How does US laws apply in a foreign country on foreign citizens?
that is exactly what I was saying.
From their point of view, they were defending themselves. yes. The US armed forces, from their point of view, were pursuing terrorist suspects and were attacked wile doing so.
so it's all in your perspective.
as for the armed robber case, yes, you would be defending yourself. But if you were in England, you would be arrested if you shot him. Depending on what state you were in in the US, you could face other legal problems depending on how you handled the break-in.
while one would hope that americans would hold the high ground and apply a higher standard, where in our constitution or body of laws does it say that we will do same? Or where does it say that the bill of rights applies to foreign citizens captured on foreign soil while they were in the act of attacking US military forces??
A mob of lunatics rampaging through the streets burning cars, smashing in windows and robbing houses or even one just throwing rocks, firecrackers or bottles at a line of police isn't "exercising freedom". I read this as "or even just a mob that's throwing rocks...." not one person throwing rocks.
wow... sounds like american actors and musicans who jumped on the protest bandwagon with out really reading up on why they are protesting. (note: this is not an endorecement or condemnment of those protesters cause. I just think it's silly to protest "just because")
Notice that somewhere up the thread the phrase was "armed and trained"
If you were used to seeing people armed, someone drawing a weapon might just be moving it for comfort. A trained person wouldn't fire on someone for drawing a gun.
last I checked, you could still not provide your ID when you checked in, you just had to prove to the airline that you were you, and submit to a more thorough security screening (bag search and wanding).
And then there's the bit about the planes being owned by business that aren't the government and don't have to let you fly on their planes.
I'm thinking about putting together a small security force and contracting to these guys for on-ship and near-ship security. Just think of the fun toys they'd be able to mount on their ship.
post a few snipers on the higher parts of the ship. While motion would make hitting the targets difficult at a distance, snipers have the experience to spot distant threats. mount M2's about the ship to protect against pirates (yes, there are pirates) even though the CG would come when you called, who wants to depend on the US govt for your safety?
A few thousand rounds each month for training purposes... that's plenty of fun on it's own.
if you kill me on property that you own, it's still a criminal penalty.
Not after I explain to the judge how you were on my property trying to kill or seriously injure me or my family. The legal use of deadly force is pretty well defined in texas. It's always referred to as "deadly force" in the penal codes, so that could probably be extended to a vehicle, though it would be shakey. Certainly if you're on my property, banging on my front door with a shotgun in your hands, and I shoot you through the front door, the grand jury would no-bill me. (at least in my county in Texas)
at least you're posting in the troll thread. Because if I could moderate here, it would be either troll, or funny. (probably funny since you appropriately smiley faced it)
but on a more serious note, it's worth mentioning that the quality, readability and re-usability of the code has very little to do with what language it was written in, and much more to do with the bad or good habits of the auther of that code.
which is exactly why I say that "the inability to be flexible with the use of that whitespace bugs me."
and as for 80char wide tty displays, all but one of my xterms is 80char wide. (out of 14 open at the moment) And while I'll admit that an xterm is morefunctional a display than a VT52, or whatever ASCII head you have on your serial port, there's not much I'd do on the xterm that I couldn't do on the console besides cut & paste .
has anyone written a module that will allow the use of braces rather than whitespace for code-block separation?
If anyone does that, then a lot of the reasons for bitching about python go away. (my reasons at least)
and I am NOT trying to start a python vs <insert language here> war. Just wondering if it's been done yet.
aside from the braces/whitespace issue, the fact that the debugger is an external module and can be problematic, I really like python. (well, it's been a few years since I used it, but it was nice then)
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Both are nice, but I prefer MacAllen 18, or Lagavulin 16
I'm suprised that the gift suggestion list doesn't have any alcoholic beverages listed.
additions:
Beer (good stuff, not colored water)
Scotch (that's single malt, not something you'd mix, and older than 12years please)
How does US laws apply in a foreign country on foreign citizens?
that is exactly what I was saying.
From their point of view, they were defending themselves. yes. The US armed forces, from their point of view, were pursuing terrorist suspects and were attacked wile doing so.
so it's all in your perspective.
as for the armed robber case, yes, you would be defending yourself. But if you were in England, you would be arrested if you shot him. Depending on what state you were in in the US, you could face other legal problems depending on how you handled the break-in.
while one would hope that americans would hold the high ground and apply a higher standard, where in our constitution or body of laws does it say that we will do same? Or where does it say that the bill of rights applies to foreign citizens captured on foreign soil while they were in the act of attacking US military forces??
A mob of lunatics rampaging through the streets burning cars, smashing in windows and robbing houses or even one just throwing rocks, firecrackers or bottles at a line of police isn't "exercising freedom".
I read this as "or even just a mob that's throwing rocks...." not one person throwing rocks.
it's already available, just not on the web.
go get google earth plus, and when you login it has an option to check out mars.
I'd ask STR? but in this crowd, probably 80% of us have read that one.
TANSTAAFL!
how is it that usenet is a european invention?
Wikipedia says it was "developed at University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill and Duke University"
maybe that's because the US isn't a democracy.... It's a democratic republic.
true, and this wasn't done on a bet.
isn't this like Scientology?
you'd think the million robot march would have had 1,048,576 robots, not 1,000,000
wow... sounds like american actors and musicans who jumped on the protest bandwagon with out really reading up on why they are protesting. (note: this is not an endorecement or condemnment of those protesters cause. I just think it's silly to protest "just because")
Notice that somewhere up the thread the phrase was "armed and trained"
If you were used to seeing people armed, someone drawing a weapon might just be moving it for comfort. A trained person wouldn't fire on someone for drawing a gun.
last I checked, you could still not provide your ID when you checked in, you just had to prove to the airline that you were you, and submit to a more thorough security screening (bag search and wanding).
And then there's the bit about the planes being owned by business that aren't the government and don't have to let you fly on their planes.
looked to me like someone left a '.' off the end of a line after editing a bind config.
www.google.com which is usually a CNAME to www.l.google.com. was temporarially a CNAME to www.l.google.com.l.google.com.
go figure
I'm thinking about putting together a small security force and contracting to these guys for on-ship and near-ship security. Just think of the fun toys they'd be able to mount on their ship.
post a few snipers on the higher parts of the ship. While motion would make hitting the targets difficult at a distance, snipers have the experience to spot distant threats. mount M2's about the ship to protect against pirates (yes, there are pirates) even though the CG would come when you called, who wants to depend on the US govt for your safety?
A few thousand rounds each month for training purposes... that's plenty of fun on it's own.
Not after I explain to the judge how you were on my property trying to kill or seriously injure me or my family. The legal use of deadly force is pretty well defined in texas. It's always referred to as "deadly force" in the penal codes, so that could probably be extended to a vehicle, though it would be shakey. Certainly if you're on my property, banging on my front door with a shotgun in your hands, and I shoot you through the front door, the grand jury would no-bill me. (at least in my county in Texas)
and you can read that python???
so much for "it's impossible to write unreadable python"
but isn't vi better than emacs??
<duck>
and certainly has nothing to do with the ability of the author to spell :P
at least you're posting in the troll thread. Because if I could moderate here, it would be either troll, or funny. (probably funny since you appropriately smiley faced it)
but on a more serious note, it's worth mentioning that the quality, readability and re-usability of the code has very little to do with what language it was written in, and much more to do with the bad or good habits of the auther of that code.
which is exactly why I say that "the inability to be flexible with the use of that whitespace bugs me."
and as for 80char wide tty displays, all but one of my xterms is 80char wide. (out of 14 open at the moment) And while I'll admit that an xterm is morefunctional a display than a VT52, or whatever ASCII head you have on your serial port, there's not much I'd do on the xterm that I couldn't do on the console besides cut & paste .
whitespace, when used correctly, makes code readable. However, having the inability to be flexible with the use of that whitespace bugs me.
coding standards make good code, not a language. I can write bad python just as easially as I can write good perl.
has anyone written a module that will allow the use of braces rather than whitespace for code-block separation?
If anyone does that, then a lot of the reasons for bitching about python go away. (my reasons at least)
and I am NOT trying to start a python vs <insert language here> war. Just wondering if it's been done yet.
aside from the braces/whitespace issue, the fact that the debugger is an external module and can be problematic, I really like python. (well, it's been a few years since I used it, but it was nice then)