I mean, relative to Seattle, Portland's second to none for pac-nw open source. You're outside the area and crosswind from any place likely to be effected by atomic blasts targetting Microsoft. We have the Open Source Labs. Seattle has beer, but Portland is home to Henry Weinhard's. We've got a new addition on the Oregon Convention Center, but there's far more interesting and free meeting spaces, both indoors and out, and we measure the number of pubs we have in pubs per square foot.
What's Bellingham got? It's not nearly as large as Tacoma. I was at Conifur Northwest last year, a small furry convention. It took the entire Tacoma Convention Center and part of the adjoining Tacoma Sheraton. The convention center was a concrete bunker and basically the ass end of the hotel. Tacoma also lacks restaurants, or even fast food, within walking distance of the convention center (unless you don't get sick of stale delis). I'm not holding out hope that Bellingham's any better since it's even less major than Tacoma, and you'd think being in the largest of the Seattle suburbs that Tacoma might have something.
Well, if you're going to insult the simple life everyone else has no problems enjoying, I-5, I-84 and US-26 are the main roads out. I'll be happy to help load the moving truck.
Let's cut to the chase. I moved our here and was suprised to learn how poor Oregon is financially compared to some of its neighboring states like washington and california.
I guess you missed hearing that Oregon is full, and before when the Slashdot story ran about someone in California asking about tips moving to Oregon (general response I saw was that you're welcome in Oregon, just remember to leave when you're done visiting). Not that Washington is doing any better, with most of Eastern Washington counties reporting double-digit unemployment figures (and that only counts those that are still drawing checks).
Aside from that, anybody else notice that most of the people speaking in favor of switching to open source preference work for agencies previously screwedin thepast?
I saw two opposing views that were nearly identical from two agencies with a history of astroturfing (and by the looks of the ISC response, I don't think they even looked at it other than to fill in the blanks of a form letter), and one opinion from the Department of Administrative Services that doesn't seem to realise that spyware is a bad thing (second point under "How this bill changes law.")
These are not grandfather clocks, they are large public clocks and the movements are very old. The objective is to avoid human contact since people tend to break them advancing or retarding them for summertime.
So this is not a Rube Goldberg device, it is a piece of conservation technology:-)
Why not eliminate the Rube Goldberg device and get to the root of the problem: Eliminate DST
Farmers hate it. It greatly screws with them having to get up with the sun, then deal with customers that arbitrarily go against nature's clock by an hour.
Night shift hates it. It effectively screws those on third watch out of an hour of pay in the spring, and keeps them on an extra hour in the fall. This confuses some payroll departments, too.
Public safety really hates it. Police, security, fire and ambulance crews working on spring ahead and fall back end up having to try and deal with trying to log events on an hour that happens twice or get an odd hour-long gap when trying to write reports. The time change also adds to fatigue making these folks less effective late in the shift during the fall back. If you think I'm ranting, you should spend the timeshift nights with the third watch in an emergency room and listen to the ER staff and arriving ambulance crews cursing it like drunk sailors.
Public welfare takes a back seat for a week after the change. The University of British Columbia did a study on daylight savings time shifts on traffic. Accidents were more frequent for the first week after the time change, especially on the following Monday morning, with epsilon difference in driver safety the rest of the time.
1945 was almost 60 years ago. Japan was nuked, Hitler shot himself in the head, and modern technology makes artificial lighting economical. Factories aren't working overtime to increase production to fight the most expensive wars ever fought (after adjusting for inflation) and haven't done so since the end of World War II, and even if they were, not many factories are primarily lit with skylights anymore.
So given the added risks of DST-lagged public behind the wheel, a fatigued public safety sector cleaning up after it, and the farmers that feed us having to go out of thier way to get the food out, not to mention the abovementioned problems with historical clocks breaking when they go to lag or jog them an hour, can society really afford to continue using DST in the long term?
Whose side are you on? Traffic's bad enough without all the extra permatourists...and the only place I've seen hiring in Wilsonville is Fry's Electronics.
Oregon is full. Demonstrating this: SONICblue, based out of the Portland-metro area city of Tigard, was a sizable employer here. If you're in Oregon and not born there, I'll take this opportunity to remind you that it's generally polite to leave when you're finished visiting out-of-state.
So why is it we should care if some website attempting to make money has a broken business model, dependant on the user paying for the bandwidth to recieve the ad? When was the last time recipient-pays advertising successful? Yup, that's right, never.
Better yet, let your roommates in on the fun, too! Grab a spare box (or if your gateway's got a beefy (~300MHz or better) proc, your gateway box and then you can do it transparently), Squid, and Adzapper for a redirector. Takes about 20 minutes to install once compiled, including the time it takes to read the documentation to get it all set up right.
If you add a motor to a bicycle, it is no longer a bicycle. It's either a moped or a motorcycle and cannot be used in bicycle lanes, park bikeways, or other places you'd typically use a bicycle.
Which makes me wonder why people are surprised to get tickets on EV Warriors for operating with the motor in the bicycle lanes...just because it's electric doesn't stop it from being a motorized vehicle prohibited in the bicycle lane...
Unless, of course, your display manager isn't retarded and actually knows that the real world looks at things in inches or centimeters, not pixels, and adjusts font sizes (which are generally based on points, 1pt is 1/72") accordingly. Your display doesn't do that? Well, perhaps you should make the switch.
I actually expect if that were to actually happen, the actual, native Oregonians (not those pretend natives, you're not native unless you're born there) would probably kick the crap out of the WNG. Californians caught in the cross fire would not be victims of friendly fire or collateral damage, we can use a lot less of them here, too.
Oregon's full. You're welcome to visit, but for the love of God, please remember to go back to where you came from when you're done.
But it worked so well for Spaceballs. And how do they know they're watching Spaceballs: The Movie when they could just as easily be looking at Spaceballs: The Lunchbox, Spaceballs: The Toilet Paper, or even Spaceballs: The Flamethrower. The kids really like the flamethrower.
The irony in adding concurrent connections to the same source is you screw everyone else. You also screw the source site out of bandwidth themselves, and otherwise consume resources in a manner that will appear greedy and ungrateful to the site operator, making them less likely to want to continue in the future. Do not do this. Use a faster mirror when available, and autoresume instead, wait it out.
In Unix, you can background this operation fairly simply...
$ at now<br> at> wget -cw15 -t0 http://fast.mirror/path/to/file
This will start downloading your file in the background, will autoresume if something happens, waiting 15 seconds between retries, and never give up until the file is completed or the source no longer has it. You'll get an email when it completes one way or another.
Obviously, the above argument is absurd, but points out that Slashdot has a double standard. On one hand, it is ok when a 14-year-old violates the copyright of a RIAA or MPAA-owned company. On the other hand, it is not OK when a company releases GPL under terms not compatible with the GPL.
Where's the double standard? It's totally consistant. GPL "breaks" the normal mode of copyright by forcing information to be free. Everybody to take part and share in it, but if you're going to participate, you need to pass it down, too. Castle Rock is suspected of not passing it down, and that's where the transgression is.
Huh, you mean you actually PAY to have someone fix your bicycle?!?
Depends on the problem and how long it would take me to do it myself. I work 10 hours a night, four or five nights a week, having to fix my bike ends up being something of a major event I have to plan around on short notice when it happens. Back when I worked days and had weekends off, I did everything I have the tools for on my own.
So your saying that 80% of the bicyclists on the road, you know... that kind that don't have to money to pay for a Trek 800 are riding on garbage.
Round here, 80% of the bikes I see on the road are BMX types who are willing to put up with the pain and discomfort of riding a tiny-ass bike and they're willing to put some money into it. Yeah, it's the rice-rocket or lowrider factor being applied most of the time, but still, they're not on a Segway. The rest are usually Trek 800 or equivilent with various amounts of accessories on them which, other than the nearly ubiquitous headlight and rear reflector, seem to be directly proportional to the mileage one rides daily. Other than most kids who will outgrow the frame roughly around the time they trash the thing, you're just not seeing trash bikes on the roads here. It rains, for one; rainy weather is hard on bikes, especially ones that do not have at least fenders, preferably mudflaps (I need to get these, keep the road grime from washing into my bottom bracket daily).
After all, even a full suspesion, pimped out Trek Y-90 may be around the price of a used car, it still beats the TCO. Though these are even less common than the trash bikes, most people seem to shoot for the $300 to $750 range from what I've seen.
I still fail to see why people are being so defensive of trashy, shit bikes. If you put a little money out up front, you'll have an easier to maintain, longer lasting bicycle that will give you years, if not decades, of fairly reliable service.
And for the record, a Trek 800 retails for $250 for this year's model, or anywhere between $140 and $175 for last year's model depending on how late into the following year you wait, assuming they're still available. Just because it's last years model doesn't mean it sucks. Plus you have the used option: I put 6500 miles on a 1998 Trek 800 that I got in October 1997, sold it in July 1999 for $75, fairly well maintained. I needed a larger frame as I had started to outgrow that one.
You don't have to settle for a piece of crap if you're on a budget, just check the classified ads in your local bicycle newspaper (check your friendly neighborhood bike shop).
Well, as far as brakes go, in Oregon and probably elsewhere you have to have at least rear brakes, and the brakes need to be capable of bringing the wheel to a skid on clean, level and dry pavement. Failure of having brakes capable of doing so can earn you a $150 ticket and get your bicycle impounded on the first offense.
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What's Bellingham got? It's not nearly as large as Tacoma. I was at Conifur Northwest last year, a small furry convention. It took the entire Tacoma Convention Center and part of the adjoining Tacoma Sheraton. The convention center was a concrete bunker and basically the ass end of the hotel. Tacoma also lacks restaurants, or even fast food, within walking distance of the convention center (unless you don't get sick of stale delis). I'm not holding out hope that Bellingham's any better since it's even less major than Tacoma, and you'd think being in the largest of the Seattle suburbs that Tacoma might have something.
Isn't this just another repeat?
Well, if you're going to insult the simple life everyone else has no problems enjoying, I-5, I-84 and US-26 are the main roads out. I'll be happy to help load the moving truck.
I guess you missed hearing that Oregon is full, and before when the Slashdot story ran about someone in California asking about tips moving to Oregon (general response I saw was that you're welcome in Oregon, just remember to leave when you're done visiting). Not that Washington is doing any better, with most of Eastern Washington counties reporting double-digit unemployment figures (and that only counts those that are still drawing checks).
Aside from that, anybody else notice that most of the people speaking in favor of switching to open source preference work for agencies previously screwed in the past?
Given the opposing response, and knowing Oregon's tendancy try and go against the ignorant, I'd say this has a good chance of passing (even if it won't go through congress anywhere nearly as fast as the 70 MPH speed limit bill, which the Oregon House of Representatives passed today). This shouldn't stop Oregonians from contacting thier congresscritters about this matter.
Yoda came before Gollum, or can be assumed as much since Star Wars happened "A long, long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away."
So this is not a Rube Goldberg device, it is a piece of conservation technology :-)
Why not eliminate the Rube Goldberg device and get to the root of the problem: Eliminate DST
So given the added risks of DST-lagged public behind the wheel, a fatigued public safety sector cleaning up after it, and the farmers that feed us having to go out of thier way to get the food out, not to mention the abovementioned problems with historical clocks breaking when they go to lag or jog them an hour, can society really afford to continue using DST in the long term?
Whose side are you on? Traffic's bad enough without all the extra permatourists...and the only place I've seen hiring in Wilsonville is Fry's Electronics.
Oregon is full. Demonstrating this: SONICblue, based out of the Portland-metro area city of Tigard, was a sizable employer here. If you're in Oregon and not born there, I'll take this opportunity to remind you that it's generally polite to leave when you're finished visiting out-of-state.
Sure. Make sure you have some filesharing system like Gnutella installed. Then try the link below: magnet:?xt=urn:sha1:PXRIEMAWGMSGTT7SOGBERTSBYETP2N UE&dn=RCCar_video.wmv
So why is it we should care if some website attempting to make money has a broken business model, dependant on the user paying for the bandwidth to recieve the ad? When was the last time recipient-pays advertising successful? Yup, that's right, never.
Debian users are halfway there once they
in Sid.Which makes me wonder why people are surprised to get tickets on EV Warriors for operating with the motor in the bicycle lanes...just because it's electric doesn't stop it from being a motorized vehicle prohibited in the bicycle lane...
Unless, of course, your display manager isn't retarded and actually knows that the real world looks at things in inches or centimeters, not pixels, and adjusts font sizes (which are generally based on points, 1pt is 1/72") accordingly. Your display doesn't do that? Well, perhaps you should make the switch.
Oregon's full. You're welcome to visit, but for the love of God, please remember to go back to where you came from when you're done.
But it worked so well for Spaceballs. And how do they know they're watching Spaceballs: The Movie when they could just as easily be looking at Spaceballs: The Lunchbox, Spaceballs: The Toilet Paper, or even Spaceballs: The Flamethrower. The kids really like the flamethrower.
The Multnomah County, Oregon ESD already has a Linux distribution optimized for use in public schools. Microsoft apparently didn't really check around before they threatened MESD with a MS license audit. This thoroughly upset the locals, who rallied thier support. Microsoft lost the game of chicken when they stopped smoking crack and realised threatening a broke school district kills your PR and loses customers.
But what if I want to switch to Canada? Will they still put me in an ad?
In Unix, you can background this operation fairly simply...
This will start downloading your file in the background, will autoresume if something happens, waiting 15 seconds between retries, and never give up until the file is completed or the source no longer has it. You'll get an email when it completes one way or another.
Where's the double standard? It's totally consistant. GPL "breaks" the normal mode of copyright by forcing information to be free. Everybody to take part and share in it, but if you're going to participate, you need to pass it down, too. Castle Rock is suspected of not passing it down, and that's where the transgression is.
Switch to Canada.
You'll find experianced Scouters and Scouts on rec.scouting.usa. Be sure to read the charter before posting.
Depends on the problem and how long it would take me to do it myself. I work 10 hours a night, four or five nights a week, having to fix my bike ends up being something of a major event I have to plan around on short notice when it happens. Back when I worked days and had weekends off, I did everything I have the tools for on my own.
So your saying that 80% of the bicyclists on the road, you know... that kind that don't have to money to pay for a Trek 800 are riding on garbage.
Round here, 80% of the bikes I see on the road are BMX types who are willing to put up with the pain and discomfort of riding a tiny-ass bike and they're willing to put some money into it. Yeah, it's the rice-rocket or lowrider factor being applied most of the time, but still, they're not on a Segway. The rest are usually Trek 800 or equivilent with various amounts of accessories on them which, other than the nearly ubiquitous headlight and rear reflector, seem to be directly proportional to the mileage one rides daily. Other than most kids who will outgrow the frame roughly around the time they trash the thing, you're just not seeing trash bikes on the roads here. It rains, for one; rainy weather is hard on bikes, especially ones that do not have at least fenders, preferably mudflaps (I need to get these, keep the road grime from washing into my bottom bracket daily).
After all, even a full suspesion, pimped out Trek Y-90 may be around the price of a used car, it still beats the TCO. Though these are even less common than the trash bikes, most people seem to shoot for the $300 to $750 range from what I've seen.
I still fail to see why people are being so defensive of trashy, shit bikes. If you put a little money out up front, you'll have an easier to maintain, longer lasting bicycle that will give you years, if not decades, of fairly reliable service.
And for the record, a Trek 800 retails for $250 for this year's model, or anywhere between $140 and $175 for last year's model depending on how late into the following year you wait, assuming they're still available. Just because it's last years model doesn't mean it sucks. Plus you have the used option: I put 6500 miles on a 1998 Trek 800 that I got in October 1997, sold it in July 1999 for $75, fairly well maintained. I needed a larger frame as I had started to outgrow that one.
You don't have to settle for a piece of crap if you're on a budget, just check the classified ads in your local bicycle newspaper (check your friendly neighborhood bike shop).
That was roughly my point.
Well, as far as brakes go, in Oregon and probably elsewhere you have to have at least rear brakes, and the brakes need to be capable of bringing the wheel to a skid on clean, level and dry pavement. Failure of having brakes capable of doing so can earn you a $150 ticket and get your bicycle impounded on the first offense.