Peter: I dont need volcano insurance, I never used that rain cloud insurance Salesman: It never rains in rhode island! Peter: There's no vocanos either Salesman: Don't you think we're overdue for one? Peter: Touché salesman
I think we're missing the big picture here. I've been playing online for a couple of years now and I've played home games and in casino's for much longer.
Bots should not be the biggest worry. The big worry should be the poker site itself. They make money on the rake (except in tournaments where they charge a little extra entry $5 + $.50...the $.50 they keep). You don't get a good rake if everyone gets dealt fair cards.
In a fair game, the majority of players do not make a hand worth playing and they fold pre-flop. Generally you will have 2, maybe 3 players that have a hand worth sticking around for, and on rare ocassions you may have 5 of 10 in a hand. If the pot doesn't get high enough, the casino does not make money on the rake. Having played enough home games to know that pocket pair is fairly uncommon, it stands to reason that one would be suspicious when on a regular basis 3 people will be dealt pocket pair in one hand. To top that 2 of the three people will make 3 of a kind, and the betting rises. Often the one with the highest pocket pair will lose, but the software knows this in advance, and greedily waits to rake as that person continues to bet the pot up.
This same scenario happens over and over. And though it can happen at live games, the frequency is much less. Also, straights and flushes are much more common online (for reference, I used to play at partypoker, and pokerroom). Another strategy similar to the one mentioned above is for 4 people to make a straight, and have the river card make a flush for one person. This will always ensure the rake gets to the maximum amount.
Poker is a fun game. I stick more and more to tournaments, because I feel I have at least a slightly better shot than I do in the ring games. Bots are there, and can be beaten, but they are not the big concern.
Starbucks doing a study that says coffee = good...they must have taken a page from the microsoft book after all the microsoft sponsored studies saying Linux == Evil.
Jesus H. Christ, just cause you're hung like a mule doesn't mean you should do porn. Your arguement could easily be applied to an infinite number or area's. Just because you have a car, and it is "possible" to run people down in the street, doesn't make it a good idea.
Your arguement stands to reason that car makers should be liable for all who are hurt/killed by them, gun makers for everyone shot. Just because Microsoft sucks as bad at security as my screen door does at keeping wind out (sorry for the MS != Antichrist ref, I know I'm about to get persecuted for it) doesn't necessariliy mean that they are to blame for the worlds problems.
I agree with your conclusion, however, not your logica.
Woah, slow down there big fella, i've already had to get out the dictionary out to understand about half of what you are saying. You must have gone to one of those "alternative system" schools. We need to keep this at a middle school or lower level so the majority of the readers can keep up.
Can you believe this? Yahoo has totally ripped off this way cool feature from google! They have this thing where you can add RSS feeds to your portal to get content from anywhere. Google has had it for a week, and now Yahoo! is jumping on the bandwagon. I'm not sure what this RSS thing is but I'm pretty sure google invented it. Man, they are the greatest company ever.
I've looked over the posts thus far, and have found little addressing my biggest fear with this (aside from the obvious).
If such a system were put into place with a wide distribution chain of anonymous users, who is to say that one (and yes I know it would take more than one if using a torrent like architecture) of the said users wouldn't fill his collection with bogus songs? I have to assume that there will be some type of content verification, and though it may take a few days it could likely be broken. Who's to say that if I pay my $1 for a song that I actually get what I paid for. When downloading straight from iTunes or similar, I know with reasonable certainty that I will be getting what I paid for, and if not I know where to go to make sure that my wrong is righted.
I admit I'm still a little ignorant about how this would be implemented, but it seems that the RIAA is so far behind the curve on this one, that instead they should be looking for the next big content distribution method. But I guess if progressive thinking was part of their business model, napster wouldn't be charging a fee, and Kazaa might not be full of spyware.
You mean to tell me that everyone doing business on the internet is not Honest?
I thought that's why I paid $1,000 for my official internet seller's card. That's ok...it's paid for. I probably shouldn't tell you, but I didn't even by a ticket, and won an international lottery in some obscure African nation. I only have to pay $10,000 to collect millions. I plan to get the $10,000 by fronting $15,000 to help out some guy from another obscure country to get his inheritence out of the country.
Unfortunately as noted in an earlier article, they really have nothing to worry about. With current battery technology it won't be able to go more than a couple feet.
Maybe they should look into fuel cell batteries!
--Note: I do not work for the oil industry as far as you know!
You'd be suprised. When I died a few years ago I had this done, and it's been great fun. It was either this or getting frozen. I'm just waiting for someone to screw up and download me, and I'm home free. That's where the money will be. Allowing the rich people to take over a younger person's body.
Well, it works for the FCC. They get a few hundred emails/faxes from the same family group, and suddenly I can't listen to Howard make dick and fart jokes, all radio shows are on a delay, and live TV only comes through with a censor on the hot button.
Moral of the story:
The vocal minority often rule. The silent majority are the ones who take it in the kiester. Sites like this are often seen in the wrong light. It serves as an easy way to get people to take an active part in government, and to have a say (even if it is miniscule) in largers issues that may end up affecting the way they live.
Holden McNeil: The internet is a communications tool used the world over where people can come together to bitch about movies and share pornography with one another.
If I remember correctly Al's original quote was "I took the initiative in inventing the internet." It's amazing how one man can take the credit for the work of hundres of others when something good happens. When something bad happens, no one takes credit, and the president gets blamed.
Should Burt Rutan be consulted? I know he's a bit out there, but his designs have flown all the way around the world. I haven't paid a great amount of attention, so correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't he win the Ansari X-Prize? The same prize that Space-X lost?
Granted they have a more long term approach, and the Rutan design is more of a quick fix.
With all the google articles (advertisements) the last couple of days, I keep waiting to her that Sergey and Larry have decided to enter the space race with their new "Non Evil" Google shuttle.
If God had meant for us to fly he would have given us opposable thumbs, and creative minds that would allow us to build flying machines.
"It's simply not fair for those with limited computing knowledge that buy these systems to pay high prices for underperforming products."
The best thing that could possibly come from this is lower prices for the consumer. I personally ditched intel years ago as a poor college student who desperately needed a computer but couldn't afford the high prices of the wInTel boxes everywhere. AMD has shown consistently that they can make products as good or better than Intel for less money, and pass the savings on to consumers.
Intel has grown to large for their own good, and often get to caught up in marketing and buracracy to do any actual innovation.
If AMD sticks to their guns, the next few years should turn out some very strong advances for the home and business users.
Side note, I'm out of college and making good money now, and I still won't throw down the scrint for an intel machine.
You should meet my systems requirements guy...I've been doing his job for 3 years. I tried to tell my boss so maybe we could cut away the dead weight, and I got reprimanded for not being a "team player".
Losing your job in large successful corporations by doing nothing is difficult. The radar principle says that if you stay off the radar, you will have a better chance to stay alive. I can speak for large DoD contractors in that the best way to lose your job is to screw up a large project to the point that someone other than your bosses boss gets yelled at.
Do nothing, and it won't affect many people and others will be there to take up the slack. Cause a buffer overflow in an onboard mission computer that causes a flight system reboot, and your well on the way out the door.
Does this suprise anyone? We all know the story already. Darth Vader doesn't become Darth Vader with out some serious action. A clone army is not going to win a war with out a large loss of life. Yoda is not going to just leave the hot zone to live on some God forsaken swamp planet because a few people died. We've all know that it would take thousands and thousands of dead clones and mutilated Jedi.
On top of that, it has to be so bloody that we all lose hope. Otherwise, why would there be a "New" hope?
Very true, this post could have much worse consequences than they could ever throw at you.
I have determined that my personal website would stand for less than 4 seconds if it were to receive a propper slashdotting.
Needless to say I don't take threats like this very seriously. Here are the options I see:
1. Give in and pay up like a good pansy 2. Form a team of cyber attack monkeys to do your bidding 3. Launch a counter offensive with a team of script kiddies and their IRC Bots 4. Contact the authorities and report the threat, block the IPs delivering said packets, carefully monitor your servers like a good admin, and prevent the traffic that you deem as harmful.
If they really threw all that much at you, it would take a very sophisticated attack to not leave a large enough trail to figure out where it came from and actually do something about it.
Slashdot Mirror
meh...try working in the Defense industry...Not only does my company own my code, they own my soul.
Don't forget your volcano insurance!
Peter: I dont need volcano insurance, I never used that rain cloud insurance
Salesman: It never rains in rhode island!
Peter: There's no vocanos either
Salesman: Don't you think we're overdue for one?
Peter: Touché salesman
I think we're missing the big picture here. I've been playing online for a couple of years now and I've played home games and in casino's for much longer.
Bots should not be the biggest worry. The big worry should be the poker site itself. They make money on the rake (except in tournaments where they charge a little extra entry $5 + $.50...the $.50 they keep). You don't get a good rake if everyone gets dealt fair cards.
In a fair game, the majority of players do not make a hand worth playing and they fold pre-flop. Generally you will have 2, maybe 3 players that have a hand worth sticking around for, and on rare ocassions you may have 5 of 10 in a hand. If the pot doesn't get high enough, the casino does not make money on the rake. Having played enough home games to know that pocket pair is fairly uncommon, it stands to reason that one would be suspicious when on a regular basis 3 people will be dealt pocket pair in one hand. To top that 2 of the three people will make 3 of a kind, and the betting rises. Often the one with the highest pocket pair will lose, but the software knows this in advance, and greedily waits to rake as that person continues to bet the pot up.
This same scenario happens over and over. And though it can happen at live games, the frequency is much less. Also, straights and flushes are much more common online (for reference, I used to play at partypoker, and pokerroom). Another strategy similar to the one mentioned above is for 4 people to make a straight, and have the river card make a flush for one person. This will always ensure the rake gets to the maximum amount.
Poker is a fun game. I stick more and more to tournaments, because I feel I have at least a slightly better shot than I do in the ring games. Bots are there, and can be beaten, but they are not the big concern.
So the code is open source...but not the name.
Starbucks doing a study that says coffee = good...they must have taken a page from the microsoft book after all the microsoft sponsored studies saying Linux == Evil.
> Google is launching an ahjfgdf service tomorrow.
No they're not...they've already had ahjfgdf for quite a while now. The just called it wrhabtdaf so as not to appear in competition with AOL.
It's only murder if he wasn't actively trying to kill you when you chose to off him.
Jesus H. Christ, just cause you're hung like a mule doesn't mean you should do porn. Your arguement could easily be applied to an infinite number or area's. Just because you have a car, and it is "possible" to run people down in the street, doesn't make it a good idea.
Your arguement stands to reason that car makers should be liable for all who are hurt/killed by them, gun makers for everyone shot. Just because Microsoft sucks as bad at security as my screen door does at keeping wind out (sorry for the MS != Antichrist ref, I know I'm about to get persecuted for it) doesn't necessariliy mean that they are to blame for the worlds problems.
I agree with your conclusion, however, not your logica.
I SAY GOOD DAY!
Anyone bother asking him what his slashdot user id is?
> A group of lab-coated engineers having a barbecue using a 48 million dollar grill.
and all they could think of to grill was tuna...
> pedagogical
Woah, slow down there big fella, i've already had to get out the dictionary out to understand about half of what you are saying. You must have gone to one of those "alternative system" schools. We need to keep this at a middle school or lower level so the majority of the readers can keep up.
Can you believe this? Yahoo has totally ripped off this way cool feature from google! They have this thing where you can add RSS feeds to your portal to get content from anywhere. Google has had it for a week, and now Yahoo! is jumping on the bandwagon. I'm not sure what this RSS thing is but I'm pretty sure google invented it. Man, they are the greatest company ever.
aye!
This post is covered by it's creative commons license:
This work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NoDerivs 2.5 License.
-->
I've looked over the posts thus far, and have found little addressing my biggest fear with this (aside from the obvious).
If such a system were put into place with a wide distribution chain of anonymous users, who is to say that one (and yes I know it would take more than one if using a torrent like architecture) of the said users wouldn't fill his collection with bogus songs? I have to assume that there will be some type of content verification, and though it may take a few days it could likely be broken. Who's to say that if I pay my $1 for a song that I actually get what I paid for. When downloading straight from iTunes or similar, I know with reasonable certainty that I will be getting what I paid for, and if not I know where to go to make sure that my wrong is righted.
I admit I'm still a little ignorant about how this would be implemented, but it seems that the RIAA is so far behind the curve on this one, that instead they should be looking for the next big content distribution method. But I guess if progressive thinking was part of their business model, napster wouldn't be charging a fee, and Kazaa might not be full of spyware.
Wait!
You mean to tell me that everyone doing business on the internet is not Honest?
I thought that's why I paid $1,000 for my official internet seller's card. That's ok...it's paid for. I probably shouldn't tell you, but I didn't even by a ticket, and won an international lottery in some obscure African nation. I only have to pay $10,000 to collect millions. I plan to get the $10,000 by fronting $15,000 to help out some guy from another obscure country to get his inheritence out of the country.
Unfortunately as noted in an earlier article, they really have nothing to worry about. With current battery technology it won't be able to go more than a couple feet.
Maybe they should look into fuel cell batteries!
--Note: I do not work for the oil industry as far as you know!
You'd be suprised. When I died a few years ago I had this done, and it's been great fun. It was either this or getting frozen. I'm just waiting for someone to screw up and download me, and I'm home free. That's where the money will be. Allowing the rich people to take over a younger person's body.
Well, it works for the FCC. They get a few hundred emails/faxes from the same family group, and suddenly I can't listen to Howard make dick and fart jokes, all radio shows are on a delay, and live TV only comes through with a censor on the hot button.
Moral of the story:
The vocal minority often rule. The silent majority are the ones who take it in the kiester. Sites like this are often seen in the wrong light. It serves as an easy way to get people to take an active part in government, and to have a say (even if it is miniscule) in largers issues that may end up affecting the way they live.
I sent a fax, did you?
that's what they said about AIDs too...
Jay: What the fuck is the internet?
Holden McNeil: The internet is a communications tool used the world over where people can come together to bitch about movies and share pornography with one another.
If I remember correctly Al's original quote was "I took the initiative in inventing the internet." It's amazing how one man can take the credit for the work of hundres of others when something good happens. When something bad happens, no one takes credit, and the president gets blamed.
Should Burt Rutan be consulted? I know he's a bit out there, but his designs have flown all the way around the world. I haven't paid a great amount of attention, so correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't he win the Ansari X-Prize? The same prize that Space-X lost?
Granted they have a more long term approach, and the Rutan design is more of a quick fix.
With all the google articles (advertisements) the last couple of days, I keep waiting to her that Sergey and Larry have decided to enter the space race with their new "Non Evil" Google shuttle.
If God had meant for us to fly he would have given us opposable thumbs, and creative minds that would allow us to build flying machines.
"It's simply not fair for those with limited computing knowledge that buy these systems to pay high prices for underperforming products."
The best thing that could possibly come from this is lower prices for the consumer. I personally ditched intel years ago as a poor college student who desperately needed a computer but couldn't afford the high prices of the wInTel boxes everywhere. AMD has shown consistently that they can make products as good or better than Intel for less money, and pass the savings on to consumers.
Intel has grown to large for their own good, and often get to caught up in marketing and buracracy to do any actual innovation.
If AMD sticks to their guns, the next few years should turn out some very strong advances for the home and business users.
Side note, I'm out of college and making good money now, and I still won't throw down the scrint for an intel machine.
You should meet my systems requirements guy...I've been doing his job for 3 years. I tried to tell my boss so maybe we could cut away the dead weight, and I got reprimanded for not being a "team player".
Losing your job in large successful corporations by doing nothing is difficult. The radar principle says that if you stay off the radar, you will have a better chance to stay alive. I can speak for large DoD contractors in that the best way to lose your job is to screw up a large project to the point that someone other than your bosses boss gets yelled at.
Do nothing, and it won't affect many people and others will be there to take up the slack. Cause a buffer overflow in an onboard mission computer that causes a flight system reboot, and your well on the way out the door.
Does this suprise anyone? We all know the story already. Darth Vader doesn't become Darth Vader with out some serious action. A clone army is not going to win a war with out a large loss of life. Yoda is not going to just leave the hot zone to live on some God forsaken swamp planet because a few people died. We've all know that it would take thousands and thousands of dead clones and mutilated Jedi.
On top of that, it has to be so bloody that we all lose hope. Otherwise, why would there be a "New" hope?
Rise Lord Vader!
Very true, this post could have much worse consequences than they could ever throw at you.
I have determined that my personal website would stand for less than 4 seconds if it were to receive a propper slashdotting.
Needless to say I don't take threats like this very seriously. Here are the options I see:
1. Give in and pay up like a good pansy
2. Form a team of cyber attack monkeys to do your bidding
3. Launch a counter offensive with a team of script kiddies and their IRC Bots
4. Contact the authorities and report the threat, block the IPs delivering said packets, carefully monitor your servers like a good admin, and prevent the traffic that you deem as harmful.
If they really threw all that much at you, it would take a very sophisticated attack to not leave a large enough trail to figure out where it came from and actually do something about it.