8D5F1830 CID=48B Ver=2 AF=11 MinA=20 MaxA=20 STyp=2
PROT=-4 MaxOfs=0 #PCH=1 NBO=0 SS=0 MsgSz=FA00 Prot=[MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\Nbf_{6A1EF529-5F57-4D4F-ACA9-8AF
64C2184 E6}] DATAGRAM 4]
6) F1=2000E PrF=00 PrID=8D5F1830 CID=48C Ver=2 AF=11 MinA=20 MaxA=20 STyp=5
PROT=-5 MaxOfs=0 #PCH=1 NBO=0 SS=0 MsgSz=FA00 Prot=[MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\Nbf_{CAA5FE56-76F0-4790-8F74-7F0
E935BCD C1}] SEQPACKET 5]
7) F1=20209 PrF=00 PrID=8D5F1830 CID=48D Ver=2 AF=11 MinA=20 MaxA=20 STyp=2
PROT=-5 MaxOfs=0 #PCH=1 NBO=0 SS=0 MsgSz=FA00 Prot=[MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\Nbf_{CAA5FE56-76F0-4790-8F74-7F0
E935BCD C1}] DATAGRAM 5]
8) F1=2000E PrF=00 PrID=8D5F1830 CID=48E Ver=2 AF=11 MinA=20 MaxA=20 STyp=5
PROT=-6 MaxOfs=0 #PCH=1 NBO=0 SS=0 MsgSz=FA00 Prot=[MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\Nbf_NdisWanNbfIn{360CB71D-E75A-4
AC1-9B8 7-97253DA8E0B6}] SEQPACKET 6]
9) F1=20209 PrF=00 PrID=8D5F1830 CID=48F Ver=2 AF=11 MinA=20 MaxA=20 STyp=2
PROT=-6 MaxOfs=0 #PCH=1 NBO=0 SS=0 MsgSz=FA00 Prot=[MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\Nbf_NdisWanNbfIn{360CB71D-E75A-4
AC1-9B8 7-97253DA8E0B6}] DATAGRAM 6]
10) F1=2000E PrF=00 PrID=8D5F1830 CID=490 Ver=2 AF=11 MinA=20 MaxA=20 STyp=5
PROT=-7 MaxOfs=0 #PCH=1 NBO=0 SS=0 MsgSz=FA00 Prot=[MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\Nbf_NdisWanNbfIn{7E5822E4-F789-4
FDA-870 2-D228ED44B95D}] SEQPACKET 7]
11) F1=20209 PrF=00 PrID=8D5F1830 CID=491 Ver=2 AF=11 MinA=20 MaxA=20 STyp=2
There isn't yet (after three decades of futile attempts) a loophole free two photon Bell experiment to prove that the entangled pair distant state collapse exists at all. With the "loophole" (euphemism used by believers, meaning in plain language "it has never really happened") the QC is nothing but a fancy name for analog computing, say, like "computing" sin(t) by performing ultra-precise physical measurement of an amplitude of a harmonic oscillator as it varies with time t.