That system would be the equivalent of a finely tuned, blown, bored, stroked, balanced, ported and polished V8. If it were a V6, it wouldn't have the biggest (fastest) CPU in there.... it'd have a smaller, leaner CPU, kinda like a Transmeta.
No, they're all dead. Actually Trident still makes low-end chips, that compaies like Jaton put in their cards. S3 still has some cards around. I think S3 was bought by VIA, and now integrates its 3-d chipset into the north bridge of the ProSavage chipset for mobile video applications (like, Notebook pc's).
I have a Radeon 8500, 64MB. Works fine for me with my XP1700 oc'ed to an XP2000 (It was a rev 8, Thoroughbred core!)
What? Some reason that redwoods don't grow? Did you know that those large old redwoods are dangerous because of rotting near the base of the trunk? Imagine one large redwood tree killing several people because it was left to rot, and fell. Oh, sorry, collateral damage, right? Let a few people die to save a tree. If new redwoods are planted then generations in the future will have large, old redwoods to look at. But, if you refuse to chop any down, you wont have room to plant new ones, and guess what? They'll be gone anyway.
Trees are a renewable resource. They're not ancient ruins that don't grow back.
It's amazing how many environmentalists don't know that trees grow back if you plant some new ones... I mean, the forest wasn't always old. New trees are better for the animals that live there anyway. They dont block as much light, and allow other vegetation to grow... (read: food for the cute little fuzzy bunnies)
Chop down the trees with the treehuggers in them. Plant a new one, it'll grow back. Plus old-ass forests aren't good for the ecology. It's good to thin out the forest to allow other plants to grow.
I agree. Some sort of safety/training course is a very good idea. What's the point of owning a gun if you can't hit your target... (Didn't someone describe THAT as gun control?)
...in the AMD Athlon. Though the Alpha CPU was intersting in it's bolt-on heatsink (VERY well mounted, i liked it). Ohwell, progress must progress. The EV6 bus has served AMD well so far.
First the "scientists" say the earth is getting warmer... Then a couple cold winters, and they say that the global warming is causing colder winters. Then it's causing less rain/snow fall, now we're getting more snow than last year.
The impact that everything humans have done can be easily toppled by a couple volcanos. I'm really getting sick of everyone from CEO's to environmentalists only looking at the near past and near future. It's causing kneejerk reactions to everything from 'this week's' profits, to 'this month's' temperatures. Everything has to be done now, stopped now, started now, fixed now. Until someone can give me the average weekly temerature report from when Mr. & Mrs. Dinosaur were releasing greenhouse gasses after munching some stinkweed in a swamp, I have a hard time believing that their constantly chaning opinions and "findings" are accurate.
That's my rant, go ahead and moderate this down a bit.
Ya know, I do think a tax on OUTGOING mail would be very good. I'd pay up to $.05 for each email I sent out. Shit, that'd only add up to $1.00 a month for me. Small price to pay for curbing spam.
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I'm very surpised that I didn't read anything about the 11+ Million Commodore 64's that were sold worldwide. In its heyday, that was probably the most popular PC to use as a gaming platform, and the thousands of games out there prove it. Better graphics than any other computer at the time it was produced. And, it stood the test of time... How many computers have revisions spanning 7 years without ANY functional upgrades?!?!? Same O/S, same CPU, same RAM, different look. Pretty damn amazing, actually.
The PC gamer market has been slumping ever since the Commodore 64 lost its market share. Companies have always known that they can sell a lot more console games, because the hardware is cheaper, and more people will buy it. And, game copying is almost non-existant. Eh, it's been that way for years, I'm glad I don't need the latest and greatest games.
Man... using a low-end case with low-end power supply is asking for trouble. Why save the $40-50 for a cheap-ass case, when you can get one that is much easier to work with, and has a better power supply? Your motherboard will thank you for it.
I bought a $200 (now they're about $160) Lian-Li PC-67 case, and a $90 430Watt Enlight power supply. The aluminum case keeps everything cooler, and the power supply provides very stable power.
The difference between an Lian-Li and a cheaper aluminum case is very apparent, too. I purchased a $70 aluminum case with a window in the side, and though it works fine for keeping the system cooler, it's not where near as well-built as the 2.5x price Lian-Li.
And, now for some state-side vendors that I've had good experiences with:
Newegg.com - If you can snag items with Free Shipping, you'll be doing good. Sometimes their shipping seems a little excessive, but they do use FedEx, which, i guess, has a larger initial charge. Most of the time, their prices are very good, and I've never had a problem with any new item I bought from them.
TCWO.com - Excellent service, usually damn near the cheapest prices. Shipping is cheap, usually can get a flat-rate UPS ground. Not as wide of selection as newegg, but they do offer 1-year warranties on their OEM CPU's as long as you purchase a HSF from them on the same order. Very friendly if you have to return an item.
OCSystem.com - This is where i buy my RAM from. Free shipping on most modules, and the quality is excellent. Last ones I bought were (2x) 512MB PC2700 DDR. They came with Copper heat spreaders, and my PC now runs ROCK SOLID stable (well, as stable as win2k can get). They also have the nice rounded, shielded IDE/Floppy cables.
Nexfan.com - Fans, fans, fans. What more can I say? Good prices, good service.
Bestbyte.net - Excellent customer service. Usually very good prices. I purchased a couple cases from them, and the first two were damaged in shipping, they kept sending new cases until I got one that wasn't damaged (3rd time's a charm). This was NOT THEIR FAULT, it was just that UPS threw them around quite a bit. Not much you can do about it, according to them, they get quite a few calls about damaged cases, and UPS knows it, and accepts it. Hm... i wonder if UPS would save money if they just treated the packages better. They did a good job of calming me down after I received the damaged products, too.:)
Places to Blacklist: EMS Computing (can't talk to a live person), McGlen Micro/Accessmicro (Same company, lousy service, forever-on-hold, sent used RAM to me, didn't believe me when i told them they only sent half the amount of ram I ordered).
I've been building AMD systems ever since the K6 days... (And Cyrix 6x86 systems before that). As long as you're not a 10-thumbed troll, (and if you are, get someone else to install the HSF) there's no problems with Athlon systems. I've built and worked on intel systems, too. No difference in getting everything to work. If you're on this site, you should be more than capable.
The 6581 SID is still being used in synth devices today... check out www.sidstation.com for some really cool hardware, and there's a band that prominantly uses the SID in their music... Machinae Supremacy. (www.machinaesupremacy.com)
Currently, Logged into everything but MSN, on a Windows 2K box with 1GB RAM, Trillian is using about 11MB. Ha, who cares? With a 1gb of ram, I'm not losing sleep over it.
I'm past the days of caring if a program can use less memory/resources. When I only has 64 or 128K of ram, I was squeezing for every byte, but now that I can throw 2GB of RAM in a box if i need to, I'll just keep up with the bloaters, I guess.
Not arguing that bloat is ok, it isn't, but I've stopped getting pissed off about it.
I've been using Trillian for quite some time now, and I've found it to be very worthwhile. It's very stable, works with every popular service, and since I don't do mIRC programming/scripting, it works just fine for IRC, too.
Anyone who donated to Trillian gets a free copy of Trillian Pro, as a bonus...:)
That's all well and good, but it's too bad all the happy, flowery stuff falls on deaf ears in the Mideast. Hey, if there was a peaceful way to stop it all, great.
But, I think we all know as soon as a peaceful resolution is put in place, they'll take advantage of the situation again.
Eye for an eye, building for a building, life for life.
Yea, but did you know that the Deloreans that were used in Back to the Future were far from stock? They stuck in an Olds 455 Rocket & Tranny from the Olds Toronado. I believe it was a late 60's model.
That thing would be able to do 140MPH without any issues.
I've been using Opera for several years now. And though I do like it, I'm starting to find that Mozilla renders pages better, and works with more online purchasing sites.
They're both good browswers, and on my 1.33GHz Tbird system with 1GB of ram and Striping RAID, anything runs fast (well, just about).
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That system would be the equivalent of a finely tuned, blown, bored, stroked, balanced, ported and polished V8. If it were a V6, it wouldn't have the biggest (fastest) CPU in there.... it'd have a smaller, leaner CPU, kinda like a Transmeta.
Just my $.02315927584, or roughly thereabouts.
No, they're all dead. Actually Trident still makes low-end chips, that compaies like Jaton put in their cards. S3 still has some cards around. I think S3 was bought by VIA, and now integrates its 3-d chipset into the north bridge of the ProSavage chipset for mobile video applications (like, Notebook pc's).
I have a Radeon 8500, 64MB. Works fine for me with my XP1700 oc'ed to an XP2000 (It was a rev 8, Thoroughbred core!)
That's all.
What? Some reason that redwoods don't grow? Did you know that those large old redwoods are dangerous because of rotting near the base of the trunk? Imagine one large redwood tree killing several people because it was left to rot, and fell. Oh, sorry, collateral damage, right? Let a few people die to save a tree. If new redwoods are planted then generations in the future will have large, old redwoods to look at. But, if you refuse to chop any down, you wont have room to plant new ones, and guess what? They'll be gone anyway.
Trees are a renewable resource. They're not ancient ruins that don't grow back.
I'd moderate you up to about 50 if I could... :)
It's amazing how many environmentalists don't know that trees grow back if you plant some new ones... I mean, the forest wasn't always old. New trees are better for the animals that live there anyway. They dont block as much light, and allow other vegetation to grow... (read: food for the cute little fuzzy bunnies)
Chop down the trees with the treehuggers in them. Plant a new one, it'll grow back. Plus old-ass forests aren't good for the ecology. It's good to thin out the forest to allow other plants to grow.
I agree. Some sort of safety/training course is a very good idea. What's the point of owning a gun if you can't hit your target... (Didn't someone describe THAT as gun control?)
...in the AMD Athlon. Though the Alpha CPU was intersting in it's bolt-on heatsink (VERY well mounted, i liked it). Ohwell, progress must progress. The EV6 bus has served AMD well so far.
First the "scientists" say the earth is getting warmer... Then a couple cold winters, and they say that the global warming is causing colder winters. Then it's causing less rain/snow fall, now we're getting more snow than last year.
The impact that everything humans have done can be easily toppled by a couple volcanos. I'm really getting sick of everyone from CEO's to environmentalists only looking at the near past and near future. It's causing kneejerk reactions to everything from 'this week's' profits, to 'this month's' temperatures. Everything has to be done now, stopped now, started now, fixed now. Until someone can give me the average weekly temerature report from when Mr. & Mrs. Dinosaur were releasing greenhouse gasses after munching some stinkweed in a swamp, I have a hard time believing that their constantly chaning opinions and "findings" are accurate.
That's my rant, go ahead and moderate this down a bit.
Ya know, I do think a tax on OUTGOING mail would be very good. I'd pay up to $.05 for each email I sent out. Shit, that'd only add up to $1.00 a month for me. Small price to pay for curbing spam.
I'm very surpised that I didn't read anything about the 11+ Million Commodore 64's that were sold worldwide. In its heyday, that was probably the most popular PC to use as a gaming platform, and the thousands of games out there prove it. Better graphics than any other computer at the time it was produced. And, it stood the test of time... How many computers have revisions spanning 7 years without ANY functional upgrades?!?!? Same O/S, same CPU, same RAM, different look. Pretty damn amazing, actually.
That's my $.02.
Beavis & Butthead - the movie wasn't any worse than their tv show... probly better, it had a plot.
South Park - Well, all the singing and dancing got to me, but otherwise, funny.
The PC gamer market has been slumping ever since the Commodore 64 lost its market share. Companies have always known that they can sell a lot more console games, because the hardware is cheaper, and more people will buy it. And, game copying is almost non-existant. Eh, it's been that way for years, I'm glad I don't need the latest and greatest games.
Man... using a low-end case with low-end power supply is asking for trouble. Why save the $40-50 for a cheap-ass case, when you can get one that is much easier to work with, and has a better power supply? Your motherboard will thank you for it.
I bought a $200 (now they're about $160) Lian-Li PC-67 case, and a $90 430Watt Enlight power supply. The aluminum case keeps everything cooler, and the power supply provides very stable power.
The difference between an Lian-Li and a cheaper aluminum case is very apparent, too. I purchased a $70 aluminum case with a window in the side, and though it works fine for keeping the system cooler, it's not where near as well-built as the 2.5x price Lian-Li.
Anyone else out there use high-end cases?
And, now for some state-side vendors that I've had good experiences with:
:)
Newegg.com - If you can snag items with Free Shipping, you'll be doing good. Sometimes their shipping seems a little excessive, but they do use FedEx, which, i guess, has a larger initial charge. Most of the time, their prices are very good, and I've never had a problem with any new item I bought from them.
TCWO.com - Excellent service, usually damn near the cheapest prices. Shipping is cheap, usually can get a flat-rate UPS ground. Not as wide of selection as newegg, but they do offer 1-year warranties on their OEM CPU's as long as you purchase a HSF from them on the same order. Very friendly if you have to return an item.
OCSystem.com - This is where i buy my RAM from. Free shipping on most modules, and the quality is excellent. Last ones I bought were (2x) 512MB PC2700 DDR. They came with Copper heat spreaders, and my PC now runs ROCK SOLID stable (well, as stable as win2k can get). They also have the nice rounded, shielded IDE/Floppy cables.
Nexfan.com - Fans, fans, fans. What more can I say? Good prices, good service.
Bestbyte.net - Excellent customer service. Usually very good prices. I purchased a couple cases from them, and the first two were damaged in shipping, they kept sending new cases until I got one that wasn't damaged (3rd time's a charm). This was NOT THEIR FAULT, it was just that UPS threw them around quite a bit. Not much you can do about it, according to them, they get quite a few calls about damaged cases, and UPS knows it, and accepts it. Hm... i wonder if UPS would save money if they just treated the packages better. They did a good job of calming me down after I received the damaged products, too.
Places to Blacklist: EMS Computing (can't talk to a live person), McGlen Micro/Accessmicro (Same company, lousy service, forever-on-hold, sent used RAM to me, didn't believe me when i told them they only sent half the amount of ram I ordered).
Anyone have any other comments?
I've been building AMD systems ever since the K6 days... (And Cyrix 6x86 systems before that). As long as you're not a 10-thumbed troll, (and if you are, get someone else to install the HSF) there's no problems with Athlon systems. I've built and worked on intel systems, too. No difference in getting everything to work. If you're on this site, you should be more than capable.
I've never been steered wrong by Anandtech. I usually check there first for all my hardware questions, issues, performance thingies, etc.
Been reading that page for several years now.
The 6581 SID is still being used in synth devices today... check out www.sidstation.com for some really cool hardware, and there's a band that prominantly uses the SID in their music... Machinae Supremacy. (www.machinaesupremacy.com)
Very cool.
Currently, Logged into everything but MSN, on a Windows 2K box with 1GB RAM, Trillian is using about 11MB. Ha, who cares? With a 1gb of ram, I'm not losing sleep over it.
I'm past the days of caring if a program can use less memory/resources. When I only has 64 or 128K of ram, I was squeezing for every byte, but now that I can throw 2GB of RAM in a box if i need to, I'll just keep up with the bloaters, I guess.
Not arguing that bloat is ok, it isn't, but I've stopped getting pissed off about it.
No, the Plus means it's NOT expanded. So, you were wrong, consider yourself corrected. :)
/.'ers to list in a small graphic like that one.
They probably have too many
I've been using Trillian for quite some time now, and I've found it to be very worthwhile. It's very stable, works with every popular service, and since I don't do mIRC programming/scripting, it works just fine for IRC, too.
:)
Anyone who donated to Trillian gets a free copy of Trillian Pro, as a bonus...
I guess C|Net doesn't proofread their articles before they send them out. No need to go any further, we all know it.
Exactly.
That's all well and good, but it's too bad all the happy, flowery stuff falls on deaf ears in the Mideast. Hey, if there was a peaceful way to stop it all, great.
But, I think we all know as soon as a peaceful resolution is put in place, they'll take advantage of the situation again.
Eye for an eye, building for a building, life for life.
Yea, but did you know that the Deloreans that were used in Back to the Future were far from stock? They stuck in an Olds 455 Rocket & Tranny from the Olds Toronado. I believe it was a late 60's model.
That thing would be able to do 140MPH without any issues.
I've been using Opera for several years now. And though I do like it, I'm starting to find that Mozilla renders pages better, and works with more online purchasing sites.
They're both good browswers, and on my 1.33GHz Tbird system with 1GB of ram and Striping RAID, anything runs fast (well, just about).