There you are, all your user friendliness rubish, that Linux is ready for the desktop.
How would Joe Average, Jose Sixpack, Aunt Tillie, your Mom, my Mom, Granma, Grandpa, the children, would react if faced with such arcane, incomprehensible instructions.
In Windows everything is easy, In Windows everything is one click away.
Children can build fantasy scenarios without resorting to gratuitious violence.
In any case that is a choice that should not be left on young persons' hands (they are too inexperienced to make sensible decisions yet) but on their parents'. Rating is something that facilitates the task.
Ask IBM... er... Stac Electronics... er.. Lindows... er Netscape... er the general comsumer.... er.... computer manufacturers... er....
You misssed the point.
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Running for Geeks
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He is talking about protecting tendons, that is why he is suggesting short runs initialy. to which I wholeheartedely agree...
Do something else to raise your heart reate, but running should be always approached with caution and information.
Idealistic? No, just too many cynics and pesimists
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A Babe in Tuxland
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My father, a few weeks before dying, told me that all the money he made was not enough compensation for all the time he did not spend with us.
I have learnt from that (that is why we have brains, don't we?) and in spite of social pressures I have changed my life accordingly (I would be damned if I work a single minute of overtime or weekends specialy without compensation). Doing fine, thanks.
The lessons are there for all to learn, to each one his own.
The smoke from the stinker carriage knows no boundaries, specially in adjacent coaches in which you still have to tolerate the fumes of the future cancer patients.
At least SWT has the good sense to explore a full banning.
So SWT has stinkers, gives several free weekend travel vouchers anywhere in their network, have not tried restaurant, but since services are all short ( 2hours) I don't see the need for a proper one.
The last thing I want on trains is drunken smokers, it is bad enough as things stand (have you ever taken a train after 22:00, specially on Fridays?) so I will not click that link you Mr Chimney:-P
That is right, use your other hand, what better way to relief the stress in one hand that distributing it amongst the two of them?
One day you use the right hand, the other you use the left (make sure you change your mouse driver to the correct hand, that way your brain learns faster to use the mouse with the hand you are less comfortable with, i.e. dont use always the same mouse configuration, that will confuse you).
As other have commented, also change the device you use. One week use a mouse, another us a pen tablet, yet another use a trackball.
In my machine at home I actually have 2 devices connected, a mouse and a tablet...
Above all experiment. There is no best device, there is a device that works for you, any recommendation in principle is rubish because people do not know your circumstances and has no way to evaluate how comfortable something is for you.
There is no way SCO wins. Period. Too long to go all over the issues, but it may very well be they will not have money by the time the trial starts.
If your fears would become true, then IBM would be declared in breach of contract for the bits (which ones?) that they allegedely wrote by breaking the contract.
Do you see any suit against kernel developpers or FLOSS contributors? Nope. SCO has been clouding the issues and there are imbeciles that are even paying them fro the show, but so far they have not challenged Linux in any court whatsoever.
When you install something in windows you have no idea where stuff is put. Different packaging tools in Linux do exactly the same work, so I really do not see what your point is.
If people need to install an application most distros now provide graphic interfacess in which you select a program and click install. How difficult is that?
Oh yes, or you have to type "apt-get install ". Now that is difficult.
What are application installers in windows? Are not by anychance "hacks to put precompiled files in various directories" (and the dreaded registry)?
Like if his mom, my mom or your mom are that stupid that can't understand a simple concept like differnet kind of computers.
My mom does, and she is a 64 year old teacher with almost no practical knowledge of computers save point and click. She knows she can't run windows programs, if she needs something she asks me if it exists, and so far all her needs have been satisfied.
It is telling that MS fanboys have to go to the most excruciating and patronizing "examples" to bash Linux as a desktop OS.
That on my mind means it is pretty much ready to go.
I work in one of the biggest companies in the world, and have worked in a few other of similar size.
I still have to see those fabled complex documents and spreadsheets you are talking about.
I am in no doubt that some accounting types may be using MS stuff to its fullest potential, but for 95% of the rest of us, we only need a half decent word processor, a half decent spreadsheet (any will do) and the means to interchange it internally.
Nowadays if you really need an application, then you connect to an application server (Citirx, VNC, etc.)and do your work there.
Everybody could have the most cost effective application locally installed, for specialist applications you login to the application server that has a few licenses of propietary software that is not playing nice with the rest of the industry.
There is absolutely no need to run any product in particular in all the desktops of any company.
The deployment of Linux desktops in big companies is not a matter of if, it is a matter of when, trust me on that one.
Once that starts happening econmics of scale will be achieved and there will be no turning back. I am pretty sure the penguin will have the last laugh.
What is going to blow us away? The price? The lock in "features"? DRM? The anticompetitive practices? The bloatware embedded as part of the OS to further the monopolist's aims?
You have no idea how much I look forward to Long Horn, so I can ignore it as I have done with MS stuff since 1998.
I knew the tide started turning when older friends close to retirement age asked me to install Linux on their machines.
They prefer "rippoffs" (give me a brake, like if MS was the inventor of the GUI, like if people in Apple and in the FLOSS comunity had not contribuited new ideas to the GUI paradigm) of which they have control better than the lovely featurettes I described above.
Given that people like the parent poster equates reality with a design decision taken by MS or Apple, I am very happey to stick to my "ideological reasons" to have a choice of UI in the Linux world.
Sad how wo many people have given up choice and freedom to be mouthfed whatever theit IT overlords decide is "reality".
"I hope more libraries, internet cafes, and wifi hotspots will monitor their traffic occasionally"
I do not wish the same. Monitoring should be only performed when. like in this case, there are reasons to suspect criminal activity, and this shuld be backed up by a publicly available policy warning you that you do not have any expectation of privacy.
Casual monitoring of private sessions "just in case" or for the fun of it should be discouraged unless we want to become East Germany pre Berlin Wall fall.
The parent is so wrong, naive, and misinformed that it explains how somebody like Bush and his cronies can get away with whatever they want, as long as poor squimish people give away the most precious rights in the expectation to have some security.
The US are not damned for not doing. They are damned because they never keep to their own business. Your country has systematically and methodically humilliated most countries in the last 200 years than any other country in the history of humanity.
Your country supported murderers and dictators while pretending to be a beacon of democracy and freedom, tried to put down legitimate liberation movements against horrendous dictators. Legitimate goverments in many countries have been overthrown because the commercial or poitical interests of the US have been touched. The US does not understand the meaning of the word dimplomacy and that is why are completely incapable of being a good faith partner for peace in the Middle East.
The US could have chosen to pursue its interests while at the same time respecting leaders that deserved respect (like Salvador Allende in Chile) and could have promoted friendly goverments that would have upheld fundamental democratic values.
Although the US has done good things like WWII or Bosnia, it has always been reluctantly and only when there was not escaping to do it. One wonders if Pearl Harbour had not happened if the US would have cared much about the final outcome of WW2...
People with twisted ideologies are everywhere, maybe your neighbour is one of them. What are you going to do? Are you going to become an informant? Is everybody going to watch for others and then denounce the terrorists to the glorious Homeland Office? Is everybody going to be tagged, photographed and fingerprinted? Can't you see the damned slippery slope? Nooo, it is the damn foreigners only, it is OK if theyr are treated with disrespect, it will never happes to US good US citizens.
In case you don't know, that has already been tried. East Germany comes to mind.
Such fear of the unknown and acting based on fear and paranoia is completely incompatible with democracy and freedom. If from now on the price we have to pay to be free is a perpetual threat, so be it. I say this as a Londoner that is far more at risk every single day going through Central London to my work (and if you knew where I work you would pity me since the building oposite is the ultimate terrorist target) than most US people will ever be.
Well, I am ready to take the risk to take the commuting train every day, as did and do the brave people in Madrid, and I will never accept these childish measures that do not bring any security and erode our most basic freedoms.
The most damining indictment about this false sense of security is given on this sentence from the parent comment:
"I'm not sure how this will prevent anything but hopefully it can"
So you give away principles so precious that people have died for them for bascially very precious nothing. Well, you and your conationals deserve what you are going to get if you continue spousing this mentality which reminds me a herd of scared sheep but not a group of free people.
And your lecture of Spain could not be more mistaken:
"The people of Spain actually made gave the terrorists a political place as the terrorist's act enabled a complete change in government ideology."
No,no,no.
The preople in Spain, the wise people in Spain, kicked out of power a goverment that went through the most egregiou twisiting of the facts in order to pursue its political agenda.
The goverment in Sapin, in place of facing the threat of terrorism with facts, transparecny and honesty towards the people, decided that the people required to be herded. Like... er.. sheep. What a conincidence.
The goverment in Spain used all its influence and means to lie to the Spanish people, they not only called all Spanish embassies to order dimploma
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Thank goodness the great science previous to the XXth century was mostly unencumbered by patents.
If that would have been the case we would still live in the dark ages, since the invention of thew wheel would be under dispute.
Patenting algorithms is the most abhorrent idea that ever ocurred to anybody, a true crimental mentality.
But like in many other places, there are many people that just don't get it.
The current US and UK goverments come to mind for example.
Are you happy now, or do we still need to educate you why modularity is a better design compromise?
Thanks to MS decision to embed IE into everything in WIndows makes Windows a breeding ground fro vulnerabilities.
There you are, all your user friendliness rubish, that Linux is ready for the desktop.
How would Joe Average, Jose Sixpack, Aunt Tillie, your Mom, my Mom, Granma, Grandpa, the children, would react if faced with such arcane, incomprehensible instructions.
In Windows everything is easy, In Windows everything is one click away.
You Linux zealots are the sux0r.
Children can build fantasy scenarios without resorting to gratuitious violence.
In any case that is a choice that should not be left on young persons' hands (they are too inexperienced to make sensible decisions yet) but on their parents'. Rating is something that facilitates the task.
Ask IBM... er ... Stac Electronics ... er .. Lindows ... er Netscape ... er the general comsumer .... er .... computer manufacturers ... er ....
He is talking about protecting tendons, that is why he is suggesting short runs initialy. to which I wholeheartedely agree...
Do something else to raise your heart reate, but running should be always approached with caution and information.
My father, a few weeks before dying, told me that all the money he made was not enough compensation for all the time he did not spend with us.
I have learnt from that (that is why we have brains, don't we?) and in spite of social pressures I have changed my life accordingly (I would be damned if I work a single minute of overtime or weekends specialy without compensation). Doing fine, thanks.
The lessons are there for all to learn, to each one his own.
Sometimes markets have to be regulated so they don't kill us.
The smoke from the stinker carriage knows no boundaries, specially in adjacent coaches in which you still have to tolerate the fumes of the future cancer patients.
At least SWT has the good sense to explore a full banning.
:-P
So SWT has stinkers, gives several free weekend travel vouchers anywhere in their network, have not tried restaurant, but since services are all short ( 2hours) I don't see the need for a proper one.
The last thing I want on trains is drunken smokers, it is bad enough as things stand (have you ever taken a train after 22:00, specially on Fridays?) so I will not click that link you Mr Chimney
That is right, use your other hand, what better way to relief the stress in one hand that distributing it amongst the two of them?
One day you use the right hand, the other you use the left (make sure you change your mouse driver to the correct hand, that way your brain learns faster to use the mouse with the hand you are less comfortable with, i.e. dont use always the same mouse configuration, that will confuse you).
As other have commented, also change the device you use. One week use a mouse, another us a pen tablet, yet another use a trackball.
In my machine at home I actually have 2 devices connected, a mouse and a tablet...
Above all experiment. There is no best device, there is a device that works for you, any recommendation in principle is rubish because people do not know your circumstances and has no way to evaluate how comfortable something is for you.
There is no way SCO wins. Period. Too long to go all over the issues, but it may very well be they will not have money by the time the trial starts.
If your fears would become true, then IBM would be declared in breach of contract for the bits (which ones?) that they allegedely wrote by breaking the contract.
Do you see any suit against kernel developpers or FLOSS contributors? Nope. SCO has been clouding the issues and there are imbeciles that are even paying them fro the show, but so far they have not challenged Linux in any court whatsoever.
And patronizing.
How would you explain to the same person to fix their Windows registry?
Or that a printer does not work for a lack of a new driver?
Or that they need to upgrade the firmware of a hard disk or a computer motherboard?
The lingo of the profession is complicated and arcane, any attempts to make this appear as a feature of Linux is dishonest and disingenious.
.... is that it is not easy, no matter if you are talking about Windows or Linux.
You are reducing things to a matter of presentation, which in principle means the technical challenge has been met, brin the OSS marketoids.
When you install something in windows you have no idea where stuff is put. Different packaging tools in Linux do exactly the same work, so I really do not see what your point is.
If people need to install an application most distros now provide graphic interfacess in which you select a program and click install. How difficult is that?
Oh yes, or you have to type "apt-get install ". Now that is difficult.
What are application installers in windows? Are not by anychance "hacks to put precompiled files in various directories" (and the dreaded registry)?
lame, lame, lame.
Like if his mom, my mom or your mom are that stupid that can't understand a simple concept like differnet kind of computers.
My mom does, and she is a 64 year old teacher with almost no practical knowledge of computers save point and click. She knows she can't run windows programs, if she needs something she asks me if it exists, and so far all her needs have been satisfied.
It is telling that MS fanboys have to go to the most excruciating and patronizing "examples" to bash Linux as a desktop OS.
That on my mind means it is pretty much ready to go.
I work in one of the biggest companies in the world, and have worked in a few other of similar size.
I still have to see those fabled complex documents and spreadsheets you are talking about.
I am in no doubt that some accounting types may be using MS stuff to its fullest potential, but for 95% of the rest of us, we only need a half decent word processor, a half decent spreadsheet (any will do) and the means to interchange it internally.
Nowadays if you really need an application, then you connect to an application server (Citirx, VNC, etc.)and do your work there.
Everybody could have the most cost effective application locally installed, for specialist applications you login to the application server that has a few licenses of propietary software that is not playing nice with the rest of the industry.
There is absolutely no need to run any product in particular in all the desktops of any company.
The deployment of Linux desktops in big companies is not a matter of if, it is a matter of when, trust me on that one.
Once that starts happening econmics of scale will be achieved and there will be no turning back. I am pretty sure the penguin will have the last laugh.
How big is your Long Horn going to be?
Bigger than W95, W98, W2000, WXP?
What is going to blow us away? The price? The lock in "features"? DRM? The anticompetitive practices? The bloatware embedded as part of the OS to further the monopolist's aims?
You have no idea how much I look forward to Long Horn, so I can ignore it as I have done with MS stuff since 1998.
I knew the tide started turning when older friends close to retirement age asked me to install Linux on their machines.
They prefer "rippoffs" (give me a brake, like if MS was the inventor of the GUI, like if people in Apple and in the FLOSS comunity had not contribuited new ideas to the GUI paradigm) of which they have control better than the lovely featurettes I described above.
Given that people like the parent poster equates reality with a design decision taken by MS or Apple, I am very happey to stick to my "ideological reasons" to have a choice of UI in the Linux world.
Sad how wo many people have given up choice and freedom to be mouthfed whatever theit IT overlords decide is "reality".
.... the leaked Windows NT code is too big and buggy?
Yeah? How?
Another holly graial.
"I hope more libraries, internet cafes, and wifi hotspots will monitor their traffic occasionally"
I do not wish the same. Monitoring should be only performed when. like in this case, there are reasons to suspect criminal activity, and this shuld be backed up by a publicly available policy warning you that you do not have any expectation of privacy.
Casual monitoring of private sessions "just in case" or for the fun of it should be discouraged unless we want to become East Germany pre Berlin Wall fall.
We are brainwashed agains MS.
As are the competition authorities in both the US and the EU and most specialized press.
But you are ok MS fanboy, you have the absolute truth, facts be damned.
The parent is so wrong, naive, and misinformed that it explains how somebody like Bush and his cronies can get away with whatever they want, as long as poor squimish people give away the most precious rights in the expectation to have some security.
.. sheep. What a conincidence.
The US are not damned for not doing. They are damned because they never keep to their own business. Your country has systematically and methodically humilliated most countries in the last 200 years than any other country in the history of humanity.
Your country supported murderers and dictators while pretending to be a beacon of democracy and freedom, tried to put down legitimate liberation movements against horrendous dictators. Legitimate goverments in many countries have been overthrown because the commercial or poitical interests of the US have been touched. The US does not understand the meaning of the word dimplomacy and that is why are completely incapable of being a good faith partner for peace in the Middle East.
The US could have chosen to pursue its interests while at the same time respecting leaders that deserved respect (like Salvador Allende in Chile) and could have promoted friendly goverments that would have upheld fundamental democratic values.
Although the US has done good things like WWII or Bosnia, it has always been reluctantly and only when there was not escaping to do it. One wonders if Pearl Harbour had not happened if the US would have cared much about the final outcome of WW2...
People with twisted ideologies are everywhere, maybe your neighbour is one of them. What are you going to do? Are you going to become an informant? Is everybody going to watch for others and then denounce the terrorists to the glorious Homeland Office? Is everybody going to be tagged, photographed and fingerprinted? Can't you see the damned slippery slope? Nooo, it is the damn foreigners only, it is OK if theyr are treated with disrespect, it will never happes to US good US citizens.
In case you don't know, that has already been tried. East Germany comes to mind.
Such fear of the unknown and acting based on fear and paranoia is completely incompatible with democracy and freedom. If from now on the price we have to pay to be free is a perpetual threat, so be it. I say this as a Londoner that is far more at risk every single day going through Central London to my work (and if you knew where I work you would pity me since the building oposite is the ultimate terrorist target) than most US people will ever be.
Well, I am ready to take the risk to take the commuting train every day, as did and do the brave people in Madrid, and I will never accept these childish measures that do not bring any security and erode our most basic freedoms.
The most damining indictment about this false sense of security is given on this sentence from the parent comment:
"I'm not sure how this will prevent anything but hopefully it can"
So you give away principles so precious that people have died for them for bascially very precious nothing. Well, you and your conationals deserve what you are going to get if you continue spousing this mentality which reminds me a herd of scared sheep but not a group of free people.
And your lecture of Spain could not be more mistaken:
"The people of Spain actually made gave the terrorists a political place as the terrorist's act enabled a complete change in government ideology."
No,no,no.
The preople in Spain, the wise people in Spain, kicked out of power a goverment that went through the most egregiou twisiting of the facts in order to pursue its political agenda.
The goverment in Sapin, in place of facing the threat of terrorism with facts, transparecny and honesty towards the people, decided that the people required to be herded. Like... er
The goverment in Spain used all its influence and means to lie to the Spanish people, they not only called all Spanish embassies to order dimploma