Seriously, open up that brown sphincter and take it in. (Your mom wants it.)
Spam has never, and will never be a free speech issue.
First off, "free speech" refers specifically to what the US Govt. can force it's citizens to do. It says NOTHING about what someone else may allow you to say or not (say, an employer).
Secondly, spam is unsolicited traffic that places a burden (and a heavy one, your ignorant commment indicates you have never been inolved in running an email server) on mail servers. "Free speech" does not put a burden on others. Spam does.
Well, if the anti-spammers wanted to play hardball they could use the 13 root DNS servers to host the anti-spam services (RBL or whatever).
Then, when the spammers act to take it down, they take down the internet.
Then joe-public and jackass-senator get involved and play hardball to... leading to PMITA prison for the the domestic ones, and severe concequences for the out of country ones. (Why the heck not just flatline all traffic out of Korea (home of many many zombified machines) for example. They clean up their boxes or they have their own internet.)
That's hardball.
So far, I have just seen reactionary measures that don't last long, or hand-wringing.
An easter egg in the program reportedly allows a waterskier to navagate around a course and ends with a tricky jump over a shark contained in a small netted area.
Face it MS. Word was pretty much done around 97 or 95 version.
How bout triming it down and making it not suck for once?
Bah, some corporate whore-org commends some member cuz they managed to pull the wool over everyone's eyes. That's like satan giving george bush a cookie.
From the PRSA website;
Chartered in 1947, PRSA's primary objectives are to advance the standards of the public relations profession and to provide members with professional development opportunities through continuing education programs, information exchange forums and research projects conducted on the national and local levels.
"You sure managed to make a positive spin on screwing the public and armed forces, good show chaps!"
So... like the retired officers club gives an award to the army for "blowed that up good", or maybe the United Tattoo Artists Association giving awards to Jesse James for pointing out his tats on TV.
I hate it when people criticize media for not getting it right don't get it right.
Hypothesis can't be proved, but only disproved.
SCIENCE is the progression of hypotheses getting more and more accurate as tests rule out the ones that are not the case. Saying "science can prove" or "science can't prove" totally misses what science is in the first place.
As far as I understand it, unfiltered natural beer (homebrew and specialty beers, not the industrialized crap) has a boatload of B12 in it from the yeast particles leftover.
1) He is interested in counting the number of unique visitors to a site. Not unique computers. If you visit a site from a home computer, a work computer, and a computer at some internet cafe somewhere, it will show up as three different IPs, and be counted as three different unique visitors. However, you are only one person, so, if we are concerned with counting unique visitors, it has just overcounted you by 2.
Well. He needs to realize it's NOT POSSBILE. You can make an educated guess, and seriously what's the difference between 800 visitors a month and 1200 visitors a month really? Leases, NAT, Proxies, reverse proxies, anonymizers, open WiFi, botnets, freenet, blah blah will all get in the way. Digging deep into senarios of end users to figure out what the typical one does and then extrapolating is the only way to do this. Unfortinately that is way outside the typical PHB and end user mom/pop website operator's ability.
Open a log file once and look through all the crazy crap in there. You can guess, and that's about all.
2) Also, even if you are using just one computer, there is a high likelihood that your IP will change over the couse of a month (if not more often).
Not a safe assumption, depending on the ISP the setup is different. I have had enough ISPs to know it's VASTLY different. Charter cable has DHCP, but the MAC address on the modem dictates the IP you get and you can have the same IP for YEARS, pick it up, put the modem on the neighbor's line and it works there (if they had cable internet too) but you get YOUR IP not theirs. DSL has other setups and systems...
Assuming you are on DSL (cable, as well, but he ignores this fact), you are probably getting an IP address via DHCP, which means that the server issueing that address could issue a new one every time you connect. Over the course of a month, you may get several addresses, each one counting as a unique visitor. Again, you are being overcounted.
Yes, however it goes both ways. One AOL user can look like 50 users. Just where exactly it balances out, who knows. I assume it is different from site to site and when your user base changes, so does how you would guess the number of unique visitors.
Seriously, read through your logs a few months and you will see how complicated it gets.
In any case, it's pretty clear the article author lacks real knowledge on the subject.
Unfortunately, if the SPF exists, the domain has a higher probablity of being spam than if not.
Most normal hosts are ignoring SPF.
Many (not a large proportion though) of spammers are using SPF.
So the filter on the mail servers I help run scores messages on the spam scale HIGHER if they have an SPF.
Is that screwed up or what?
(It works, though the SPF in itself does not push it over the threshold. A lot of times it goes along with other spammy-ness that combined does push it over the threshold.)
Though I don't fault the use of the computers for you, for many others there are these factors that get in the way;
- no home network - no skills to do anything useful with an old machine - no NEED to do anything with an old machine - old hardware costs $$ to run 24/7 in cooling and power, even as a "power user" my home machines get 6 hours a day of use MAX. They just don't need to be on the other 18.
So even if there are guys out there like me and you that do that stuff, there are 1,000 households out there per person like you that just don't do that.
Unless you are going to somehow use 1,000 computers... there still is a problem.
The KKK has a right to free speech just like you or I or anybody else in this thread. Defending their right to free speech protects the rights ALL to have free speech. Even if they are a bunch of bastards and what they say is abhorrent.
So defending Microsoft when they are in the right, or are standing up to some lawyer bullshit is not a contradiction, it is simply the lack of hypocracy that you seem to want to expect in Slashdotters.
Take any old box, put a second NIC in it and install it configure, then backup your config to floppy.
Does all of that stuff and more. Free if you have the hardware already.
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Your experience is not just a failure of attention to detail of the user.
It's a complete failure of the financial institution to realize they are creating situations where it is incredibly easy to teach bad habits.
They should not be sending emails with links in them at all. (Better yet, no emails not already contained in the online banking web site where the user is already logged in.)
So a HUGE portion of this problem is there _are_ legit emails that go out where there should be NONE.
It's a little like teaching your cute little 14 year old girl with the budding boobies that all guys really do love and respect them and are all christians and tell the truth especially if they are 40 or older and have their own van. Yeah it may be true most of the time but the concequences sure are high.
A little paranoia is a GOOD THING.
A bank expecting the average user to differentiate between good emails and bad emails is just stupid, stupid, stupid. They should KNOW better. There should be flat laws against it and the problem would go away overnight.
It's not just a story, it's a real effect. Travelers stuck in airplanes a long time sometimes get it;
A Korean doctor has outlined a health risk pattern that predicts death from online gaming. The most common cause of gaming death in Korea, according to Dr. Song Hyeong-gon, is pulmonary thrombo-embolism, a seizure of the cortex. In the gaming cases, it is caused by sudden visual stimulation following long periods of high stress with low physical activity.
The most famous cases are from Korea, but one would expect that often the connection between of the cause of death and the activity before death is not made.
As I tell my co-workers, that's why I get up from gaming every hour to jerk off. Stave off death.
Submit it to "WebPages that Suck.com", win the t-shirt, and wear it to work. Only way to be sure.
Seriously, maybe a company that got by with an 8 year old web site needs a 24.99 web template and about 6 pages saying where it is, who they sell to, a phone #, an email address, and job openings.
If you are doing business fine now, you don't NEED a web site.
Or take a different tack, make the site a place for customers to self-order or check status and make it plain jane. Your target audience is long gone by now so you might as well craft a new one that suits your project ability and process.
True, but where does it land when "accessability for the blind" also means "can be listed easily by search engines" is factored in?
Accessablity is something that goes pretty close hand in hand with Googlebot, Guliver and all the other spiders out there being able to get around within the site. So it's a good idea to do the work as you get both blind users and a good indexing.
There is too much fancy crap in a lot of web sites anyway. I don't visit target to see fancy HTML and flash. I visit to buy stuff.
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Fuck you and your mom in the ass.
Seriously, open up that brown sphincter and take it in. (Your mom wants it.)
Spam has never, and will never be a free speech issue.
First off, "free speech" refers specifically to what the US Govt. can force it's citizens to do. It says NOTHING about what someone else may allow you to say or not (say, an employer).
Secondly, spam is unsolicited traffic that places a burden (and a heavy one, your ignorant commment indicates you have never been inolved in running an email server) on mail servers. "Free speech" does not put a burden on others. Spam does.
Well, if the anti-spammers wanted to play hardball they could use the 13 root DNS servers to host the anti-spam services (RBL or whatever).
Then, when the spammers act to take it down, they take down the internet.
Then joe-public and jackass-senator get involved and play hardball to... leading to PMITA prison for the the domestic ones, and severe concequences for the out of country ones. (Why the heck not just flatline all traffic out of Korea (home of many many zombified machines) for example. They clean up their boxes or they have their own internet.)
That's hardball.
So far, I have just seen reactionary measures that don't last long, or hand-wringing.
Congrats.
You just reinvented something many sever side spam filters already do.
An easter egg in the program reportedly allows a waterskier to navagate around a course and ends with a tricky jump over a shark contained in a small netted area.
Face it MS. Word was pretty much done around 97 or 95 version.
How bout triming it down and making it not suck for once?
(Still uses notepad for most text creation.)
Bah, some corporate whore-org commends some member cuz they managed to pull the wool over everyone's eyes. That's like satan giving george bush a cookie.
From the PRSA website;
Chartered in 1947, PRSA's primary objectives are to advance the standards of the public relations profession and to provide members with professional development opportunities through continuing education programs, information exchange forums and research projects conducted on the national and local levels.
"You sure managed to make a positive spin on screwing the public and armed forces, good show chaps!"
So... like the retired officers club gives an award to the army for "blowed that up good", or maybe the United Tattoo Artists Association giving awards to Jesse James for pointing out his tats on TV.
I hate it when people criticize media for not getting it right don't get it right.
Hypothesis can't be proved, but only disproved.
SCIENCE is the progression of hypotheses getting more and more accurate as tests rule out the ones that are not the case. Saying "science can prove" or "science can't prove" totally misses what science is in the first place.
If he's a professor, he didn't get tuition at discount or for free?
Your response should be "a fool and his money are soon parted".
Any asshole that continues to treat their child like a kid after they graduate from college deserves a zombified machine anyway.
Yeah. You laugh now.
But when you are attacked by a Gazebo and already alienated all the other players so they won't help you will sing a different tune.
As far as I understand it, unfiltered natural beer (homebrew and specialty beers, not the industrialized crap) has a boatload of B12 in it from the yeast particles leftover.
:)
Also present in "live" beer B6 and folic acid.
Just sayin.
So I can get my ISP pissed at me and watching what I do because attempting to spoof packets is something "hackers" do.
I like my broadband too much to participate in anything that even LOOKS bad to the security idiots watching my cable modem.
1) He is interested in counting the number of unique visitors to a site. Not unique computers. If you visit a site from a home computer, a work computer, and a computer at some internet cafe somewhere, it will show up as three different IPs, and be counted as three different unique visitors. However, you are only one person, so, if we are concerned with counting unique visitors, it has just overcounted you by 2.
Well. He needs to realize it's NOT POSSBILE. You can make an educated guess, and seriously what's the difference between 800 visitors a month and 1200 visitors a month really? Leases, NAT, Proxies, reverse proxies, anonymizers, open WiFi, botnets, freenet, blah blah will all get in the way. Digging deep into senarios of end users to figure out what the typical one does and then extrapolating is the only way to do this. Unfortinately that is way outside the typical PHB and end user mom/pop website operator's ability. Open a log file once and look through all the crazy crap in there. You can guess, and that's about all.
2) Also, even if you are using just one computer, there is a high likelihood that your IP will change over the couse of a month (if not more often).
Not a safe assumption, depending on the ISP the setup is different. I have had enough ISPs to know it's VASTLY different. Charter cable has DHCP, but the MAC address on the modem dictates the IP you get and you can have the same IP for YEARS, pick it up, put the modem on the neighbor's line and it works there (if they had cable internet too) but you get YOUR IP not theirs. DSL has other setups and systems...
Assuming you are on DSL (cable, as well, but he ignores this fact), you are probably getting an IP address via DHCP, which means that the server issueing that address could issue a new one every time you connect. Over the course of a month, you may get several addresses, each one counting as a unique visitor. Again, you are being overcounted.
Yes, however it goes both ways. One AOL user can look like 50 users. Just where exactly it balances out, who knows. I assume it is different from site to site and when your user base changes, so does how you would guess the number of unique visitors.
Seriously, read through your logs a few months and you will see how complicated it gets.
In any case, it's pretty clear the article author lacks real knowledge on the subject.
Yes they do.
There are banks out there with staff that really is that dumb.
CitiBank for one does it.
That's part of the problem, the stupid ass bankers are helping users stay confused about the issue.
Unfortunately, if the SPF exists, the domain has a higher probablity of being spam than if not.
Most normal hosts are ignoring SPF.
Many (not a large proportion though) of spammers are using SPF.
So the filter on the mail servers I help run scores messages on the spam scale HIGHER if they have an SPF.
Is that screwed up or what?
(It works, though the SPF in itself does not push it over the threshold. A lot of times it goes along with other spammy-ness that combined does push it over the threshold.)
Yeah right.
I was going to mod you up, but then went to read the site;
- no disclosure of why they need to make a label specifically for your site (tracking anyone?)
- no disclosure of what the label contains and it's format. (Why not plain text? Why can't I build a label myself?)
- cheesy "cheap web host ads" on the site
And.... never heard of them before, even though they let you get an icon, never once seen that anywhere.
I think I'll pass on that. Sure maybe IE supports it. But it supports ActiveX installing malicious software too.
Though I don't fault the use of the computers for you, for many others there are these factors that get in the way;
- no home network
- no skills to do anything useful with an old machine
- no NEED to do anything with an old machine
- old hardware costs $$ to run 24/7 in cooling and power, even as a "power user" my home machines get 6 hours a day of use MAX. They just don't need to be on the other 18.
So even if there are guys out there like me and you that do that stuff, there are 1,000 households out there per person like you that just don't do that.
Unless you are going to somehow use 1,000 computers... there still is a problem.
Used the test, doesn't work for me. I see the proper URL.
Haven't patched in a month or so.
So... if this flaw exists, it's a fairly old version that has it.
Uhm. No.
The KKK has a right to free speech just like you or I or anybody else in this thread. Defending their right to free speech protects the rights ALL to have free speech. Even if they are a bunch of bastards and what they say is abhorrent.
So defending Microsoft when they are in the right, or are standing up to some lawyer bullshit is not a contradiction, it is simply the lack of hypocracy that you seem to want to expect in Slashdotters.
The Smoothwall firewall on a CD can do all that.
Take any old box, put a second NIC in it and install it configure, then backup your config to floppy.
Does all of that stuff and more. Free if you have the hardware already.
Your experience is not just a failure of attention to detail of the user.
It's a complete failure of the financial institution to realize they are creating situations where it is incredibly easy to teach bad habits.
They should not be sending emails with links in them at all. (Better yet, no emails not already contained in the online banking web site where the user is already logged in.)
So a HUGE portion of this problem is there _are_ legit emails that go out where there should be NONE.
It's a little like teaching your cute little 14 year old girl with the budding boobies that all guys really do love and respect them and are all christians and tell the truth especially if they are 40 or older and have their own van. Yeah it may be true most of the time but the concequences sure are high.
A little paranoia is a GOOD THING.
A bank expecting the average user to differentiate between good emails and bad emails is just stupid, stupid, stupid. They should KNOW better. There should be flat laws against it and the problem would go away overnight.
The most famous cases are from Korea, but one would expect that often the connection between of the cause of death and the activity before death is not made.
As I tell my co-workers, that's why I get up from gaming every hour to jerk off. Stave off death.
"eClaria" sounds like something one would catch off a toilet seat or by eating tainted egg rolls.
"I got a bad case of eClaria so missed work and ruined a pair of underwear."
Rape isn't funny unless you are raping a clown.
Submit it to "WebPages that Suck.com", win the t-shirt, and wear it to work. Only way to be sure.
Seriously, maybe a company that got by with an 8 year old web site needs a 24.99 web template and about 6 pages saying where it is, who they sell to, a phone #, an email address, and job openings.
If you are doing business fine now, you don't NEED a web site.
Or take a different tack, make the site a place for customers to self-order or check status and make it plain jane. Your target audience is long gone by now so you might as well craft a new one that suits your project ability and process.
True, but where does it land when "accessability for the blind" also means "can be listed easily by search engines" is factored in?
Accessablity is something that goes pretty close hand in hand with Googlebot, Guliver and all the other spiders out there being able to get around within the site. So it's a good idea to do the work as you get both blind users and a good indexing.
There is too much fancy crap in a lot of web sites anyway. I don't visit target to see fancy HTML and flash. I visit to buy stuff.
I put doubleclick.net as an empty zone on my DNS server (among other domains).
None of my users ever get any of their stuff anymore.
Know what else? NOBODY NOTICED. Users don't care if there is a 404 in that box or an ad, all they know is the site runs a little faster.
My HOSTS file on my own machines is something like 16k of data (found the list somewhere).
If I weren't really lazy, I would add a whole bunch more by finding them myself... so far I have just used lists others generated.