The majority of computer users already uses a standards compliant browser. Its called Internet Explorer. When over 97% percent of the internet using population uses one browser, it BECOMES the standard. Whatever that crusty old academic group, the WC3 consortium comes up with matters anymore. Mozilla is actually the one not in compliance.
Where have you been for the last 10 years? The term "speed bump" has been used to describe moderate speed increases across all ranges of hardware, from Macs, to PC's to servers.
Perhaps you could provide an explanation then. What is the point of going to an Ive League school when all you are going to do with your life is manual labor?
The problem with Apple is you have to buy their top of the line systems to get speed parity with moderately priced current PC systms. I don't want to hear any MHz Myth talk. A $899 iBook will NOT compare in speed favorably. with a $999 laptop from Dell.
So the point is, yeah you can get cheap Macs. They'll just be unbearably slow Macs as well.
Personally I think this is a very good thing. I think everyone here understimated the will of Red Hat to make Linux truly easy to use in each and every way. For far too long Linux has suffered from TOO much choice. Not that exterminating choice altogether is the goal, or even desireable but the most common and weakest argument in support of using Linux is the out of control amount of different applications that do the exact same thing.
This is bad because a large base of common knowledge cannot be built around such fragmented apps. A few people know vi, a few others emacs, a few more bash, and a few more know....etc. Whats this leads to is no one knows what YOU need to know whenever you ask them. Thus the Linux desktop/workstation movement overall suffers. (For those of you about to butt in with your "We don't want Linux to be easy, we don't care about the desktop, you stoopit users can just stick to Windows blah blah blah" just stuff it. This Linux "thing" was usurped from you whiney fellows a LONG time ago and your opinions as worthless as ever simply do not matter.)
So RedHat, clearly emboldened by their unifying of the two idiotically different KDE/Gnome projects now seeks to unify other unnecessarily divided efforts thus making the learning curve smaller for newbies and those who's time is more precious than any geek could possibly imagine.
Someday in the near future the glorious masses shall have a mind bendingly easy to use Linux, a Linux as easy to use as Mac OS X or Windows XP and they'll have one company, one distro to thank for it. Not the distro that is associated with a guy who wants to add "GNU/" to the front of everything open source (Debian). Not the distro that is updated once every 2 years. (Slackware). Not the distro that tries to be a pitiful half-Windows (Lindows).
No. The company and distro to thank shall be RedHat. The bright light at the end of the tunnel. The only distro brave enough to face the pedantic relentlessly whinney geeks/nerds and grasp them by the horns. Forcing their separate projects to gel together into a cohesive and easy to use greater whole. Recognizing that if this "Linux thing" is ever going to be worth a damn, it has to reach the regular man. It cannot remain the domain of sunlight deprived long bearded caffiene junkie anti-social "open sourcers".
Thank you RedHat. Thank you for making Linux into something everyone and anyone can use. Thank you for taming the geeks. Thank you for helping some of us realize that in order to have REAL choice in operating systems, you must sometimes make difficult CHOICES.
Why on GAWD's green Earth would anyone with a high level of intellect want to FIGHT for a government job? Jesus Christ. Talk about a waste of resources. Smart people deserve high wages, fame, and or fortune, not a life of drudgery serving the unwashed masses!
How about we figure out a way to keep our standard of living high without taking out the rest of the world?
I mean its not as if the rest of the world will sit by idly while we destabilize them. They'll wage war for their very survival. And they may win. They might not, but then again, why chance it? You make it sound like we're lining up for mile long breadlines as happened during the Great Depression (33% unemployment). Right now we're bitching and moaning about 5.6-5.8% unemployment. Oh yes by all means lets kill ever non-American in that case!
"There was a time when workers could be paid according to the dictates of the market, but since various socialist "innovations" introduced over the last twenty years have kicked in, companies just can't hire and fire people as and when they need to, and retaining staff is getting more and more expensive... not because of wages, but because of the increased burden of government mandated benefits these people are required to have, despite earning plenty enough to provide for themselves. "
Hmmm. Well you as Mr. Top-Flight Consultant may have enough disposable income to provide for your own healthcare and retirement but that does not mean the rest of the working population does. These systems would not be in place if most people COULD provide these things for themselves. So why don't you stick to the topic at hand instead of veering off into hyper-conservative economic policies that have been rejected due to their inhumane treatment of the citizens of whatever nation got rid of them.
I don't know why you think people exist for the benefit of the market. We're not here to service the economy. The economy, and the government is here to serve us, the people. If that means an extra rule, law or regulation in regards to proper labor practices then so be it. I think the economy will survive. I also don't think anyone wants to go back to nationwide sweatshops just so we can prevent jobs from going overseas.
It looks like the Cartoon Network figured out what I had known all along. The only people who watch Anime are Slashdot geeks and nerds, and that is not a demographic large enough to satisfy ANY sponser.
Actually that marketing campaign was a hit. Dell is just being smart by deciding not to overdo it and save Steven for later. I know you all hate him, but he was an overwhelming success for the company.
Its not a bad argument. Its a good one. The reason why is that you need only one reason to restrict anyone's rights, and that is by NOT doing so would allow harm, significant harm, to come to you or others.
Are you harmed by cell phone usage? How much? Do you actually think its legal to blast your radio at late hours of the night? Its not. There problem ALREADY solved. As for cellphones? Don't want to hear one on the train? Fine. Buy a car and drive it to where you need to go. Public transit garuntees no serenity.
If you really want to get into a fight over a cellphone thats up to you. I'll tell you personally I'll do my best to put someone in the hospital for a long time if they tried to stop me from using my cell. So its either you leave me alone to talk as I wish, or you try to stop me and either kill me or you end up maimed. I think its pretty stupid to let it get that far over a cell phone call but like I said its up to you. And even if you won that fight, odds are you are going to have to ride the train/bus again and I'd simply ride it everyday at the same time until I found you again. And this time I'd be ready...
And hell yeah I can go far in life with this attitude. You think that by being a nice guy I'm going to get far in life faster or something?
Need to place that call? No. Want to place the call? Yes. Is that enough of a reson in a free society? Yes.
Your anger is misplaced. Try re-directing your jealousy of the person who sold their stock for a profit to a more degenerate type of individual in our fair socitey. Cellphone users are by and large innocent people/professionals who are simply keeping in touch with friends, family and business contacts. Any one of those is far more important then accomodating your need to NOT be aggravated in your lonely life.
In Boston people talk loudly all the time on their cellphones, in the subway and on the buses. No one starts any fights. It could just be because we have a more mature group of individuals here who know how to adjust to the way technology can change your life. I've long ago developed the ability to tune out other's phone conversations, why can't you? Who are you and how important can you possibly be that I or anyone else should restrict my personal/business communication habits for? As long as I am not actually yelling in your ear then you really have no ground to stand on.
*And yes its a GAWD given right. GAWD made the radio waves we use to place cell calls so he must have anticipated this use for them and since there's been no 2nd destroying of the World (Noah, the big flood, remember?) he must not care about the whole thing as much as some folks here on Earth do.
*(I am actually an Atheist but placed this last part here for any religious people who need theological rationalization for the prevelance of cell phone usage everywhere.)
While your tirade against the supposed "ME generation" was cute, your anger is really quite baseless. People talking on cellphones generally cause you little harm. Instead of seeking to expose problems where there really aren't any, why don't you satirize somehting that actually IS a problem in our society today?
You see, you need an actual GOOD reason why someone shouldn't use a cellphone. Not one thats been adopted by the oh-so-cool, we-reject-cool-counter-culture-angst-ridden-slacke r-losers we seem to hear so much from these days.
Man you're a whackjob. Most current cellphones, the overwhelming majority of them do not even have GPS locators built in. How are the companies tracking your movements then? Triangulating your position from 3 towers? I don't think they'd waste resources like that for something that will not help them derive additional revenue.
You are simply a freaking, tin-foil hat wearing moron.
Second hand smoke can kill you. Cellphone talkers can just piss you off. Deal with it. Lets not become luddites because some folks just want to be counter-culture.
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No sense in using a browser that makes you jump thru hoops just to upload attachments. Just use IE. Even on Linux I load up VMWare solely for IE.
And know about it!
The majority of computer users already uses a standards compliant browser. Its called Internet Explorer. When over 97% percent of the internet using population uses one browser, it BECOMES the standard. Whatever that crusty old academic group, the WC3 consortium comes up with matters anymore. Mozilla is actually the one not in compliance.
I am at work here with W2k and Mozilla. Excite loaded just fine. Whatyoutalkinbout Willis!?!??!
Where have you been for the last 10 years? The term "speed bump" has been used to describe moderate speed increases across all ranges of hardware, from Macs, to PC's to servers.
Perhaps you could provide an explanation then. What is the point of going to an Ive League school when all you are going to do with your life is manual labor?
The kid could be years old, concieved in a time of economic prosperity that seemed neverending.
The problem with Apple is you have to buy their top of the line systems to get speed parity with moderately priced current PC systms. I don't want to hear any MHz Myth talk. A $899 iBook will NOT compare in speed favorably. with a $999 laptop from Dell.
So the point is, yeah you can get cheap Macs. They'll just be unbearably slow Macs as well.
With the horrible aftermath of the disastrous merger to deal with, does HP have this kind of money to give away?
Personally I think this is a very good thing. I think everyone here understimated the will of Red Hat to make Linux truly easy to use in each and every way. For far too long Linux has suffered from TOO much choice. Not that exterminating choice altogether is the goal, or even desireable but the most common and weakest argument in support of using Linux is the out of control amount of different applications that do the exact same thing.
This is bad because a large base of common knowledge cannot be built around such fragmented apps. A few people know vi, a few others emacs, a few more bash, and a few more know....etc. Whats this leads to is no one knows what YOU need to know whenever you ask them. Thus the Linux desktop/workstation movement overall suffers. (For those of you about to butt in with your "We don't want Linux to be easy, we don't care about the desktop, you stoopit users can just stick to Windows blah blah blah" just stuff it. This Linux "thing" was usurped from you whiney fellows a LONG time ago and your opinions as worthless as ever simply do not matter.)
So RedHat, clearly emboldened by their unifying of the two idiotically different KDE/Gnome projects now seeks to unify other unnecessarily divided efforts thus making the learning curve smaller for newbies and those who's time is more precious than any geek could possibly imagine.
Someday in the near future the glorious masses shall have a mind bendingly easy to use Linux, a Linux as easy to use as Mac OS X or Windows XP and they'll have one company, one distro to thank for it. Not the distro that is associated with a guy who wants to add "GNU/" to the front of everything open source (Debian). Not the distro that is updated once every 2 years. (Slackware). Not the distro that tries to be a pitiful half-Windows (Lindows).
No. The company and distro to thank shall be RedHat. The bright light at the end of the tunnel. The only distro brave enough to face the pedantic relentlessly whinney geeks/nerds and grasp them by the horns. Forcing their separate projects to gel together into a cohesive and easy to use greater whole. Recognizing that if this "Linux thing" is ever going to be worth a damn, it has to reach the regular man. It cannot remain the domain of sunlight deprived long bearded caffiene junkie anti-social "open sourcers".
Thank you RedHat. Thank you for making Linux into something everyone and anyone can use. Thank you for taming the geeks. Thank you for helping some of us realize that in order to have REAL choice in operating systems, you must sometimes make difficult CHOICES.
Change does not always equal good. Someday some geek somewhere may figure that out.
Why on GAWD's green Earth would anyone with a high level of intellect want to FIGHT for a government job? Jesus Christ. Talk about a waste of resources. Smart people deserve high wages, fame, and or fortune, not a life of drudgery serving the unwashed masses!
How about we figure out a way to keep our standard of living high without taking out the rest of the world?
I mean its not as if the rest of the world will sit by idly while we destabilize them. They'll wage war for their very survival. And they may win. They might not, but then again, why chance it? You make it sound like we're lining up for mile long breadlines as happened during the Great Depression (33% unemployment). Right now we're bitching and moaning about 5.6-5.8% unemployment. Oh yes by all means lets kill ever non-American in that case!
"Dock workers have a thankless and dangerous job. They deserve their money."
Until they get replaced by machines that is.
"There was a time when workers could be paid according to the dictates of the market, but since various socialist "innovations" introduced over the last twenty years have kicked in, companies just can't hire and fire people as and when they need to, and retaining staff is getting more and more expensive... not because of wages, but because of the increased burden of government mandated benefits these people are required to have, despite earning plenty enough to provide for themselves. "
Hmmm. Well you as Mr. Top-Flight Consultant may have enough disposable income to provide for your own healthcare and retirement but that does not mean the rest of the working population does. These systems would not be in place if most people COULD provide these things for themselves. So why don't you stick to the topic at hand instead of veering off into hyper-conservative economic policies that have been rejected due to their inhumane treatment of the citizens of whatever nation got rid of them.
I don't know why you think people exist for the benefit of the market. We're not here to service the economy. The economy, and the government is here to serve us, the people. If that means an extra rule, law or regulation in regards to proper labor practices then so be it. I think the economy will survive. I also don't think anyone wants to go back to nationwide sweatshops just so we can prevent jobs from going overseas.
It looks like the Cartoon Network figured out what I had known all along. The only people who watch Anime are Slashdot geeks and nerds, and that is not a demographic large enough to satisfy ANY sponser.
"If you want wireless communication - get a cell phone. If you want a personal digital assistant - get a Palm."
Or you could just get a Kyocera Smartphone which is both. I have one, and it works fine in both capacities. www.kyocera-wireless.com
If it had been me I would have simply opened my jacket to display my firewarm and continued yelling.
Actually that marketing campaign was a hit. Dell is just being smart by deciding not to overdo it and save Steven for later. I know you all hate him, but he was an overwhelming success for the company.
Its not a bad argument. Its a good one. The reason why is that you need only one reason to restrict anyone's rights, and that is by NOT doing so would allow harm, significant harm, to come to you or others.
Are you harmed by cell phone usage? How much? Do you actually think its legal to blast your radio at late hours of the night? Its not. There problem ALREADY solved. As for cellphones? Don't want to hear one on the train? Fine. Buy a car and drive it to where you need to go. Public transit garuntees no serenity.
If you really want to get into a fight over a cellphone thats up to you. I'll tell you personally I'll do my best to put someone in the hospital for a long time if they tried to stop me from using my cell. So its either you leave me alone to talk as I wish, or you try to stop me and either kill me or you end up maimed. I think its pretty stupid to let it get that far over a cell phone call but like I said its up to you. And even if you won that fight, odds are you are going to have to ride the train/bus again and I'd simply ride it everyday at the same time until I found you again. And this time I'd be ready...
And hell yeah I can go far in life with this attitude. You think that by being a nice guy I'm going to get far in life faster or something?
Need to place that call? No. Want to place the call? Yes. Is that enough of a reson in a free society? Yes.
Your anger is misplaced. Try re-directing your jealousy of the person who sold their stock for a profit to a more degenerate type of individual in our fair socitey. Cellphone users are by and large innocent people/professionals who are simply keeping in touch with friends, family and business contacts. Any one of those is far more important then accomodating your need to NOT be aggravated in your lonely life.
In Boston people talk loudly all the time on their cellphones, in the subway and on the buses. No one starts any fights. It could just be because we have a more mature group of individuals here who know how to adjust to the way technology can change your life. I've long ago developed the ability to tune out other's phone conversations, why can't you? Who are you and how important can you possibly be that I or anyone else should restrict my personal/business communication habits for? As long as I am not actually yelling in your ear then you really have no ground to stand on.
*And yes its a GAWD given right. GAWD made the radio waves we use to place cell calls so he must have anticipated this use for them and since there's been no 2nd destroying of the World (Noah, the big flood, remember?) he must not care about the whole thing as much as some folks here on Earth do.
*(I am actually an Atheist but placed this last part here for any religious people who need theological rationalization for the prevelance of cell phone usage everywhere.)
Its a hard knock life, for us.
e r-losers
Its a hard knock life, for us.
This is a life for ME.
Fuck you if you can't see, its a hard knock life.
While your tirade against the supposed "ME generation" was cute, your anger is really quite baseless. People talking on cellphones generally cause you little harm. Instead of seeking to expose problems where there really aren't any, why don't you satirize somehting that actually IS a problem in our society today?
You see, you need an actual GOOD reason why someone shouldn't use a cellphone. Not one thats been adopted by the oh-so-cool, we-reject-cool-counter-culture-angst-ridden-slack
we seem to hear so much from these days.
Man you're a whackjob. Most current cellphones, the overwhelming majority of them do not even have GPS locators built in. How are the companies tracking your movements then? Triangulating your position from 3 towers? I don't think they'd waste resources like that for something that will not help them derive additional revenue.
You are simply a freaking, tin-foil hat wearing moron.
Second hand smoke can kill you. Cellphone talkers can just piss you off. Deal with it. Lets not become luddites because some folks just want to be counter-culture.
Why are they fools? Because they're more important than you?