Internet2 is also fully multicast enabled (up to the border router of the each institution). I've always thought it would be cool to somehow build in an option into peer to peer software to multicast software.
I imagine something like the following....
1. You announce the availability of a file
2. Other peers respond saying they would like it.
3. After pre-determined amount of time, if a threshold of users have responded that they want the file. Then send back another announcement that a multicast of the file will commence in some short time period (like 5 min).
4. Let it rip!
I'm sure there would be other problems to think about, like what happens if you drop packets....but it would still be cool.
I'm on an Internet2 multicast enabled organization, and as a test I multcasted a DVD LIVE using VLC to a friend on the other side of the world. It was really cool!
Has it ever occured to you NOT to tell them it's not Windows? That's what I did with a friend of my mother's. I set everthing up so it was easy.. the Icon for Open Office said "Start Word Processor".....Replaced the Mozilla Icon with Netscape Icon....ect..
She's been using it for months...with no complaint. If they are igonrant enough to not know about LINUX...they are igorant enough not to understand why they need to run Windows....or even what windows IS! She wanted to add a digital camera to the system....It works without a hitch (MEPIS works great as a newbie distro!!)
So I was like EVERYBODY else. I hated Realone...I hated the ads...I hated the fact that it felt like they were trying to "sneak spyware" onto my computer.
So I tried Real 10. So far...no crashes, and if you disable the browser feature it's JUST AS FAST AS REAL 8...and for any of you that ACTUALLY have an open mind and want to try it, here is information from the Helix community forums on how to optimize Real 10.
> > > I work for RealNetworks, and I am the first to admit RealPlayer is not my favorite media player. For video, Media Player Classic (MPC) is, and yes, I use MPC to play my RV9-EHQ aka RV10 content. > > Previous RealPlayers have been pretty impolite to put it mildly, and along with so many other computer users, I have been ticked off by its behaviour in many ways. It has been possible to make it well mannered, but it has included being forced to delete certain files to prevent that annoying Message Center. However, it has not been spyware in a long time, even though one old player did send back some usage information. That's long gone, but it's hard to be forgiven for that mistake. > > Considering how past players have created such a bad reputation, this post is probably futile, but anyway... Thanks to those few positive posts though, especially for the Linux and OS X players. It is nice to see someone taking the time to give it a another chance. > > This RealPlayer 10 is better than before, it is fast, small, and does not run +10MB services in the background, like one well known example, name withheld. However, this post is not really about performance, even though a lot could be said about improvements in this area. More importantly in this discussion, it is also better in terms of its behaviour, albeit less better than me, many of my co-workers, and all of you, had hoped for. > > Here's what you need to do when installing: > > * Choose Custom Install > * Uncheck all the boxes you don't like for stuff on the desktop and quicklaunch bar. There is nothing hidden by a scroll bar, at least not with my computer screen size. > * Check only the media types you want it to play. This is the only time you will be asked this, it will never try to take back any media types. Now, is this really so bad compared to other software, in regards to media types? It's not as polite as MPC, but I have other media players which take over media types, and there is not even an option to customize this.. > * Start RealPlayer, you may have to create an account. Everybody hates this, and wish it would go way. Agreed, but RealNetworks has to make money somehow, and the number of users is a needed measure to document. So use fake information if you like. > * Then go to Tools->Preferences->Automatic Services, Click Configure Message Center, then uncheck "Check for new messages". Click OK on the "warning" that comes up. Now you will never be bothered by the Message Center. In previous versions, you could not disable the Message Center completely, without deleting certain files. Minor improvement, it's still opt-out, but at least it's possible. Check or uncheck Auto-update in its sub-menu as well. > * Go to Tools->Preferences->General and set On startup display to "Player only". That way, no browser, and it starts much quicker. > > So to summarize, a few clicks are needed to opt-out, you have to "sign in" the first time. Yes, somewhat annoying, but that's about it. It could have been better, but compared to many other examples, it's not that terrible. Since it has been so very bad in the past though, it clearly should have changed more to make a shining example, but since it is RealNetworks' main vehicle for generating revenue, there is a lot of nervousness about changing things too quickly. > > Download the free RealPlayer 10 Beta here, with no re-direction or sales tricks: > > http://www.real.com/freeplayer/?rppr=slashdot [real.com] > > A
If you changed bittorrent to use SSL like encryption and made the key exchange EXACTLY like SSH and used port 22, would packet shapers at universities be able to constrict it without killing SSH?
The AMIGA's Real Legacy.....
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The REAL legacy of the Amiga OS and its platform is NOT the hardware or software. It's the PEOPLE! It's programmers and users and enthusiasts!
Many people in the Open Source/LINUX/BSD community came out of the Amiga world. Learned their programming skills and attitudes from hacking the Amiga. I'm sure what those people learned have had an effect on the LINUX and BSD worlds. And of course there is one important person we should never forget who was a fan/programmer of the Amiga...
Linus Torvalds
Would LINUX exist or how would it of evolved differently if Linus had learned to program on DOS or a Mac?
What about looking at what happens to man made objects that have been sitting on Mars for extended periods of time. Is there any value in seeing what condition the Viking landers are in.
I would'nt make it a primary science mission, but if the opportunity arose where some future science mission could get a look at Viking would it be of any use?
Interesting...That means we could possibly come back with a another rover that not only could look for life, but could possibly "repair/rejuvinate" the current rover by 'sweeping" the dust off of the solar panels? I would imagine just leaving the rover would be interesting to engineers and scientists to see what happens to a man made object that sits out in the open for extended periods of time....good information if you want to build stuff on Mars.
Anybody out there like to comment? Is it a possibility? Could we come back with another rover and get Opportunity working again after it runs out of juice?
It's also available via Internet2/Mutlticast advertised via SAP. If you have an I2+Multicast feed you can view it with the VideoLan client or Quicktime if you have the SDP information.
NASA does not put it on their page (I emailed them asking them to), but if you are on an Internet2 enabled + multicast enabled network (college/university) it is available via MPEG1 multicast feed.
You can view it with Quicktime, Real 9 (real 10 crashes with SDP), VideoLan and CISCO IP/TV.
To view it on Videolan start the player with
--extraint SAP
and look at the playlist....it can take up to 10 min before you'll see the NASA listing.
If anybody wants the sdp file I'll try and find a way of posting it. I tried to...but the slashdot forum filters killed my post!
Well..at least Steam will be well de-bugged and working correctly by the time it comes out. With the way steam was rolled out, nobody would of been able to download Half-Life 2 even if did come out.
Wil....if you are out there under some slashdot alias and are reading my post, next time you talk to Rick Berman, slide the idea of moving to a mini-series format!
Hmm +5...Must of been the skim milk in the Hot chocolate this morning!
It also just occurred to me that by going to a mini-series format, it might be easier to get cast members from STTNG and DS9 to come back for interesting stories.
It just occurred to me to ask the question of why Enterprise needs to be on every week for each new season? Why not go with a mini-series every year. The hype increases, there is more latitude to do something different and there is less danger of worrying about ratings.
There is a complete Saturn V indoors in a facility at the Kennedy Space center. Its in great shape (at least from the outside) and totally protected from the weather. Its in a museum facility that anybody can see.
Damn it, that's somewhere outside of Phoenix!
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Somebody prove to me that they are not somewhere in West Texas or Arizona and they just put red filter on the lense. I bet there's some dude JUST outside of view...laughing is ass off!
I'm NOT saying I disagree with you or that polticial reasons were the reasons why RTG's were not used but do you have any authoritative information that this was the reason why RTG's were not used? I'd like to actually confirm that was the reason rather than just assume it.
I'd prefer not to get all angry about something until I'm sure that was what actually happened.
Internet2 is also fully multicast enabled (up to the border router of the each institution). I've always thought it would be cool to somehow build in an option into peer to peer software to multicast software.
I imagine something like the following....
1. You announce the availability of a file
2. Other peers respond saying they would like it.
3. After pre-determined amount of time, if a threshold of users have responded that they want the file. Then send back another announcement that a multicast of the file will commence in some short time period (like 5 min).
4. Let it rip!
I'm sure there would be other problems to think about, like what happens if you drop packets....but it would still be cool.
I'm on an Internet2 multicast enabled organization, and as a test I multcasted a DVD LIVE using VLC to a friend on the other side of the world. It was really cool!
Damn....the MS update site is so overloaded....can anybody provide a bittorrent to the patch files?!
REALLY!
Has it ever occured to you NOT to tell them it's not Windows? That's what I did with a friend of my mother's. I set everthing up so it was easy.. the Icon for Open Office said "Start Word Processor".....Replaced the Mozilla Icon with Netscape Icon....ect..
She's been using it for months...with no complaint. If they are igonrant enough to not know about LINUX...they are igorant enough not to understand why they need to run Windows....or even what windows IS! She wanted to add a digital camera to the system....It works without a hitch (MEPIS works great as a newbie distro!!)
So I was like EVERYBODY else. I hated Realone...I hated the ads...I hated the fact that it felt like they were trying to "sneak spyware" onto my computer.
So I tried Real 10. So far...no crashes, and if you disable the browser feature it's JUST AS FAST AS REAL 8...and for any of you that ACTUALLY have an open mind and want to try it, here is information from the Helix community forums on how to optimize Real 10.
>
>
> I work for RealNetworks, and I am the first to admit RealPlayer is not my favorite media player. For video, Media Player Classic (MPC) is, and yes, I use MPC to play my RV9-EHQ aka RV10 content.
>
> Previous RealPlayers have been pretty impolite to put it mildly, and along with so many other computer users, I have been ticked off by its behaviour in many ways. It has been possible to make it well mannered, but it has included being forced to delete certain files to prevent that annoying Message Center. However, it has not been spyware in a long time, even though one old player did send back some usage information. That's long gone, but it's hard to be forgiven for that mistake.
>
> Considering how past players have created such a bad reputation, this post is probably futile, but anyway... Thanks to those few positive posts though, especially for the Linux and OS X players. It is nice to see someone taking the time to give it a another chance.
>
> This RealPlayer 10 is better than before, it is fast, small, and does not run +10MB services in the background, like one well known example, name withheld. However, this post is not really about performance, even though a lot could be said about improvements in this area. More importantly in this discussion, it is also better in terms of its behaviour, albeit less better than me, many of my co-workers, and all of you, had hoped for.
>
> Here's what you need to do when installing:
>
> * Choose Custom Install
> * Uncheck all the boxes you don't like for stuff on the desktop and quicklaunch bar. There is nothing hidden by a scroll bar, at least not with my computer screen size.
> * Check only the media types you want it to play. This is the only time you will be asked this, it will never try to take back any media types. Now, is this really so bad compared to other software, in regards to media types? It's not as polite as MPC, but I have other media players which take over media types, and there is not even an option to customize this..
> * Start RealPlayer, you may have to create an account. Everybody hates this, and wish it would go way. Agreed, but RealNetworks has to make money somehow, and the number of users is a needed measure to document. So use fake information if you like.
> * Then go to Tools->Preferences->Automatic Services, Click Configure Message Center, then uncheck "Check for new messages". Click OK on the "warning" that comes up. Now you will never be bothered by the Message Center. In previous versions, you could not disable the Message Center completely, without deleting certain files. Minor improvement, it's still opt-out, but at least it's possible. Check or uncheck Auto-update in its sub-menu as well.
> * Go to Tools->Preferences->General and set On startup display to "Player only". That way, no browser, and it starts much quicker.
>
> So to summarize, a few clicks are needed to opt-out, you have to "sign in" the first time. Yes, somewhat annoying, but that's about it. It could have been better, but compared to many other examples, it's not that terrible. Since it has been so very bad in the past though, it clearly should have changed more to make a shining example, but since it is RealNetworks' main vehicle for generating revenue, there is a lot of nervousness about changing things too quickly.
>
> Download the free RealPlayer 10 Beta here, with no re-direction or sales tricks:
>
> http://www.real.com/freeplayer/?rppr=slashdot [real.com]
>
> A
So you don't allow outbound access via SSH? Or you restrict it to some arbitrary bandwidth value?
How do you differentiate from traffic that is good vs traffic that is bad?
I wonder....
If you changed bittorrent to use SSL like encryption and made the key exchange EXACTLY like SSH and used port 22, would packet shapers at universities be able to constrict it without killing SSH?
TROLL!!! It's a Joke!
Man..no humor here!
The REAL legacy of the Amiga OS and its platform is NOT the hardware or software. It's the PEOPLE! It's programmers and users and enthusiasts!
Many people in the Open Source/LINUX/BSD community came out of the Amiga world. Learned their programming skills and attitudes from hacking the Amiga. I'm sure what those people learned have had an effect on the LINUX and BSD worlds. And of course there is one important person we should never forget who was a fan/programmer of the Amiga...
Linus Torvalds
Would LINUX exist or how would it of evolved differently if Linus had learned to program on DOS or a Mac?
The Amiga isn't Dead its UNDEAD.....
:)
and this happens at the same time as "Dawn of the Dead" released in theaters? Coincidence?
Dude...chill out...drink decaff
The "we" was not in reference to anybody in particular.
What about looking at what happens to man made objects that have been sitting on Mars for extended periods of time. Is there any value in seeing what condition the Viking landers are in.
I would'nt make it a primary science mission, but if the opportunity arose where some future science mission could get a look at Viking would it be of any use?
Interesting...That means we could possibly come back with a another rover that not only could look for life, but could possibly "repair/rejuvinate" the current rover by 'sweeping" the dust off of the solar panels? I would imagine just leaving the rover would be interesting to engineers and scientists to see what happens to a man made object that sits out in the open for extended periods of time....good information if you want to build stuff on Mars.
Anybody out there like to comment? Is it a possibility? Could we come back with another rover and get Opportunity working again after it runs out of juice?
1. Apple copies it into OSX
:)
2. Microsoft Copies Apples Implementation
3. Apple Sues Microsoft
4. PARC is clueless....
5. It becomes the de-facto standard in Windows...MS settles with Apple
Wait...did'nt this happen before?
It's also available via Internet2/Mutlticast advertised via SAP. If you have an I2+Multicast feed you can view it with the VideoLan client or Quicktime if you have the SDP information.
NASA does not put it on their page (I emailed them asking them to), but if you are on an Internet2 enabled + multicast enabled network (college/university) it is available via MPEG1 multicast feed.
You can view it with Quicktime, Real 9 (real 10 crashes with SDP), VideoLan and CISCO IP/TV.
To view it on Videolan start the player with
--extraint SAP
and look at the playlist....it can take up to 10 min before you'll see the NASA listing.
If anybody wants the sdp file I'll try and find a way of posting it. I tried to...but the slashdot forum filters killed my post!
Well..at least Steam will be well de-bugged and working correctly by the time it comes out. With the way steam was rolled out, nobody would of been able to download Half-Life 2 even if did come out.
Hmm....
Good point. OH well.
Doesn't Wil Wheaton read slashdot?
:)
Wil....if you are out there under some slashdot alias and are reading my post, next time you talk to Rick Berman, slide the idea of moving to a mini-series format!
Somebody Mod me up so he reads this!
Hmm +5...Must of been the skim milk in the Hot chocolate this morning!
It also just occurred to me that by going to a mini-series format, it might be easier to get cast members from STTNG and DS9 to come back for interesting stories.
It just occurred to me to ask the question of why Enterprise needs to be on every week for each new season? Why not go with a mini-series every year. The hype increases, there is more latitude to do something different and there is less danger of worrying about ratings.
Just a thought....
There is a complete Saturn V indoors in a facility at the Kennedy Space center. Its in great shape (at least from the outside) and totally protected from the weather. Its in a museum facility that anybody can see.
Somebody prove to me that they are not somewhere in West Texas or Arizona and they just put red filter on the lense. I bet there's some dude JUST outside of view...laughing is ass off!
Stratera is available, is a non-stimulant and is not a controlled substance.
I use it and it works great.
I'm NOT saying I disagree with you or that polticial reasons were the reasons why RTG's were not used but do you have any authoritative information that this was the reason why RTG's were not used? I'd like to actually confirm that was the reason rather than just assume it.
I'd prefer not to get all angry about something until I'm sure that was what actually happened.
bzzzzt...WRONG!
There are two more commonwealth states you are forgetting about. Kentucky and Virginia are also Commonwealth states.