...because consistent, reliable support is what Microsoft is known for.
Sure thing!
"Thank you for calling Microsoft support center at XXXX, we'll charge US$245 per technical question, three questions minimum....
"Wait a minute....that's $735 per call?!"
"Correct."
"Isn't it outrageous?!"
"It is. What is your third question?"
Your client will already own the code, so they can give it to whomever they want. Why would it be in their interest to obligate themselves to give it to any more people than absolutely necessary?
If he's intented to release the source code without client's acknowledgement, then he's obviously trying to con the customers.:)
I'm sure he's talking about the case when he used opensource, some license like GPL would require him to release the source code. He might have misunderstood GPL in a sense that releasing of source code is not obligatory. In fact, as another poster said "With the GPL, he only has to give the source to anyone to whom he supplies the binaries."
a long-awaited privacy bill Wednesday that would allow U.S. businesses to share information about customers who have not explicitly forbidden them to do so.
It's long-awaited? You americans are difficult to understand....
I found that those people who have strong opinions on one side would find my.sig stupid, that's very interesting. I'm not going to humiliate you, because I do feel this statement stupid - sadly. I put it here to remind myself not being surjective, but it doesn't work it seems.:)
Like the example you've quoted, I'd agree with you two years ago, but after what've happened in Israel....I'm no longer so emotionally attached to that kind of things anymore.
Btw, thank you for your comment. (p.s. the AC is not me)
Sweatshop practices is nothing worse than child Labor. I think no Amendment could save their arse out of this.
I wonder if/. editors ever read newspaper at all, otherwise they'd not make this story a big deal, compare with other alleged crimes Nike was accused to have committed.
Thank you for your comment. My work includes UNIX/Linux admin, Oracle DBA and Java developing, but I've never thought of getting a certification on any of above. May be it's time to get a MCSE just to make the idiots feel comfortable.
The fact that everything down there is confidential unless otherwise specified, therefore people work there like to use the phase 'this is confidential'. His intention is to impress the audience, because if my bosses ignore it, they might be facing big big trouble.
It's not awful scurity stuffs as you can imagine, if you've worked with Government you know this phase is to use to scare old Government officers. It works.:D
Thank you for both of your comments, and that's exactly the points we were fighting at.
First that MCSE argued whether Government is a single 'organization', then he pointed out that, like you said, other department might release the source code to the public, according to GPL.
I can't argue with the first point but I think if the first point holds, I don't need to distribute the source code within my own 'organization'. I can remain 'private use' of my work and distribute the binary only version among the same organization.
However, most important point is, even the other department can access to the source and binary, they shouldn't redistribute to public, no matter what license under it, according to the policy there. Yes this might be a conflict with GPL, and that's the major obstacle I faced.
I worked for a local Government, who were already brainwashed by Microsoft's sales. Here is the dialogs during a meeting debating with a MCSE whether we should use GPL's code:
Me: We could save money using this pieces of GPL code..
MCSE: Doesn't that make all the derived work GPL?
Me: Yes.
MCSE: Then we must release our source code to public! This is confidential!!
Me: No....we are only required to release the source code when the recipents has the binary. We wouldn't release our system to public...
MCSE: but according to GPL, the source code is open to all to read!(?) The other department could read it and might release them to public!
Me: You might have misunderstood the concept...according to GPL's FAQ we do not need to release the source code if we use them within an organization. A Government is one big organization, which is very suitable to adopt GPL....
MCSE: That's NOT I heard about GPL. I don't believe in what you said! GPL is about opensource and any dervied works must be made opensource, this is a very restrictive license and there's no way out!
and things went downhill from there. My boss trusted him because he has an MCSE.
I still ponder, what qualification in MCSE would make him know GPL better than others...
A microwave cooker uses a very high power magnetron (usually >500W), directed in a narrow, focused beam, into a resonant cavity (the oven itself) from a distance of around 6". Furthermore, the oven uses a specific frequency, much below which RF heating is much weaker, and you need a lot more power (somewhere around 2.45GHz).
Just curious, will the electromagnetic wave generated by my Pentium 2.4GHz blow my ass when I sit near it? I'm pretty worrying about it....
I'm sure there's some academic terms for these, but some people(idiots) like to simplify the calculation without making proper assumption.
They assumed that they must be doing something productive if they are not watching movies. Hell, they might spend more unproductive hours elsewhere.
Same ill-logic can be found everywhere. I saw in yeasterday's news the local custom confisticated piracy software which said to be causing 15 billions net lost of software industry. 15 billions! It's many times more than the total revuene made by all industries here!
It sounds like all people would buy a $5000 software if they couldn't find a $5 in piracy market. I know they should make it a big deal to attract public attention, but sadly some people(idiots) would believe these figures.:/
Yes. It collects megabytes of garbage in files with the extension ".DOC".
Some nice dudes wrote a garbage collector for Word. Open a.DOC file with it and re-save it, you'd be surprise how the original file shrunk without losing any content.:)
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...because consistent, reliable support is what Microsoft is known for.
Sure thing!
"Thank you for calling Microsoft support center at XXXX, we'll charge US$245 per technical question, three questions minimum....
"Wait a minute....that's $735 per call?!"
"Correct."
"Isn't it outrageous?!"
"It is. What is your third question?"
Your client will already own the code, so they can give it to whomever they want. Why would it be in their interest to obligate themselves to give it to any more people than absolutely necessary?
:)
If he's intented to release the source code without client's acknowledgement, then he's obviously trying to con the customers.
I'm sure he's talking about the case when he used opensource, some license like GPL would require him to release the source code. He might have misunderstood GPL in a sense that releasing of source code is not obligatory. In fact, as another poster said "With the GPL, he only has to give the source to anyone to whom he supplies the binaries."
a long-awaited privacy bill Wednesday that would allow U.S. businesses to share information about customers who have not explicitly forbidden them to do so.
It's long-awaited? You americans are difficult to understand....
I see nothing about open source anything.
:)
Eclipse, which is supported by IBM, derived from Websphere Studio Workbench, for Java development.
It's java-based application which can be running on many platforms including Linux.
You really need to click few more buttons, the link is near to where you download websphere.
"If the Linux kernel had been written for my Operating Systems class, it would have received an F."
:)
"F" for funding.
For more info.
I found that those people who have strong opinions on one side would find my .sig stupid, that's very interesting. I'm not going to humiliate you, because I do feel this statement stupid - sadly. I put it here to remind myself not being surjective, but it doesn't work it seems. :)
Like the example you've quoted, I'd agree with you two years ago, but after what've happened in Israel....I'm no longer so emotionally attached to that kind of things anymore.
Btw, thank you for your comment. (p.s. the AC is not me)
and don't miss the Matrix IPO - dot Matrix.
Wow, an article from the future! No wonder they call it "Time" magazine.
Our apology for the glitch in time continuity. It'll be fixed in next reboot and reload.
- Matrix
-Jet Li was going to be in both sequels but he backed out because they offered $3 mil and he wanted $13.
That's not gonna too be too much in RMB. WB is rather too cheap.
j/k
vote for lousy websites of the year this would be top ten
Obviously, Nike is not the only corp. being accused of sweatshop practices. I couldn't imagine if First Admendment could save their arse.
Sweatshop practices is nothing worse than child Labor. I think no Amendment could save their arse out of this.
/. editors ever read newspaper at all, otherwise they'd not make this story a big deal, compare with other alleged crimes Nike was accused to have committed.
I wonder if
That was my nickname in college.
Then you can claim prior art of the patent, but then you might have to show them your balls in the court.
Last time my office on small fire I rushed to the secretary and asked "show me the bottle that can put off the fire!!"
Now I'd be hestitate to ask "Show me the balls that can put off, oh baby, the fire in me..."
Thank you for your comment. My work includes UNIX/Linux admin, Oracle DBA and Java developing, but I've never thought of getting a certification on any of above. May be it's time to get a MCSE just to make the idiots feel comfortable.
:D
What a weird world we are living in, isn't it?
Thank you for your comment.
:D
The fact that everything down there is confidential unless otherwise specified, therefore people work there like to use the phase 'this is confidential'. His intention is to impress the audience, because if my bosses ignore it, they might be facing big big trouble.
It's not awful scurity stuffs as you can imagine, if you've worked with Government you know this phase is to use to scare old Government officers. It works.
Thank you for both of your comments, and that's exactly the points we were fighting at.
First that MCSE argued whether Government is a single 'organization', then he pointed out that, like you said, other department might release the source code to the public, according to GPL.
I can't argue with the first point but I think if the first point holds, I don't need to distribute the source code within my own 'organization'. I can remain 'private use' of my work and distribute the binary only version among the same organization.
However, most important point is, even the other department can access to the source and binary, they shouldn't redistribute to public, no matter what license under it, according to the policy there. Yes this might be a conflict with GPL, and that's the major obstacle I faced.
I worked for a local Government, who were already brainwashed by Microsoft's sales. Here is the dialogs during a meeting debating with a MCSE whether we should use GPL's code:
Me: We could save money using this pieces of GPL code..
MCSE: Doesn't that make all the derived work GPL?
Me: Yes.
MCSE: Then we must release our source code to public! This is confidential!!
Me: No....we are only required to release the source code when the recipents has the binary. We wouldn't release our system to public...
MCSE: but according to GPL, the source code is open to all to read!(?) The other department could read it and might release them to public!
Me: You might have misunderstood the concept...according to GPL's FAQ we do not need to release the source code if we use them within an organization. A Government is one big organization, which is very suitable to adopt GPL....
MCSE: That's NOT I heard about GPL. I don't believe in what you said! GPL is about opensource and any dervied works must be made opensource, this is a very restrictive license and there's no way out!
and things went downhill from there. My boss trusted him because he has an MCSE.
I still ponder, what qualification in MCSE would make him know GPL better than others...
here
A microwave cooker uses a very high power magnetron (usually >500W), directed in a narrow, focused beam, into a resonant cavity (the oven itself) from a distance of around 6". Furthermore, the oven uses a specific frequency, much below which RF heating is much weaker, and you need a lot more power (somewhere around 2.45GHz).
Just curious, will the electromagnetic wave generated by my Pentium 2.4GHz blow my ass when I sit near it? I'm pretty worrying about it....
There will be a tradesman class, so after work people can go home and exist in a fantasy world where they... work...
:)
If this pays, why not?
I'm sure there's some academic terms for these, but some people(idiots) like to simplify the calculation without making proper assumption.
:/
They assumed that they must be doing something productive if they are not watching movies. Hell, they might spend more unproductive hours elsewhere.
Same ill-logic can be found everywhere. I saw in yeasterday's news the local custom confisticated piracy software which said to be causing 15 billions net lost of software industry. 15 billions! It's many times more than the total revuene made by all industries here!
It sounds like all people would buy a $5000 software if they couldn't find a $5 in piracy market. I know they should make it a big deal to attract public attention, but sadly some people(idiots) would believe these figures.
Yes. It collects megabytes of garbage in files with the extension ".DOC".
.DOC file with it and re-save it, you'd be surprise how the original file shrunk without losing any content. :)
Some nice dudes wrote a garbage collector for Word. Open a
Take a 7200 rpm SCSI drive. Take a 7200 rpm IDE drive. Rip off the electronics.
You now have two identical drives.
Yes, if you are driving them on the road they must be in similar performance.
Oh wait...
"You gotta pay for having me wearing this." - McNealy