We allow it here (20 people, so there's no real management issue).
It works well, we use MSN and Jabber between employees, and out to associates/clients/friends/family.
Personally, I've always been of the opinion that if an employee is spending too much time on IM, then it's time to talk to the employee, not block access for everyone.
The poster above was saying that we had 'learned to live' with terrorism, and that without the US's support, Australia would lose its independence to a terrorist faction.
I think it's hard to say that the US has been protecting Australia from terrorists/invaders for 60+ years... it's not like it was the US that won at Kokoda - we're capable of fighting for ourselves when we need to.
The US was attacked by terrorists. Historically, we don't get attacked by terrorists very often and guess what -- we don't like it. The rest of the world has become accustomed to terrorism -- learned to live with it. I guarantee we will never be content with frequent terrorism. How you can be is beyond me, but hey -- enjoy your outback. Alternatively, you can do something about it. Like Americans do.
When was the last time there was an attack on Australian soil? When was the last time someone tried to invade Australia?
I would hope that if Australia was attacked, we wouldn't lash out on incomplete information and invade unrelated countries. (I wouldn't be so sure, given who is in power right now, but still). I'm not saying you should like it - you shouldn't. You should do everything you can to hunt down those responsible without placing unreasonable demands on others. That isn't unfair, it's what the US democracy was founded for.
You are confusing behavior with a condition. One is voluntary, the other is not.
Almost all children are noisy, it's almost a fact of their existence. There's nothing the child can do about it, and there's (frequently) not much the parent can do, either.
While there are certainly times when a parent can intervene, a (for instance) six month old baby does not understand 'quiet'. If a parent is neglectful of their children's behaviour, that's another matter, but it's not always the way.
Why not? If someone does, why should people with kids care? Why the protests? How about just accepting it and not going? After all, the restraunt owner can keep out whoever he wants.
Right. Let's ban disabled people too, because those damn wheelchairs are so huge! I mean, they take up all the gap between tables and it's difficult to walk around them. (Especially with a pram;)
Seriously though, whenever I go to a restaurant I do my best to keep my two kids quiet; that said there's no 100% way to guarantee that they won't be naughty at least once in the 40 minutes we might be there. I don't take them anywhere incredibly up-market (not that I could afford to;), but it's not unrealistic in most places to accept some noise from children.
Unless you suggest we ban people with annoying laughs, too. Then I might agree:-D
Essentially, the government will have to depend upon the civilian police forces as their primary combatants against an anti-government insurrection.
Wow, that actually raises an even better point that should have been totally obvious, but I missed. Not all state governments are necessarily going to get on the bandwagon if the Federal government actually gets directly nasty, leaving state-level enforcement able to defend the state against the federal government.
(Assuming it's the federal government turning in on its people)
However, a civil war is more likely to be between big portions of the nation, and whatever chunks of the military they can co-opt.
Yes - a very large number of people miss that point. If there's a civil war, some of the military is going to defect, and probably bring along alot of training, knowledge, experience, and hopefully very expensive weapons.
It's not "the people" vs "the army". It's just people-vs-people.
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Communicating with your kids via the "do as I say or I will bash you again" method only teaches them to fear and avoid you.
It does also create a near-pavlovian response to "bad" things.
That said, I don't believe in violence as a form of teaching, and I'm certainly going to explain to my children (2 so far:) why things are dangerous and should be left alone.
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Simple - if you did it, you might be hurt by the 'ray - but you will be hurt by your Dad. Kids don't believe in death (like adults do, anyway) but they know a good smacking:)
We can't take it back now, we've arlready sent it out in the "Arecibo message". We're going to like pretty silly to the aliens in the m13 cluster. So are we going to have to resend that signal, saying "Whoops our bad, its eight not nine planets....no really, we do know how to count."
No, it's a plausible deniability thing. If they're good aliens, they come here, we explain that we were very primitive but have since learned to count.
If they're bad aliens, we say "What? We only have eight planets. This isn't the solar system you're looking for. Move along...":)
Any large crime against someone on the Aussie mainland would get you extradition.
Bhahhahaha, I doubt it. Our government apparently has no ability to actually talk to other nations... (at least, when it's our citizens overseas they can't;)
Apparently a lot of people block @microsoft.com entirely.
More likely, a lot of people have poorly-configured spam filters.
I'm not kidding. We send out lots of email (web forum stuff, email newsletters, etc) and a huge amount of that gets silently dropped or put in Junk folders.
Oh, I'm fully aware of that; the first thing I did when I got OS X was install the dev tools:). It's just a shame that on the occasion I want to use OSX, half of the apps I want to run, don't.
the EGA days and 5.25" floppies were days when not too many people had CD readers. The OP never says when he bought it (just "I once..."), so it may not have been 20 years ago.
Assuming it was more recently, CDs:
* Are cheap to mass-manufacture
* Have comparably low failure rates
* Are more reliable
* Are more likely to be supported (and working) on a random PC.
(I can't count the number of 5 1/4 drives I've killed over the years, and I can't think of one CD drive I've killed).
Now, as children get cell phones, over-protective parents will flip out whenever the "battery dies".
I had that a couple of times in class at uni, since I turned my phone of. Mothers, eh?;)
(Then again, I have regular scheduled meetings at work, same time every week for ~2 years, and my wife still tries to ring me during them, and then asks why I didn't answer:-)
I have a three-year-old iBook with OS X 10.2. I love(d*) it, and 10.2 worked well. Unfortunately, there is a growing number of apps that simply don't support 10.2 any more. I wanted a new version of MPlayer OSX recently - nope. Skype? Nope.
I'm not going to say I have a problem with Apple's method - if I used OS X much (I primarily use Linux on it) I'd jump out and buy a newer OS X, no problems. It just sucks that support for a platform is dropped so rapidly by ISVs - who would think of dropping support for even Win2k, let alone XP or an OS even newer?
At least in Linux-Land, the upgrades are always free;)
(* G3/800MHz iBook - currently getting its fifth logic board installed)
>> The problem with this, and why the earlier poster was correct when he said technology will always fail to protect anyone from terror, is that the single most deadly weapon known to man is the human mind.
> Great, now they're going to prevent us from taking those on planes.
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People should be able to IM at work?
We allow it here (20 people, so there's no real management issue).
It works well, we use MSN and Jabber between employees, and out to associates/clients/friends/family.
Personally, I've always been of the opinion that if an employee is spending too much time on IM, then it's time to talk to the employee, not block access for everyone.
I wasn't being rhetorical, that was my point :P
The poster above was saying that we had 'learned to live' with terrorism, and that without the US's support, Australia would lose its independence to a terrorist faction.
I think it's hard to say that the US has been protecting Australia from terrorists/invaders for 60+ years... it's not like it was the US that won at Kokoda - we're capable of fighting for ourselves when we need to.
The US was attacked by terrorists. Historically, we don't get attacked by terrorists very often and guess what -- we don't like it. The rest of the world has become accustomed to terrorism -- learned to live with it. I guarantee we will never be content with frequent terrorism. How you can be is beyond me, but hey -- enjoy your outback. Alternatively, you can do something about it. Like Americans do.
When was the last time there was an attack on Australian soil? When was the last time someone tried to invade Australia?
I would hope that if Australia was attacked, we wouldn't lash out on incomplete information and invade unrelated countries. (I wouldn't be so sure, given who is in power right now, but still). I'm not saying you should like it - you shouldn't. You should do everything you can to hunt down those responsible without placing unreasonable demands on others. That isn't unfair, it's what the US democracy was founded for.
This is one of the times I wish there was a +6 mod.
You are confusing behavior with a condition. One is voluntary, the other is not.
Almost all children are noisy, it's almost a fact of their existence. There's nothing the child can do about it, and there's (frequently) not much the parent can do, either.
While there are certainly times when a parent can intervene, a (for instance) six month old baby does not understand 'quiet'. If a parent is neglectful of their children's behaviour, that's another matter, but it's not always the way.
I'm sure they did. At 720x480 with 16bpp. Why would anyone need more resolution? ;-)
:)
PAL
The test was to implement a small web server (GET/HEAD commands basically) in C++ using *no external libraries of any kind
No libc or anything??
Why not? If someone does, why should people with kids care? Why the protests? How about just accepting it and not going? After all, the restraunt owner can keep out whoever he wants.
;)
;), but it's not unrealistic in most places to accept some noise from children.
:-D
Right. Let's ban disabled people too, because those damn wheelchairs are so huge! I mean, they take up all the gap between tables and it's difficult to walk around them. (Especially with a pram
Seriously though, whenever I go to a restaurant I do my best to keep my two kids quiet; that said there's no 100% way to guarantee that they won't be naughty at least once in the 40 minutes we might be there. I don't take them anywhere incredibly up-market (not that I could afford to
Unless you suggest we ban people with annoying laughs, too. Then I might agree
Essentially, the government will have to depend upon the civilian police forces as their primary combatants against an anti-government insurrection.
Wow, that actually raises an even better point that should have been totally obvious, but I missed. Not all state governments are necessarily going to get on the bandwagon if the Federal government actually gets directly nasty, leaving state-level enforcement able to defend the state against the federal government.
(Assuming it's the federal government turning in on its people)
I'm still going to stick to the school of thought that says your asking for trouble if you're compressing your files.
... :)
Sure, you do that. In the meantime, I'll continue using JPEGs, MP3s, ODF,
However, a civil war is more likely to be between big portions of the nation, and whatever chunks of the military they can co-opt.
Yes - a very large number of people miss that point. If there's a civil war, some of the military is going to defect, and probably bring along alot of training, knowledge, experience, and hopefully very expensive weapons.
It's not "the people" vs "the army". It's just people-vs-people.
Communicating with your kids via the "do as I say or I will bash you again" method only teaches them to fear and avoid you.
:) why things are dangerous and should be left alone.
It does also create a near-pavlovian response to "bad" things.
That said, I don't believe in violence as a form of teaching, and I'm certainly going to explain to my children (2 so far
Simple - if you did it, you might be hurt by the 'ray - but you will be hurt by your Dad. Kids don't believe in death (like adults do, anyway) but they know a good smacking :)
We can't take it back now, we've arlready sent it out in the "Arecibo message". We're going to like pretty silly to the aliens in the m13 cluster. So are we going to have to resend that signal, saying "Whoops our bad, its eight not nine planets....no really, we do know how to count."
:)
No, it's a plausible deniability thing. If they're good aliens, they come here, we explain that we were very primitive but have since learned to count.
If they're bad aliens, we say "What? We only have eight planets. This isn't the solar system you're looking for. Move along..."
100's? 1000's? Maybe even 10000's?
Including me... two.
Any large crime against someone on the Aussie mainland would get you extradition.
;)
Bhahhahaha, I doubt it. Our government apparently has no ability to actually talk to other nations... (at least, when it's our citizens overseas they can't
Apparently a lot of people block @microsoft.com entirely.
More likely, a lot of people have poorly-configured spam filters.
I'm not kidding. We send out lots of email (web forum stuff, email newsletters, etc) and a huge amount of that gets silently dropped or put in Junk folders.
If you get S1-S7, grab S8 as well. It's not going to cost you *that* much more, and the end of S8 ties up enough to justify it IMHO.
Oh, I'm fully aware of that; the first thing I did when I got OS X was install the dev tools :). It's just a shame that on the occasion I want to use OSX, half of the apps I want to run, don't.
was carrying a note mentioning Al Qaeda (in two languages)
Probably a note asking for an Asimov book (or translated copy thereof)!
the EGA days and 5.25" floppies were days when not too many people had CD readers.
The OP never says when he bought it (just "I once..."), so it may not have been 20 years ago.
Assuming it was more recently, CDs:
* Are cheap to mass-manufacture
* Have comparably low failure rates
* Are more reliable
* Are more likely to be supported (and working) on a random PC.
(I can't count the number of 5 1/4 drives I've killed over the years, and I can't think of one CD drive I've killed).
Now, as children get cell phones, over-protective parents will flip out whenever the "battery dies".
;)
:-)
I had that a couple of times in class at uni, since I turned my phone of. Mothers, eh?
(Then again, I have regular scheduled meetings at work, same time every week for ~2 years, and my wife still tries to ring me during them, and then asks why I didn't answer
Nobody forced me to buy any OS X upgrades
;)
I have a three-year-old iBook with OS X 10.2. I love(d*) it, and 10.2 worked well. Unfortunately, there is a growing number of apps that simply don't support 10.2 any more. I wanted a new version of MPlayer OSX recently - nope. Skype? Nope.
I'm not going to say I have a problem with Apple's method - if I used OS X much (I primarily use Linux on it) I'd jump out and buy a newer OS X, no problems. It just sucks that support for a platform is dropped so rapidly by ISVs - who would think of dropping support for even Win2k, let alone XP or an OS even newer?
At least in Linux-Land, the upgrades are always free
(* G3/800MHz iBook - currently getting its fifth logic board installed)
>> The problem with this, and why the earlier poster was correct when he said technology will always fail to protect anyone from terror, is that the single most deadly weapon known to man is the human mind.
> Great, now they're going to prevent us from taking those on planes.
Hey, at least they're setting the example...
"Is it.. is it getting hot in here, or is it just me?"
..silence
"Houston calling Columbia, come in Columbia."
Ulla!