* Which course will perpetuate a cycle of violence and be used to justify further attacks? (Clue: look at the Balkans, Northern Ireland, Israel and Palestine.)
Well said.
To quote Randy Bush without permission:
Sky News:
Plane Crashes In New York
A plane has crashed into a residential area of New York.
It is understood the plane was an Airbus A300 and suffered engine failure shortly after taking off from JFK airport.
Reports say the aircraft may have been carrying up to 246 passengers when it plunged into homes in Queens.
The jet, thought to be flight 587, was heading to Santo Domingo in the Dominican Republic.
There are reports the plane hit a number of homes near Rockaway beach. One eyewitness said pieces of the plane were falling off mid-air and flames were seen on
"I saw a large piece hit a hood of a car," one women told Fox News.
"It seem to fold and fall onto a residential area," adding that she initially thought the plane was a Concorde.
F15 fighter jets are now in the skies of New York - the incident comes two months after the US terrorist attacks on the US. They were believed to be in the sky when the plane crashed.
Security chiefs said there was no evidence of terrorist activity but all airports in New York have now been closed as a precautionary measure. Bridges and tunnels have been closed The city has also been put on the highest state of alert.
A huge plume of smoke is rising above the New York skyline as the wreckage burns.
The Dow Jones dropped 200 points as news of the crash reached the markets.
Early reports said the plane was a Boeing 767 - the same type which crashed into the World Trade Centre.
More follows..
Last Modified: 15:20 UK, Monday November 12, 2001
The BBC in the UK is carrying live TV footage of F15s fighters flying very low over the area.
So, once again I'm back to listening to the TV news in the next room
and Slashdot. All news sites seem to be inaccessible - BBC, CNN,
Yahoo news...
Sky News is holding up though, as it did last time:
http://www.sky.com/skynews/home/
Sky says: "It is understood the plane suffered an engine
failure after takeoff." Doesn't sound like a terrorist attack
to me, more like a badly timed accident.
1993: I was lucky enough to have a friend who was into Linux and spent a lot of time arguing with me about how Free software could possibly work (what? written by amateurs, given away for free, and you say it's better than a Macintosh??)
1995: After various post-collegt Mcjobs, got a temp job paying GBP5 per hour converting Lotus 123 files into Excel, on Windows 3.1. These 123 files had macros, so I taught myself VBA from the manual and help files. In 96 we got web access - which made an enormous difference as I could search for software, help from othe users, etc. Got into Perl about this time (10 line sof Perl == five pages of VBA, and it's soooo much more elegant and powerful...)
1997-8: Brief spell at Logica, then joined Bain as the sole developer in teh London office. I twisted the specs and fought to do as much web-realted stuff as possible, which I could sneakily do in Perl on Apache rather than IIS/ASP, and no-one was any the wiser:) Also got into net admin stuff, learnt as much as poss about TCP/IP, DNS, routing...
About this time, installed Debian GNU/Linux on my shiny new PC. practice, practice. Save up for many O'Reilly books: read them, practice, test, experiment.
2000: On the basis of the Bain web dev and home experience, worked for a couple of dotcom startups: by the time the last one went bust in August I'd got tons of 10-hours-a-day Linux experience (get the hours in!), networking (DMZ design), lots of security experience hardening production servers, w/stations, IDS, pentesting etc. Still supposed to be spending 50% of my time developing websites...
Which brings us up to the present: I've got tons of experience and knowledge, but no MCSE / CCNA (UK employers don't seem to pay for formal training in my experience...) I really really really want a job in network security, or system/network admin, or even good old Perl web development... but the job market here (London, UK) is dead, I'm on the dole, and with my savings going fast I soon won't even be able to afford Net access.
In summary: practice, practice, practice; keep a career goal in mind when changing jobs - how will this position help me get where I want to be? Look out for any chance to get experience in your chosen field. Practice at home if you can. System admin involves knowing about a lot of different areas: networking in particular is a huge field. Look out for tasty free information on the web: there's an absolute ton of indispensible stuff out there. Don't/ONLY/ read O'Reilly's: I reckon about a 5:1 ratio of ORAs to 'other' publishers' books...
heh! I didn't think of that... but, just to compound the risk - I'm pretty confident my properly secured NT4 box can take the heat. No, really, I am! OK, admittedly, I'm running low on medication, but still...
It's a funny thing, I wget'ed (wgot?) that tutorial months ago... "Aha! At last a way to wile away the long gaps between new issues of TVGoHome - I'll teach myself orbital mechanics! And there it
sits, unread, along with everything else I
mirrored for offline reading... unread whilst I just check Slashdot one more time... (Those links probably won't work unless I'm online. Goddam these UK phone charges... )
I've been using Perl and Apache on NT4 since 98 with a grand total of no security problems (or indeed any other problems) at all. As soon as I was fired from Bain & Co, partly for using Perl and Apache, they switched back to the approved corporate standard of ASP/IIS, with predictable results - frequent downtime, ASP crashes killing the server, flakey database connectivity etc etc.
Since then I've used a ton of Open Source and Free software on NT. I've played around with Sendmail, BIND (as a cacheing only local nameserver), MySQL, Ruby, Python, XFree86 (with windowmaker, which confused the hell out of my local Linux zealot friend;) even tcl... I use emacs and the cygwin bash + other apps ports (ssh, GPG, all the time. It all absolutely rocks, and best of all it's got me familiar enough with the basics of developing on and using a *nix system that I've been able to swap onto Linux, Solaris and openBSD with a minimal speedbump, allowing me to concentrate on learning the interesting bits of Unixland (system stuff, IP tables, NAT, IDS and a ton of security software that still isn't available on NT. Although (shhh!) nmap now compiles out of the box... netcat runs,too...)
In short, if you're on windows but interested in checking out Freedom, these ports make a nice comfy way to get familiar with the other universe. Most of it is also far superior (more secure, more stable, more flexible and powerful) than the point-and-click Microsoft provided tools.
The one thing I need now is the strength to have another bash at getting Mutt or Pine working. I love mozilla and use mail & news for everything now, but I'd still like the cheap geek thrills of a non-gui scriptable CLI mail client. Then I can get cron mailing me home-rolled tripwire-like security checks daily...
RThe way things are going, I'm surprised anyone is looking at moving tech activity INTO the USA. It has to be one of the most hostile legal environments in the world in which to engage in such activities, apart North Korea or China perhaps. Actually, China doesn't have a law stating that all network operators have to store all "routing and addressing information" (RIP and BGP updates, HTTP URL requests, SMTP headers... everything), in perpetuity, in case law enforcement needs it "one day". Personally I'd already decided against visiting a friend in Hawaii: after Sklyarov, it's just too dangerous. Is anyone organising an official boycott?
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they installed millions of cameras in england to catch terrorist, thy didn't catch one using them! Not one, in what, 7 years?
NOT TRUE, they've caught loads - in particular
*this*
creep who planted a nailbomb in a Saturday street market full of women and
children. (I heard the thing go off, which is an interesting experience I
wouldn't recommend to anyone.) Here are the
BBC stories on the case; and here's
a good story about people caught by CCTV in the UK.
Then we will have an onslaught of mask wearing in public streets, and disguises will become common.
Dont know if this is any coincidence or what. In south london (where I live), since all the CCTV camera's have been deployed, a new fashion has started to emerge. Young, male, 'hood-looking types have started wearing baseball caps and hooded tops - at the same time - in such a way that their face is pretty much obscured.
Hi there, I'm the AC with the junkie friend, I already posted somewhere in this
story, (& I'm in S London as it goes.) The friend pointed the caps and hoods out
to me once when I went down with her to ride shotgun when she scored.
She also mentioned that all her regular dealers have disappeared in
the last few weeks... their mates all say "yeah, he's alright, he's...
'in the country' at the moment." ie., they've been nicked! It doesn't matter
if they can't see the faces, all they have to do is have plainclothes people
follow "anonymous hooded dodgy type" for a few days, then jump on them with
20 cops and lo! they have a mouthful of crack, and lo! their board and
lodging are covered by Her Majesty for the next few years. Poor bastards.
An important point I haven't seen anyone else mention: of course,
there's no way that ubiquitous CCTV or even 100% accurate biometrics
would have helped on the 11/9/01. (Bear in mind I'm generally IN
FAVOUR of CCTV in public places, as long as there are appropriate
checks and balances.) The terrorists were mostly unknown, with
clean records. CCTV/has/ helped in forensics: cf the released
pics of Mr Atta in his local Walmart the night before (buying
more booze presumably, like a good Muslim would do - uh - wait
a sec?!). There are also pics from cams in ATM machines.
The really scary thing about the September attacks is that there
is basically NOTHING YOU CAN DO about someone who is absolutely
determined, has a clean record, and is prepared to lose his* life.
Sure, you can make it harder to hijack planes; but if they make
it into the cockpit and disable the flight crew it's game over.
Even if they get shot down, it's still a 'victory' for the
terrorists, because of the few hundred innocent victims on the
plane. This is somewhat analogous to the terrible lesson learned
by the US in Vietnam, and by the UK in India, Palestine, Ireland,
Malaysia, Kenya and indeed many other bits of the world that used
to be coloured red: you cannot win a military victory against
a determined guerilla army which has mass support from the population.
[* You'd never catch a woman stupid enough to fall for fairy stories
about paradise... ]
I reckon this partly explains why it's taking such a long time for
bombs to start hitting Afghanistan: there seems to be a strong body
of opinion in the FBI that there are other unknown sleeper agents
already in the US, just waiting for the first attack to retaliate,
either on US soil, US interests overseas, or the loyal friends
of the USA here in the UK. I'm really glad I don't work right next
to the NatWest Tower in the city any more...
I have no problems with them taping me walking home but if they want to see inside my house or tape what I say to friends then that's a different matter
Yes, if they want to do that they'll have to get a warrant - after that they can bug and burgle and crack whatever the hell they like.
Sounds like Mark Thomas, of
Mark Thomas Comedy Product" TV show
.
The man's a genius... he also walked into Menwith Hill (part of the UKUSA ECHELON listening post network) and asked them what they were doing, etc etc. Very very very cool guy indeed, and currently touring the UK, fact fans!
The article is attacking a strawman in face recognition: as the Bruce S pointed out in the latest CryptoGram,
it's snakeoil.
Here's another good Register piece about how useless face recognition s/w is. Yet more evidence of using hi tech as a security blanket, rather than thinking clearly about the problem.
I know someone running a project to CCTV up my local area (Brixton, South London; famous for street dealing in crack and smack, as well as some of the city's best nightclubs.) She works for the local council & liases with the police.
Instead of keeping terrorists off planes, biometric surveillance is being used to keep punks out of shopping malls
No, it ISN'T.
And, contrary to what the report says, MANY terrorists have been caught using CCTV: most recently, the loony rascist who planted a nailbomb in my local market street was caught using CCTV images. PLenty of IRA bombers have been caught in similar ways.
This is not to say that the potential for abuse isn't there, or that there won't be some test cases before things are bedded down; and it behoves us to be *cough* vigilant about abuses of the system.
But really, Americans should worry more about your right to avoid having to mop your children's brains off the floor because they had a bad attack of the teenage blues and decided to end it all. What's more, even in this hotbed of class A drug dealing, there are still less than 400 murders in the entire COUNTRY per YEAR. (Population 65 million.) Personally, I'm just happy that I can walk around Brixton at 3am without worrying that I'm going to be shot.
As is widely known (and apparently accepted), corporations buy off legislators in the USA through 'campaign contributions' or 'soft money' or various other apparently legal means. There are also many commercial firms of "lobbyists", who are openly making money from influencing law making.
(I must admit that I am unsure of the detail of how this works, whether cash is involved, or of it's legality.)
It seems to me that this is simply organised corruption. We see the results every day in the DMCA and similar broken laws. In your opinion, is this really democracy? At what point should a nominally democratic system be seen as a facade?
(DISCLAIMER: I am a defendant in the California deCSS case.)
"While client market share for Windows is undisputed, Apache has close to
60% of the web server market. I haven't received a single readme.exe
attachment.
What I find most astonishing is that so far there's no discernable
sign of a move away from IIS at all in the Netcraft numbers. They
explain that a couple of major colo hosters have switched thousands of
virtual hosts, which results in the last couple of month's big losses
for Apache at IIS' expense. But if Code Red and Nimda don't make the PHBs
reconsider using IIS, what on earth WILL?
If this is the equivalent of Pearl Harbour, does that mean that the President knew it was going to happen and allowed it to happen because it would serve strategic aims (ie, getting the US into WW2)?
I'm not saything that this DID happen, but I know there's a school of thought amongst some historians that it did. Anyone know the details / back it up / knock it down?
I think you're spot on: whether the motivations are benevolent or not, the TLAs and their associated law-passers are unlikely to miss the opportunity to ratchet the freedom of crypto down, and surveillance up. This, of course, is not inconsistent with the theory that they might be doing this for entirely good reasons...
One for the conspiracy theorists out there: the comparison I keep hearing is Pearl Harbour. Isn't there a sizable school of thought & some evidence that some portion of the US Govt in 1941 knew that something was going to happen, and deliberately held off doing anything (a) to avoid giving away that they had the intelligence, and (b) to allow the US to be sucked straight into the war they'd spent the previous 20 years trying NOT to get involved with?
Slashdot Mirror
Well said. To quote Randy Bush without permission:
Resist the cycle of violence and hate.
The BBC in the UK is carrying live TV footage of F15s fighters flying very low over the area.
Sky News is holding up though, as it did last time:
http://www.sky.com/skynews/home/
Sky says: "It is understood the plane suffered an engine failure after takeoff." Doesn't sound like a terrorist attack to me, more like a badly timed accident.
1995: After various post-collegt Mcjobs, got a temp job paying GBP5 per hour converting Lotus 123 files into Excel, on Windows 3.1. These 123 files had macros, so I taught myself VBA from the manual and help files. In 96 we got web access - which made an enormous difference as I could search for software, help from othe users, etc. Got into Perl about this time (10 line sof Perl == five pages of VBA, and it's soooo much more elegant and powerful...)
1997-8: Brief spell at Logica, then joined Bain as the sole developer in teh London office. I twisted the specs and fought to do as much web-realted stuff as possible, which I could sneakily do in Perl on Apache rather than IIS/ASP, and no-one was any the wiser :) Also got into net admin stuff, learnt as much as poss about TCP/IP, DNS, routing...
About this time, installed Debian GNU/Linux on my shiny new PC. practice, practice. Save up for many O'Reilly books: read them, practice, test, experiment.
2000: On the basis of the Bain web dev and home experience, worked for a couple of dotcom startups: by the time the last one went bust in August I'd got tons of 10-hours-a-day Linux experience (get the hours in!), networking (DMZ design), lots of security experience hardening production servers, w/stations, IDS, pentesting etc. Still supposed to be spending 50% of my time developing websites...
Which brings us up to the present: I've got tons of experience and knowledge, but no MCSE / CCNA (UK employers don't seem to pay for formal training in my experience...) I really really really want a job in network security, or system/network admin, or even good old Perl web development... but the job market here (London, UK) is dead, I'm on the dole, and with my savings going fast I soon won't even be able to afford Net access.
In summary: practice, practice, practice; keep a career goal in mind when changing jobs - how will this position help me get where I want to be? Look out for any chance to get experience in your chosen field. Practice at home if you can. System admin involves knowing about a lot of different areas: networking in particular is a huge field. Look out for tasty free information on the web: there's an absolute ton of indispensible stuff out there. Don't /ONLY/ read O'Reilly's: I reckon about a 5:1 ratio of ORAs to 'other' publishers' books...
Good luck!
andrew@INEGO% tail -100 access_log |grep -v
192.168.0|awk '{print $1}'|sort|uniq
127.0.0.1
130.215.233.215
160.36.81.191
192.156.13.35
192.156.13.36
213.89.4.32
216.165.42.86
216.170.210.56
61.136.15.233
And anyway, skipt |1dd135?? On Slashdot??? Surely not...
heh! I didn't think of that... but, just to compound the risk - I'm pretty confident my properly secured NT4 box can take the heat. No, really, I am! OK, admittedly, I'm running low on medication, but still...
It's a funny thing, I wget'ed (wgot?) that tutorial months ago... "Aha! At last a way to wile away the long gaps between new issues of TVGoHome - I'll teach myself orbital mechanics! And there it sits, unread, along with everything else I mirrored for offline reading... unread whilst I just check Slashdot one more time... (Those links probably won't work unless I'm online. Goddam these UK phone charges... )
I could have sworn I was using Xamp on Linux two years ago. Or did I dream it?
Since then I've used a ton of Open Source and Free software on NT. I've played around with Sendmail, BIND (as a cacheing only local nameserver), MySQL, Ruby, Python, XFree86 (with windowmaker, which confused the hell out of my local Linux zealot friend ;) even tcl... I use emacs and the cygwin bash + other apps ports (ssh, GPG, all the time. It all absolutely rocks, and best of all it's got me familiar enough with the basics of developing on and using a *nix system that I've been able to swap onto Linux, Solaris and openBSD with a minimal speedbump, allowing me to concentrate on learning the interesting bits of Unixland (system stuff, IP tables, NAT, IDS and a ton of security software that still isn't available on NT. Although (shhh!) nmap now compiles out of the box... netcat runs,too...)
In short, if you're on windows but interested in checking out Freedom, these ports make a nice comfy way to get familiar with the other universe. Most of it is also far superior (more secure, more stable, more flexible and powerful) than the point-and-click Microsoft provided tools.
The one thing I need now is the strength to have another bash at getting Mutt or Pine working. I love mozilla and use mail & news for everything now, but I'd still like the cheap geek thrills of a non-gui scriptable CLI mail client. Then I can get cron mailing me home-rolled tripwire-like security checks daily...
RThe way things are going, I'm surprised anyone is looking at moving tech activity INTO the USA. It has to be one of the most hostile legal environments in the world in which to engage in such activities, apart North Korea or China perhaps. Actually, China doesn't have a law stating that all network operators have to store all "routing and addressing information" (RIP and BGP updates, HTTP URL requests, SMTP headers... everything), in perpetuity, in case law enforcement needs it "one day". Personally I'd already decided against visiting a friend in Hawaii: after Sklyarov, it's just too dangerous. Is anyone organising an official boycott?
Hi there, I'm the AC with the junkie friend, I already posted somewhere in this story, (& I'm in S London as it goes.) The friend pointed the caps and hoods out to me once when I went down with her to ride shotgun when she scored. She also mentioned that all her regular dealers have disappeared in the last few weeks... their mates all say "yeah, he's alright, he's... 'in the country' at the moment." ie., they've been nicked! It doesn't matter if they can't see the faces, all they have to do is have plainclothes people follow "anonymous hooded dodgy type" for a few days, then jump on them with 20 cops and lo! they have a mouthful of crack, and lo! their board and lodging are covered by Her Majesty for the next few years. Poor bastards.
The really scary thing about the September attacks is that there is basically NOTHING YOU CAN DO about someone who is absolutely determined, has a clean record, and is prepared to lose his* life. Sure, you can make it harder to hijack planes; but if they make it into the cockpit and disable the flight crew it's game over. Even if they get shot down, it's still a 'victory' for the terrorists, because of the few hundred innocent victims on the plane. This is somewhat analogous to the terrible lesson learned by the US in Vietnam, and by the UK in India, Palestine, Ireland, Malaysia, Kenya and indeed many other bits of the world that used to be coloured red: you cannot win a military victory against a determined guerilla army which has mass support from the population.
[* You'd never catch a woman stupid enough to fall for fairy stories about paradise... ] I reckon this partly explains why it's taking such a long time for bombs to start hitting Afghanistan: there seems to be a strong body of opinion in the FBI that there are other unknown sleeper agents already in the US, just waiting for the first attack to retaliate, either on US soil, US interests overseas, or the loyal friends of the USA here in the UK. I'm really glad I don't work right next to the NatWest Tower in the city any more...
Incidentally here's a similar article from Salon someone linked to from Slashdot a few months ago... rather amusing to a Brit, IIRC :)
And he's another Brixton resident :)
The article is attacking a strawman in face recognition: as the Bruce S pointed out in the latest CryptoGram, it's snakeoil. Here's another good Register piece about how useless face recognition s/w is. Yet more evidence of using hi tech as a security blanket, rather than thinking clearly about the problem.
And, contrary to what the report says, MANY terrorists have been caught using CCTV: most recently, the loony rascist who planted a nailbomb in my local market street was caught using CCTV images. PLenty of IRA bombers have been caught in similar ways.
This is not to say that the potential for abuse isn't there, or that there won't be some test cases before things are bedded down; and it behoves us to be *cough* vigilant about abuses of the system.
But really, Americans should worry more about your right to avoid having to mop your children's brains off the floor because they had a bad attack of the teenage blues and decided to end it all. What's more, even in this hotbed of class A drug dealing, there are still less than 400 murders in the entire COUNTRY per YEAR. (Population 65 million.) Personally, I'm just happy that I can walk around Brixton at 3am without worrying that I'm going to be shot.
It seems to me that this is simply organised corruption. We see the results every day in the DMCA and similar broken laws. In your opinion, is this really democracy? At what point should a nominally democratic system be seen as a facade?
(DISCLAIMER: I am a defendant in the California deCSS case.)
I nominate:
Actually, you're right. You're not a lawyer, or a copyright expert. And you can quote me on that.
What I find most astonishing is that so far there's no discernable sign of a move away from IIS at all in the Netcraft numbers. They explain that a couple of major colo hosters have switched thousands of virtual hosts, which results in the last couple of month's big losses for Apache at IIS' expense. But if Code Red and Nimda don't make the PHBs reconsider using IIS, what on earth WILL?
I'm not saything that this DID happen, but I know there's a school of thought amongst some historians that it did. Anyone know the details / back it up / knock it down?
One for the conspiracy theorists out there: the comparison I keep hearing is Pearl Harbour. Isn't there a sizable school of thought & some evidence that some portion of the US Govt in 1941 knew that something was going to happen, and deliberately held off doing anything (a) to avoid giving away that they had the intelligence, and (b) to allow the US to be sucked straight into the war they'd spent the previous 20 years trying NOT to get involved with?
please mod up parent