Yes...although I don't know what the situation the other guy is in. I agree. It's the whiners who didn't read or didn't care what the GPL said and then used GPL code in their software who are bitching left and right.
"Does that include requiring you to GPL your own software if a small portion of it used a GPL'ed library?"
Yes. You chose to the the GPL'd libary and accept it's license. Your fault.
"Funny, that's not my definition of "freedom" either. It's my code, the GPL portion is a small bit and doesn't represent what the software is about (major funtionality) in the slightest."
It does not matter what your definition is. If you accepted using GPL'd software using their license then you effectively agreed with them. That's the Law.
"GPL is the same thing as proprietary (in terms of restriction) just on the opposite end of the spectrum. LGPL and BSD like licenses carry less "political"-ness."
So what? Not your license. You didn't write it. You are not responsible for it. The FSF has a political agenda. They don't hide it. They have ideas about how things should be and are using licenses to further that goal. In my opinion it's perfectly legitimate.
"Yes, I will use something else, something that allows me to choose how I re-distribute my software, thanks. Something that doesn't force me to agree with someone else's politics."
Good for YOU! You've come to realize that you HAD COMPLETE FREEDOM TO BEGIN WITH! Start walking with your eyes open from now on. Read the fine print and don't believe everything you hear.
The OSS movement and the Free software movements are two COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THINGS. The fact that one compliments the other is a bonus.
And yes they can prohibit anything they want at any time. It's their license and anybody who puts code under that license owns the right to change that license at any time for any reason.
If the OSS movement wants to stop using the GPL then they should what they want with THEIR software.
It's not enslavement if you voluntarily choose it.
Nobody is forcing you to modify GPL software with a gun to your head. Don't touch software that has licenses you can't agree with.
You never had the freedom to deviate from their license (any license) with their software (any author) to begin with. Except under the terms they've written.
Every software developer has freedom prior to using any software or choosing any license. The freedom to choose whatever license they want for THEIR code and the freedom to use software written by others or not.
If you don't like the GPL...don't use it. If you like the BSD license, use it.
If you don't like the fact that the GPL software you are using to develop your proprietary software has a GPL license then that is YOUR fault.
People who bitch about the GPL are the people that don't believe in the GPL and don't agree with the FSF's ideas. Duh. They get upset because they can't use GPL sofware like software under the BSD license.
It's not YOUR license. It's the FSF's license. They get to write it with whatever input they accept. It's not YOUR software you are using to develop whatever you are developing (if you didn't write it). The authors get to decide legally how you can use it. If it's the GPL and you don't like it? Too bad.
Freedom does not include the right to force somebody else to do your bidding. That's called enslavement.
I'll believe it's viability when I see people buying it.
Maybe I'm jaded..but why is it that every new cool tech that's announced is always at least 10 years away from deployment. Plus I never hear about that revolutionary tech that was announced 10 years ago...where is it?
NO..locks on the doors would NOT have prevented it.
My brother is an Airline Pilot. So I have some knowledge of this area. Anybody can walk in to the lavatory on either side of the doors and fire a gun through killing the pilots if need be. Also, the doors are not like they have in Israel where the door AND the bulkhead are bulletproof.
It's a luxury when you have the spare change (1st world nations) to even think about environmentalism.
When economies hit the trash I guarantee you the first things that get cut are "luxury" expenditures by governments.
If you want 1st world countries to change you will have to figure a way to do it in a way that keeps them on top. Otherwise they'll ignore you until you turn blue from holding your breath.
One more reason ISP's should use bittorrent cache systems. That way they can reduce overall bandwidth to Internet backbones by making sure the packets that CAN be swapped between users on their network is doing so instead of going to Hong Kong or Tel Aviv first (swap with NY and LA if you live in Hong Kong and Tel Aviv!).
But would that put them in violation of the law if the traffic is copyrighted?
Commonly truth is defined as the "correct" interpretation or meaning as defined by the person professing the "truth".
Facts with evidence is for the most part incontrovertible. That is unless you put your self-evident religious faith above the self-evident faith that what your eyes and ears are telling your brain is accurate.
Blizzard has been printing money at "Columbian Cartel" rates. They can afford the Mac because in the scheme of what it costs vs public relations of being a Mac supporter it's pocket change.
My jaded self believes that if Blizzard was not making such massive amounts of money they probably WOULDN'T support the Mac.
I liked Starcraft and will probably like Starcraft 2 like a lot of other people...but the hype surrounding it, dancing girls, thousands of people stuffed into a stadium to see it..seems more than a bit over the top and bizzare.
As someone who started their IT career as a mainframe operator in the early 90's, then moved on to UNIX/LINUX It would be very interesting to see if the cost savings actually pan out. Computers don't stop doing the job they are doing just because they get old. Besides, modern "mainframe" computers are all microprocessor based (no more cabinet sized processors) just like all other computers. OS/390 (or whatever IBM is calling nowadays Z...something?) is just about bulletproof.
I would of LOVED to be in on the powerpoint presentation that convinced NYSE that that dumping their current platform was THE thing to do. It must of been dynamite.
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Never take the bait of a Troll. It may TASTE good but in the end it's futile.
But aren't you only breaking the law only if you get caught, prosecuted and convicted? ;-0
It DOES read like he took a couple of hits off the crack pipe or popped a couple of amphetamines prior to writing up the article.
It does make you feel good reading it. Reading a nice blathering positive Linux review just feels good.
Yes...although I don't know what the situation the other guy is in. I agree. It's the whiners who didn't read or didn't care what the GPL said and then used GPL code in their software who are bitching left and right.
They are a bunch of selfish losers.
"Does that include requiring you to GPL your own software if a small portion of it used a GPL'ed library?"
Yes. You chose to the the GPL'd libary and accept it's license. Your fault.
"Funny, that's not my definition of "freedom" either. It's my code, the GPL portion is a small bit and doesn't represent what the software is about (major funtionality) in the slightest."
It does not matter what your definition is. If you accepted using GPL'd software using their license then you effectively agreed with them. That's the Law.
"GPL is the same thing as proprietary (in terms of restriction) just on the opposite end of the spectrum.
LGPL and BSD like licenses carry less "political"-ness."
So what? Not your license. You didn't write it. You are not responsible for it. The FSF has a political agenda. They don't hide it. They have ideas about how things should be and are using licenses to further that goal. In my opinion it's perfectly legitimate.
"Yes, I will use something else, something that allows me to choose how I re-distribute my software, thanks. Something that doesn't force me to agree with someone else's politics."
Good for YOU! You've come to realize that you HAD COMPLETE FREEDOM TO BEGIN WITH! Start walking with your eyes open from now on. Read the fine print and don't believe everything you hear.
The OSS movement and the Free software movements are two COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THINGS. The fact that one compliments the other is a bonus.
And yes they can prohibit anything they want at any time. It's their license and anybody who puts code under that license owns the right to change that license at any time for any reason.
If the OSS movement wants to stop using the GPL then they should what they want with THEIR software.
Yes...a better explanation than mine :)
It's not enslavement if you voluntarily choose it.
Nobody is forcing you to modify GPL software with a gun to your head. Don't touch software that has licenses you can't agree with.
You never had the freedom to deviate from their license (any license) with their software (any author) to begin with. Except under the terms they've written.
Every software developer has freedom prior to using any software or choosing any license. The freedom to choose whatever license they want for THEIR code and the freedom to use software written by others or not.
If you don't like the GPL...don't use it. If you like the BSD license, use it.
If you don't like the fact that the GPL software you are using to develop your proprietary software has a GPL license then that is YOUR fault.
People who bitch about the GPL are the people that don't believe in the GPL and don't agree with the FSF's ideas. Duh. They get upset because they can't use GPL sofware like software under the BSD license.
It's not YOUR license. It's the FSF's license. They get to write it with whatever input they accept. It's not YOUR software you are using to develop whatever you are developing (if you didn't write it). The authors get to decide legally how you can use it. If it's the GPL and you don't like it? Too bad.
Freedom does not include the right to force somebody else to do your bidding. That's called enslavement.
This is all find and good. Yea..new technology!
I'll believe it's viability when I see people buying it.
Maybe I'm jaded..but why is it that every new cool tech that's announced is always at least 10 years away from deployment. Plus I never hear about that revolutionary tech that was announced 10 years ago...where is it?
And it will probably require ANOTHER slot type and force me to upgrade my motherboard yet AGAIN!
Geeze...please let me keep my motherboard for 6 months!
NO..locks on the doors would NOT have prevented it.
My brother is an Airline Pilot. So I have some knowledge of this area. Anybody can walk in to the lavatory on either side of the doors and fire a gun through killing the pilots if need be. Also, the doors are not like they have in Israel where the door AND the bulkhead are bulletproof.
When you dig your own ditch you have to be careful not to fall in. NOVELL should of known better.
It's a luxury when you have the spare change (1st world nations) to even think about environmentalism.
When economies hit the trash I guarantee you the first things that get cut are "luxury" expenditures by governments.
If you want 1st world countries to change you will have to figure a way to do it in a way that keeps them on top. Otherwise they'll ignore you until you turn blue from holding your breath.
One more reason ISP's should use bittorrent cache systems. That way they can reduce overall bandwidth to Internet backbones by making sure the packets that CAN be swapped between users on their network is doing so instead of going to Hong Kong or Tel Aviv first (swap with NY and LA if you live in Hong Kong and Tel Aviv!).
But would that put them in violation of the law if the traffic is copyrighted?
I'd recommend using some other word than "Truth" when talking about these subjects. Use "Facts backed up by evidence" instead.
Truth is a loaded word that not even philosophers can agree on.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truth
Commonly truth is defined as the "correct" interpretation or meaning as defined by the person professing the "truth".
Facts with evidence is for the most part incontrovertible. That is unless you put your self-evident religious faith above the self-evident faith that what your eyes and ears are telling your brain is accurate.
Blizzard has been printing money at "Columbian Cartel" rates. They can afford the Mac because in the scheme of what it costs vs public relations of being a Mac supporter it's pocket change.
My jaded self believes that if Blizzard was not making such massive amounts of money they probably WOULDN'T support the Mac.
Right on! Stick it to em! Show em who is "da man!"
On the serious side I can't see a downside for us. As Clear Channel owns just about everything.
It's no more stupid than having "Tide" on a racecar.
And don't tell me people who watch racing think..."gee, That guy was fast! I'm gunna go out and buy some Tide to support him". I don't believe it.
Why not? Seeing the Tux on TV is cool because seeing the Tux on TV is cool.
Because...that's why!
I liked Starcraft and will probably like Starcraft 2 like a lot of other people...but the hype surrounding it, dancing girls, thousands of people stuffed into a stadium to see it..seems more than a bit over the top and bizzare.
It's a game, not the answer to forgoing a life.
blip.tv is already there. Plus the quality (video) is better.
OS/360? What the heck are you running (hardware)? OS/360 is circa 1960's. I didn't think there was any native OS/360 hardware left.
As someone who started their IT career as a mainframe operator in the early 90's, then moved on to UNIX/LINUX It would be very interesting to see if the cost savings actually pan out. Computers don't stop doing the job they are doing just because they get old. Besides, modern "mainframe" computers are all microprocessor based (no more cabinet sized processors) just like all other computers. OS/390 (or whatever IBM is calling nowadays Z...something?) is just about bulletproof.
I would of LOVED to be in on the powerpoint presentation that convinced NYSE that that dumping their current platform was THE thing to do. It must of been dynamite.
Because you are discriminating against hard working software authors you will be guilty of a HATE crime and sentenced to 20 years.
Evidence of THINKING about pirating software will get you at least 10 in the slammer.