I don't understand what you are objecting to in his post.
He was complaining that restricting development to one language and tool chain allows less flexibility, and you just pointed out several tool chains with even more supported languages that you consider innovative. Then you point out they all have a common interface layer (ie, an *abstraction*, which Apple seems to be trying to limit). Which part of his assertion in absurd, again?
Good point. And since Jupiter's mass ratio to the Sun is close to what Earth's is to Jupiter, I think we should just call Jupiter "a really crappy star."
Or maybe for classifying celestial objects it's not the size of the body, it's the motion of the fundamental forces;)
True - and looking at existing examples might be a good way to help define that.
For example:
Total Annihilation -> Supreme Commander (same as with NN -> DA, it was the same developer who just no longer had rights to the original). The atmosphere, genre, *and* gameplay elements there are really similar...
System Shock -> BioShock (again the story of same dev, new franchise...)
This might become an interesting thread:) Any other obvious (or non-obvious) ones?
I do not intend to copy any materials, but it would be lovely if I could incorporate some game design ideas (very general level design, movement, and just one or two game features).
If you aren't going to use any of their art assets or written copy, you don't use any of their trademarked names or characters, and you don't violate any patents they may have received on features (probably not an issue) then I don't see what the problem is in the first place.
They can't do anything to you just for imitating the general game play. Commercial games do that all the time. Look at something like Dragon Age - the engine and game play feels a LOT like a spiritual successor to Neverwinter Nights - Bioware just dumped their D&D license and created all of their own story line and assets.
Are you just proving you didn't read it either? It sounds like the NSB/NSF was choosing scientific method OVER politics and religion in this case.
Quote: "National Science Board, which oversees the National Science Foundation (NSF), says it chose to leave the section out of the 2010 edition of the biennial Science and Engineering Indicators because the survey questions used to measure knowledge of the two topics force respondents to choose between factual knowledge and religious beliefs."
They were badly formed questions for a literacy test. Instead of asking if they agree with the statement "The universe began with a big explosion", they should have asked something to determine IF people had a firm grasp of what the big bang theory WAS. Sure, personally I think that is by far the most likely theory (and that evolution is clearly fact at this point), but literacy is about comprehension, not belief.
It's like asking in a classics survey whether "Prometheus shaped man out of mud to be brought to life by Athena". No, I would have to answer I don't believe that. Does that mean I am not literate in Greek mythology?
The funny thing is you may be both right (and both wrong;) The importance of accuracy vs precision for a clock really depends on how you want to use it.
Do you want to make sure you are on time for your meeting? Then it's better to be accurate. Do you want to build a good DAC? Then you better have a precise clock.
In the first case, you want to minimize drift from some accepted "true reference value" over time, but the precision of each pulse/tick probably won't matter. In the second, you want to minimize the difference between each tick, but it's ok if it slowly drifts over time...
Actually, the real problem with junk mail (in the US at least) is that it's the largest source of revenue for the USPS (over 50% of volume!) So it's actually in their interest to keep allowing the horribly wasteful and inefficient practice.
Yes, but I don't generally cite Rush Limbaugh as the pinnacle of political theory. A pinnacle of circular logic, maybe...
Anyway, it does go back to my original point. Go ahead and simplify fascism to conservative totalitarianism, and, communism to liberal totalitarianism. Obviously both are stupid slander more than honest descriptions of either American political party.
But the "Tea Partiers" regularly call Obama a communist, and then they turn around and call him a fascist. They are no more the same thing than red and blue are on the color wheel - it's just ignorant name calling by people who find it more convenient than intelligent discourse.
In the first sentence I thought this was a pretty low troll, but for some reason I gave it a chance and it's one of the better comments on this post.
Now it's actually all the funnier that it was modded Troll. I bet Jonathan Swift would have been quickly modded to oblivion if he was alive and posting on the Internet today...
Ok, here's a quick politics 101 lesson: fascism is considered an extreme right wing ideology, and Communism extreme left. They have almost always been in strong opposition to each other.
But somehow according to the Tea Baggers, Obama and the current administration is simultaneously leading America in the "march" to fascism and communism, to the right and to the left. Either he's the most brilliant and manipulative politician in the history of the world, or his opponents love to make up any crap they can without any reasonable evidence or justification to spread as much irrational fear as possible. Honestly, either way I'd prefer him on my side!
I find a lot of Timothy's posts excruciatingly painful, too. But this one was unbiased, linked to a fairly interesting article, and by any stretch had a title that is completely typical of any print or online editorial "catch your eye" titles or leads. If anything commenters should be praising it as the kind of thing we want him to post on slashdot...
Well, personally I noticed that Bing does much better at finding things that everyone already knows . So now I make sure to use it whenever I want to look up something that I don't need to look up.
Actually, I'm not even a Sony fan, but the cell processor in the PS3 probably still has as much potential (especially in many game-type applications) as a current x86 CPU. But who knows if anyone will ever bother to figure out how to use it, they have done a piss poor job so far...
The GPU is a bit dated (not 5 years though), but not everyone goes out and buys a new state of the art PC graphics card every 6 month, either...
Curb Your Enthusiasm. Brilliant (IMO) for a few seasons, I gave up after it started getting repetitive. I'm sure many more people hate it than love it, though...
- Daily Show - I'd rather watch real "news" programs like Beck and Maddow as they are educational.
Well, I guess we just disagree there... wouldn't be surprised if more people watch the Daily Show for news and the others for entertainment. I think John Stewart is more factually correct than Beck and funnier than Maddow. And possibly smarter than both of them... (and I knew Rachel a bit freshman year, she's pretty damn smart. Uncommonly known fact, in college she had long, blonde hair and was a damn good basketball and volleyball player:)
- BSG - Great show, but it no longer exists. It was one of the few bright spots of the post-2005 era.
Anyway, you seem to be mostly a sci fi/fantasy fan. How about Legend of the Seeker? I wasn't sure at first but it really grew on me, great cast. (and yet another syndicated low budget show... though it does seem to end up on Fox in the middle of the night once in a while...)
With the quality of movies I've downloaded (shhh) off the net these past 2 years..... no I'm really not missing anything. I can't think of a single movie from 2008-10 that I'd want to watch a second time via my surround sound system.
Well, I guess working at a streaming movie provider I am spoiled getting new releases in 1080p @ 9mbps for free;) I don't see all that many in the theaters, either, so often it's the first time for me... Though I just watched Raiders of the Lost Ark on DVD this weekend (w/ remastered DD 5.1) and it's hard to beat on a big screen with a bowl of popcorn and the volume turned up to 11!
Not worth paying attention == not really worth watching in the first place.
A valid point... though sometimes I do like putting them on in the background while working, posting on/. etc. And there are some shows that I generally am interested in for the long term plots, but the individual episodes honestly are fairly hit and miss...
I note the end of the "golden age" seems to coincide with the death of UPN and WB
And it's interesting that most of the shows that I *do* try to watch (Weeds, Burn Notice, BSG, Leverage, CYE, Daily Show, etc) are on almost all aired on cable rather than the networks... how can USA, TNT, and Comedy Central consistently beat all of the networks in quality of programming!? Sigh.
Unless your computer has a 50" screen and 5 speakers, (IMO, at least) you're really missing out for movies...
Also, personally I can't stand watching random TV shows on my computer. Why? Because I tend to want to use my computer while I'm watching them. I may pay 100% attention to a decent movie (which is too painful to watch on a computer for 2 hours anyway), but there are few TV shows these days I feel worth my undivided attention for 30-60 minutes...
I don't think it's quite as bad as you claim... I remember taking "pre-algebra" in 6th grade, and algebra and geometry in 7th-8th. Elementary school definitely did things like multiplication, simple division, fractions, and some geometry.
Then again, I am confused by the article talking about "formal theory" in elementary school. I wouldn't call any of it very "formal" until 6th grade, which is when they suggested students start learning it. I also think it's stupid not to provide some "non-formal" math like said addition, subtraction, multiplication, etc. before that. So how is this different from the way things work (in the US at least) right now??
I don't understand what you are objecting to in his post.
He was complaining that restricting development to one language and tool chain allows less flexibility, and you just pointed out several tool chains with even more supported languages that you consider innovative. Then you point out they all have a common interface layer (ie, an *abstraction*, which Apple seems to be trying to limit). Which part of his assertion in absurd, again?
IBM wouldn't be unheard of, but probably not near as likely. I'm pretty sure Google is the single largest user of Java in the world today.
Plus, both companies being in Mountain View, his new office would probably be less than a mile from his old one :)
s/thing,/thing/
Sad thing, is, this is probably correct.
Yup. And it seems these days "Software/Internet Pioneers" have three choices: retire, start a new company, or work at Google.
Good point. And since Jupiter's mass ratio to the Sun is close to what Earth's is to Jupiter, I think we should just call Jupiter "a really crappy star."
Or maybe for classifying celestial objects it's not the size of the body, it's the motion of the fundamental forces ;)
True - and looking at existing examples might be a good way to help define that.
For example:
Total Annihilation -> Supreme Commander (same as with NN -> DA, it was the same developer who just no longer had rights to the original). The atmosphere, genre, *and* gameplay elements there are really similar...
System Shock -> BioShock (again the story of same dev, new franchise...)
This might become an interesting thread :) Any other obvious (or non-obvious) ones?
I do not intend to copy any materials, but it would be lovely if I could incorporate some game design ideas (very general level design, movement, and just one or two game features).
If you aren't going to use any of their art assets or written copy, you don't use any of their trademarked names or characters, and you don't violate any patents they may have received on features (probably not an issue) then I don't see what the problem is in the first place.
They can't do anything to you just for imitating the general game play. Commercial games do that all the time. Look at something like Dragon Age - the engine and game play feels a LOT like a spiritual successor to Neverwinter Nights - Bioware just dumped their D&D license and created all of their own story line and assets.
Are you just proving you didn't read it either? It sounds like the NSB/NSF was choosing scientific method OVER politics and religion in this case.
Quote: "National Science Board, which oversees the National Science Foundation (NSF), says it chose to leave the section out of the 2010 edition of the biennial Science and Engineering Indicators because the survey questions used to measure knowledge of the two topics force respondents to choose between factual knowledge and religious beliefs."
They were badly formed questions for a literacy test. Instead of asking if they agree with the statement "The universe began with a big explosion", they should have asked something to determine IF people had a firm grasp of what the big bang theory WAS. Sure, personally I think that is by far the most likely theory (and that evolution is clearly fact at this point), but literacy is about comprehension, not belief.
It's like asking in a classics survey whether "Prometheus shaped man out of mud to be brought to life by Athena". No, I would have to answer I don't believe that. Does that mean I am not literate in Greek mythology?
The funny thing is you may be both right (and both wrong ;) The importance of accuracy vs precision for a clock really depends on how you want to use it.
Do you want to make sure you are on time for your meeting? Then it's better to be accurate. Do you want to build a good DAC? Then you better have a precise clock.
In the first case, you want to minimize drift from some accepted "true reference value" over time, but the precision of each pulse/tick probably won't matter. In the second, you want to minimize the difference between each tick, but it's ok if it slowly drifts over time...
Actually, the real problem with junk mail (in the US at least) is that it's the largest source of revenue for the USPS (over 50% of volume!) So it's actually in their interest to keep allowing the horribly wasteful and inefficient practice.
At least it's good to see Dr. Honeydew found a new job after the Muppet Show was cancelled...
Yes, but I don't generally cite Rush Limbaugh as the pinnacle of political theory. A pinnacle of circular logic, maybe...
Anyway, it does go back to my original point. Go ahead and simplify fascism to conservative totalitarianism, and, communism to liberal totalitarianism. Obviously both are stupid slander more than honest descriptions of either American political party.
But the "Tea Partiers" regularly call Obama a communist, and then they turn around and call him a fascist. They are no more the same thing than red and blue are on the color wheel - it's just ignorant name calling by people who find it more convenient than intelligent discourse.
You are actually arguing that because two ideologies have something in common that their difference are irrelevant?
Wow, you clearly failed both politics AND logic.
In the first sentence I thought this was a pretty low troll, but for some reason I gave it a chance and it's one of the better comments on this post.
Now it's actually all the funnier that it was modded Troll. I bet Jonathan Swift would have been quickly modded to oblivion if he was alive and posting on the Internet today...
Fascism? Are you serious?
Ok, here's a quick politics 101 lesson: fascism is considered an extreme right wing ideology, and Communism extreme left. They have almost always been in strong opposition to each other.
But somehow according to the Tea Baggers, Obama and the current administration is simultaneously leading America in the "march" to fascism and communism, to the right and to the left. Either he's the most brilliant and manipulative politician in the history of the world, or his opponents love to make up any crap they can without any reasonable evidence or justification to spread as much irrational fear as possible. Honestly, either way I'd prefer him on my side!
Pick your battles, man!
I find a lot of Timothy's posts excruciatingly painful, too. But this one was unbiased, linked to a fairly interesting article, and by any stretch had a title that is completely typical of any print or online editorial "catch your eye" titles or leads. If anything commenters should be praising it as the kind of thing we want him to post on slashdot...
Well, personally I noticed that Bing does much better at finding things that everyone already knows . So now I make sure to use it whenever I want to look up something that I don't need to look up.
Actually, I'm not even a Sony fan, but the cell processor in the PS3 probably still has as much potential (especially in many game-type applications) as a current x86 CPU. But who knows if anyone will ever bother to figure out how to use it, they have done a piss poor job so far...
The GPU is a bit dated (not 5 years though), but not everyone goes out and buys a new state of the art PC graphics card every 6 month, either...
I think it was that SQL injection to their source control web interface a while back... "Foo'); DROP TABLE clustering_support; --"
- CYE?
Curb Your Enthusiasm. Brilliant (IMO) for a few seasons, I gave up after it started getting repetitive. I'm sure many more people hate it than love it, though...
- Daily Show - I'd rather watch real "news" programs like Beck and Maddow as they are educational.
Well, I guess we just disagree there... wouldn't be surprised if more people watch the Daily Show for news and the others for entertainment. I think John Stewart is more factually correct than Beck and funnier than Maddow. And possibly smarter than both of them... (and I knew Rachel a bit freshman year, she's pretty damn smart. Uncommonly known fact, in college she had long, blonde hair and was a damn good basketball and volleyball player :)
- BSG - Great show, but it no longer exists. It was one of the few bright spots of the post-2005 era.
Anyway, you seem to be mostly a sci fi/fantasy fan. How about Legend of the Seeker? I wasn't sure at first but it really grew on me, great cast. (and yet another syndicated low budget show... though it does seem to end up on Fox in the middle of the night once in a while...)
With the quality of movies I've downloaded (shhh) off the net these past 2 years..... no I'm really not missing anything. I can't think of a single movie from 2008-10 that I'd want to watch a second time via my surround sound system.
Well, I guess working at a streaming movie provider I am spoiled getting new releases in 1080p @ 9mbps for free ;) I don't see all that many in the theaters, either, so often it's the first time for me... Though I just watched Raiders of the Lost Ark on DVD this weekend (w/ remastered DD 5.1) and it's hard to beat on a big screen with a bowl of popcorn and the volume turned up to 11!
Not worth paying attention == not really worth watching in the first place.
A valid point... though sometimes I do like putting them on in the background while working, posting on /. etc. And there are some shows that I generally am interested in for the long term plots, but the individual episodes honestly are fairly hit and miss...
I note the end of the "golden age" seems to coincide with the death of UPN and WB
And it's interesting that most of the shows that I *do* try to watch (Weeds, Burn Notice, BSG, Leverage, CYE, Daily Show, etc) are on almost all aired on cable rather than the networks... how can USA, TNT, and Comedy Central consistently beat all of the networks in quality of programming!? Sigh.
Unless your computer has a 50" screen and 5 speakers, (IMO, at least) you're really missing out for movies...
Also, personally I can't stand watching random TV shows on my computer. Why? Because I tend to want to use my computer while I'm watching them. I may pay 100% attention to a decent movie (which is too painful to watch on a computer for 2 hours anyway), but there are few TV shows these days I feel worth my undivided attention for 30-60 minutes...
Wow, you win. The unbelievable irony of your post pointing out my "not getting the joke" was much funnier than my original one. Bravo!
I don't think it's quite as bad as you claim... I remember taking "pre-algebra" in 6th grade, and algebra and geometry in 7th-8th. Elementary school definitely did things like multiplication, simple division, fractions, and some geometry.
Then again, I am confused by the article talking about "formal theory" in elementary school. I wouldn't call any of it very "formal" until 6th grade, which is when they suggested students start learning it. I also think it's stupid not to provide some "non-formal" math like said addition, subtraction, multiplication, etc. before that. So how is this different from the way things work (in the US at least) right now??