I never said MS was a client of Hype Council. Care to point out where I said they were? I just used them as an example of companies that shill for pay. As for PA being an expose, I only linked to them because thats where I recently saw someone talking about it. If you don't like PA then find the information your self, it exists.
The proof MS did this is, for one example, the "grass roots" letters to the editors at major papers (back when the DOJ trial was still going on) and these were traced back not to concerned citizens calling attention to a injustice being visited on a company that make a product they use, but to a marketing company that was paid by Microsoft to create the appearance of that. Letters to state reps supposedly from concerned citizens were also paid for by MS, all these were urging the states to drop any case against MS as they were being unfairly persecuted by the man.
Have you tried Gunman Chronicles? One of the later weapons has effects that depend on how you set the levels of base, acid and neutrality. I don't know how scientifically accurate it was, but I seem to remember some of the effects were predictable based on what I remember from chemistry class.
"Some of the DVDs we own are from franchises the kids profess to like but they didn't get a lot of repeat play. In fact, I've never even gotten past the first disc in the Samurai Jack box set..."
Thats a real shame because there is some really well done work throughout that show.
I believe that some people do not realize they are doing the behavior you describe or don't understand how it is affecting those around them.
It's easy to think "Hey this person is wrong, I know the right answer and if I correct them I will be helping them not be wrong anymore". Sometimes people do this and mean well but either the recipient doesn't see it that way, or the person doing the correcting does it so poorly or with so little empathy for the other person that they do more harm then good. I've seen it get to the point where it harms every interaction between those two people, because the one who thinks they are helping does not notice that the one they "helped" is always defensive of everything they state and will now doggedly stick with any idea or wrong information. The helper is sometimes actually wondering "Why would this person want to be wrong, they should be happy I corrected them on [insert subject]."
I had a bit of trouble trying to describe what I see in a way that I think makes sense.
Knowing the types of people who seem to get into prosecutors offices (remember the big town wide witch hunts over child molestation) I suspect they would wait till said teen hits 18 and then charge them with all the child porn laws they can think of him violating.
"The reason is that a vast majority of plants, unless you've bought premium seed, grow up to look like a tomato plant without tomatoes--all stem and leaves."
When I was a teenager that was all you needed. Kids these days....
They will imprison both. Though IMO there is a certain amount of what you call "stone age role patterning" involved.
When an underage guy scores with an older woman, he is generally viewed in a positive light for "getting some" while the woman is "a horrible monster preying on children". This is usually also the case for an older man and a under age woman, but the woman is also viewed in a negative light. Often when the ages are close the woman is ignored and the male (if the older) is treated as harshly as the adults above.
Now take this with a lot of sodium chloride as it's just what I have seen around me in my life and with some news stories. I'm sure somewhere there is a better source for the information you are asking about.
Where does fiction, entirely made up, not based on real people/images/stories porn fall in this. If you buy an Ebook of Lolita and burn it to CD with your other Ebooks are you a child pornographer? What if it is a drawing/movie/text involving teenagers under the age of 18 (good ol coming of age story for instance)?
AFAIK the laws created to deal with child molestation (really we didn't need new laws, we need to enforce ones for rape,kidnapping,harm to a minor, ect) treat all of this the same due to vague and poor wording.
I think why a lot of people are upset over Wash is that he was the person who was fairly happy and upbeat while not being out of touch with reality. IMO he was the person that the average viewer could most identify with. Firefly without him would be like someone took my sunshine away. It would exist but it would lack what his character gave to the mix.
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I never felt anything but spite towards Shodan. What was it you loved about her?
Great game. Fucking Kinkos told me "we cant print this out on card stock because it's copyrighted".
Had to waste nearly $40 on color laser print outs and then backing inside holders.
I tried to point out that all things become copyrighted the moment they are created and as such I cant see how they do any business at all.
Makes me want to create some work of art, go in, get told that again, and sue the bastards.
I never said MS was a client of Hype Council. Care to point out where I said they were? I just used them as an example of companies that shill for pay. As for PA being an expose, I only linked to them because thats where I recently saw someone talking about it. If you don't like PA then find the information your self, it exists.
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The proof MS did this is, for one example, the "grass roots" letters to the editors at major papers (back when the DOJ trial was still going on) and these were traced back not to concerned citizens calling attention to a injustice being visited on a company that make a product they use, but to a marketing company that was paid by Microsoft to create the appearance of that. Letters to state reps supposedly from concerned citizens were also paid for by MS, all these were urging the states to drop any case against MS as they were being unfairly persecuted by the man.
Check out the DOJ website and what it has to say about it. http://www.usdoj.gov/atr/cases/ms_tuncom/major/mt
Have you tried Gunman Chronicles? One of the later weapons has effects that depend on how you set the levels of base, acid and neutrality. I don't know how scientifically accurate it was, but I seem to remember some of the effects were predictable based on what I remember from chemistry class.
Check out Mind Rover.
If you played Omega (from Origin Systems) back in the day you will be in for a treat.
Google for "shilling" or "Hype Council" Or try this article.
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Your one of them aren't you!
Joke alert for the clueless, that last bit was meant as humor.
I thought all the existing lines were found to be contaminated.
Be seeing you.
I'm more bothered by his creepy uncle, child molester vibe then the sith vibe.
He clearly kept rolling a 6 on the wild die until he got above 20 as a result did not critically injure himself using it.
I though you emerge Gentoo, damn, no wonder I cant get Debian to install gnucash.
"Some of the DVDs we own are from franchises the kids profess to like but they didn't get a lot of repeat play. In fact, I've never even gotten past the first disc in the Samurai Jack box set..."
Thats a real shame because there is some really well done work throughout that show.
Thats "Scooby-Dooby-Doo!"
That sounds just like the plot of "The Brave Little Toaster: A Bedtime Story for Small Appliances".
Read the book.
Good thing he was not a pediatrician.
I believe that some people do not realize they are doing the behavior you describe or don't understand how it is affecting those around them.
It's easy to think "Hey this person is wrong, I know the right answer and if I correct them I will be helping them not be wrong anymore". Sometimes people do this and mean well but either the recipient doesn't see it that way, or the person doing the correcting does it so poorly or with so little empathy for the other person that they do more harm then good. I've seen it get to the point where it harms every interaction between those two people, because the one who thinks they are helping does not notice that the one they "helped" is always defensive of everything they state and will now doggedly stick with any idea or wrong information. The helper is sometimes actually wondering "Why would this person want to be wrong, they should be happy I corrected them on [insert subject]."
I had a bit of trouble trying to describe what I see in a way that I think makes sense.
Knowing the types of people who seem to get into prosecutors offices (remember the big town wide witch hunts over child molestation) I suspect they would wait till said teen hits 18 and then charge them with all the child porn laws they can think of him violating.
"The reason is that a vast majority of plants, unless you've bought premium seed, grow up to look like a tomato plant without tomatoes--all stem and leaves."
When I was a teenager that was all you needed. Kids these days....
They will imprison both. Though IMO there is a certain amount of what you call "stone age role patterning" involved.
When an underage guy scores with an older woman, he is generally viewed in a positive light for "getting some" while the woman is "a horrible monster preying on children". This is usually also the case for an older man and a under age woman, but the woman is also viewed in a negative light. Often when the ages are close the woman is ignored and the male (if the older) is treated as harshly as the adults above.
Now take this with a lot of sodium chloride as it's just what I have seen around me in my life and with some news stories. I'm sure somewhere there is a better source for the information you are asking about.
Where does fiction, entirely made up, not based on real people/images/stories porn fall in this. If you buy an Ebook of Lolita and burn it to CD with your other Ebooks are you a child pornographer? What if it is a drawing/movie/text involving teenagers under the age of 18 (good ol coming of age story for instance)?
AFAIK the laws created to deal with child molestation (really we didn't need new laws, we need to enforce ones for rape,kidnapping,harm to a minor, ect) treat all of this the same due to vague and poor wording.
This is one of those "Only Sith deal in absolutes." things isn't it?
I agree that users are evil as well, just that if they developed DRM that obeyed copyright law, the users would use that.
The last machine I installed DirectX on the DirectX website ran the same authenticity thingy that MS update runs.
Those who develop DRM with no ability for it to expire with copyright are EVIL.
I think why a lot of people are upset over Wash is that he was the person who was fairly happy and upbeat while not being out of touch with reality. IMO he was the person that the average viewer could most identify with. Firefly without him would be like someone took my sunshine away. It would exist but it would lack what his character gave to the mix.