Rob (who should've had a promotion by now to at least Admiral),
It's been a damn long time.
I used to be ticked off that I didn't register for an account until long after I started reading (I could've been a 4-digit!) and I look now at some of the UIDs and think that you've got to be overwhelmed by what you and Jeff put together.
I'm glad you're taking some family time - just don't stay off the internet for too long huh?
And for (really) old time's sake, I notice that there has not yet been a mention of Petrified Natalie Portman or Grits in this article. Consider the oversight fixed.
Master's Thesis on SCADA Sec? Really? Published anywhere?
SCADA security isn't. I'm sorry but it's true. And the entire "security industry" is talking just like all the slashtards commenting.
Doing security right in this environment is non-trivial. The SCADA/ICS vendor community isn't providing it because SCADA/ICS customers aren't asking for it. The downside of course is that the SCADA/ICS customer is NOT the individual who is going to suffer when the screwups happen. The SCADA/ICS vendors and customers have externalized the costs of failure on the general public and no country-scale government is actually doing anything other than paying lip-service to the idea of dealing with aging/insecure infrastructure.
If you want to see more - have a look at the talk I did at DEF CON 18 - it covers the situation nicely.
And if you're living in NW Indiana (close to Chicago) that's peanuts. The adjusted rate for a forensic computer examiner in the Chicago area should be closer to 125k. If you're down near Indy, it might be about right. If that job was offered in anywhere in the middle, take it and run to the bank.
You can only really do this with the 1394 - 4pin (generic firewire) cable -- the Firewire - 6pin (Apple Firewire TM) cable doesn't fit nearly well enough without some significant force.
Not using all the power feed circuitry saves non-apple mfgs tens of dollars per hundred machines dontchaknow.
Local distribution done over undergrounds is fairly common in suburban North America -- has been since the 70s when PVC/ABS conduit became widely available and cheap. Works well in new "master planned" suburbs.
TFA talks about TRANSMISSION lines -- this is not the last mile, these are the ones that run on steel pylons. The "storm damage" is only rarely to the lines/pylons -- ie: only in ice storms/hurricanes/tornados. The poster is upset because breakers at substations are flipping during lighting events.
If you bury a transmission line (it's done all the time) you really only need to worry about two things, how you're going to get to it for the inevitable repair and how you're going to keep it cool. Until we've got widespread installation of superconducting transmission lines, they're still going to heat up when you push power through them, and while the pylons are un-pretty, air cooling is alot easier and cheaper than oil cooling an underground link.
It's all about the decision of what kind of crap to own. My life has not been happier since I decided that computers were tools that should work for me, not vice versa. Two 12" G4 iBooks later, marital computer bliss. Highly recommended.
Dude, do us all a favour and stop building now. Studs are supposed to be either 16" or 24" apart (depending on code). I'd love to see how you manage to apply 4'x8' or 4'x12' sheets of drywall to your 18" on centre walls.
Also, you've got to be at the bottom end of things if you think that a spool of 14/3 bought at the wholesale/commercial rate is expensive compared to the cost of an electrical apprentice pulling it through the studs.
Anyone who buys the copper wire for a house building project at Lowes or Home Despot deserves exactly what they get - the wrong fscking product at the wrong fscking price bought from someone who is just marginally more capable than the broom pilot who's working in aisle 2.
Actually, the more common implementation is that of a 2 port switch, where any of the physical ports are dynamically assigned to either the highspeed or lowspeed side of a 2 port switch to handle the buffering.
Interestingly enough, my daughter (3) has an old keyboard that she plunks down in front of the tv and types on and my son (1) uses an old ADB mouse (retail price $99) as a pull toy. They're both going to be special kinds of hardware geeks in a few years.
Read the keyspan link. You plug it into the USB plug on the Express and it drives the remote iTunes through the wireless/wired link. IE: you point the remote at the Express and you get what you'd expect - control over the tunes.
What I don't understand is why this isn't an Apple product and why the release wasn't co-ordinated. The keyspan AExpress remote makes the AExpress a good idea!
I would regularly get 1100kms of highway driving on my 89 normally aspirated jetta diesel. I wish I still had it as I could easily and cheaply convert it to run on french-fry juice instead of dino juice for the majority of the time - see http://www.greasecar.com for details. No biodiesel science project still required.... just suck the grease in at the fast food joint and go.
Seriously -- those retro 80s looking fold up blue and black monstrosities.
They rock.
Pretty much everyone here has em -- and loves em. Went through a big peer pressure "try them, you'll love them" about a year ago -- now we look like the control room at NASA.
Oh, and gotta love the $6 shipping+handling to make good on the lifetime warranty - you'll be thankful of that after a mis-timed chair roll.
Yaknow... for someone who claims to be a wirehead, you know shit about wires. Why don't you go back to your mom and tell her that you need to return your computer to BestBuy. DS-3 cards are part of the serial world, one in which you don't have a toe-hold, let alone a single reason to open your mouth. Either read the article, the google for terms that are unfamiliar before posting or just save us all the bloody torment and just don't post. Discussions on/. are already approaching spam-like signal to noise ratios - don't be part of the problem, be part of the solution.
Carpal Tunnel is a warning - if you are not careful, not only does it get worse, you get other bad things happening too.
I spent some quality time ignoring the CTS symptoms I was having and continued to pretend that all was ok. One morning (about 5.5 years ago) I woke up with a start because I thought my arms were on fire. A quick visual check ruled that out, but the sensation persisted. I made an appointment to see my GP and he quickly (thankfully) sent me on to a specialist instead of trying to fool about on his own. I ended up seeing a musician's injury specialist. Through a series of tests (nerve velocity, bone density scan, MRI) he diagnosed me with Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy. This is a rather horrible bit of a disease to end up with and is primarily caused by an ongoing irritation of sympathetic nerves (in my case, horribly microfractured wrists -- see bone scan for details). It doesn't go away and in fact was in remission for about 3 years and has recently cropped up. If you want more details, just reply to this and I'll fill you in.
PS: Thank goodness I'm in Canada and don't have to fight the insurance battle - the original poster has my total sympathy on that one.
Hey - I still (very occassionally) turn on my O1 just for the heck of it -- and Modem7 will still connect just fine with my linux box at 1200bps. Oh, and MONSTER still rocks - I'm scared of the @ -- aren't you?
Remember that Apple is a cult of personality -- Steve Jobs' personality. Newton did not come from within the RDF (Reality Distortion Field - that surrounds Steve) and therefore it is bad. The technological pieces are still held by Apple and they show up in odd places. The HWR from Newton is in OSX. It's called "inkwell" and hooking up a cheap (sub $99) usb tablet to a Mac lets you use it. Some people aren't fond of it. Apparently doesn't do cursive even though Rosetta (the actual name of the technology) does support it.
Damn - you're bringing back the memories in the worst way!
I did multi-image in the early 90s at Sheridan and still have stacks of 80trays and reels -- I had a genesis controller, but actually lost it (was installed in an old compaq luggable that I lost track of) and would love to get those shows back. I've considered building some software pieces that would let you take scans of the slides and then work backwards through the audio track to figure out the command codes but never got there.
Based on your UID, you've been here long enough to know that Taco has become a mac-freek over the last year or so... The site may be riddled with linux-weenies, but at the end of the day, its simply a choice of the best unix for one's needs.
You are applying unrealistic expectations to the capability of a land line to stay operational during a wide scale blackout. Ask anyone in the NE USA or SE Canada about their experiences with phone service during the august blackout -- I'll give you a hint -- the wire aggregators such as DMS-Urban devices did not have sufficient power. My cell phone worked throughout the blackout, my landline did not.
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Rob (who should've had a promotion by now to at least Admiral),
It's been a damn long time.
I used to be ticked off that I didn't register for an account until long after I started reading (I could've been a 4-digit!) and I look now at some of the UIDs and think that you've got to be overwhelmed by what you and Jeff put together.
I'm glad you're taking some family time - just don't stay off the internet for too long huh?
And for (really) old time's sake, I notice that there has not yet been a mention of Petrified Natalie Portman or Grits in this article. Consider the oversight fixed.
See ya around.
Master's Thesis on SCADA Sec? Really? Published anywhere?
SCADA security isn't. I'm sorry but it's true. And the entire "security industry" is talking just like all the slashtards commenting.
Doing security right in this environment is non-trivial. The SCADA/ICS vendor community isn't providing it because SCADA/ICS customers aren't asking for it. The downside of course is that the SCADA/ICS customer is NOT the individual who is going to suffer when the screwups happen. The SCADA/ICS vendors and customers have externalized the costs of failure on the general public and no country-scale government is actually doing anything other than paying lip-service to the idea of dealing with aging/insecure infrastructure.
If you want to see more - have a look at the talk I did at DEF CON 18 - it covers the situation nicely.
And if you're living in NW Indiana (close to Chicago) that's peanuts. The adjusted rate for a forensic computer examiner in the Chicago area should be closer to 125k. If you're down near Indy, it might be about right. If that job was offered in anywhere in the middle, take it and run to the bank.
You can only really do this with the 1394 - 4pin (generic firewire) cable -- the Firewire - 6pin (Apple Firewire TM) cable doesn't fit nearly well enough without some significant force.
Not using all the power feed circuitry saves non-apple mfgs tens of dollars per hundred machines dontchaknow.
And it matters.
Local distribution done over undergrounds is fairly common in suburban North America -- has been since the 70s when PVC/ABS conduit became widely available and cheap. Works well in new "master planned" suburbs.
TFA talks about TRANSMISSION lines -- this is not the last mile, these are the ones that run on steel pylons. The "storm damage" is only rarely to the lines/pylons -- ie: only in ice storms/hurricanes/tornados. The poster is upset because breakers at substations are flipping during lighting events.
If you bury a transmission line (it's done all the time) you really only need to worry about two things, how you're going to get to it for the inevitable repair and how you're going to keep it cool. Until we've got widespread installation of superconducting transmission lines, they're still going to heat up when you push power through them, and while the pylons are un-pretty, air cooling is alot easier and cheaper than oil cooling an underground link.
Not just based on the work of the boys from boston -- is the same bleeping product -- Symantec bought @tstake.
Oh, and if you're in Canada - you can't buy it there either. We tried.
Your low user id made me think that you might be clueful. L0phtcrack was developed in the USA by a bunch of bright boys in the north-east. Sheesh.
Those who don't study their history are doomed to repeat it. Please review the history of Germany, 1930-1939. Thank you for showing up.
It's all about the decision of what kind of crap to own. My life has not been happier since I decided that computers were tools that should work for me, not vice versa. Two 12" G4 iBooks later, marital computer bliss. Highly recommended.
Dude, do us all a favour and stop building now. Studs are supposed to be either 16" or 24" apart (depending on code). I'd love to see how you manage to apply 4'x8' or 4'x12' sheets of drywall to your 18" on centre walls.
Also, you've got to be at the bottom end of things if you think that a spool of 14/3 bought at the wholesale/commercial rate is expensive compared to the cost of an electrical apprentice pulling it through the studs.
Anyone who buys the copper wire for a house building project at Lowes or Home Despot deserves exactly what they get - the wrong fscking product at the wrong fscking price bought from someone who is just marginally more capable than the broom pilot who's working in aisle 2.
Sheesh.
Actually, the more common implementation is that of a 2 port switch, where any of the physical ports are dynamically assigned to either the highspeed or lowspeed side of a 2 port switch to handle the buffering.
Sheesh.
Interestingly enough, my daughter (3) has an old keyboard that she plunks down in front of the tv and types on and my son (1) uses an old ADB mouse (retail price $99) as a pull toy. They're both going to be special kinds of hardware geeks in a few years.
Read the keyspan link. You plug it into the USB plug on the Express and it drives the remote iTunes through the wireless/wired link. IE: you point the remote at the Express and you get what you'd expect - control over the tunes.
What I don't understand is why this isn't an Apple product and why the release wasn't co-ordinated. The keyspan AExpress remote makes the AExpress a good idea!
I would regularly get 1100kms of highway driving on my 89 normally aspirated jetta diesel. I wish I still had it as I could easily and cheaply convert it to run on french-fry juice instead of dino juice for the majority of the time - see http://www.greasecar.com for details. No biodiesel science project still required.... just suck the grease in at the fast food joint and go.
Seriously -- those retro 80s looking fold up blue and black monstrosities.
They rock.
Pretty much everyone here has em -- and loves em. Went through a big peer pressure "try them, you'll love them" about a year ago -- now we look like the control room at NASA.
Oh, and gotta love the $6 shipping+handling to make good on the lifetime warranty - you'll be thankful of that after a mis-timed chair roll.
Yaknow... for someone who claims to be a wirehead, you know shit about wires. Why don't you go back to your mom and tell her that you need to return your computer to BestBuy. DS-3 cards are part of the serial world, one in which you don't have a toe-hold, let alone a single reason to open your mouth. Either read the article, the google for terms that are unfamiliar before posting or just save us all the bloody torment and just don't post. Discussions on /. are already approaching spam-like signal to noise ratios - don't be part of the problem, be part of the solution.
EXCELLENT SIG! Time for a little Tae Kwon Leep!
Carpal Tunnel is a warning - if you are not careful, not only does it get worse, you get other bad things happening too.
I spent some quality time ignoring the CTS symptoms I was having and continued to pretend that all was ok. One morning (about 5.5 years ago) I woke up with a start because I thought my arms were on fire. A quick visual check ruled that out, but the sensation persisted. I made an appointment to see my GP and he quickly (thankfully) sent me on to a specialist instead of trying to fool about on his own. I ended up seeing a musician's injury specialist. Through a series of tests (nerve velocity, bone density scan, MRI) he diagnosed me with Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy. This is a rather horrible bit of a disease to end up with and is primarily caused by an ongoing irritation of sympathetic nerves (in my case, horribly microfractured wrists -- see bone scan for details). It doesn't go away and in fact was in remission for about 3 years and has recently cropped up. If you want more details, just reply to this and I'll fill you in.
PS: Thank goodness I'm in Canada and don't have to fight the insurance battle - the original poster has my total sympathy on that one.
Hey - I still (very occassionally) turn on my O1 just for the heck of it -- and Modem7 will still connect just fine with my linux box at 1200bps. Oh, and MONSTER still rocks - I'm scared of the @ -- aren't you?
Remember that Apple is a cult of personality -- Steve Jobs' personality. Newton did not come from within the RDF (Reality Distortion Field - that surrounds Steve) and therefore it is bad. The technological pieces are still held by Apple and they show up in odd places. The HWR from Newton is in OSX. It's called "inkwell" and hooking up a cheap (sub $99) usb tablet to a Mac lets you use it. Some people aren't fond of it. Apparently doesn't do cursive even though Rosetta (the actual name of the technology) does support it.
Damn - you're bringing back the memories in the worst way!
I did multi-image in the early 90s at Sheridan and still have stacks of 80trays and reels -- I had a genesis controller, but actually lost it (was installed in an old compaq luggable that I lost track of) and would love to get those shows back. I've considered building some software pieces that would let you take scans of the slides and then work backwards through the audio track to figure out the command codes but never got there.
Sigh.
mmmmm... love the gorilla store -- must take daughter there this weekend to find shiny bits for lego mindstorms project.
Yeah... and you've got a "turbo boost" button and big fluffy 80's Michael Knight hair.
Based on your UID, you've been here long enough to know that Taco has become a mac-freek over the last year or so... The site may be riddled with linux-weenies, but at the end of the day, its simply a choice of the best unix for one's needs.
You are applying unrealistic expectations to the capability of a land line to stay operational during a wide scale blackout. Ask anyone in the NE USA or SE Canada about their experiences with phone service during the august blackout -- I'll give you a hint -- the wire aggregators such as DMS-Urban devices did not have sufficient power. My cell phone worked throughout the blackout, my landline did not.
Good points - all of them - especially the last... to which I would like to add...
It's Voila, not "wallah".