MS-DOS means nothing in the case of this compiler. It was a good optimizing compiler. I'm sure that gcc could benefit in some areas that watcom excelled and vice versa.
Unless it can enhance the workplace. Yes, some enhancements should never happen, like employee-tracking, but hey, if it is the difference of doign job X in 1/5th the time with no other effects, why not?
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While you can't eat the cable or the towers that would need to be built, the information one can get for it, provided the technology be provided to the people, may be quite valuable.
I, for instance, could contribute hardware, if I ran a company like linksys. Money on the otherhand, I would give towards other, more direct things. So don't bang the charity of it all. If it was giving away cocaine, well.. that's bad:)
I bet your parents have a disdain for you when you go to class intending not to receive as much as possible from your professor.
Yeah, they did. But I wasn't in school for Music or Philosophy, where my interest varied. I was there for computer science. Problem is, some classes, even relevant ones were so easy, that the weren't interesting. I remember taking one course in highschool, and again in college. The second time, it was great. It was a little easier, but the professor was even better.
No, it's not the professor's fault, but c'mmon, if the circumstance is that it wont' be good for me to sit there and fall asleep, can't I do anything else?
As a former teacher at a major university, I can say that I wouldn't care if you don't pay attention. I *would* care, however, when students are checking their email or IM'ing each other because that activity inevitably distracts other students who *are* trying to pay attention, just the same as students who are whispering to each other constantly or passing notes. Images changing on a screen in front of a student can't help but draw their attention away. Hell, if laptops weren't necessary for a particular class, I would even consider disallowing use of *those* because the cacophony of keyboards-a-clicking is very distracting.
Ah, but if it was possible to sit in the last row with a quiet laptop?
Ah, but if this becomes a permanent system, now you have proof of where kids are in the school.
BMCC had a problem with this, where they tracked your entry into various buildings and if you didn't entre certain buildings at certain times, in liu with your schedule, you'd lose financial aid.
So nw the concern is, is the kid goofing off or in class? At NYU, they don't care.. they just care they are getting money and have someone standing in front of the classroom "giving quality education".
As for universities, grades are the answer. My guess is that these students want to work chat and email in class, yet pull an easy "A" at the end of the semester. When they get a "C", or fail a class, perhaps they will make the right decision. If not, it's evolution in action.
If I'm making no noise, and have an easy grasp of the course material, who says I have to sit there or even take notes unless the class requires participation? I've had a disdain for professors who either require attendance and/or "undevided attention" when I know the course material or no participation in class ins necessary.
At work, yes. You are required to participate in meetings. But in college, it's totally different.
Nobody cares where you went to school. Other things like E.Q. and I.Q are more important when working well with people.
Whoa. I.Q. and E.Q. aren't "good measures". A standard IQ test may tell if you have mental advantage in certain conditions, but not in all of them.
The simpler example will bring out the larger. Take a poor family, who has their child of 5 or 6 selling bags of nuts. The child packages different types of bags depending on the number of nuts per bag. Same child, also sells them, on the street, accepting cash, making change and not getting gyped. You take this child, and give her a math test. You'll find that this child to be able to do math really well to the degree of what this child does. Will this child be able to handle fractions, variable substitution, word problems and equation solving? That's something that would later determine if this child is a good math student. Because the child did well on the math test only means the child does well in those particular problems.
So what's the point? I.Q. and E.Q. tests can be easily flawed. The typical ones will give you a 'score' of 'ability' in a specific context. What if you gave me an IQ test in French? I'd do poorly since I understand very little french.
Hell, you don't even need to have graduated from college/MS/PhD anymore.
Depends on how you mean though, no? Would I want my doctor to not have gone through 10 years of college? Would I want my lawyer not to have? What about a programmer to work on cryptography algorithms or write a distributed database system? Now what about my junior programmer who writes web scripts? The salesman at macy's? Depends on the context, eh? Some of the richest people are there because of biz smarts, being in the right place at the right time, and education....some mix of it. Some need it, some don't.
Btw, I graduated from college, got my BA. Does my GPA and degree reflect who I am? To some degree. My experience in various types of coding (machine language, logic, high level programming) has given me some advantage to recognize problems and solutions. So it wasn't useless.
Linux PPC runs OpenOffice. But if you insist on MS Mac Office - it runs it fine in MOL with same speed and quaity. Personally I prefer OpenOffice.
So? Point is, you prefer it. I don't. End of story. Mac OS and Linux are good since they fufill our needs respectively. You know why I like Mac OSX, I know why you like Linux. One isn't better than the other except in our own preferences.
Yup, I have. But I think you may have missed the jest in my post. Nothing (most of the time) is completely better than something else. It's better at certain things, that have certain values.
Now for the irrelevant part of my reply to your post. My point is that Gentoo and Mac OSX are better than each other at different things.
All other OSes keep one universal binary distribution compiled for the most conservative CPU/chipset. As a result the performance on the fastest compter is not that fast.
Not bad for mac's, since the ppc hasn't been changed since the older non-ppc chilsets. So binaries aren't the end of the world for the Mac.. since we know the hardware it'll be run on.:)
Otherwise, there is a risk of application crashing (another common problem on Mac OS X).
Uh, that's a result not of OS X. It can be the OS, the compiler or a bug in the app. I can easily write apps that'll crash on linux but be fine on OSX. It's just buggy code that I've written. If the OS is sturdy, the compiler is sturdy and the app is sturdy, the app won't necessarily crash. I haven't had an OS crash more than once.
The bad news about proprietary Mac OS X - nothing you can do with it. You cannot recompile your kernel, you drivers, you GUI.
Darwin, the underlying OS, you can recompile. Quartz, Cocoa and the other libs are gifts, in binary form, from Apple. So I can use X11 on top of it. I rather not.
There is a foundation of performance comparison of Gentoo and Mac OS X. Read Gentoo forums. Or, even better, try yourself to see the real difference.
It may run hello world faster, but it doesn't have iTunes, iMovie, iDvd, Aqua, Office (MS's MacOffice, not Windows one). But if I wanted a server, or a unix workstation, I may consider linux. I've tried Mandrake, Slackware, Gentoo, RedHat and Debian. They were nice for various things. I liked FreeBSD for some things, OBsed for others.
I just rather Mac OS X. I like the gui, the feel... before it, I was a windowmaker user for 3 years. I tried kde a few times. I never liked gnome much.
So in other words, lemme use what I like. I've tried the rest, and I'm stuck with what's best for me.
Get a spam list of people, yes, spam. Bad word. 4 letter one at that. Find an open relay. Spam a few people with it. Don't be surprised when you see it circulating.
Distribute it via a virus in MS Windows.
Yes, two wrongs don't make a right, but imagine all the various outcomes.
National speed limits? afaik, Tenessee has a speed limit of 65mph, while ny has one of 55. Is there some sorta federal speed limit or something? I thought it was state goverened.
Actually yeah. Engineers don't usually work alone.
There are other engineers to doublecheck answers. Architects design, another one officially approves in nyc, with a stamp aquired by certification.
There's QA. If it was built wrong, it prolly won't work after some extensive testing.
Lastly, I never was in a class where I took tests and passed by getting most of my answers on partial credit. If I did, the questions were lengthly and were multi-step.
Yes, use tools.. use them all day long. But if I can't recnognize a right answer from a wrong one, then I'm useless. Really.
I should be able to write something, as a programmer, and be able to guestimate in the back of my mind the correctness and possibly time to execute. If I'm off, and my requirements require me to be mostly right, then any tools that I use that didn't tell me I'm wrong, are wrong. And I should stop using them.
Simply to automatically ticket someone based on the calculated travelling speed of a device that may not even be in their possession is fraught with loopholes that even the lamest of attorneys could exploit.
Read my post again. I mention that a person (law) would get a signal to go stop someone who is speeding. So if my phone is travelling 90mph in my mother's car, she'd get the ticket. This is far from automatic.
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MS-DOS means nothing in the case of this compiler. It was a good optimizing compiler. I'm sure that gcc could benefit in some areas that watcom excelled and vice versa.
And New Jersey.
Unless it can enhance the workplace. Yes, some enhancements should never happen, like employee-tracking, but hey, if it is the difference of doign job X in 1/5th the time with no other effects, why not?
Divide into cemetaries, tombs and caskets?
Bah, screw first post. First *grunt*! :) Yeah, i'll burn for that.
While you can't eat the cable or the towers that would need to be built, the information one can get for it, provided the technology be provided to the people, may be quite valuable.
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I, for instance, could contribute hardware, if I ran a company like linksys. Money on the otherhand, I would give towards other, more direct things. So don't bang the charity of it all. If it was giving away cocaine, well.. that's bad
That you know the US is doing this and that this case can be an example of what can happen to your kids or your company, should you have any.
Can profit be one of those? :)
Yeah, they did. But I wasn't in school for Music or Philosophy, where my interest varied. I was there for computer science. Problem is, some classes, even relevant ones were so easy, that the weren't interesting. I remember taking one course in highschool, and again in college. The second time, it was great. It was a little easier, but the professor was even better.
No, it's not the professor's fault, but c'mmon, if the circumstance is that it wont' be good for me to sit there and fall asleep, can't I do anything else?
Ah, but if it was possible to sit in the last row with a quiet laptop?
4. Spend under $50.
:) workers to move the tv: $100
5. Cost of union (onion
6. School cost of relicensing from MS-SQL to DB2, several thousand dollars.
7. Expression on student's face when his project doesn't work since he only spent $50: Priceless.
Seriously, doesn't the professor factor in the cost of other tools, such as the database and other software in?
Ah, but if this becomes a permanent system, now you have proof of where kids are in the school.
BMCC had a problem with this, where they tracked your entry into various buildings and if you didn't entre certain buildings at certain times, in liu with your schedule, you'd lose financial aid.
So nw the concern is, is the kid goofing off or in class? At NYU, they don't care.. they just care they are getting money and have someone standing in front of the classroom "giving quality education".
If I'm making no noise, and have an easy grasp of the course material, who says I have to sit there or even take notes unless the class requires participation? I've had a disdain for professors who either require attendance and/or "undevided attention" when I know the course material or no participation in class ins necessary.
At work, yes. You are required to participate in meetings. But in college, it's totally different.
It's typical NYU silliness. NYU students are either
a) typically rich
b) getting their degrees slowly
c) in debt from loans
Whoa. I.Q. and E.Q. aren't "good measures". A standard IQ test may tell if you have mental advantage in certain conditions, but not in all of them.
The simpler example will bring out the larger. Take a poor family, who has their child of 5 or 6 selling bags of nuts. The child packages different types of bags depending on the number of nuts per bag. Same child, also sells them, on the street, accepting cash, making change and not getting gyped. You take this child, and give her a math test. You'll find that this child to be able to do math really well to the degree of what this child does. Will this child be able to handle fractions, variable substitution, word problems and equation solving? That's something that would later determine if this child is a good math student. Because the child did well on the math test only means the child does well in those particular problems.
So what's the point? I.Q. and E.Q. tests can be easily flawed. The typical ones will give you a 'score' of 'ability' in a specific context. What if you gave me an IQ test in French? I'd do poorly since I understand very little french.
Depends on how you mean though, no? Would I want my doctor to not have gone through 10 years of college? Would I want my lawyer not to have? What about a programmer to work on cryptography algorithms or write a distributed database system? Now what about my junior programmer who writes web scripts? The salesman at macy's? Depends on the context, eh? Some of the richest people are there because of biz smarts, being in the right place at the right time, and education....some mix of it. Some need it, some don't.
Btw, I graduated from college, got my BA. Does my GPA and degree reflect who I am? To some degree. My experience in various types of coding (machine language, logic, high level programming) has given me some advantage to recognize problems and solutions. So it wasn't useless.
So? Point is, you prefer it. I don't. End of story. Mac OS and Linux are good since they fufill our needs respectively. You know why I like Mac OSX, I know why you like Linux. One isn't better than the other except in our own preferences.
Yup, I have. But I think you may have missed the jest in my post. Nothing (most of the time) is completely better than something else. It's better at certain things, that have certain values.
Now for the irrelevant part of my reply to your post. My point is that Gentoo and Mac OSX are better than each other at different things.
Not bad for mac's, since the ppc hasn't been changed since the older non-ppc chilsets. So binaries aren't the end of the world for the Mac.. since we know the hardware it'll be run on.
Uh, that's a result not of OS X. It can be the OS, the compiler or a bug in the app. I can easily write apps that'll crash on linux but be fine on OSX. It's just buggy code that I've written. If the OS is sturdy, the compiler is sturdy and the app is sturdy, the app won't necessarily crash. I haven't had an OS crash more than once.
Darwin, the underlying OS, you can recompile. Quartz, Cocoa and the other libs are gifts, in binary form, from Apple. So I can use X11 on top of it. I rather not.
It may run hello world faster, but it doesn't have iTunes, iMovie, iDvd, Aqua, Office (MS's MacOffice, not Windows one). But if I wanted a server, or a unix workstation, I may consider linux. I've tried Mandrake, Slackware, Gentoo, RedHat and Debian. They were nice for various things. I liked FreeBSD for some things, OBsed for others.
I just rather Mac OS X. I like the gui, the feel... before it, I was a windowmaker user for 3 years. I tried kde a few times. I never liked gnome much.
So in other words, lemme use what I like. I've tried the rest, and I'm stuck with what's best for me.
You know, it'd bring up an interesting idea.
Get a spam list of people, yes, spam. Bad word. 4 letter one at that. Find an open relay. Spam a few people with it. Don't be surprised when you see it circulating.
Distribute it via a virus in MS Windows.
Yes, two wrongs don't make a right, but imagine all the various outcomes.
And Mac OS X gets Gentoo in a sleeper hold! But Gentoo breaks it. Oh, kick to the midsection.
C'mmon.. can we please stop making absolute statements? Especially with no foundation?
It could be a Serial ATA drive failure :)
Same here. I fell for it. Even wrote them. But I didn't see any of the pages that sorta proved it to be a hoax.
National speed limits? afaik, Tenessee has a speed limit of 65mph, while ny has one of 55. Is there some sorta federal speed limit or something? I thought it was state goverened.
What about 8.1?
Actually yeah. Engineers don't usually work alone.
There are other engineers to doublecheck answers. Architects design, another one officially approves in nyc, with a stamp aquired by certification.
There's QA. If it was built wrong, it prolly won't work after some extensive testing.
Lastly, I never was in a class where I took tests and passed by getting most of my answers on partial credit. If I did, the questions were lengthly and were multi-step.
Yes, use tools.. use them all day long. But if I can't recnognize a right answer from a wrong one, then I'm useless. Really.
I should be able to write something, as a programmer, and be able to guestimate in the back of my mind the correctness and possibly time to execute. If I'm off, and my requirements require me to be mostly right, then any tools that I use that didn't tell me I'm wrong, are wrong. And I should stop using them.
Read my post again. I mention that a person (law) would get a signal to go stop someone who is speeding. So if my phone is travelling 90mph in my mother's car, she'd get the ticket. This is far from automatic.
Wash,rinse, repeat.