When did Netscape stop being inferior? It's still slow and it's a memory hog compared to IE. Not only that, but they waited 2 years to release a new version. They tiptoed along while MS was happily updating IE, making new useful features, and making it error-resistent.
Funny thing is, there wouldn't be a Netscape today if they hadn't sold out to AOL (and the fact that they moved to server markets).
They had 0 chance to win the game against Microsoft. Basically, if you have a good IPO they will come after you.
I mean, is IE really that much better? I don't see why. Sure, it beats the heck out of Netscape 4.7 but the newest versions + Mozilla + Phoenix + etc are getting a lot more attention. Soon the only thing MS will be able to do is release a new OS to fight it (uhmm... Win95 all over again!).
Yeah, you think IE is fast, you think it doesn't use much memory... but what if Netscape was basically built in from the kernel up? IE is a part of Windows now and it can't be seperated. When you PC is booting into Win2K or XP... it's booting up IE also. There is always part of it in memory because the "integration" between the two products.
Fine... you can say integration is a good thing, I might agree. But the browser hasn't improved and the browser doesn't deserve the praise... the OS does for swallowing up such a product and using it from the file manager to displaying help files and even the desktop!
IE is fast, it booted up before Windows did. In fact I'd bet if they had to kill IE or ship it seperately that would kill their OS not their browser market.
If illegal music distribution** hadn't taken off on the mainstream we wouldn't have half the problems we have now.
I mean, when I heard of napster for the first time I thought the Internet would just get shut down the next day. Obviously it didn't, but it is happening slowly.
The problem is people in D.C. don't understand that sometimes innovators appear as outlaws. We could have done this whole P2P revolution a different way, we didn't have to force it on everyone......I'm glad about it though
**(you do need a contract to distribute music that is under copyright. I guess that the real people fighting P2P isn't the RIAA per se, it's music outlets, Media Play, Mom & Pop's, Best Buy, etc. When those die the RIAA will just adopt a P2P scheme)
Just a refresher, ICQ was invented in Israel by two gentleman who later sold the thing(y) to AOL.
AOL did nothing with it, but now they will?
What I hope to see come out of this: One network which has all the users, AIM and ICQ. The ICQ client with some additional features that newbies can't/won't use, AIM for us who don't want 'groupware'.
AIM is great. IMHO, AIM is the best client out there. Not because of the features but just the ease of use. ICQ was nice back in the day but when you just want to sit back and wait for buddies to pop into cubicals or dorm rooms: it's AIM.
Features? Why do you need all those features in most clients anyways? Not that I'm knocking the feature set on ICQ or another client but sometimes you just want 'buddy' to 'buddy' chat.
Fuck it, either way if it's a blow to Microsoft I'll bite.
And BTW; we just got a new IMAX theater which was partly built with public funds... but dammit, not AoTC! Hate me, fine, I liked it.
If you think about it, 1 OS was good for places like Gateway or Dell or even IBM.
Yeah, IBM was soooo confused... "OS/2 Warp or Windows?"
If you think about it, MS didn't always have the power to dictate who can use what. I think the odds are pretty good that the retailers themselves were happy to get into those agreements, early on at least.
The problem isn't even really with the OS. Remember at one time it cost money for Netscape (because it was [imho:is] the premier product). If someone wanted to strike a deal with Netscape and put it right on the installed OS's desktop... they can't! AOL? Out of the question! Now you must pay more because you haven't given Microsoft the mindshare they wanted.
I guess this is why Dell complained about these things at trial?
Companies always want to be told how to do their business.
I noticed you replied about a million times to your own posts and people at 0 or -1.
Let's though not ignore the fact, like you want to, that you bought a fucking used vehicle.
You are comparing the two almost as if you saved money... but it's only because it's used. Shit, I could say that I'm saving more because I don't actually have a car in my name so there!
But really kid, your Ford will cost more in maintenance! Do a google search, you will find that even though you have a warranty they won't cover anything. You will also find that like other Fords you may just have that nice engine of yours suddenly catch fire by itself.... Winstar?
Really... the F-150 costs more new than $22,000 so stop back-peddling and admit that you'll pay more for gas than a new (bybrid) car.
Toyota has the top selling car in america, and usually sold with 4 cyl's and no power.
Many people here think that all americans want horsepower and we all have oil in our vains like that Bill Ford fella. We don't.
Why is it the most stolen car for years was the Honda Accord, or the fact that almost all street racers won't touch an american car? (My friend at school, a racer, car audio tech and mechanic has an Accord he races with the plate: "V8sH8TME". Let's not mention the Ford he drives to school with the screws which hold on the hood! And only a few years old.)
American cars don't really have all that power that people say they do. They come with the options of going bigger... but even then the smaller, more efficient, imports get all the attention.
Face it, American cars were based on horses, but that was the 60's and 70's. Many have realized that to say that you have a V8 that could go faster, but sucks down gas like no other isn't cutting it.
Really what it comes down to: GM shuts down plants and puts millions out of work (for nothing). Ford has a history with Nazi's and Communists (real 'mericans huh?). But both have (un)safty records a mile long! Toyta for example though
When I look out my window now onto rush hour traffic I see 1 out of 100 cars are actually from the good ol' USA.
"Pledge of Allegiance: One nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all..."
Nothing I hate more than a signature troll.
Liberty and justice for all... unless you don't believe in G-d and want to omit that portion from the 'Pledge'. Should be more like: "One nation, under the President, with liberty and justice for all believers"
Maybe they load it up on their machine running MacOS 9 and see how ______ it is and they write a letter to the principle saying that every class should be with a Mac.
Maybe it's just a tactic to get mindshare. Get the newest, freshest OSX out there and viola! everyone in class will "switch".
There is a limit to the shows which are provided, but HBO-On-Demand now has a schedule published in our channel guide so you don't subscribe if you don't like what is coming up for the next month.
The other on-demand channels are just that. The movies, network shows (free) and all that are simple... you select it and hit play from your cable-box remote.
I think this is another test so I've been playing as many as I can, even if I don't watch them. I'd even go as far to say I'd pay for the on-demand tier if they carried more shows.
I think USA Networks should have their own (4 Law & Orders, and other shows like Monk) and franchise shows like SNL and etc could spawn more channels.
Heck, we even have one channel which shows community events and scheduled outtages (3 am on Wed. for example). All navigated with the remote!
Why even bother touting Office over AppleWorks. You just don't get Office for free when you buy XP.
All you get is "notepad", and "Write".
It doesn't seem fair. Also, IE6 can't do more than Netscape, Netscape has it's mail, news and etc built in.(Navigator is dead btw... duh M$).
The point is M$'s arguments are flawed all around. Multi User? They were the last to add that. When Unix was multi-user, well there was DOS, but in 3.1xxx you needed to install Windows in seperate directories for any type of multi-user environment. It's just silly!
Windows really doesn't come with much out of the box at all. Even the things they integrate suck, that is why there are billions of shareware apps for PC's.
Not sticking up for Apple/Mac, just saying MS sucks again.
I have used HBO-ON-Demand and even iControl which are both streamed to my set-top box (Pioneer). Never have I had any problems except maybe the expected slow response to the controls.
When you hit stop or pause it may take a second and while you fast forward you kind of need to anticipate when you want it to stop. But even watching "G-string Divas"; when they come down the pole fast nothing is lost.
Movies are good also on iControl. I recently watched Corky Romano and we were debating on if the quality was as good as the DVD. We got Dolby Digital from the stream, but we lacked the TV to test actual video quality so I guess it isn't. But it wasn't noticable on a standard 32" TV.
Actually now we have BBC on demand, Comedy Central and even Cartoon Network and more. I can't wait to check those out.
(also note, that even downloading at 250K [my max'd speed] doesn't affect the quality which I suspected it might. I know it's a different stream, but I thought they would encroach on my modems bandwidth to provide the extra audio etc.)
Digital Television is good on Time Warner (IMHE). BTW, we were the first city to get these on-demand services.
Funny, in debian apt-get works about 100% the same as the click-n-run whorehouse.
There could be (and are) nice front-ends that do the same deal.
I agree that rpm isn't the easiest way to install software that is "out there". You must hunt it down, try to install it, then hunt down the dependencies, and so forth. With apt-get though the packages are ready for you to install and dependencies are solved. RPM is powerful, and widely used but isn't on that same level. But then again there are apt-rpm (or whatever it's called) and Up2Date, but nothing works as well.
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When did Netscape stop being inferior? It's still slow and it's a memory hog compared to IE. Not only that, but they waited 2 years to release a new version. They tiptoed along while MS was happily updating IE, making new useful features, and making it error-resistent.
Funny thing is, there wouldn't be a Netscape today if they hadn't sold out to AOL (and the fact that they moved to server markets).
They had 0 chance to win the game against Microsoft. Basically, if you have a good IPO they will come after you.
I mean, is IE really that much better? I don't see why. Sure, it beats the heck out of Netscape 4.7 but the newest versions + Mozilla + Phoenix + etc are getting a lot more attention. Soon the only thing MS will be able to do is release a new OS to fight it (uhmm... Win95 all over again!).
Yeah, you think IE is fast, you think it doesn't use much memory... but what if Netscape was basically built in from the kernel up? IE is a part of Windows now and it can't be seperated. When you PC is booting into Win2K or XP... it's booting up IE also. There is always part of it in memory because the "integration" between the two products.
Fine... you can say integration is a good thing, I might agree. But the browser hasn't improved and the browser doesn't deserve the praise... the OS does for swallowing up such a product and using it from the file manager to displaying help files and even the desktop!
IE is fast, it booted up before Windows did. In fact I'd bet if they had to kill IE or ship it seperately that would kill their OS not their browser market.
I want to know how you will be able to play DVD's with the macrovision removed.
IIRC, there needs to be a decoder in the DVD drive - the disks are already encoded.
Napster Napster Napster Napster !
...I'm glad about it though
If illegal music distribution** hadn't taken off on the mainstream we wouldn't have half the problems we have now.
I mean, when I heard of napster for the first time I thought the Internet would just get shut down the next day. Obviously it didn't, but it is happening slowly.
The problem is people in D.C. don't understand that sometimes innovators appear as outlaws. We could have done this whole P2P revolution a different way, we didn't have to force it on everyone...
**(you do need a contract to distribute music that is under copyright. I guess that the real people fighting P2P isn't the RIAA per se, it's music outlets, Media Play, Mom & Pop's, Best Buy, etc. When those die the RIAA will just adopt a P2P scheme)
Don't worry, I figured they meant Washinton state also... my vote would be for Microsoft programmers as well.
Just a refresher, ICQ was invented in Israel by two gentleman who later sold the thing(y) to AOL.
AOL did nothing with it, but now they will?
What I hope to see come out of this: One network which has all the users, AIM and ICQ. The ICQ client with some additional features that newbies can't/won't use, AIM for us who don't want 'groupware'.
AIM is great. IMHO, AIM is the best client out there. Not because of the features but just the ease of use. ICQ was nice back in the day but when you just want to sit back and wait for buddies to pop into cubicals or dorm rooms: it's AIM.
Features? Why do you need all those features in most clients anyways? Not that I'm knocking the feature set on ICQ or another client but sometimes you just want 'buddy' to 'buddy' chat.
Fuck it, either way if it's a blow to Microsoft I'll bite.
And BTW; we just got a new IMAX theater which was partly built with public funds... but dammit, not AoTC! Hate me, fine, I liked it.
I got a flat screened monitor 40 inches wide!
I believe your's says etch-a-sketch on the side!
In a 32-bit world your a 2-bit user...
you got your own news group alt.total.luser
If you think about it, 1 OS was good for places like Gateway or Dell or even IBM.
Yeah, IBM was soooo confused... "OS/2 Warp or Windows?"
If you think about it, MS didn't always have the power to dictate who can use what. I think the odds are pretty good that the retailers themselves were happy to get into those agreements, early on at least.
The problem isn't even really with the OS. Remember at one time it cost money for Netscape (because it was [imho:is] the premier product). If someone wanted to strike a deal with Netscape and put it right on the installed OS's desktop... they can't! AOL? Out of the question! Now you must pay more because you haven't given Microsoft the mindshare they wanted.
I guess this is why Dell complained about these things at trial?
Companies always want to be told how to do their business.
Well, as Nostradamus said we can change our future.
On December 21, 2012 the Mayan's say that our tools and inventions will turn on us. Maybe this is our way of getting on the right track?
Could we stop it?
I noticed you replied about a million times to your own posts and people at 0 or -1.
Let's though not ignore the fact, like you want to, that you bought a fucking used vehicle.
You are comparing the two almost as if you saved money... but it's only because it's used. Shit, I could say that I'm saving more because I don't actually have a car in my name so there!
But really kid, your Ford will cost more in maintenance! Do a google search, you will find that even though you have a warranty they won't cover anything. You will also find that like other Fords you may just have that nice engine of yours suddenly catch fire by itself.... Winstar?
Really... the F-150 costs more new than $22,000 so stop back-peddling and admit that you'll pay more for gas than a new (bybrid) car.
Toyota has the top selling car in america, and usually sold with 4 cyl's and no power.
Many people here think that all americans want horsepower and we all have oil in our vains like that Bill Ford fella. We don't.
Why is it the most stolen car for years was the Honda Accord, or the fact that almost all street racers won't touch an american car? (My friend at school, a racer, car audio tech and mechanic has an Accord he races with the plate: "V8sH8TME". Let's not mention the Ford he drives to school with the screws which hold on the hood! And only a few years old.)
American cars don't really have all that power that people say they do. They come with the options of going bigger... but even then the smaller, more efficient, imports get all the attention.
Face it, American cars were based on horses, but that was the 60's and 70's. Many have realized that to say that you have a V8 that could go faster, but sucks down gas like no other isn't cutting it.
Really what it comes down to: GM shuts down plants and puts millions out of work (for nothing). Ford has a history with Nazi's and Communists (real 'mericans huh?). But both have (un)safty records a mile long! Toyta for example though
When I look out my window now onto rush hour traffic I see 1 out of 100 cars are actually from the good ol' USA.
Face it, we ain't got it no mo'!
No need for it.
With 0.2 you can customize your toolbar, and then add a dmoz/google search box. Also find on this page option which is essential.
"Pledge of Allegiance: One nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all..."
Nothing I hate more than a signature troll.
Liberty and justice for all... unless you don't believe in G-d and want to omit that portion from the 'Pledge'. Should be more like: "One nation, under the President, with liberty and justice for all believers"
You mention he didn't talk for a while... it is known that children that don't cry often while babies end up very smart children.
Maybe this non-talking is a sign also?
Maybe they load it up on their machine running MacOS 9 and see how ______ it is and they write a letter to the principle saying that every class should be with a Mac.
Maybe it's just a tactic to get mindshare. Get the newest, freshest OSX out there and viola! everyone in class will "switch".
If you ask a Korean, you'll be told that it's Korean
Well, technically... Japan is Korean.
Japan was settled by peoples who slowly moved up onto the islands via migration from Korea.
There is a limit to the shows which are provided, but HBO-On-Demand now has a schedule published in our channel guide so you don't subscribe if you don't like what is coming up for the next month.
The other on-demand channels are just that. The movies, network shows (free) and all that are simple... you select it and hit play from your cable-box remote.
I think this is another test so I've been playing as many as I can, even if I don't watch them. I'd even go as far to say I'd pay for the on-demand tier if they carried more shows.
I think USA Networks should have their own (4 Law & Orders, and other shows like Monk) and franchise shows like SNL and etc could spawn more channels.
Heck, we even have one channel which shows community events and scheduled outtages (3 am on Wed. for example). All navigated with the remote!
I love digital cable.
DDT single handedly killed maleria in the areas where it was used, due to it's very effective control of mosquitos.
On this single point you are wrong.
When you deploy any chemical to "control" mosquitos you just kill the weak ones leaving ones which will never die. It's called natural selection.
Two things fight malaria, and they are quinine and sickle-cell.
No! I said it isn't a threat.
I mean, I just sit here at my computer and have become an armchair climate specialist.
Plus, I won't be alive if it is a threat so what do I care, right?
Nothing to see here, move along!
This message paid for by Exxon-Mobile
At one time the USPS was #6 (in revenues) for all companies, just below Ford, GM and Exxon et.al.
I guess you are attempting a joke, but giving away access costs AOL something.
Sure, it's only 56K but they are handing out bandwidth.
Why even bother touting Office over AppleWorks. You just don't get Office for free when you buy XP.
All you get is "notepad", and "Write".
It doesn't seem fair. Also, IE6 can't do more than Netscape, Netscape has it's mail, news and etc built in.(Navigator is dead btw... duh M$).
The point is M$'s arguments are flawed all around. Multi User? They were the last to add that. When Unix was multi-user, well there was DOS, but in 3.1xxx you needed to install Windows in seperate directories for any type of multi-user environment. It's just silly!
Windows really doesn't come with much out of the box at all. Even the things they integrate suck, that is why there are billions of shareware apps for PC's.
Not sticking up for Apple/Mac, just saying MS sucks again.
I disagree.
I have used HBO-ON-Demand and even iControl which are both streamed to my set-top box (Pioneer). Never have I had any problems except maybe the expected slow response to the controls.
When you hit stop or pause it may take a second and while you fast forward you kind of need to anticipate when you want it to stop. But even watching "G-string Divas"; when they come down the pole fast nothing is lost.
Movies are good also on iControl. I recently watched Corky Romano and we were debating on if the quality was as good as the DVD. We got Dolby Digital from the stream, but we lacked the TV to test actual video quality so I guess it isn't. But it wasn't noticable on a standard 32" TV.
Actually now we have BBC on demand, Comedy Central and even Cartoon Network and more. I can't wait to check those out.
(also note, that even downloading at 250K [my max'd speed] doesn't affect the quality which I suspected it might. I know it's a different stream, but I thought they would encroach on my modems bandwidth to provide the extra audio etc.)
Digital Television is good on Time Warner (IMHE). BTW, we were the first city to get these on-demand services.
-NO kit has been avaliable for chatting online with console opponents for the most part, besides Dreamcast gear (this doesn't count Roger Wilco)
"NO kit has been available..." "...for the most part..." "...besides Dreamcast".
Cut the shit. Dreamcast was sold with a microphone, you could use this to make calls and also talk online with opponents (example: Mars Matrix).
Dreamcast is still the shit, way ahead of it's time admit it.
Funny, in debian apt-get works about 100% the same as the click-n-run whorehouse.
There could be (and are) nice front-ends that do the same deal.
I agree that rpm isn't the easiest way to install software that is "out there". You must hunt it down, try to install it, then hunt down the dependencies, and so forth. With apt-get though the packages are ready for you to install and dependencies are solved. RPM is powerful, and widely used but isn't on that same level. But then again there are apt-rpm (or whatever it's called) and Up2Date, but nothing works as well.
Then again, there is Red Carpet.