I don't want free music, I want cheaper recordable media! I'm not sure about this $0.77 per CD though - I'm sure i've bought CD's for $0.50 before on spindles.
You're right. I can get it for $0.30 per CD right now. Finding a 100 CD spindle for $30 is easy here in ontario. I have no idea where this $0.77 per CD thing came from.
It might also be good to point out that the current Canadian government recently passed a bill that prevents large donations to political parties from any source. After you get elected to a certain number of seats in the House of Commons, you recieve 'official party' status, and accually recieve governmental funding as such.
Accually, I doubt that. Its currently illegal to be sued for any pirated media you have at your home. Until you start selling that media, you're protected. Its accually in our bill of rights - something that is virtually impossible to alter.
Just think about someone trying to alter your constitution to remove the right to bare arms. Not likely, regardless of the merits.
The purpose is neither - the purpose is to capitalize on space. As was mentioned earlier, the amounts of resources availible on the moon, mars and other "nearby" stellar objects make space exploration very very attractive to just about anyone.
In the case of China, they have a very special interest in getting to space - a lack of space down here. China is running dangerously low on resources to attempt to maintain its massive population - and if they can take advantage of the complete lack of anyone else running after space, they will. With 1.2 Billion people around and a communist government in control, they have the manpower to build a successful space program. Wonderful thing about communism is that they'll happily break their own economy on the world stage if it will serve their national purpose.
I'm confused by this. The article repeatedly states that The Beatles are sueing apple. It doesnt state that the Beatles former Label, Apple Corp, is suing them.
The Beatles songs and the economic copyrights (all revenue generated by) are owned by Micheal Jackson. Is he involved in this, him being technically the owner of all things 'Beatles' anymore.
Who is sueing who here? Can someone please clarify?
Then there are the cases where the "refugee" decides to make a living via B&E, armed robbery, etc., despite being able to work legally. Even if they are caught, their lack of compliance to basic laws of society cannot be used against them in the hearing that they will not attend that produces results that nobody pays attention to.
This is exactly the type of prejudice that I as a Canadian am vehemently opposed to. I'm insulted to think these comments came from a Canadian, and it sickens me to see this type of racism being moderated as "Interesting".
The Convention Refugee Abroad class includes people who are outside their country of citizenship or habitual residence. Refugees in this class have a well-founded fear of persecution for reasons of:
* race;
* religion;
* political opinion;
* nationality; or
* membership in a particular social group.
There are other reasons listed on that page. Believe me, if you have ever delt with a customs agent beyond the standard 5 questions, you will have one hell of a time claiming refugee status without any documents.
As a side note, are you aware that more than 100 American Citizens claimed refugee status in canada for some of the reasons listed above?
Excellent point. I had a recent experience to that effect Here and had many people wanting to mod my moderator as funny. I think there should be a few more options for metamoding.
Not only that, but sometimes I kinda wish you could mod posts as just plain "Wrong" or "Stupid". Though it wouldnt really be very nice...
Bull. I download music because, in my opinion, in order to steal something from you, you need to loose something.
On TV here in ontario right now they have a commercial against "Satalite Signal Theft" saying that "Theft is Theft" and so forth. Are Satalite companies loosing something by me using satalite television without paying them? Nope. Are music labels loosing something when I download music? Nope. They're loosing something they MIGHT have had.
As a close-to-broke student, I can garantee you that I wouldnt have bought any CDs recently. But I recently attended a concert of an artist my only exposure to was through mp3s that I'd downloaded. Thus, without this copyright infringement I've committed, the band would have recieved nothing from me. As it is, they've gotten revenue from my ticket sale and T-shirt I purchased.
As a side note about satalite signal theft - how can I steal something that is being BEAMED INTO MY BRAIN every second of my day.
In fact, I got my first ADSL in my own name when I was 17 (the age of majority here is 19).
Bzzt. You can drink and smoke at 19 in ontario. Age of majority is 18 - at which you can vote and take on legal responcibilities. Once you hit 18, you are treated as an adult for all purposes except buying booze and smokes. You get tried in adult courts if you commit a crime.
My personal plan would be to take the intake and exhost pipes up above the top of the car, and then just take it right off the nearest wall. A five foot drop wouldnt be a problem, provided i didnt get water sucked in.
in fact (afterthought), I'd probably have a negative revenue - as I've got bandwidth costs to take into account. Now that would be fun - getting RIAA to pay for 10% of my bandwidth bill so I can run a webcast.
I must have misread this 'percentage of revenue' thing. But I'd swear its there.
What about this "Pay a percentage of revenue" thing? If I decided to do some webcasts, I'd happily pay RIAA something like 10% of my nonexistant revenue.
I was under the impression that Microsoft didnt encourage the use of its products in applications such as these. We are talking about systems that cannot fail - if they do, people could die.
I thought Microsoft had the sense to accually say 'this is not what our product is for - get something custom'. If I worked at Microsoft, the last place I'd want our 'it-does-everything' operationg system doing would be managing the safety systems at a nuclear plant.
Does anyone know if Microsoft accually encourages this type of a deployment - if they dont, what moron decided to use it?
My power bill was FOUR HUNDRED DOLLARS last month.
So blame your politician? How bout you use less power.
In ontario, electricity is capped at 4.5 cents per kilowatt hour. It often costs over ten times that to generate it. And we wonder why people have no problem using power to the point where the entire grid crashes.
They'll do it anyway. And we'll have a half-assed and dangerous nuclear power plant on mars.
While I'm all for a mission to mars, it should be a very well financed, international, and permenent settlement. The people sent there should not be coming back.
Heh.. funny story... got karma to burn... completely offtopic..
Friend of mine had quite a car stereo - and drank a lot. He found that if his alarm went off after he'd gone to sleep, it wouldnt wake him up.
So, he did make a better car alarm, exactly as you discribe. He took the normal car alarm, pulled off the pathetic excuse for a noise maker, and promptly strapped on an ambulance siren.
This handy device was probably about 16 inches long, and shaped like a loudspeaker horn. It was now easily heard overtop of his stereo - which did 154db. It was painful to stand beside if it went off. And that little 'blip blip' you get when you arm or disarm it - that could be heard clearly about a block away (in a residential neighbourhood , not downtown).
Well, once I was over at his place, after a good solid night of drinking. At about 4:30am the alarm went off. In a matter of ten seconds flat, there were four drunk guys out on the driveway in underwear. Nobody was there, and there was cat footprints on his windshield.
Who has the most to gain from SCO winning this lawsuit? Certainly not SCO, because they arent going to get money from Linux development. Not microsoft, because linux will not die.
Sure, SCO will get the money from the lawsuit itself, but nothing beyond that.
Sun.
Think about it. If major corporations are forced to switch away from linux, Solaris is the next viable product. SCO is not only a bad product, but they've sucessfully put the last nail in their own coffin with this lawsuit. They pissed off the majority of the industry.
Microsoft wouldnt take the market, because all the applications and development are designed around linux/unix environments.
Don't get me wrong, I like a lot of what Sun is doing, but they're probably waiting with baited breath to see the outcome of this.
There will always be a market for Sun boxes - of all the higher-end server machines that have been out there, sun has outlived most. They're now the defacto non-intel platform in the server arena. From my experience, sun hardware is the first platform out there that you'll run into if you cut out apple and i386 hardware.
Plus, Sun is much more than just a hardware/OS company. They're diversifying - thats good. They probably see the threat that linux/open source represents to their sun/solaris product lines, and are moving to embrace it, so they can have a peice of the linux pie when it starts eating into their solaris cashflow.
I have an idea that might wake the corporate world up to what the Open Source world is capable of.
51% of SCO is around 6.5 million shares. Shares are selling at around $11 a peice.
Lets say we get a million open source coders and supporters to buy 7 shares each. Thats an investment of less than $100 per person.
We take our voting majority, and run SCO promptly into the ground - eating that $77 loss per person.
And we do so loudly. We make it known before we begin that SCO has messed with something it shouldnt have, and now they'll observe the true power of the force.. err.. the source.
Though, someone a little more prominent has to call for this. If Linus did it, we might accually pull it off.
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I don't want free music, I want cheaper recordable media! I'm not sure about this $0.77 per CD though - I'm sure i've bought CD's for $0.50 before on spindles.
You're right. I can get it for $0.30 per CD right now. Finding a 100 CD spindle for $30 is easy here in ontario. I have no idea where this $0.77 per CD thing came from.
It might also be good to point out that the current Canadian government recently passed a bill that prevents large donations to political parties from any source. After you get elected to a certain number of seats in the House of Commons, you recieve 'official party' status, and accually recieve governmental funding as such.
Accually, I doubt that. Its currently illegal to be sued for any pirated media you have at your home. Until you start selling that media, you're protected. Its accually in our bill of rights - something that is virtually impossible to alter.
Just think about someone trying to alter your constitution to remove the right to bare arms. Not likely, regardless of the merits.
The purpose is neither - the purpose is to capitalize on space. As was mentioned earlier, the amounts of resources availible on the moon, mars and other "nearby" stellar objects make space exploration very very attractive to just about anyone.
In the case of China, they have a very special interest in getting to space - a lack of space down here. China is running dangerously low on resources to attempt to maintain its massive population - and if they can take advantage of the complete lack of anyone else running after space, they will. With 1.2 Billion people around and a communist government in control, they have the manpower to build a successful space program. Wonderful thing about communism is that they'll happily break their own economy on the world stage if it will serve their national purpose.
Yeah but looking elsewhere while browsing the web kinda defeats the purpose.
I'm confused by this. The article repeatedly states that The Beatles are sueing apple. It doesnt state that the Beatles former Label, Apple Corp, is suing them.
The Beatles songs and the economic copyrights (all revenue generated by) are owned by Micheal Jackson. Is he involved in this, him being technically the owner of all things 'Beatles' anymore.
Who is sueing who here? Can someone please clarify?
This is exactly the type of prejudice that I as a Canadian am vehemently opposed to. I'm insulted to think these comments came from a Canadian, and it sickens me to see this type of racism being moderated as "Interesting".
From the Canadian Government website on refugee elegibility:
There are other reasons listed on that page. Believe me, if you have ever delt with a customs agent beyond the standard 5 questions, you will have one hell of a time claiming refugee status without any documents.
As a side note, are you aware that more than 100 American Citizens claimed refugee status in canada for some of the reasons listed above?
Oh dont worry, we'll be able to find tattered burlap bags which we will inevitably make into skin-tight garments.
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Excellent point. I had a recent experience to that effect Here and had many people wanting to mod my moderator as funny. I think there should be a few more options for metamoding.
Not only that, but sometimes I kinda wish you could mod posts as just plain "Wrong" or "Stupid". Though it wouldnt really be very nice...
Bull. I download music because, in my opinion, in order to steal something from you, you need to loose something.
On TV here in ontario right now they have a commercial against "Satalite Signal Theft" saying that "Theft is Theft" and so forth. Are Satalite companies loosing something by me using satalite television without paying them? Nope. Are music labels loosing something when I download music? Nope. They're loosing something they MIGHT have had.
As a close-to-broke student, I can garantee you that I wouldnt have bought any CDs recently. But I recently attended a concert of an artist my only exposure to was through mp3s that I'd downloaded. Thus, without this copyright infringement I've committed, the band would have recieved nothing from me. As it is, they've gotten revenue from my ticket sale and T-shirt I purchased.
As a side note about satalite signal theft - how can I steal something that is being BEAMED INTO MY BRAIN every second of my day.
In fact, I got my first ADSL in my own name when I was 17 (the age of majority here is 19).
Bzzt. You can drink and smoke at 19 in ontario. Age of majority is 18 - at which you can vote and take on legal responcibilities. Once you hit 18, you are treated as an adult for all purposes except buying booze and smokes. You get tried in adult courts if you commit a crime.
My personal plan would be to take the intake and exhost pipes up above the top of the car, and then just take it right off the nearest wall. A five foot drop wouldnt be a problem, provided i didnt get water sucked in.
in fact (afterthought), I'd probably have a negative revenue - as I've got bandwidth costs to take into account. Now that would be fun - getting RIAA to pay for 10% of my bandwidth bill so I can run a webcast.
I must have misread this 'percentage of revenue' thing. But I'd swear its there.
What about this "Pay a percentage of revenue" thing? If I decided to do some webcasts, I'd happily pay RIAA something like 10% of my nonexistant revenue.
At least hydrogen doesnt generate carbon monoxide when it burns.
I was under the impression that Microsoft didnt encourage the use of its products in applications such as these. We are talking about systems that cannot fail - if they do, people could die.
I thought Microsoft had the sense to accually say 'this is not what our product is for - get something custom'. If I worked at Microsoft, the last place I'd want our 'it-does-everything' operationg system doing would be managing the safety systems at a nuclear plant.
Does anyone know if Microsoft accually encourages this type of a deployment - if they dont, what moron decided to use it?
My power bill was FOUR HUNDRED DOLLARS last month.
So blame your politician? How bout you use less power.
In ontario, electricity is capped at 4.5 cents per kilowatt hour. It often costs over ten times that to generate it. And we wonder why people have no problem using power to the point where the entire grid crashes.
They'll do it anyway. And we'll have a half-assed and dangerous nuclear power plant on mars.
While I'm all for a mission to mars, it should be a very well financed, international, and permenent settlement. The people sent there should not be coming back.
Heh.. funny story... got karma to burn... completely offtopic..
Friend of mine had quite a car stereo - and drank a lot. He found that if his alarm went off after he'd gone to sleep, it wouldnt wake him up.
So, he did make a better car alarm, exactly as you discribe. He took the normal car alarm, pulled off the pathetic excuse for a noise maker, and promptly strapped on an ambulance siren.
This handy device was probably about 16 inches long, and shaped like a loudspeaker horn. It was now easily heard overtop of his stereo - which did 154db. It was painful to stand beside if it went off. And that little 'blip blip' you get when you arm or disarm it - that could be heard clearly about a block away (in a residential neighbourhood , not downtown).
Well, once I was over at his place, after a good solid night of drinking. At about 4:30am the alarm went off. In a matter of ten seconds flat, there were four drunk guys out on the driveway in underwear. Nobody was there, and there was cat footprints on his windshield.
Remember, any bug you find that you don't report is likely to not be fixed in the next release if you don't report it.
Department of Redundancy Department?
Does anyone know if SCO is successfully collecting on this? Is money being made?
Lets assume that they are. And lets assume they loose the lawsuit, and are proven not to own any Linux code.
What then? Do those people get their money back? Do they get to sue for extortion? What happens to the SCO execs?
Many questions, few answers.
Who has the most to gain from SCO winning this lawsuit? Certainly not SCO, because they arent going to get money from Linux development. Not microsoft, because linux will not die.
Sure, SCO will get the money from the lawsuit itself, but nothing beyond that.
Sun.
Think about it. If major corporations are forced to switch away from linux, Solaris is the next viable product. SCO is not only a bad product, but they've sucessfully put the last nail in their own coffin with this lawsuit. They pissed off the majority of the industry.
Microsoft wouldnt take the market, because all the applications and development are designed around linux/unix environments.
Don't get me wrong, I like a lot of what Sun is doing, but they're probably waiting with baited breath to see the outcome of this.
There will always be a market for Sun boxes - of all the higher-end server machines that have been out there, sun has outlived most. They're now the defacto non-intel platform in the server arena. From my experience, sun hardware is the first platform out there that you'll run into if you cut out apple and i386 hardware.
Plus, Sun is much more than just a hardware/OS company. They're diversifying - thats good. They probably see the threat that linux/open source represents to their sun/solaris product lines, and are moving to embrace it, so they can have a peice of the linux pie when it starts eating into their solaris cashflow.
I have an idea that might wake the corporate world up to what the Open Source world is capable of.
.. the source.
51% of SCO is around 6.5 million shares. Shares are selling at around $11 a peice.
Lets say we get a million open source coders and supporters to buy 7 shares each. Thats an investment of less than $100 per person.
We take our voting majority, and run SCO promptly into the ground - eating that $77 loss per person.
And we do so loudly. We make it known before we begin that SCO has messed with something it shouldnt have, and now they'll observe the true power of the force.. err
Though, someone a little more prominent has to call for this. If Linus did it, we might accually pull it off.